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Title: Five bummer problems that make societies collapse
Source: Transition Voice
URL Source: http://transitionvoice.com/2011/08/ ... -that-make-societies-collapse/
Published: Aug 18, 2011
Author: Erik Curren
Post Date: 2011-08-21 12:07:48 by lucysmom
Keywords: This is the way the world ends
Views: 12436
Comments: 33

“If anyone tells you that there’s a single-factor explanation for societal collapse,” says collapse guru Jared Diamond, “you know right away that they’re an idiot. This is a complex subject.”

So, forget about peak debt, peak oil, peak climate, peak Harry Potter or even peak everything as the single most important problem that could bring today’s whole pulsing, beaming and txt-mssgng mess down into a lifeless pile of shorted-out microchips, rusted carburetors and busted sporks from Taco Bell.

In a TED talk that Diamond gave in 2003 with eerie relevance for this very minute, the author of two books on collapse, the solid-gold hit Guns, Germs and Steel and the more recent Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed, outlined five factors required for any advanced society to give up the ghost.

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Diamond thinks a big problem was that the rich and powerful were so into keeping up with the Joneses — “flogging” the land (that’s over-farming to you and me) to compete with other chiefs for who could bring in the most crops and support the biggest posse of loyal retainers — to do anything to stop the madness.

Or, as Diamond puts it, there was a conflict between the short-term interest of the elites and the long-term interest of the whole society. And, since the chiefs and bishops were largely insulated from the problems that their reckless consumption created, they didn’t see how messed up things were getting until it was too late.

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Five bummer problems that make societies collapse

1) Communists

2) Socialists

3) Progressive Multiculturalists

4) Greenies

5) Globalists

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-21   12:20:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Five bummer problems that make societies collapse

1) Communists

2) Socialists

3) Progressive Multiculturalists

4) Greenies

5) Globalists

BUWAHAHAHAHAHA....intake....BUWAHAHA 8D

The New Reality For Many (most) Baby Boomers Will Be To Work As Wage Slaves Until They Drop Dead

The ruling class now visits on its domestic populations the same fate it has delivered for hundreds of years to those deeply unfortunate peoples who lived in targeted foreign countries. In their pursuit of power, wealth and dominion, the ruling class systematically brutalized, tortured, "relocated" and murdered those foreign peoples in vast numbers. (All this continues today, of course; see Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, et al.) .... England and the United States are hollowed-out societies, with their former productive capacity vanishing at an ever-increasing rate. In close alliance with the State, the most powerful and wealthiest corporations continue to amass record profits, but only by siphoning up every last bit of wealth held by the numerically greatest, but otherwise weakest and most defenseless, part of the population."

Run out of Energy, you run out of civilization.

See Libya for details....;}

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The New Reality For Many (most) Baby Boomers Will Be To Work As Wage Slaves Until They Drop Dead

Baby boomers had it better than anyone. They had no reason not to save money.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-08-22 08:39:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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