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Title: Christians Blast Bloomberg For Not Inviting God To 9/11 Memorial Ceremony
Source: gothamist
URL Source: http://gothamist.com/2011/08/24/chr ... ns_blast_bloomberg_for_not.php
Published: Aug 25, 2011
Author: gothamist
Post Date: 2011-08-25 12:12:01 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 58191
Comments: 76

The atheists aren't the only ones making a stink about the goings-on at Ground Zero; the former Deputy Mayor under Rudy Giuliani is lambasting Mayor Bloomberg for excluding religion from the upcoming 10th anniversary ceremony at the World Trade Center. "This is America, and to have a memorial service where there's no prayer, this appears to be insanity to me," Rudy Washington tells the Wall Street Journal. "I feel like America has lost its way."

Bloomberg has never let spiritual leaders hold prayers or sermonize at any of the annual 9/11 gatherings, but Washington, who organized an interfaith ceremony at Yankee Stadium after the attack in 2001, says he's "very upset" Bloomberg isn't making an exception this year (it being the diamond anniversary and all). And Washington's not the only God-fearing fulminator: City Council Member Fernando Cabrera, a pastor at New Life Outreach International in the Bronx, says he's just plain "shocked" the clergy isn't on the list.

To be fair, it is quite an exclusive event this year; even Chris Christie had to practically beg to get a plus-one. "There are hundreds of important people that have offered to participate over the last nine years, but the focus remains on the families of the thousands who died on Sept. 11," Evelyn Erskine, a mayoral spokeswoman, tells the Journal. That's a very diplomatic statement, but we all know the real reason is the mayor doesn't want the headache of another atheist lawsuit.

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#8. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Just goes to show how impotent the government is in the lives and faith of real Americans anymore. Churches will have their own services. I am attending one in my state. We don't need the government to sponsor worship. If Bloomberg doesn't want to make a stand for the God who has blessed the United States, then he better be prepared to pay the consequences. That's ok with me. Let him personally pay the consequences.

No matter what he does, he can't stop people from worshiping and praying.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-08-25   15:19:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: diva betsy ross, Brian S, Fred Mertz, Skip Intro (#8)

If Bloomberg doesn't want to make a stand for the God who has blessed the United States...

has blessed - past tense? You mean on 9/11 God stopped blessing America?

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-25   15:35:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Godwinson (#11)

No, I don't mean that at all. How silly. God still blesses those who say: God bless America. That is the way it has always worked.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-08-25   22:13:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: diva betsy ross (#18)

God still blesses those who say: God bless America. That is the way it has always worked.

Please goto an indigenous "Indian" reservation in the USA and tell the tribal chief whom suffers from diabetes, Alzheimer Disease, alcoholism. And, while you are at it, as you find time, please go down into a USA central city (ANYWHERE, USA) and tell the locals your remarckable conclusions.

In two simple and obvious cases I am sure you shall start a riot and it won't be laffing.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-25   22:24:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo (#19) (Edited)

Are you serious? No you can not be a serious thinker.

You do know that I am Sioux and Cherokee... right? I am also NOT an Indian, that is such a bunch of PC crap. "Indeginious Indian" is also PC crap, fool~ and shows a total lack of understating. Indians are from India.

Get it right.. Tribal people are called by the tribe and their clan. I am Sioux, Cherokee and a Highlander of Scotland, and my ancestors were in the Sudbury Militia , at the beginning of the Revolutionary War. I know exactly what they were fighting about.

Step off, buck. You are a real fool sometimes.

PC- Indians- who know better.. (Pleaseeeee) Fool.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-08-26   7:54:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: diva betsy ross (#20)

Are you serious? No you can not be a serious thinker.

Since you want to answer your own rhetorical questions, I should allow you to continue wondering about my truthful statements. But, I won't let you keep hanging.

This idea that "God is Good" under the condition that a creator is entirely faith based within say, the Christian faith or the Muslim faith or the Buddhist faith or the Hindu faith et al., is foolish to consider for most serious or critical thinking people. Now, don't misunderstand my viewpoint: religious faith in a creator is important to each and everyone but the idea that any single faith is more genuine, "godlike", divine and so forth is silly to me.

The history of the Christian faith is filled with hate-mongering more so than any other religion on the planet. It attempts to subject everyone to its interpretation of the creator and the fundamental purpose of mankind's being. And, you can verify this statement through the Holy Bible and where the Bible leaves off from "Revelations" the history of Man takes over from there to the present time.

The subjugation of land and peoples throughout history is as much a part of the Christian faith as it is today. I am afraid, although you are a devout Christian, that you just don't know what you are talking about.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-26   8:20:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: buckeroo (#21)

As I said buck, you are a fool. You let the Devil keep you on the reservation, where you are confined and easily led.. and a victim of your own victimhood.

You have no ability to discern truth from fiction. Religion is indeed responsible for much violence throughout the history of the world.

But I am not talking about religion. I don't have a religion. No one in my family tree had a religion that I am aware of....

Faith is something you do not know about from your ancestral origins, from your knowledge of American history, from your knowledge of the Bible, from your knowledge of Jesus, or from your ability to have a critical thought.

The proof is in the pudding. My family tree is full of outrageous blessings and prosperity and good health ,for hundreds of years-and I believe, like they believed, that it is because we have favor with God.

Anyone can have favor with God, if they so choose. Seems you choose NOT to have favor- and much of your ancestry chose NOT to have favor.

I know exactly what I am talking about. You are a victim of revisionist history.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-08-26 09:13:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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