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Title: Obama's Stunning Victory In Libya Has GOP Candidates Sputtering - Again...
Source: The NY Times
URL Source: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/ ... and-indifference/?ref=politics
Published: Aug 23, 2011
Author: Sarah Wheatman
Post Date: 2011-08-23 10:43:35 by war
Keywords: Obama Greatest, CIC, Since FDR
Views: 6971
Comments: 24

During remarks in New Hampshire in last month, Mitt Romney accused President Obama of “mission muddle” for expanding United States operations in Libya beyond enforcing a no-fly zone to a wider goal of preventing Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi from attacking his own people.

“Now the president is saying we have to remove Qaddafi,” Mr. Romney said at the time, adding, “Who’s going to own Libya if we get rid of the government there?”

But on Monday evening, as the rebels surged through Tripoli, Mr. Romney told Neil Cavuto of Fox Business Network that “the world celebrates the idea of getting rid of Qaddafi.” And instead of assessing Mr. Obama’s actions, he called on a new Libyan government to extradite the man convicted in the 1988 Lockerbie bombing.

Mr. Romney’s maneuvering reflected the difficulty for Republican presidential candidates as they reacted to news that could bolster Mr. Obama’s national security credentials. And the candidates’ responses on Monday illustrated the soul-searching within the party over Libya, as several maintained that the United States did not have enough at stake to merit any military involvement.

The developments were cause for “cautious celebration,” said Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, one of the first candidates to release a statement. “The lasting impact of events in Libya will depend on ensuring rebel factions form a unified, civil government that guarantees personal freedoms, and builds a new relationship with the West where we are allies instead of adversaries.”

In his statement, Mr. Romney expressed similar sentiments, but added a specific demand, “As a first step, I call on this new government to arrest and extradite the mastermind behind the bombing of Pan Am 103, Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi, so justice can finally be done.”

Mr. Megrahi was the only person convicted in the 1988 attack that left 270 dead, including 189 Americans — when a plane was bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland. When his death from cancer appeared imminent in 2009, Scotland released him to Libya on compassion grounds, but he remains alive. The issue is of personal importance, Mr. Romney told the radio host Hugh Hewitt in March, because a friend from his days at the private equity firm Bain and Company was among those killed.

By concentrating on a specific American grievance, Mr. Romney can offer justification for supporting military action while laying the groundwork for criticizing Mr. Obama if Mr. Megrahi remains in Libya.

Reactions from candidates who had objected outright to military involvement showed a more striking tonal shift.

Jon M. Huntsman Jr. had been one of the sharpest critics of Mr. Obama’s actions in Libya, even though, as the ambassador to China, Mr. Huntsman had once been part of the Democratic president’s foreign policy team.

“Governor Huntsman’s view remains that intervention in Libya was a mistake and not core to our national security interest,” his spokesman, Tim Miller, said.

However, that objection was not evident in Mr. Huntsman’s official statement on Monday: “The impending fall of Colonel Qaddafi is one chapter in the developing story of a nation in turmoil. Qaddafi has been a longtime opponent of freedom, and I am hopeful — as the whole world should be — that his defeat is a step toward openness, democracy and human rights for a people who greatly deserve it.”

Representative Michele Bachmann stood by her original position on Monday. “I opposed U.S. military involvement in Libya and I am hopeful that our intervention there is about to end,” she said.

But in expressing hope that the new government would be “one that will be a good partner to the United States and the international community,” Mrs. Bachmann’s statement lacked earlier, ominous notes.

“We to this day don’t yet know who the rebel forces are that were helping,” she said during a June 13 debate. “There are some reports that they may contain Al Qaeda of North Africa. What possible vital American interests could we have to empower Al Qaeda of North Africa and Libya?”

Her spokeswoman, Alice Stewart, did not respond to an e-mail asking whether Mrs. Bachmann is still concerned about possible terrorist elements within the Transitional National Council.

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#1. To: war (#0) (Edited)

What stunning victory?

I haven't seen Qaddafi paraded in chains yet.

And we have no idea of when the Oil Shipments resume.

And when oil does begin flowing, it won't be anywhere near the January 1.6 MMBD.

As the USEmpire continues to bleed wealth InTo Libya.

This ain't over.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-23   10:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war (#0)

But I understand what you mean.

Obama did not declare war. Was making zero progress. Then and all of a sudden....

we're in Tripoli.

Deals have been done....;}

But one, at least of Qaddafi's Sons has ESCAPED....LMAO

Obama better hurry cause Irene's looking to tear up the Eastern Seaboard.

If it rakes, DelMarVa, Obama will be in the same fix as Poppy with Andrew bush43 with Katrina....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-23   10:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#0)

Sharia for all of North Afrika, ain't that Hopey Changey grand? OBAMA AKBAR!

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-08-23   11:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Happy Quanzaa (#3) (Edited)

There's really no reason to read you making the same comment over and over.

Bye!!!

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-23   11:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#4)

There's really no reason to read you making the same comment over and over.

You'll have to BOZO half the world to keep from hearing that comment when everybody realizes how badly your boy Barry screwed up Egypt and Libya.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-08-23   11:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#0)

When the Libyan rebels start slaughtering the residents of Tripoli will NATO resume its bombing missions?

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-23   11:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Happy Quanzaa (#5)

Barry screwed up Egypt and Libya.

Camelot didn't last too long either !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-08-23   11:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mcgowanjm, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#1) (Edited)

As the USEmpire continues to bleed wealth InTo Libya.

Whoa hoss! Where's the 144 tons of Lybian gold? Looting and pillaging these oil rich countries has to be very profitable, but who's getting the loot? Maybe Sarkozy and hObama are splitting it with their Chinese lenders.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-23   12:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Happy Quanzaa, *Arab Revolution On Parade* (#5)

You'll have to BOZO half the world to keep from hearing that comment when everybody realizes how badly your boy Barry screwed up Egypt and Libya.

Screwed up?

I'm absolutely delighted watching you zionist potlickers shitting your pants.

This is what I voted for, indeed!

The bastard state, some call israel, is waning. Shouldn't be long now. {{{chuckle}}}

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-08-23   12:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Brian S (#9)

*indeed*

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-23   16:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#8)

Whoa hoss! Where's the 144 tons of Lybian gold? Looting and pillaging these oil rich countries has to be very profitable, but who's getting the loot? Maybe Sarkozy and hObama are splitting it with their Chinese lenders.

See Chavez for details....;}

And speaking of Venezuela, where's Muammar?? 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-23   17:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

things have not gotten better. And they are about to get much worse."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-23   17:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S, Boris Y (#9)

Title: The bastard state - israel ... is waning --- Shouldn't be long now. {{{chuckle}}} Source: libertysflame.com URL Source: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23429 Published: Aug 23, 2011 Author: Brian SS Post Date: 2011-08-23 20:39:48 by byeltsin Views: 4

#9. To: Happy Quanzaa, *Arab Revolution On Parade* (#5)

You'll have to BOZO half the world to keep from hearing that comment when everybody realizes how badly your boy Barry screwed up Egypt and Libya.

Screwed up?

I'm absolutely delighted watching you zionist potlickers shitting your pants.

This is what I voted for, indeed!

The bastard state, some call israel, is waning. Shouldn't be long now. {{{chuckle}}}

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S posted on 2011-08-23

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Yeltsin is a pussy...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-23   20:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#13)

Yeltsin is a pussy...

"They" all are when it really comes down to 'where the bear shit in the buckwheat'...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-08-23   22:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#13)

Post Date: 2011-08-23 20:39:48 by byeltsin Views: 4

I've got that banjo picking retard on bozo here. I think that may be one reason why Goldi gave me a stealth ban. Banjo boy posted on elPee my reply putting him on bozo here.

Whatever. He must be a Zionist. And a drama queen. And a pot head.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-08-23   22:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

And a pot head.

Knock it off, Fred!

:)

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-08-23   22:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#0)

Obama's victory?

No.

If there actually is a victory there, it belongs to the Libyan people and France, who were way out in front of Obama on supporting the Libyan rebels.


I will work every day to try to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your life as I can -- Rick Perry. believe him or not, it's a hell of quote in a country looking to D.C. for answers.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-08-23   23:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jwpegler (#17)

If there actually is a victory there, it belongs to the Libyan people and France, who were way out in front of Obama on supporting the Libyan rebels.

Nice try but I'm not surprised that you're trying to re-write history.

The US pushed for a no-fly zone and then, when authorized by the UN, was the first to enforce it until NATO assets were in place.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-24   8:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#0)

Obama's Stunning Victory In Libya

If he asks nice, maybe Bush will let him borrow this banner: :-)

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HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-08-24   8:18:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Brian S (#9)

The bastard state, some call israel, is waning. Shouldn't be long now. {{{chuckle}}}

You statists are so full of . . .

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. . . .love!

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HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-08-24   8:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#19)

If he asks nice, maybe Bush will let him borrow this banner: :-)

Did you know that the infamous banner is the only "mistake" that Bush has ever owned up to?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-24   9:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war (#21)

Did you know that the infamous banner is the only "mistake" that Bush has ever owned up to?

Which puts him one-up on the current WH occupant.

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HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-08-24   9:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#22)

Which puts him one-up on the current WH occupant.

Chuckles...weak...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-24   10:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#23)

weak...

Maybe . . .

But it made you chukle . . .

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HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-08-24   10:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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