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Title: Studies Shed Light On The People Behind The Tea Party
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The Star-Ledger
URL Source: http://blog.nj.com/njv_john_farmer/ ... es_shed_light_on_the_peop.html
Published: Aug 28, 2011
Author: John Farmer
Post Date: 2011-08-28 13:07:55 by Brian S
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Just who are the people of the tea party, the big “new thing” in American politics — or at least in the Republican Party? Lots of claims are made for them. They’re newcomers to electoral politics, some say. Conservatives to be sure, but independents, too, spread pretty evenly throughout the country, largely devoid of racial animus, and broadly representative of a large portion of the whole population. That’s the stereotype. But a vastly different description emerges in a pair of studies, one by two academic political scientists and a second by a CBS/New York Times poll, both based on extensive interviews with tea partiers. “Early on, tea partiers were often described as nonpartisan political neophytes,” write political scientists David E. Campbell and Robert D. Putnam. “Actually, tea party supporters today were highly partisan Republicans long before the tea party was born. In fact, past Republican affiliation is the single strongest predictor of tea party support today.” The tea party cohort is overwhelmingly white, male and older — on that, the stereotype is on the mark — but it “had a low regard for immigrants and blacks long before Barack Obama was president,” Campbell and Putnam report. Or, as the CBS/Times poll found when tea partiers were asked what specifically they didn’t like about Obama, “the top answer was that they just don’t like him.” From the standpoint of future politics and the 2012 presidential race, the most significant finding from the studies may involve the geographical distribution of the tea party loyalists. If the CBS/Times study has it right, the tea party participation is principally a Southern phenomenon. More than a third “hail from the South, far more than any other region,” it found, and that has important implications for the GOP next year and perhaps beyond. It’s no secret the modern Republican Party has moved dramatically to the right. Less clear, however, is how much the GOP already is a Dixie-dominated party. A Kentuckian, Mitch McConnell, is the party’s Senate leader, but must occasionally defer to the ultra-conservative Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina, who commands its Senate tea party contingent. In the House, Ohioan John Boehner may be the Speaker, but the power behind his shaky throne is Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, a tea party favorite who regularly overruled Boehner during deficit negotiations with President Obama. It may be a sign of what’s ahead for the GOP that the ultra-right Texas Gov. Rick Perry, another Southerner preferred by tea partiers, has just displaced Mitt Romney as the favored candidate of Republicans. Perry went overnight from virtually unknown to a double-digit poll lead over the mostly moderate Romney. The Texas governor benefits from another preoccupation of the tea party crowd — its preference, like his, for a politics rooted in religion. Tea party leaders may parade under the banner of smaller government, but the rank and file, Campbell and Putnam stress, “are more concerned about putting God in government,” something most Americans say they oppose. While it’s clear the tea party has a chokehold on the GOP at the moment, that’s no guarantee it will hold true through the 2012 election. There is, for example, a stark contradiction in the whole tea party experience. Even as the country increasingly seems to favor smaller government — a tea party priority — it also has soured on the movement itself. Over the past year, opposition to the tea party and its no-compromise contribution to the political paralysis in Washington has more than doubled, according to the Campbell-Putnam study, exceeding even the disapproval level of those other bottom-feeders, the Democratic and Republican parties. Whatever its long-term liabilities, the tea party has been an electoral God-send for the GOP, the muscle behind its 2010 victories. But Campbell and Putnam see an ominous similarity to the 1960s anti-Vietnam War movement and the damage it did to Democratic election fortunes. Like the anti-war movement, the tea party has brought energy and passion to politics — but also a stridency and tendency to extremism that’s eventually a turn-off for voters, especially the independents and moderates vital to victory. “By embracing the tea party,” Campbell and Putnam warn, “Republicans risk repeating history.” We’ll see.
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#20. To: A K A Stone (#17)
Yeah right, and this type of borderline thinking which seems rampant among Tea Baggers will crash your 'party' so to speak.
We are sane. I'm originally from Louisiana, but I have been working in North Carolina for some time. Well, as part of my job, I was dealing with a lady on the phone, and all of a sudden she blurts out, "are you a yankee"? I say, "why would you ask me that" It seems I said the word "pecan," and pronounced it puh-KAHN and she felt it should be pronounced PEE-can. I told her I am from Louisiana and we consider her to be the yankee. She took it all in good stride, but from what I have discerned since then, PEE-can is definitely the more yankee version.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Before you start suffering from nosebleed from being up on your high horse, you might want to consider this world famous picture taken in the 70s in that bastion of Kennedy Statism - Boston, MA. And no, I'm not from the South. I just hate stereotypes. __________________________________________________________________________________________ The working class Irish are, and always have been, the main enemy of the black man...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South. Who knows - it may even exist in the land of Lucysmom - aka California.
__________________________________________________________________________________________ I'm curious as to who would post that.
I posted it. Your first clue should be the letters G-E-T O-U-T-T-A D-O-D-G-E-!
__________________________________________________________________________________________ Your first clue should be the letters G-E-T O-U-T-T-A D-O-D-G-E-! You posted the premise that racism is only limited to the South?
Nope. Started the same way all up and down the colonies. The Irish were one step above Negro slaves and were treated as such and, in some cases, worse. It's always been a pecking order thing with them.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Nope, that's the premise of the article and holier-than-thou types like lucysmom
__________________________________________________________________________________________ The Tea Party is comprised of the same type of people who were in Ross Perot's United We Stand. Salt-of-the-earth, hard working, family-oriented people who are sick and tired of the politicians and bureaucrats destroying our future with spending, borrowing and debt. That's who is in the Tea Party.
Nope. Started the same way all up and down the colonies. The Irish were one step above Negro slaves and were treated as such and, in some cases, worse. It's always been a pecking order thing with them. So - are you saying the Irish were solely responsible for racial prejudice? Weren't/aren't the Kennedys Irish?
__________________________________________________________________________________________ No doubt. Prejudice was institutionalized and defended in the South.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Nope. But they certainly have never gotten over it. Weren't/aren't the Kennedys Irish? Yep...old man Joe was as racist as they come...IIRC...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
I don't see that written in the article or ever posted by lucysmom.
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No,that's YOU doing that,you dummy.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Who knows - it may even exist in the land of Lucysmom - aka California. It does. They hate white people who don't feel guilty for being white.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
There is no group of people in America today that are more racist than blacks.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I know this might not be possible due to the density of rock,but try to educate yourself. It was BLACKS that sold their fellow blacks into slavery,and it is only blacks who are still practicing slavery today. AND......,the financiers were from the north. Not to mention the fact that Lincoln stated he would be content to allow slavery to remain in the south if they didn't secede,or that people in the north (including General and President U.S.Grant owned slaves and slavery wasn't outlawed in the north until AFTER the War of Northern Aggression ended. That war had nothing to do with slavery,and everything to do with federalism.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
That war had nothing to do with slavery,and everything to do with federalism. Ignorance is Bliss pete, and this poster wallows in it....
She must be the happiest woman in the world...
To:Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro From: Capitalist Eric Message: You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD. I know I shouldn't be, but I'm just awe struck with incredulity everytime she posts, how can anyone be this sublimely STUPID in this age of tecnology?
Leftists believe in a "perfect" society... where there is no hunger, injustices, crime or fear... They TRULY believe that. When you can wrap your mind around this childish notion, it becomes a relatively simple thing to understand where they're coming from... They demand stronger laws to coerce people into behaving as THEY think a perfect society should. They demand you give up the fruits of your labor, because someone else doesn't make as much money (or have as much food, or have as nice of a house, or name your bitch here) as you... They expect everyone to get the same results. Of course, some work harder than others, some are smarter, or luckier, or better-educated, more talented, whatever... that causes disparities between incomes. Combined with disparate attitudes regarding saving, spending and what is worth a dollar, you naturally get a myriad of results... But they're expectation is that the results must be the same, regardless of what advantages one has over another, and whether the choices of one person are more wise than another... If you DO succeed, using their logic, it's because you somehow cheated the system, stole money, or were unfairly assisted by others... It NEVER occurs to them, that what you have may have come through working your ass off, and being smart about your life and your money... They prefer the childish viewpoint that we're ALL equal, that we should all have equal RESULTS, no matter how much (or how little) we work. And stealing from those that are successful, and giving the loot to those that are NOT successful- for whatever reason- makes them feel generous and benevolent... It makes THEM feel good, that they were able to help the "less fortunate" with the money they stole from YOU. And of course... to make the feeling a little sweeter, they have no compunction about lining their own pockets with some of that stolen money... After all, who's gonna' complain? YOU? If you complain or protest, they put you in jail! The "less fortunate" who live like parasites off the money stolen from you aren't gonna' complain, as long as they get theirs... Sorry to go off on such a tangent, but THIS is how the leftists really think... Oh, they'll never out-and-out admit what I've just stated... But when you review the statements of the leftist freaks on this forum, this attitude (as I've described) becomes ABUNDANTLY clear. Depending on her attitude, loonymom/ming wants to either ram equality down our collective throats, OR she's holding her hand out... as another parasite, surviving off your money... and mine. To be a leftist requires you to adopt the perpetual-loser mentality.
To:Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro From: Capitalist Eric Message: You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD. #14. To: Murron (#11) BRAVO! sneakypete posted on 2011-09-08 11:16:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Those mean old blacks in Africa making white American southerners own slaves! ...and it is only blacks who are still practicing slavery today. Not so. Did you know Each year, 800,000 people become human trafficking victims and are transported across international borders. According to the Texas Attorney General, 20 percent of those people (or 160,000 people) pass through Texas. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Yeah, right. Them independent, freedom loving slave owners didn't want no government telling them they couldn't own human beings.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
There you go again, being all omniscient.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
800,000?? There was an estimated 200 million people in bondage in 2001, I haven't seen anywhere that shows your bleeding heart has set any of them FREE. And here you sit, the ignorant twat you are, bitching and moaning about a system that was wiped out in our country almost 300yrs ago, WTF have you, or any loud mouthed, self-rightious liberal EVER done to help anyone trapped in SLAVERY TODAY? Modern Slavery Human bondage in Africa, Asia, and the Dominican Republic April 18, 2001. When a ship carrying hundreds of people was recently turned away from Benin, Africa, officials suspected that the children on board were human slaves. The incident once again brought attention to the problem of slavery. At this moment, millions of men, women, and children—roughly twice the population of Rhode Island—are being held against their will as modern-day slaves. Sometimes referred to as bonded laborers (because of the debts owed their masters), public perception of modern slavery is often confused with reports of workers in low-wage jobs or inhumane working conditions. However, modern-day slaves differ from these workers because they are actually held in physical bondage (they are shackled, held at gunpoint, etc.). Sudanese slaves await redemption in Madhol, Sudan, in December 1997. An Arab trader sold 132 former slaves, women and children, for $13,200 (in Sudanese money) to a member of Christian Solidarity International. (AP Photo) Modern-day slaves can be found laboring as servants or concubines in Sudan, as child "carpet slaves" in India, or as cane-cutters in Haiti and southern Pakistan, to name but a few instances. According to Anti-Slavery International, the world's oldest human rights organization, there are currently over 20 million people in bondage. Where does this slavery take place? Who are the faces behind these atrocities? Slave Trading on Africa's West Coast The slave trade in Africa was officially banned in the early 1880s, but forced labor continues to be practiced in West and Central Africa today. UNICEF estimates that 200,000 children from this region are sold into slavery each year. Many of these children are from Benin and Togo, and are sold into the domestic, agricultural, and sex industries of wealthier, neighboring countries such as Nigeria and Gabon. The most recent incident involved the MV Etireno, which was refused from ports in Gabon and Cameroon. When the ship reached Cotonou, Benin, in April, 2001, police began an investigation of the captain and crew. More adults than children were believed to be aboard. Chattel slavery in Sudan The enslavement of the Dinkas in southern Sudan may be the most horrific and well-known example of contemporary slavery. According to 1993 U.S. State Department estimates, up to 90,000 blacks are owned by North African Arabs, and often sold as property in a thriving slave trade for as little as $15 per human being. Child "carpet slaves" in India Kidnapped from their villages when they are as young as five years old, between 200,000 and 300,000 children are held captive in locked rooms and forced to weave on looms for food. In India—as well in other countries—the issue of slavery is exacerbated by a rigid caste system. Many of our images of human slavery, like the one above, date from the American Civil War. However, there are an estimated 200 million people in bondage today.
The mean old blacks in Africa selling their fellow blacks into slavery for glass beads and mirrors are what made the slave trade possible,and made it possible for several yankee families to obtain massive wealth dealing in the slave trade. Which made it possible for whites,AND BLACKS to own slaves in the south AND the north. BTW,I bet you didn't know that the very FIRST slave owner in the original 13 colonies was a black man,did you? He came to Jamestown as an indentured servant,no different than the white indentured servants that came here the same way. He was freed once he worked off his debt,and in turn imported an indentured servant from Africa to help him farm his farm. The difference is he claimed HIS indentured servant never was able to work off his debt because of the continued costs of food,shelter,clothing,medical care,teaching the man how to farm,etc,etc,etc,and took the man to the Kings Court to prevent him from becoming free. He died as a rich man in Maryland,and owned many slaves when he died. It was he and his law suit against the Crown that legalized slavery in "The New World". Of course,all the various Indian tribes (you know,the "noble red man" you lefties love so much) owned slaves,and treated them brutally. So you could say the white man that came to this "new" country was just carrying on a long tradition.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Yeah, right. Them independent, freedom loving slave owners didn't want no government telling them they couldn't own human beings. You prove you are an idiot incapable of learning with every post you make.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Take a deep breathe and calm down; no need to get your panties all in a twist. Sneaky said ...and it is only blacks who are still practicing slavery today. and that is what I was responding to. All I'm addressing is the fallacy offered up by sneaky that only blacks are still practicing slavery.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
"fallacy"? Who else buys and sells humans legally these days?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Few less, as well...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
The Chinese for one globalspin.blogs.time.com...covered-in-central-china/ No need to apologize.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
The Chinese politburo have enslaved the entire nation of China,but they don't sell their slaves.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I think Sneaky means that only in Africa, where either due to lack of a government or it's apathy, are markets freer to fulfill their no holds barred ultimate purpose. The African Free Market Model is more in keeping with the Tea Bagger vision for the rest of us.
So then sneaky would agree with the Indian Minister of Labor's narrow definition of slavery. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
BullBarack! Unless of course in YOUR opinion a lack of total government control equates to anarchy. Why is it that you people can't seem to trust individuals to ever do the right thing,but you always trust governments to do the right thing?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
From what I read at that link it is not slavery. None of those people are owned. They can't be bought and sold and they can't be separated from their families. It appears that like everything else in the world,you don't understand slavery.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
How many people who support baby murder have you voted for? Literally? You know it is your fault those babies died if you vote for baby killers.
#21. To: sneakypete (#5)
What is it about the South anyway?
#22. To: lucysmom, sneakypete (#16)
Yet youse cheer the defense of a people so spiritually and intelectually corrupt as to rob others, literally, of life and freedom while claiming they have a God given right to do so.
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#23. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#22)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#24. To: war, Luscysmom (#23)
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#25. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#24)
That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.
#26. To: mininggold (#25)
I'm curious as to who would post that.
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#27. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#26)
I posted it.
#28. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#24)
That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#29. To: mininggoldlucysmom (#27)
You posted the premise that racism is only limited to the South?
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#30. To: Brian S (#0)
Just who are the people of the tea party...
The hippies wanted peace and love. We wanted Ferraris, blondes and switchblades. -- Alice Cooper
#31. To: war (#28)
That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#32. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#24)
That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.
#33. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#31)
So - are you saying the Irish were solely responsible for racial prejudice?
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#34. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#29)
(Edited)
Nope, that's the premise of the article and holier-than-thou types like lucysmom
#35. To: lucysmom (#34)
#36. To: lucysmom (#16)
Yet youse cheer the defense of a people so spiritually and intelectually corrupt as to rob others, literally, of life and freedom while claiming they have a God given right to do so.
#37. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#24)
That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.
#38. To: war (#28)
Nope. Started the same way all up and down the colonies. The Irish were one step above Negro slaves and were treated as such and, in some cases, worse. It's always been a pecking order thing with them.
#39. To: lucysmom (#32)
Prejudice was institutionalized and defended in the South.
#40. To: sneakypete, lucysmom (#39)
Not to mention the fact that Lincoln stated he would be content to allow slavery to remain in the south if they didn't secede,or that people in the north (including General and President U.S.Grant owned slaves and slavery wasn't outlawed in the north until AFTER the War of Northern Aggression ended.
#41. To: Murron (#40)
Ignorance is Bliss pete, and this poster wallows in it....
#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#41)
She must be the happiest woman in the world...
#43. To: Murron (#42)
how can anyone be this sublimely STUPID in this age of tecnology?
#44. To: sneakypete (#36)
No,that's YOU doing that,you dummy.
#45. To: sneakypete (#39)
I know this might not be possible due to the density of rock,but try to educate yourself. It was BLACKS that sold their fellow blacks into slavery...
#46. To: sneakypete (#39)
That war had nothing to do with slavery,and everything to do with federalism.
#47. To: Capitalist Eric (#43)
Leftists believe in a "perfect" society... where there is no hunger, injustices, crime or fear... They TRULY believe that.
#48. To: lucysmom, sneakypete, ALL (#45)
Did you know Each year, 800,000 people become human trafficking victims and are transported across international borders. According to the Texas Attorney General, 20 percent of those people (or 160,000 people) pass through Texas.
#49. To: lucysmom (#45)
Those mean old blacks in Africa making white American southerners own slaves!
#50. To: lucysmom (#46)
That war had nothing to do with slavery,and everything to do with federalism.
#51. To: Murron, sneakypete (#48)
And here you sit, the ignorant twat you are, bitching and moaning about a system that was wiped out in our country almost 300yrs ago, WTF have you, or any loud mouthed, self-rightious liberal EVER done to help anyone trapped in SLAVERY TODAY?
#52. To: lucysmom (#51)
All I'm addressing is the fallacy offered up by sneaky that only blacks are still practicing slavery.
#53. To: sneakypete (#38)
There is no group of people in America today that are more racist than blacks.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#54. To: sneakypete (#52)
"fallacy"? Who else buys and sells humans legally these days?
#55. To: lucysmom (#54)
The Chinese for one
#56. To: lucysmom, sneakeypete (#51)
(Edited)
and that is what I was responding to. All I'm addressing is the fallacy offered up by sneaky that only blacks are still practicing slavery.
#57. To: mininggold (#56)
I think Sneaky means that only in Africa, where either due to lack of a government or it's apathy, are markets freer to fulfill their no holds barred ultimate purpose.
#58. To: mininggold (#56)
The African Free Market Model is more in keeping with the Tea Bagger vision for the rest of us.
#59. To: lucysmom (#57)
So then sneaky would agree with the Indian Minister of Labor's narrow definition of slavery.
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