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Title: If Rep. Michele Bachmann is a good Christian why is she running for elective office which is against the Christian teaching that women should not have authority over men and are to keep silent?
Source: The New Testament
URL Source: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage ... h=1+Timothy+2%3A12&version=NIV
Published: Aug 15, 2011
Author: St. Timothy
Post Date: 2011-08-15 09:59:39 by Godwinson
Keywords: None
Views: 40118
Comments: 87

If Rep. Michele Bachmann is a good Christian why is she running for elective office which is against the Christian teaching that women should not have authority over men?

"no woman [is] to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent" (1 Timothy 2:12).

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#3. To: Godwinson (#0)

How can she be a good Christian when she routinely lies?

----- http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/bachmanns-waterloo/

Bachmann falsely claimed that she and her husband "have never gotten a penny" from a family farm that received federal subsidies. But she reported income from the farm in 2006, 2008 and 2009 — the most recent year available — on her congressional financial disclosure statements.

She claimed she had been "faithful" to her pledge not to request federal earmarks. But she requested $40 million in transportation earmarks in the 2009 fiscal year budget after taking the pledge, later claiming such projects should not be subjected to her promise. She withdrew her requests after the House Republicans took a party position in 2010 not to seek earmarks.

Bachmann wrongly blamed President Obama for increasing the number of federal transportation workers who earn more than $170,000 from one to 1,690 during the recession. At least two-thirds of those employees were receiving more than $170,000 before Obama took office.

She criticized the president for a 73 percent increase in government "limousines." But one department accounted for the increase, and it had a long-term plan, pre-dating Obama, to add armored vehicles. The term "limousine" includes armored vehicles and sedans, not just actual limos.

She claimed government money received by her husband's counseling clinics did not benefit the business, because the funds paid for employee training. It's true the clinics received $24,041 for training, but the business received thousands more in government funds, including money for treating crime victims.

The three-term congresswoman repeated — on two Sunday shows — the false claim that the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the federal health care law will "cost the economy 800,000 jobs." The CBO never said that. It said there will be a "small" impact on jobs.

go65  posted on  2011-08-15   10:25:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#3)

I am just wondering how Christian men can allow a woman to have authority over them in contradiction to the world of God?

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-15   10:26:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Godwinson (#4)

I am just wondering how Christian men can allow a woman to have authority over them in contradiction to the world of God?

I'll bet you were. *snicker*

Hey...did you know that the first religion in President Obama's life was Islam?

That the religion of his father, who named the President 'Barack Hussein was Islam?

When Barry was 6 years old, President Obama's mother then remarried an Indonesian Muslim whose beliefs had an inclusive flair. In his autobiography, President Obama described his stepfather's beliefs as "a brand of Islam that could make room for the remnants of more ancient animist and Hindu faiths."

0bama is just sooooo hip! He's into Muslim-Animism thing AND "COMMITMENT TO AFRICA"! What could possibly go wrong to America lead by a man who "leads" with such a (ahem) solid belief system and background??

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-15   11:20:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator, go65, lucysmom (#7)

Hey...did you know that the first religion in President Obama's life was Islam?

All this talk about Muslims so Liberator can ignore my question about how Christians can ignore the New Testament commandment that women should not have authority over men like Bachmann will have if she is elected president.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-15   12:24:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Godwinson, go65, lucysmom (#22) (Edited)

All this talk about Muslims so Liberator can ignore my question about how Christians can ignore the New Testament commandment that women should not have authority over men like Bachmann will have if she is elected president.

You still don't see the irony in your "standards", do you?

Btw, the quote, "women should not have authority over men" - can you cite that bootleg Scripture for me please? I have a real Bible.

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-15   12:52:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Liberator, go65, lucysmom (#25) (Edited)

Btw, the quote, "women should not have authority over men" - can you cite that bootleg Scripture for me please? I have a real Bible.

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent." (1 Timothy 2:12).

http://bible.cc/1_timothy/2-12.htm

Liberator, do you actually read your 'real' Bible?

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-15   12:56:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Godwinson (#28)

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent." (1 Timothy 2:12).

http://bible.cc/1_timothy/2-12.htm

Liberator, do you actually read your 'real' Bible?

Libby is one of those 'Christians' who only reads the Old Testament.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-15   13:00:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: whinnyold, gooberloserton, Liberator (#30)

Libby is one of those 'Christians' who only reads the Old Testament.

Lib do you see the absurdity of these two godless heathens talking about Christianity, (especially Christian theology), in general; and ANY Christian in the specific?

LOL!

These filthy godless libTURD SCUM don't have a clue.

LOL!

OBVIOUSLY!

LOL!

Otherwise they would NOT be libTURDS.

Right?

LOL!

Filthy libTURD SCUM.

LOL!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-15   13:41:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Mad Dog, lucysmom, Mininggold (#59)

Lib do you see the absurdity of these two godless heathens talking about Christianity, (especially Christian theology), in general; and ANY Christian in the specific?

Of course.

They have a strong anti-Christian, pro-socialist Leftist agenda. We know that. Many at this forum do, don't they?

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-15   13:45:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Liberator (#62)

They have a strong anti-Christian, pro-socialist Leftist agenda. We know that. Many at this forum do, don't they?

It's not much of a stretch to imagine that if Jesus came back today and preached the message of the New Testament, right-wing Christians would accuse him of being "anti-Christian, pro-socialist".

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-15   14:00:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: lucysmom (#67) (Edited)

It's not much of a stretch to imagine that if Jesus came back today and preached the message of the New Testament, right-wing Christians would accuse him of being "anti-Christian, pro-socialist".

IF HE came back today, He would be recognized...IMMEDIATELY.

Btw - exhorting one to "help thy neighbor" does NOT make Jesus Christ a "socialist."

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-15   14:05:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Liberator (#69)

Btw - exhorting one to "help thy neightbor" does NOT make Jesus Christ a "socialist."

Jesus said "love thy neighbor" and care for the poor, not "help thy neightbor".

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-15   14:09:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: lucysmom (#74) (Edited)

Jesus said "love thy neighbor" and care for the poor, not "help thy neightbor".

He didn't say force your neighbor to care for the poor, nor steal from them to do so either.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-15   14:16:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: hondo68, lucysmom (#79) (Edited)

He didn't say force your neighbor to care for the poor, nor steal from them to do so either.

It is the duty of the king to help his people and provide in times of hardship.

Since in a democracy we are the sovereigns it falls on us to perform this duty collectively.

(Genesis 41:33-36) Joseph gives his advice to Pharaoh:

“Now therefore, let Pharaoh select a discerning and wise man, and set him over the land of Egypt. Let Pharaoh do this, and let him appoint officers over the land, to collect one-fifth of the produce of the land of Egypt in the seven plentiful years. And let them gather all the food of those good years that are coming, and store up grain under the authority of Pharaoh, and let them keep food in the cities. Then that food shall be as a reserve for the land for the seven years of famine which shall be in the land of Egypt, that the land may not perish during the famine.”

One of the arguments when Bush came to office was that the Clinton surplus should not be held in a lock box but returned to the people in direct violation of God's order to Joseph that the govt collect taxes and hold them in reserve against future hardship. GOP=Antichrists. God = Big Govt advocating socialist.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-15   14:23:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Godwinson (#83)

Let Pharaoh do this, and let him appoint officers over the land, to collect one-fifth of the produce of the land of Egypt in the seven plentiful years. And let them gather all the food of those good years that are coming, and store up grain under the authority of Pharaoh, and let them keep food in the cities. Then that food shall be as a reserve for the land for the seven years of famine which shall be in the land of Egypt, that the land may not perish during the famine.”

That is in direct opposition to the conservative ethic - ie: if you ain't smart enough (thrifty enough, etc.) to store yer own grain, I've got a shotgun here to make sure youse or yer communist government ain't gettin none of mine.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-15   18:58:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#87. To: lucysgibberinglibTURDidiotmommy (#86) (Edited)

That is in direct opposition to the conservative ethic - ie: if you ain't smart enough (thrifty enough, etc.) to store yer own grain, I've got a shotgun here to make sure youse or yer communist government ain't gettin none of mine.

LOL!

You miserable, bitter, LYING piece of shit, libTURD whore loser.

The so called tea partee is for complete CONSTITUTIONAL government, which means you gibbering libTURD whore that we support ALL Americans in their own life decisions.

You see you gibbering libTURD whore, WE AMERICANS don't need any gooberment between us and those who we care about.

YOU stinking libTURD whore.

THIS NATION IS OUR PEOPLE AND TRADITIONS, not any feral gooberment.

You gibbering libTURD wannabe tyrant skank.

YOU don't even want to give YOUR OWN MONEY YOU MISERABLE BITCH.

YOU WANT TO FORCE other AMERICANS to spend what they have earned to support those who will not support themselves.

YOU libTURDS are the most callous and uncaring people on the face of this earth.

YOU libTURD TRASH want to make ALL AMERICANS slaves of the feral gooberment.

YOU libTURD SCUM want to ENSLAVE all future generations of AMERICANS to an all powerful, un-CONSTITUTIONAL gooberment.

YOU libTURD FILTH ARE AMERICA'S and ALL AMERICAN'S BLOOD ENEMIES.

YOU BRAIN DEAD, MEWLING libTURDS ARE THE PROBLEM WITH AMERICA.

IT'S YOUR SEASON FOR TREASON BITCH.

Spit ...

The ONLY thing between AMERICA and TYRANNY right now is the so called tea partee, you simpering, mewling, libTURD whore.

And .... bitch .... WE aren't going to do anything but get STRONGER.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE THE TEA PARTEE IS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

"And the horse YOU rode in on BITCH."

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-15 19:24:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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