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Title: Tea Party’s Heyday May Be Coming To An End, Say Political Experts
Source: THE HILL
URL Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/news/17 ... o-an-end-say-political-experts
Published: Aug 14, 2011
Author: Alexander Bolton
Post Date: 2011-08-14 18:56:30 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 7864
Comments: 15

The reign of the Tea Party may be coming to an end in Washington, according to academic political experts who say polls show a backlash against the conservative movement.

Two national polls released this month by CNN and The New York Times in conjunction with CBS News showed the Tea Party’s unfavorable rating at an all-time high.

Political scientists say the data shows a backlash of independent voters against conservative lawmakers who have taken a hard line against bipartisan compromise in Washington.

These experts say independent voters who make up the swing bloc of the electorate typically pay less attention to politics than staunch Republican and Democratic voters.

The contentious debate in Congress over the debt limit gave the Tea Party new prominence to many of these casual observers of Washington.

And many independents were not happy with what they saw over the last several weeks: a contentious debate in which conservatives threatened to force a national default; the failure of President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to reach a grand bargain to reduce the deficit; a sharp rebuke of the political system by Standard & Poor’s causing havoc on Wall Street.

They note Obama’s public approval also dipped but observe public opinion of the Tea Party has fallen faster.

The CNN poll showed the Tea Party’s favorable/unfavorable rating grew from 37 percent in October of 2010 to 51 percent in August 2011. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: Brian S, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0) (Edited)

The Tea Party is getting hit from both liberal wings of the D&R party. The neo- con libtards want to redefine it as elite Republican, and the neo-lib teabaggers want to destroy it with ridicule.

To survive the TP needs to throw both parties under the bus, and become a conservative and pro-American political party, IMO. America is in desperate need of non liberal, second political party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

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Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-14   19:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#1) (Edited)

become a conservative and pro-American political party, IMO.

It won't work unless you get rid of single member, winner take all Congressional districts or implement an instant runoff voting system.

Instant runoff voting:

If we had this, third parties would flourish.


This small group of terrorists [Tea Party members] have made it impossible to spend any money. -- Mike Doyle (D-PA)

jwpegler  posted on  2011-08-14   19:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

Two national polls released this month by CNN and The New York Times in conjunction with CBS News showed the Tea Party’s unfavorable rating at an all-time high.

It's going to take one major Republican to speak out against the damage the Tea Party is doing to the GOP and the US. Romney will likely be forced to distance himself, but it's not going to help. If perhaps Perry schools the party on the idiocy of arguing against raising the debt ceiling, perhaps people would listen.

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go65  posted on  2011-08-14   19:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#1)

To survive the TP needs to throw both parties under the bus, and become a conservative and pro-American political party, IMO. America is in desperate need of non liberal, second political party

to survive the Tea Party needs to go back to promoting fiscal sanity instead of fiscal lunacy.

It's fiscal sanity to argue for reducing the deficit and reigning in spending. It's fiscal lunacy to turn down $4 trillion in deficit reduction because of a zero-tolerance policy toward tax increases while arguing that a failure to raise the debt ceiling wouldn't be a bad thing.

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go65  posted on  2011-08-14   19:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

The reign of the Tea Party may be coming to an end in Washington, according to academic political experts...

Huh?? The Tea Party actually "reigned"?? WOW.

Did I miss all the action on the gallows already?

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-14   20:02:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#4)

It's fiscal lunacy to turn down $4 trillion in deficit reduction because of a zero-tolerance policy toward tax increases while arguing that a failure to raise the debt ceiling wouldn't be a bad thing.

Lol, WTH are you trying to say?

Fugetaboutit. We are NOT raising the debt ceiling just so fedgov drones cash in and cash out. It wouldn't be a "bad thing"; It'd be disaster-on-top-of-disaster. The hemorrhaging must stop soon rather than later - and it's already MUCH later.

We are NOT raising the debt ceiling again or in perpetuity just so US taxpayers and wealth-producing private sector can cover the asses of corrupt DC thieves and whores of lobbyists. THIS is lunacy.

We are NOT raising the debt ceiling just so military contractor stocks can resume upward.

We are NOT raising the debt ceiling just so military spending can continue to escalate and wars fought over bullsh*t.

We are NOT raising the debt ceiling just so Fedgov drones can receive platinum-card bennies and retire in luxury as the private sector does with less.

We are NOT raising the debt ceiling just so the Parasite Class can live on the dole in perpetuity at the taxpayer expense.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-14   20:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#3)

It's going to take one major Republican to speak out against the damage the Tea Party is doing to the GOP...

Just one, eh?

Who would you prefer? Snowe? Collins? Lady Lindsey?

And didn't Juan NcInsane already just do that?

Sanity reigns. Tea Party sanity may have just saved this dopey country.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-14   20:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Brian S (#0)

Tea Party’s Heyday May Be Coming To An End, Say Political Experts

LOL! Political experts! They sound more like delusional political opportunists. Those demented fools have to realize the desire by rational folk to be free of petty tyrants is not going away.

eskimo  posted on  2011-08-14   20:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#2)

It won't work unless you get rid of single member, winner take all Congressional districts or implement an instant runoff voting system.

Very true, the primary and election systems need reform. The game is rigged to keep the two wings of the D&R party in power. It's damn near impossible to get on the ballot in CA, and I'm sure most other places.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

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Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-14   21:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#4)

It's fiscal lunacy to turn down $4 trillion in deficit reduction because of a zero-tolerance policy toward tax increases

Did you fail your course in DC-ism 101?

Here, let me help. Tax increases occur IMMEDIATELY. Spending cuts (which really aren't cuts, but "reductions" in proposed spending "increses", NEVER COME.

Let me repeat for emphasis: Tax increases occur IMMEDIATELY. Spending cuts (which really aren't cuts, but "reductions" in proposed spending "increses", NEVER COME.

IF we were dealing with HONORABLE people, WE COULD MAKE AGREEMENTS TO CUT SPENDING AND EXPECT THEM TO BE HONORED.

We cannot - because we're dealing with statist DEMS and statist REPS.

What is so difficult for you to understand about that?

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Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-08-14   21:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#10)

Here, let me help. Tax increases occur IMMEDIATELY. Spending cuts (which really aren't cuts, but "reductions" in proposed spending "increses", NEVER COME.

I'm not sure where you are getting your info. Obama didn't propose any immediate tax increases, he proposed increases starting in 2013 (and only on the top tax bracket).

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go65  posted on  2011-08-14   22:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65 (#11)

he proposed increases starting in 2013

Yeah after the election.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-08-14   22:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S (#0)

Consider the SOURCES of these Polls:

1. CNN, LEFT (CNN founder Ted Turner has a strong probability of being one of the mysterious "Progressives" responsible for the erecting to the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES!!!)

2. New York Times, LEFT

3. CBS, LEFT

No, there is nothing to see here, move on.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2011-08-15   1:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Brian S, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#0)

Two national polls released this month by CNN and The New York Times in conjunction with CBS News....

ROFLMAO!

The Gay Old Lady and the Communist News Network are not exactly what you would call unbiased.

They ARE what you could call desperate,though. The Tea Party scares the hell out of them.

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sneakypete  posted on  2011-08-15   8:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: jwpegler (#2)

If we had this, third parties would flourish.

We need to get a Second Party before we start worrying about a Third Party.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-08-15   8:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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