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Title: Gold Extends Record Price Past $1,900 An Ounce
Source: WSJ
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110822-712328.html
Published: Aug 22, 2011
Author: WSJ
Post Date: 2011-08-22 19:46:57 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 11428
Comments: 27

--Comex December gold touches intraday record at $1,901.70 in after-market trade

--Hopes that Fed will hint at more stimulus buoy gold

--SPDR Gold Shares ETF outpaces value of SPDR S&P 500 ETF as investors flock to gold

 
   By Tatyana Shumsky 
   Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES 
 

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Gold breached $1,900 in after-market trading as strong demand for a store of value pushed prices to fresh records.

Gold has marched higher for six consecutive trading days, setting new records for four consecutive trading days including Monday. Gold continued making gains after Comex floor trading finished Monday, with the most actively traded contract, for December delivery, touching a record $1,901.70 a troy ounce.

"This is a raging bull market," said Ralph Preston, analyst with Heritage West Financial.

The December contract had gained $39.70, or 2.1%, to settle at a record $1,891.90 a troy ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Thinly traded August-delivery gold settled at a record $1,888.70 a troy ounce, up $39.80, or 2.2%, after touching an intraday record of $1,895.00.

Gold's gains come amid growing speculation the U.S. won't be able to resist another round of stimulus and broader worries about the global economy.

Investors are eagerly awaiting Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke's speech at an economic symposium in Jackson Hole, Wyo., on Friday. Last year, the Fed chairman raised the idea of further monetary stimulus in his speech, and many investors are buying gold in hopes of similar hints this year.

"Should Bernanke put a damper on [stimulus] expectations, the yellow metal could well experience the correction that potential investors have been impatiently awaiting," said Edel Tuly, a strategist with UBS.

While some investors are buying gold to hedge against inflation, which is likely to arise from another round of stimulus, others are worried the U.S. economy will slip into recession without such help and are purchasing gold to hedge against possible losses in other assets.

Gold prices are also rising amid renewed appetite for a hedge against political uncertainty in the Middle East, where a civil conflict in Libya looks headed for a conclusion. Rebels seized control of most of the nation's capital, Tripoli, over the weekend. The whereabouts of Libyan leader, Col. Moammar Gadhafi, are unknown.

Investors have voted with their dollars as the cloudy prospects of the U.S. economy and rising stock-market volatility cause more funds to be channeled toward gold.

The value of SPDR Gold Shares (GLD), the world's largest physical-gold-backed exchange-traded fund, surpassed that of SPDR S&P 500 (SPY) ETF Friday. Net assets for SPDR Gold Shares totalled $76.67 billion as of Friday, outpacing the $74.38 billion of the S&P ETF.

"While investors may be using gold to tactically hedge against current market concerns, there is a long-term strategic case for gold in all market cycles," said Jim Ross, senior managing director and global head of SPDR ETFs at State Street Global Advisors, the marketing agent for SPDR Gold Shares.

Platinum settled at a three-year high amid spill-over buying as investors seek to diversify their holdings of precious metals. Platinum's success, in particular, was also aided by hopes of an early recovery in Japan's automotive production, which was stalled by a massive earthquake and tsunami earlier this year, Gero said.

Platinum is widely used in making car exhaust filters, known as catalytic converters.

Platinum for October delivery, the most actively traded contract, settled at $1,905.70 a troy ounce, up $30.80 or 1.6%, after touching an intraday high of $1,906.80.

 
Settlements (ranges include open-outcry and electronic trading): 
London PM Gold Fix: $1,877.50; previous PM $1,848.00 
Dec gold $1,891.90, up $39.70; Range $1,858.00-$1,899.40 
Sep silver $43.325, up 89.3 cents; Range $42.475-$44.090 
Oct platinum $1,905.70, up $30.80; Range $1,881.20-$1,909.90 
Sep palladium $765.10, up $16.30; Range $743.50-$766.80 


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#2. To: Brian S (#0)

"This is a raging bull market," said Ralph Preston, analyst with Heritage West Financial.

Bullshit.

The fiat-money house of cards is collapsing. Better to put your money in something that they can't print into nothingness.

But hey, RELAX, yeah? As wing-ding/loonymom keeps telling us, it's "just a bubble."

Stupid.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-22   23:08:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Capitalist Eric (#2)

The fiat-money house of cards is collapsing. Better to put your money in something that they can't print into nothingness.

Gold was $875 an ounce in 1980; that would translate to $2,400 an ounce today.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-23   1:15:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#3)

Gold was $875 an ounce in 1980; that would translate to $2,400 an ounce today.

True. By BLS calculations for CPI from 1980 until now, the gold should be ~$2390/oz. This tracks with the government-generated inflation average of ~3% annually. It also assumes a gold price- as you quote- of $875/oz. But looking at the historical chart for 1980, average gold price was more along the lines of ~$620/oz. Thus, the inflation adjust price using BLS numbers would be ~$1920/oz- which tracks closely to where gold is currently at...

But there's an underlying problem in your statement: The government LIES, all the time.

Actual inflation over that same time-frame was ~8%. Since 1.08^32=11.9564, that means that gold should be ~12 times the 1980 price, or roughly $7412.96636/oz.

What does this really mean? It means that go isn't in a "bubble." It means that the government has been actively surpressing the price of gold, ever since Nixon broke the Bretton-Woods agreement. [To those of us who do the deep- dive into this, this isn't a surprise.]

The efforts of the government to suppress prices (and actual economic data such as CPI, inflation and unemployment) are failing. Gold will continue to rise, as the fiat-money house of cards continues to collapse.

Silver should be (using the same real inflation rates) of $48 (going by 1984 silver prices). However, since the price of silver has been actively manipulated by large commercial banks for decades, even that number is very suspect.

Considering how many silver and gold "certificates" have been sold- several magnitudes more than there is physical gold or silver in existence- the prices have been passively suppressed through this method, as well.

But as the demand from Venezuela has demonstrated, their recall of their 90 tons of gold- a relatively small amount, considering the actual amount of gold that has already been mined- there are severe distortions in play in the gold market, at this time... When the distortions are cleared from the market- which will occur when the fiat-systems collapse- prices will more accurately reflect reality.

The government games are coming to an end... and those holding fiat-dollars will find that their Federal Reserve Notes are returning their intrinsic value... as pieces of paper.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-23   11:16:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)

Actual inflation over that same time-frame was ~8%. Since 1.08^32=11.9564, that means that gold should be ~12 times the 1980 price, or roughly $7412.96636/oz.

So then you're paying ten bucks a pound for hamburger and over four dollars a pound for a whole chicken (not organic free range)?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-23   11:35:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#11)

So then you're paying ten bucks a pound for hamburger and over four dollars a pound for a whole chicken (not organic free range)?

Basically, yes.

What do you think we're talking about, when the financial implosion really hits hard? What do you think is going to happen, when the rest of the world eventually drops the dollar as the reserve currency...?

Oh, BTW, your social-security checks may increase a trivial amount... you'll get your checks (for a while), but the problem is that the rocketing prices mean the checks won't be worth anything.

It's happened many times before, in history... it's gonna' happen again.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-23   13:02:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Capitalist Eric (#13)

Basically, yes.

Where do you shop?

What do you think is going to happen, when the rest of the world eventually drops the dollar as the reserve currency...?

What will take its place? Eventually the dollar may loose it's reserve currency role, but that happening in the near future is pretty unlikely. The British pound was the reserve currency before the dollar and still life goes on for the Brits.

Oh, BTW, your social-security checks may increase a trivial amount... you'll get your checks (for a while), but the problem is that the rocketing prices mean the checks won't be worth anything.

Are you then recommending I buy gold?

I have been poor in the past and survived. I much prefer having money, it's a lot more fun; however having been there, done that, and come out the other end intact, the prospect of being poor again does not terrify me. That, my friend, is freedom.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-23   13:15:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#14)

Where do you shop?

Irrelevant.

What will take its place? Eventually the dollar may loose it's reserve currency role, but that happening in the near future is pretty unlikely. The British pound was the reserve currency before the dollar and still life goes on for the Brits.

The difference is that the dollar replaced the pound. When the Brazilian peso collapsed in 2001, there was the dollar. Same with the (Soviet) ruble collapsed, the dollar was the black-market medium of exchange.

There isn't anything to replace the dollar- at this particular time. And that's why people are buying precious metals. I read an article where one gold dealer on EBay was saying his gold sales have increased six-fold, in the last month...

People are starting to understand that we're in a serious situation, and the government will not save us. On the contrary, the government is why we're here.

Are you then recommending I buy gold?

My thoughts on this subject are well-documented, on this forum.

I have been poor in the past and survived. I much prefer having money, it's a lot more fun; however having been there, done that, and come out the other end intact, the prospect of being poor again does not terrify me. That, my friend, is freedom.

That, loonymom, is an excuse, an explanation for your normalcy bias, which has no room for what's coming.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-23   15:36:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)

That, loonymom, is an excuse, an explanation for your normalcy bias, which has no room for what's coming.

Right-O

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