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Title: The Rich lied to America. We want our jobs and money back
Source: the-peoples-forum.com
URL Source: http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23055
Published: Mar 3, 2011
Author: Destro
Post Date: 2011-08-19 13:07:50 by Godwinson
Keywords: None
Views: 4096
Comments: 6

The Rich lied to America. We want our jobs and money back.

**Standing in our way are most Republicans and some Democrats (that seems to be the ratio) who still carry water for the oligarchs that stole our fortunes away. How long will this go on before we correct their error?**

Post Date: 2011-03-03 11:44:40 by Destro

Back in the 90s the free-trade/globalization movement that had begun in earnest a decade earlier took full shape. At the time we had a Democratic President in Clinton who along with some Democrats from his party and most Republicans passed NAFTA and a host of other free trade / open border globalization economic policies.

The American people were told that if they supported globalization even if it led to outsourcing, the next phase in the economy would be one long boom because manufacturing was a dead end and part of the old economy. The new jobs would be the service industry in an office and or maybe people would get to work from home, etc.

Enough people bought into this economic ideology that in the 1990s the switch over began in earnest (long planned but carried out under Clinton).

Now we have had 20 years of this economic philosophy and the experiment has failed for most Americans. The American people have every right to ask for their money back from the he top 1% to 2% of the population that lied to them about the benefits of this new economy. If a new model automobile performed as poorly as the globalized economy did it would have been recalled already.

Why are you still carrying water for the top 1% to 2% who got there because the vast majority made their money from outsourcing production and selling it back to the American people at no discount? The vast difference in low production cost versus the sales price to Americans was pocketed by the top 1%. That is how the wealth transfer worked in earnest. Do you see much a difference in the retail cost of a product made overseas compared to the cost of a MADE IN THE USA brand (if you can still find such a thing)? These obscene profits resulting from the difference in low production costs came at the expense of an American manufacturing job with a decent wage.

Americans were willing to see their manufacturing base be reduced if it meant cost savings in retail outlets (it did not) and if new jobs paying comparable manufacturing sector wages appeared in service sectors to replace lost these outsourced manufacturing jobs (also did not happen). The reality is we lost jobs, many to never return and wages earned have shrunk for the Middle Class while the work load has increased.

As I see it, at this point freedom of action to correct the failed globalized American economy is limited to two avenues for the American people.

One is to undo all those free trade treaties signed in the last 20 years. It can be done but it would be difficult and lead to possible trade wars. In the short term it would be devastating to the economy if that was the case.

A more readily available solution is to take back the wealth from the top 2% of the population that made their fortunes in the last 2 decades in large part due to outsourcing and return (not transfer but RETURN) that money back to the rest of the population in the forms of government services like universal health care and investment in the nation's future (NASA, infrastructure, education).

The promises made by the top 2% via politicians and experts failed to materialize as promised. It is only fair that the rest of the 98% of the population who suffered from this failure are compensated back.

Standing in our way are most Republicans and some Democrats (that seems to be the ratio) who still carry water for the oligarchs that stole our fortunes away. How long will this go on before we correct their error?

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#1. To: Godwinson (#0)

some Democrats

Wall Street is controlled by Manhattan liberals.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-08-19   13:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: no gnu taxes (#1) (Edited)

Wall Street is controlled by Manhattan liberals.

So what? This call to action states that the refund from the top 2% back to the 98% of the population that was bamboozled by the economic policies of the last 30 years will affect them as well.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-19   13:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Godwinson (#2)

So what?

Wasn't Bernie Madoff a liberal !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-08-19   13:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BorisY (#3)

Wasn't Bernie Madoff a liberal !

So what? This call to action states that the refund from the top 2% back to the 98% of the population that was bamboozled by the economic policies of the last 30 years will affect them as well.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-19   13:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Godwinson (#0)

by Godwinson

No need to read further.

IDIOT.

The two sides in America are people who work for a living versus people who vote for their living.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-19   15:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#5)

No need to read further.

You've made that mistake before.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-23   10:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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