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Title: Studies Shed Light On The People Behind The Tea Party
Source: The Star-Ledger
URL Source: http://blog.nj.com/njv_john_farmer/ ... es_shed_light_on_the_peop.html
Published: Aug 28, 2011
Author: John Farmer
Post Date: 2011-08-28 13:07:55 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 30692
Comments: 59

Just who are the people of the tea party, the big “new thing” in American politics — or at least in the Republican Party?

Lots of claims are made for them. They’re newcomers to electoral politics, some say. Conservatives to be sure, but independents, too, spread pretty evenly throughout the country, largely devoid of racial animus, and broadly representative of a large portion of the whole population.

That’s the stereotype. But a vastly different description emerges in a pair of studies, one by two academic political scientists and a second by a CBS/New York Times poll, both based on extensive interviews with tea partiers.

“Early on, tea partiers were often described as nonpartisan political neophytes,” write political scientists David E. Campbell and Robert D. Putnam. “Actually, tea party supporters today were highly partisan Republicans long before the tea party was born. In fact, past Republican affiliation is the single strongest predictor of tea party support today.”

The tea party cohort is overwhelmingly white, male and older — on that, the stereotype is on the mark — but it “had a low regard for immigrants and blacks long before Barack Obama was president,” Campbell and Putnam report.

Or, as the CBS/Times poll found when tea partiers were asked what specifically they didn’t like about Obama, “the top answer was that they just don’t like him.”

From the standpoint of future politics and the 2012 presidential race, the most significant finding from the studies may involve the geographical distribution of the tea party loyalists. If the CBS/Times study has it right, the tea party participation is principally a Southern phenomenon. More than a third “hail from the South, far more than any other region,” it found, and that has important implications for the GOP next year and perhaps beyond.

It’s no secret the modern Republican Party has moved dramatically to the right. Less clear, however, is how much the GOP already is a Dixie-dominated party.

A Kentuckian, Mitch McConnell, is the party’s Senate leader, but must occasionally defer to the ultra-conservative Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina, who commands its Senate tea party contingent. In the House, Ohioan John Boehner may be the Speaker, but the power behind his shaky throne is Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, a tea party favorite who regularly overruled Boehner during deficit negotiations with President Obama.

It may be a sign of what’s ahead for the GOP that the ultra-right Texas Gov. Rick Perry, another Southerner preferred by tea partiers, has just displaced Mitt Romney as the favored candidate of Republicans. Perry went overnight from virtually unknown to a double-digit poll lead over the mostly moderate Romney.

The Texas governor benefits from another preoccupation of the tea party crowd — its preference, like his, for a politics rooted in religion. Tea party leaders may parade under the banner of smaller government, but the rank and file, Campbell and Putnam stress, “are more concerned about putting God in government,” something most Americans say they oppose.

While it’s clear the tea party has a chokehold on the GOP at the moment, that’s no guarantee it will hold true through the 2012 election.

There is, for example, a stark contradiction in the whole tea party experience. Even as the country increasingly seems to favor smaller government — a tea party priority — it also has soured on the movement itself.

Over the past year, opposition to the tea party and its no-compromise contribution to the political paralysis in Washington has more than doubled, according to the Campbell-Putnam study, exceeding even the disapproval level of those other bottom-feeders, the Democratic and Republican parties.

Whatever its long-term liabilities, the tea party has been an electoral God-send for the GOP, the muscle behind its 2010 victories. But Campbell and Putnam see an ominous similarity to the 1960s anti-Vietnam War movement and the damage it did to Democratic election fortunes.

Like the anti-war movement, the tea party has brought energy and passion to politics — but also a stridency and tendency to extremism that’s eventually a turn-off for voters, especially the independents and moderates vital to victory.

“By embracing the tea party,” Campbell and Putnam warn, “Republicans risk repeating history.” We’ll see. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

From the standpoint of future politics and the 2012 presidential race, the most significant finding from the studies may involve the geographical distribution of the tea party loyalists. If the CBS/Times study has it right, the tea party participation is principally a Southern phenomenon. More than a third “hail from the South, far more than any other region,” it found, and that has important implications for the GOP next year and perhaps beyond.

What is it about the South anyway?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-28   13:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#1)

What is it about the South anyway?

They don't like Yankees and socialists, which are frequently the same bunch.

These stats indicate that the Tea Party is likely to secede from the union and form the Confederated Tea States of America (CTSOA).

You Yankees can keep hObama and Romney.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

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Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-28   14:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#2)

They don't like Yankees and socialists, which are frequently the same bunch.

Then how about they stoop taking our money?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-28   16:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S, *Humor* (#0)

It’s no secret the modern Republican Party has moved dramatically to the right.

ROTFLMAO!

This is from The Onion,right?

Who else would ask life-long denizens of NYC to define conservatives?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-08-29   7:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#1)

What is it about the South anyway?

We are sane.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-08-29   7:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#3)

Then how about they stoop taking our money?

Yeah,like you have ever had any money to take.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-08-29   7:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#5)

We are sane.

Then low scores in life expectancy, education, poverty, etc. must bee southern goals.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-29   9:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysidiotmommy (#3)

Then how about they stoop taking our money? (SIC)

You actually make the overall average intelligence of world DIP whenever you open your pie hole and spew out your master's insipid libTURD garbage bitch.

YOU don't have any money bitch. YOU never had any money and you NEVER will have any money unless your gooberment masters give it to you bitch.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-29   14:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysidiotlibTURDwhoremommy (#7)

.

You libTURDS are the whole package eh skank?

You are petty, mean spirited, chicken shit, COWARDLY, LIARS, and RACISTS, you are against the NORMAL people of YOUR own country because your political masters tell you to be that way.

YOU and ALL of your fellow libTURDS are base FILTH.

The lowest redneck working in the smallest meanest field has more value to AMERICA and the entire world than ALL of you libTURD FILTH combined.

Why don't you take US out of YOUR misery bitch?

KILL yourself now, SAVE the planet bitch.

SAVE AMERICA libTURDS!

KILL YOURSELF NOW!

Spit ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-29   14:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#7)

Then low scores in life expectancy, education, poverty, etc. must bee southern goals.

You must bee wrong again.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-08-29   23:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lucysmom (#1)

"What is it about the South anyway?"

What is it about the South? The cultural richness of the South along with the South's pride are what really angers the North. The North no longer has an identity. What in this day and age can anyone say is great about the North? There is no real legacy that the North brings to the table. The only thing the North can do today is continue to talk down on the South. As if we, the people from the South even cared.

What is it about the South? The South is the thorn in this governments side. The South continues to face, head on, issues that are important to our families and their future. God, family, home, property, States Rights, small government. It's about having the courage to stand by your convictions, even when the odds seem against you, and ignorance abounds.

You, and other trash like you, talk down about the Tea Parties, but who are they, do you even know who the hell these people are you trash, do you know where they come from? They are Southerners, yes, but they are also Northerners, Westerners, and Easteners who have put their past hates aside and joined with one another against an overpoweing, greedy, corrupt and evil government. Southerners have always known what it is the feds were truley after and considering they never had the oportunities of a good education back then, like most have today, just how STUPID does that make you look?

As long as you have nothing precious left to hold on to, nothing left to be proud of, nothing left to fight for, to die for, you will never understand the heart and courage of a real Southerner! JMHO!

Murron  posted on  2011-08-30   8:06:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Murron (#11)

As long as you have nothing precious left to hold on to, nothing left to be proud of, nothing left to fight for, to die for, you will never understand the heart and courage of a real Southerner! JMHO!

You make a passionate defense of your beloved South, but let us not forget it is that same passionate Southern heart that accepted and defended slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation. It is a peculiar mindset that claims to love freedom unto death while so cruelly robbing others of that same freedom.

IMHO, the same mentality that fostered historical slavery in the South is at the core of the South's persistent problems - a sort of communal cognitive dissonance.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-30   10:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#7)

Then low scores in life expectancy, education, poverty, etc. must bee southern goals.

You really are the most clueless person I have ever seen on the internet,and that's saying something.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-08   11:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Murron (#11)

BRAVO!

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-08   11:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#12)

It is a peculiar mindset that claims to love freedom unto death while so cruelly robbing others of that same freedom.

Sez the idiot that loves to lick the boots of her federal masters who insist on telling us how to live ever single moment of our lives,or face federal prison.

IMHO, the same mentality that fostered historical slavery in the South is at the core of the South's persistent problems - a sort of communal cognitive dissonance.

You may have opinions,but it would also be helpful to have a mind to form an opinion.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-08   11:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#15)

Sez the idiot that loves to lick the boots of her federal masters who insist on telling us how to live ever single moment of our lives,or face federal prison.

Yet youse cheer the defense of a people so spiritually and intelectually corrupt as to rob others, literally, of life and freedom while claiming they have a God given right to do so.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-08   12:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lucysmom (#16)

literally, of life

How many people who support baby murder have you voted for? Literally? You know it is your fault those babies died if you vote for baby killers.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-08   12:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)

And if men struggle and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-08   12:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Murron (#11)

There is no real legacy that the North brings to the table. The only thing the North can do today is continue to talk down on the South. As if we, the people from the South even cared.

The legacy of the South is that working for slave wages for the plantation owner has now spread to all parts of the country.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-08   13:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#17)

How many people who support baby murder have you voted for? Literally? You know it is your fault those babies died if you vote for baby killers.

Yeah right, and this type of borderline thinking which seems rampant among Tea Baggers will crash your 'party' so to speak.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-08   13:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#5)

What is it about the South anyway?

We are sane.

I'm originally from Louisiana, but I have been working in North Carolina for some time. Well, as part of my job, I was dealing with a lady on the phone, and all of a sudden she blurts out, "are you a yankee"? I say, "why would you ask me that"

It seems I said the word "pecan," and pronounced it puh-KAHN and she felt it should be pronounced PEE-can. I told her I am from Louisiana and we consider her to be the yankee.

She took it all in good stride, but from what I have discerned since then, PEE-can is definitely the more yankee version.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-09-08   13:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lucysmom, sneakypete (#16)

Yet youse cheer the defense of a people so spiritually and intelectually corrupt as to rob others, literally, of life and freedom while claiming they have a God given right to do so.

Before you start suffering from nosebleed from being up on your high horse, you might want to consider this world famous picture taken in the 70s in that bastion of Kennedy Statism - Boston, MA.

And no, I'm not from the South. I just hate stereotypes.

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HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-08   13:47:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#22)

The working class Irish are, and always have been, the main enemy of the black man...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
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I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-08   13:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war, Luscysmom (#23)

That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.

Who knows - it may even exist in the land of Lucysmom - aka California.

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HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-08   13:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#24)

That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.

I'm curious as to who would post that.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-08   13:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold (#25)

I'm curious as to who would post that.

I posted it.

Your first clue should be the letters G-E-T O-U-T-T-A D-O-D-G-E-!

__________________________________________________________________________________________

HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-08   14:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#26)

I posted it.

Your first clue should be the letters G-E-T O-U-T-T-A D-O-D-G-E-!

You posted the premise that racism is only limited to the South?

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-08   14:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#24)

That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.

Nope. Started the same way all up and down the colonies. The Irish were one step above Negro slaves and were treated as such and, in some cases, worse. It's always been a pecking order thing with them.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-08   14:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mininggoldlucysmom (#27)

You posted the premise that racism is only limited to the South?

Nope, that's the premise of the article and holier-than-thou types like lucysmom

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HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-08   15:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Brian S (#0)

Just who are the people of the tea party...

The Tea Party is comprised of the same type of people who were in Ross Perot's United We Stand.

Salt-of-the-earth, hard working, family-oriented people who are sick and tired of the politicians and bureaucrats destroying our future with spending, borrowing and debt.

That's who is in the Tea Party.


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jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-08   15:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#28)

That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.

Nope. Started the same way all up and down the colonies. The Irish were one step above Negro slaves and were treated as such and, in some cases, worse. It's always been a pecking order thing with them.

So - are you saying the Irish were solely responsible for racial prejudice?

Weren't/aren't the Kennedys Irish?

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HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-08   15:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#24)

That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.

No doubt.

Prejudice was institutionalized and defended in the South.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-08   15:26:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#31)

So - are you saying the Irish were solely responsible for racial prejudice?

Nope. But they certainly have never gotten over it.

Weren't/aren't the Kennedys Irish?

Yep...old man Joe was as racist as they come...IIRC...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-08   15:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#29) (Edited)

Nope, that's the premise of the article and holier-than-thou types like lucysmom

I don't see that written in the article or ever posted by lucysmom.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-08   15:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lucysmom (#34)

Ping to above

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-08   15:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: lucysmom (#16)

Yet youse cheer the defense of a people so spiritually and intelectually corrupt as to rob others, literally, of life and freedom while claiming they have a God given right to do so.

No,that's YOU doing that,you dummy.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-08   17:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#24)

That may be true - it just underscored that racial prejudice isn't just limited to the South.

Who knows - it may even exist in the land of Lucysmom - aka California.

It does. They hate white people who don't feel guilty for being white.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-08   18:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#28)

Nope. Started the same way all up and down the colonies. The Irish were one step above Negro slaves and were treated as such and, in some cases, worse. It's always been a pecking order thing with them.

There is no group of people in America today that are more racist than blacks.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-08   18:14:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: lucysmom (#32)

Prejudice was institutionalized and defended in the South.

I know this might not be possible due to the density of rock,but try to educate yourself. It was BLACKS that sold their fellow blacks into slavery,and it is only blacks who are still practicing slavery today.

AND......,the financiers were from the north.

Not to mention the fact that Lincoln stated he would be content to allow slavery to remain in the south if they didn't secede,or that people in the north (including General and President U.S.Grant owned slaves and slavery wasn't outlawed in the north until AFTER the War of Northern Aggression ended.

That war had nothing to do with slavery,and everything to do with federalism.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-08   18:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete, lucysmom (#39)

Not to mention the fact that Lincoln stated he would be content to allow slavery to remain in the south if they didn't secede,or that people in the north (including General and President U.S.Grant owned slaves and slavery wasn't outlawed in the north until AFTER the War of Northern Aggression ended.

That war had nothing to do with slavery,and everything to do with federalism.

Ignorance is Bliss pete, and this poster wallows in it....

Murron  posted on  2011-09-08   18:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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