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Title: Thoughts from Taiwan
Source: Dissenting Opinions
URL Source: http://jwpegler.blogspot.com/2011/08/thoughts-from-taiwan.html
Published: Aug 19, 2011
Author: Eric Blankenburg
Post Date: 2011-08-19 08:36:27 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 84394
Comments: 163

I spent the last week in Taipei, Taiwan visiting a customer.

I've been all over Asia, but this was my first trip to Taiwan, other than catching a connecting flight at the airport.

I'm sitting here at Taiwan International Airport waiting for my 12 hour flight to Seattle, reflecting on my week.

I love Taiwan and its people. The city is on the move. People are hustling and working hard. Yet, they are extraordinarily friendly and caring.

Last night we went to Tower 101, which is one of the tallest buildings in the world. Until very recently, it also had the fastest elevator in the world. We climbed from the 5th floor to the observation deck on the 89th floor in a matter of seconds. The view was spectacular.

Taipei 101 is designed to withstand typhoon winds and earthquake tremors. Inside the building there is a 660 metric ton steel pendulum (my pic is on the left) which acts as a mass damper that sways to offset movements in the building caused by strong gusts of wind. It's the largest mass damper in the world and the building is an engineering marvel.

Afterwards, we had diner at a great restaurant that specializes in dumplings.

We were sitting at diner, looking at all of the energy in the city, the wonderful people, and everything that they've accomplished over the last 50 years. I couldn't help but think that if Chiang Kai Shek didn't lead 2 million people off of the mainland, all of these people and what they've accomplished wouldn't be here because the communists would have murdered their parents and grandparents for rebelling just as the communists murdered so many others.

Our thoughts quickly drifted to the problems we face in America. Although the American left haven't turned into mass murders (yet), they are killing the country nevertheless.

In Taiwan and the rest of Asia, you are expected to work and take care of yourself. If you can't, you rely on your family. In America (and Europe) the government's welfare system has destroyed the family by replacing it with a faceless, uncaring bureaucracy. They've also replaced our core values of hard work and responsibility with sloth and dependency. So, you've been on unemployment insurance for 2 years???!!! No problem, Obama and his minions will let you ride out the rest of your miserable life at the taxpayer's expense.

At one point last night I told my colleague that we should take every big mouth leftist in the U.S., and dump them off in Taiwan, the Philippines or elsewhere in Asia without a penny in their pocket. If they can manage to survive a year, both they and America would be better off when they come back. I seriously doubt that many of them could survive.

It's getting close to boarding time. I am so glad to becoming back to America with another shining example of how the American values of hardwork, thrift, and personal responsibility translate into success in every society. It is so sad that many Americans are losing those very values.

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#3. To: jwpegler, go65, lucysmom (#0)

In Taiwan and the rest of Asia, you are expected to work and take care of yourself. If you can't, you rely on your family.

Are you really this stupid? You make Taiwan out to be some Conservative Republican bastion but Taiwan has socialized single payer health care system.

To finance the scheme they chose a national insurance system: a single, government-run fund that forces everybody to join in and pay.

The result is a system that works a lot like Canada's, or like the U.S. Medicare system, but with more benefits.

By consolidating so much — one government plan that covers everybody — Taiwan achieves remarkable efficiency.

Everybody here has to have a smart card to go to the doctor. The doctor puts it in a reader and the patient's history and medications all show up on the screen. The bill goes directly to the government insurance office and is paid automatically.

So Taiwan has the lowest administrative costs in world: less than 2 percent.

"If a patient goes to see a doctor or hospital over 20 times a month, or 50 times in a three-month period, then the IT picks that person out. The person then gets a visit from the government, the Bureau of National Health Insurance, and they have a little chat. And this works very well," Cheng says.

That may be too much like Big Brother for some people in the United States, but surveys show the Taiwanese are highly satisfied with their health care.

Plus, no one goes bankrupt because of medical bills, Chang says.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-19   8:53:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Godwinson (#3)

By consolidating so much — one government plan that covers everybody — Taiwan achieves remarkable efficiency.

Taiwan has an entirely different social/economic and cultural backdrop than the USA; they have a population size of nearly 23,000,000 folks (all homogeneous Asian and about 7% of the US total population size) and have only a land mass of about 13,000 sq miles (slightly smaller than Maryland and Delaware combined).

You are talking apples and oranges when it comes to methods of government operation, much less touting some bureaucratic scheme to cover-up the vast failure of the US Medicare/Medicaid programs under the planned 0bamacKare.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-19   9:23:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo, jwpegler (#6) (Edited)

The merits of the Taiwanese system aside, I was contradicting jwpegler stupid claim that the Taiwanese are self sufficient and don't rely on govt for their private needs.

Here is that idiot's exact words: "In Taiwan and the rest of Asia, you are expected to work and take care of yourself. If you can't, you rely on your family. In America (and Europe) the government's welfare system has destroyed the family by replacing it with a faceless, uncaring bureaucracy. "

That is a lie. I am kind of shocked someone doing business (allegedly) in Taiwan would make something like this up......

Taiwan has a universal, govt bureaucracy run, single payer (govt) health care system. They (govt) even has bureaucracy checking on you to see why you are visiting the doctors so much to cut down on fraud and waste, The Taiwanese have an extensive social welfare system designed to keep harmony in the country.

I had to counter jwpegler's BS and call him out on it. I am not arguing that we should adopt Taiwan's system - that is a discussion for another day.

I hope that cleared up my intent on this post.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-19   9:35:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Godwinson, jwpegler (#7)

Here is that idiot's exact words:

First of all, your preface negates that you are discussing a successful businessman that probably spent $20,000 just going to Taiwan of his own cash to negotiate new contracts in America that potentially create MORE jobs within his industry here in the USA.

If I were you, I would modify your preface statement and congratulate jwpegler for his hard work to land a contract while making a few bucks.

"In Taiwan and the rest of Asia, you are expected to work and take care of yourself. If you can't, you rely on your family. In America (and Europe) the government's welfare system has destroyed the family by replacing it with a faceless, uncaring bureaucracy. "

I see no issue with his statement and more than that, it is a passing comment; it is mere reflection of his own view between nations; it is not a thesis submitted for careful analysis and scrutiny. The Taiwanese are very industrious and really don't enjoy government interference; you don't see the Taiwanese begging to belong to China do you?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-19   9:48:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeroo (#9)

it is not a thesis submitted for careful analysis and scrutiny.

The old Republican line of "his remark was not intended to be a factual statement"......

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-19   10:00:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Godwinson, jwpegler (#10)

jwpegler is not stumping to run for some political office or attempting to buy a vote.

The man deserves praise for his hard work negotiating business contracts, of which he hasn't discussed and he shouldn't. All jwpegler is doing is sharing his recent trip to Taiwan and exchanging a few views about his experiences while talking with colleagues.

Ask him questions. I am sure he will respond with candid answers whether you agree or not. As an example, I don't like Taiwanese fried fish of any kind. It almost makes me barf.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-19   10:07:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo, jwpegler (#11)

wpegler is not stumping to run for some political office or attempting to buy a vote.

He is spreading BS that affects the lives of Americans - some one reading this comes away saying, hey - why can't America be like the Taiwanese who don't have govt regulated social welfare to hold them back???

When in fact the Taiwanese have govt run social benefits up the ying/yang.

Facts are facts and no running for office does not negate one from stating them.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-19   10:14:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Godwinson, buckeroo, jwpegler, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#12)

He is spreading BS that affects the lives of Americans

You call everything that the gov does socialist. You're the biggest spreader of BS on LF! You've got a lot of dang gall, accusing anyone else of spreading BS.

When we pay taxes to gov to build a bridge, that's not socialist. When gov takes our tax money and gives it to socialists to do nothing, that's socialist!

It affects the lives of Americans in a negative way. . When "progressives" push political correct communist doctrine in the schools... braindead diversity, tolerance, and multiculturalism they're destroying America. Some stuff is intolerable, and we should oppose it. Ethnic groups naturally segregate which is why you have chinatown, little italy, etc. sections in most cities. Gov tries to force integration and creates strife. It's hObama's progressive "change", for the worse.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-19   10:58:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: hondo68 (#14)

You call everything that the gov does socialist. You're the biggest spreader of BS on LF! You've got a lot of dang gall, accusing anyone else of spreading BS.

When we pay taxes to gov to build a bridge, that's not socialist.

LOL! I am just using the term socialist in the Rush Limbough/FOX news/Right wing Radio/ sort of way - they call everything the govt does - socialist - except the military - which is ironic since that is the most socialist of all govt institutions.

The fact that you are the only one who has objected to this example being called 'socialist' proves that because in the minds of the others on here - it is socialism.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-19 11:15:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: hondo68 (#14)

Ethnic groups naturally segregate which is why you have chinatown, little italy, etc. sections in most cities.

Does that mean you don't think Americans should be free to purchase property and live where ever they want and can afford?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-19 12:04:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: hondo68 (#14)

Gov tries to force integration and creates strife. It's hObama's progressive "change", for the worse.

Ummm - there was strife before integration, it just wasn't your strife.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-19 12:10:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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