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Title: Rick Who? Michele Bachmann, Ron Paul get most votes at Iowa straw poll (Romney a distant 7th)
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The Houston Chronicle
URL Source: http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/201 ... most-votes-at-iowa-straw-poll/
Published: Aug 13, 2011
Author: Richard Dunham
Post Date: 2011-08-13 19:38:55 by Hondo68
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Keywords: Bachmann first with 4,823, Ron Paul second 4,671 votes, signers of Pro-Life Pledge
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Texas Gov. Rick Perry got the national attention but Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and Texas Rep. Ron Paul got more votes today at the Iowa straw poll. Paul finished a close second at the quadrennial fundraiser in Ames. The Lake Jackson congressman received 4,671 votes. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, an Iowa native, finished first with 4,823. Perry received 718 write-in votes, placing him sixth, just ahead of fellow no-show Mitt Romney. The straw poll, which was overshadowed by Perry's competing event in South Carolina, traditionally serves as a test of campaign organizations and a winnower of presidential also-rans. Remember would-be presidents Orrin Hatch, Dan Quayle, Elizabeth Dole and Tommy Thompson? Their White House runs ended soon after this same straw poll. Among the candidates on the razor's edge after the straw poll were Rep. Tim Pawlenty, whose campaign was well-organized but finished far back in third place, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, whose struggling candidacy garnered just 69 votes, and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, whose campaign did not have enough cash on hand to rent a tent in Ames. Perry didn't participate in the Iowa event, but an independent group of Perry supporters (Americans for Rick Perry) stumped the state for a week in search of write-in votes in Ames. In the end, the straw poll ended up a test of enthusiasm, and the candidates with the most enthusiastic support were Paul and Bachmann. Another important note: The top finishers all were signers of a pledge to outlaw abortion and the three non-signers (Romney, Cain and Huntsman) finished at the back of the pack. “It is no surprise that the top four vote getters of the Iowa Straw Poll are also signers of our Pro-Life Presidential Leadership Pledge,” said Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser. “Pro-life politics have long played a crucial role in Republican primaries and this election cycle will be no different." Perry, as a new candidate, has not yet signed the pledge. But there was considerable griping about the absentee candidate in Ames. "Today was a bad choice of days" for the Texan to declare his intentions, Rep. Steve King, a prominent conservative leader in Iowa, told NBC's Chuck Todd. "He has to work harder," said King, "and it'll be harder for him to get traction because of the timing today." Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, invited Perry to seek the votes of Hawkeye State voters. "The more, the merrier," he said. Here are the final returns: Bachmann, 4823 Paul, 4671 Pawlenty, 2293 Santorum, 1657 Cain, 1456 Perry, 718 Romney, 567 Gingrich, 385 Huntsman, 69 McCotter, 35
Ron Paul addresses the crowd in Ames. (Charles Dharapak/Associated Press)
Michele Bachmann turned out her backers in Ames. Rick Perry may want to convince some of them to switch. (Charles Dharapak/Associated Press)
Rep. Steve King (right) is close to Michele Bachmann. Rick Perry, not so much. (Nati Harnik/Associated Press)
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#12. To: jwpegler (#11)
I really like Bachmann. I would vote for her if she won the GOP nomination. I like Bachmann, too. I was somewhat jolted with THIS ANSWER SHE GAVE at the debate the other night, however. I'll be charitable and chalk it up to the heebie-jeebies. I HOPE she knows better . . . Politics makes strange bedfellows. _________________________________________________________________________ Bush was not a leader. Bush was an employee. So it was easy for Reagan to select him in 1980. Bush demonstrated his leaderless status when he was President. Bachmann is a leader with an independent mind. No one will select her as VP.
Well . . . maybe it'll be a moot point, and she'll be the nominee. (nah . . . not in the GOP as it presently stands. oh well . . .
__________________________________________________________________________________________ That's what they say they fear, which means that they don't. Do you know anything about tactics? Apparently not. Seriously. Why would the incumbent tell us who he fears the most? He wouldn't. He'd lie instead. Or maybe he'd tell the truth knowing you'd figure he was lying.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
He fears the one that can garner all of the "supposed" Independent voters.....
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
Dude, no one likes you. ;o)
No offense to anyone meant, but to me Bachmann comes off as stupid as Palin. They both rarely have anything of substance to say, just endless platitudes and fluff. And when they do have something of substance to say, they're wrong.
They both rarely have anything of substance to say, just endless platitudes and fluff. And when they do have something of substance to say, they're wrong. The media certainly have portrayed them as stupid. I don't believe either of them are. In Palin's case, she's somewhat a victim of the McClown campaign which - if you think about it - is a double-edged sword. If it hadn't been for McClown, we'd have never even heard of Palin. But, due to their micro-managing her interviews (plus, why the HELL would any conservative even go on with Katie Couric or the jackass with the glasses who's name escapes me), she DID come off as - shall we say - unprepared. Palin will never be a GOP candidate for POTUS, but she's done okay. So - I don't happen to think she's stupid In the case of Bachmann, if she IS stupid (as declared by the media) she's in good company. Anyone - in the eyes of the media - who doesn't toe the statist line - is stupid. Reagan was stupid. I was taken aback by her answer the other evening as to Obama care being even against State constitutions. I hope she just wasn't clear in her answer, and is not as ignorant of state's rights as that answer shows.
__________________________________________________________________________________________ In the case of Bachmann, if she IS stupid (as declared by the media) she's in good company. Anyone - in the eyes of the media - who doesn't toe the statist line - is stupid. Reagan was stupid. They are both admitted treasonous Zionists, so should be hung at next light along with one fifth of congress.
However, I wouldn't be opposed to reducing our Foreign aid substantially. __________________________________________________________________________________________ It will be interesting to see how she reacts when this question is posed to her at a future debate: "Mrs. Bachmann - you've consistently stated your opposition to raising the debt ceiling. Yet earlier in 2011 you voted for the Paul Ryan budget framework that increases the debt ceiling by $6 trillion by 2019. How do you correlate your statements that you will never vote to raise the debt ceiling with the fact that you already voted to raise it this year?"
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I'm thinking more like 4/5ths.
The one fifth that's in Israel partaking of their 'hospitality' this summer should make a good start.
It likely is against many State constitutions. Also an argument could be made under the 10th amendment that that right (to chose your own health care) is reserved to the people, and not to either the Feds or the State. "[Amendment X] The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
the affordable care act in no way restricts someones right to choose their own health care. It's an insurance program, not a health care program.
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Fine, the right be free from being forced to buy things by the gov, is also passed directly to the people, and not to either the Fed or State. So there!
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
. Are you F ing INSANE you ignorant libTURD whore? You really are a stoopid libTURD tool. Obammy care REQUIRES AMERICAN CITIZENS PURCHASE INSURANCE by UN- CONSTITUTIONAL fiat of the FERAL GOOBERMENT. It doesn't matter what you libTURD SCUM call it bitch, it's UN-CONSTITUTIONAL ON IT'S FACE. That YOU and the rest of YOUR mewling libTURD herd is OK with that means NOTHING. Get the fuck out of OUR country you disgusting wannabe tyrant bitch, and take the rest of your gibbering libTURD scum with you. Scum ...
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Good call, tpaw was fatally wounded and dropped out.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
LOL! A beautiful sentiment.
. Thank you. Ah ... well, ... I ... / ... WE can dream can't we? ;^)
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
A serious question asked in a debate? LOL! It's always interesting to see how politicians answer tough questions (on the rare occasions they are asked): "Senator Obama - you've never run any sort of business or been in any kind of executive position, yet the office of POTUS is the highest executive office in the land. What gives you the IDEA that you are qualified for this office?"
__________________________________________________________________________________________ So going to Israel is a hanging offense? You're a tough one
__________________________________________________________________________________________ You're a tough one Only if the trips are paid for by you AIPACers.
Okay, against my better judgement, I'll ask: What is an AIPACer? and how can I be one if I don't know what it is?
__________________________________________________________________________________________ Obammy care REQUIRES AMERICAN CITIZENS PURCHASE INSURANCE by UN- CONSTITUTIONAL fiat of the FERAL GOOBERMENT. It doesn't matter what you libTURD SCUM call it bitch, it's UN-CONSTITUTIONAL ON IT'S FACE. You are 100% right, Dawg. I don't understand the intellectual gymnastics of the acrobatic Left. Good Lord. And don't forget - the Kenyan has applied unequal and unconstitutionally granted thousands of select waivers of his own unconstitutional bill.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
So, supporting the state of Israel (the very definition of Zionism) is now a hanging offense in your Moonbat People's Republic?? Interesting...er...I mean INSANE. Yet, 0bama in your opinion has NOT committed "Treason" in the Gunrunner Scam? Where is your own consistency? Look - I actually personally find this number of Congressmen in Israel simultaneously to be more than suspect. I find it repugnant. Their constuency is NOT Israel, it's America.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
LOL - good one.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Yep, it sure should be.
If that's the case, what a waste of hair. Can't we just run Cousin Itt?? Seriously, The Fix is in. UNLESS the RNC globalist-elites running the show get trumped by the Tea Party-ers. Bachmann is not going to be anyone's VP selection, but Nicky Haley could be. Just watch. Interesting call, but she's still too green.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Didn't 0bama or Holder commit treason when they violated their oath of office and purposely sabotaged America by selling guns to Mexican warlords?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
As opposed to what should have been the 0bama/Ayers ticket? OR, Marx/Lenin ticket? Hey - maybe after 0bama wimps out on "Hopey-Changey, 2012," maybe there can be a Hillary/Bawney Frank ticket.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
TWO shocking statement in one! 1) Do you admit 0bama is a catastrophic disaster to America?? 2) You would actually vote for Romney over 0bama? Why?? 3) If Hitlety runs, are you automatically onboard?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Yeah, he actually would. If there were an anti-America scorecard, 0bama would have scored a hole-in-one on EVERY issue. 0bama was THE most liberal/Leftist Senator in history when he was voted Kenyan in Chief. Romney at least could be counted on to add several drops of sanity into the bedpan.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
lol
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Not offended, but now you're just acting...stupidly ;-) I will gladly trade IQ points for principle and an iota of honesty. They both rarely have anything of substance to say, just endless platitudes and fluff. I agree, but then they just could lie their azzes off like everyone else. I'd trust them and their common sense before anyone else in this Pageantry-of-Bullsh*t. And when they do have something of substance to say, they're wrong. But those wrong statement aren't "wrong" in the context of warping the truth to score ideological points, or to deceive.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
I agree 100%. The media NEEDS to create that false portrayal. Bachmann is very bright. In Palin's case, she's somewhat a victim of the McClown campaign which - if you think about it - is a double-edged sword. If it hadn't been for McClown, we'd have never even heard of Palin. But, due to their micro-managing her interviews (plus, why the HELL would any conservative even go on with Katie Couric or the jackass with the glasses who's name escapes me), she DID come off as - shall we say - unprepared. WELL stated. Palin will never be a GOP candidate for POTUS, but she's done okay. Never say never. I'd have never thought an America-hating Commie Leftist named "0bama" could have had a shot in hell of winning. I was taken aback by her answer the other evening as to Obama care being even against State constitutions. I hope she just wasn't clear in her answer, and is not as ignorant of state's rights as that answer shows. She may well be ignorant about this as well as other subjects - as all of us are. But for ONLY conservatives/Pubbies, this always seem to be an issue. Remember when much was made of Dubya's ignorance regarding obscure African republics and their respective pronunciation? But tell me - who is more ignorant than 0bama?? About nearly EVERYTHING. The guy is an absolute frackin' moron, yet he NEVER gets dinged for his idiocy. Without a script or fixed interviews, it's comically clear how dopey and ignorant the man 0bama is.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Obammy care REQUIRES AMERICAN CITIZENS PURCHASE INSURANCE by UN- CONSTITUTIONAL fiat of the FERAL GOOBERMENT. It doesn't matter what you libTURD SCUM call it bitch, it's UN-CONSTITUTIONAL ON IT'S FACE. L: You are 100% right, Dawg. I don't understand the intellectual gymnastics of the acrobatic Left. Good Lord. And don't forget - the Kenyan has applied unequal and unconstitutionally granted thousands of select waivers of his own unconstitutional bill. It's EASY to understand the libTURDS, they HATE life and EVERYBODY who seems to have any independence in them. They are the most miserable people on the face of this world. They WANT, all that they ever do is WANT. AND they won't be "happy" until EVERYBODY on earth is miserable and they are in charge. So ... What I'm saying is this ... "libTURDISM is a terminal mental disease."
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
They are the most miserable people on the face of this world. They WANT, all that they ever do is WANT. AND they won't be "happy" until EVERYBODY on earth is miserable and they are in charge. So ... What I'm saying is this ... "libTURDISM is a terminal mental disease." What you said, Dawg. LOL! nailed.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
I have mad dog on filter. This is another reminder as to why.
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I have mad dog on filter. This is another reminder as to why. Yep, it reminds us all what a cowardly libTURD whore YOU are goat. SUCKS to be YOU eh whore? LOL!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
LOL! Why should today be different?
She is too independent to be anyone's VP.
Neither Perry or Romney would select her.
At this point you can say that. But at this point in '79, who would have thought the 1980 ticket would be Reagan/Bush. (They appeared to be mortal enemies at that stage.) South Carolina Governor Nicky Haley has a chance to be VP as does Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal. They are both great people but are also team players.
I don't know much about Nicki Haley (except she would bring great SEX appeal to the ticket.) Jindal seemed to handle himself well during the oil spill.
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#13. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#12)
But at this point in '79, who would have thought the 1980 ticket would be Reagan/Bush
This small group of terrorists [Tea Party members] have made it impossible to spend any money. -- Mike Doyle (D-PA)
#14. To: jwpegler (#13)
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#15. To: jwpegler (#6)
The White House fears a Romney nomination much more than Perry
#16. To: jwpegler (#6)
Seriously. Why would the incumbent tell us who he fears the most? He wouldn't
#17. To: Brian S (#7)
I know they should fear Romney because people like me
#18. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#12)
(Edited)
I like Bachmann, too. I was somewhat jolted with THIS ANSWER SHE GAVE
#19. To: We The People (#18)
No offense to anyone meant, but to me Bachmann comes off as stupid as Palin.
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#20. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#19)
Palin will never be a GOP candidate for POTUS, but she's done okay. So - I don't happen to think she's stupid
#21. To: mininggold (#20)
They are both admitted treasonous Zionists,
Could you do me the favor of giving your definition of Zionist? so should be hung at next light along with one fifth of congress.
Now THERE'S a thought! I like it! (I'm sure we probably disagree with exactly which fifth should be hung, tho. Too bad.)
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#22. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#19)
In the case of Bachmann, if she IS stupid (as declared by the media) she's in good company. Anyone - in the eyes of the media - who doesn't toe the statist line - is stupid. Reagan was stupid.
#23. To: mininggold (#20)
along with one fifth of congress.
#24. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#21)
Now THERE'S a thought! I like it! (I'm sure we probably disagree with exactly which fifth should be hung, tho. Too bad.)
#25. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#19)
I was taken aback by her answer the other evening as to Obama care being even against State constitutions
IMO, it's far from certain that her answer was wrong.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#26. To: hondo68 (#25)
Also an argument could be made under the 10th amendment that that right (to chose your own health care) is reserved to the people, and not to either the Feds or the State.
#27. To: go65, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#26)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#28. To: go65, hondo68 (#26)
the affordable care act in no way restricts someones right to choose their own health care. It's an insurance program, not a health care program.
#29. To: jwpegler (#4)
The actual message from Iowa was: Tim who?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#30. To: Mad Dog (#28)
Get the fuck out of OUR country you disgusting wannabe tyrant bitch, and take the rest of your gibbering libTURD scum with you.
#31. To: eskimo (#30)
#32. To: go65 (#22)
It will be interesting to see how she reacts when this question is posed to her at a future debate:
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#33. To: mininggold (#24)
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#34. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#33)
So going to Israel is a hanging offense?
#35. To: mininggold (#34)
Only if the trips are paid for by you AIPACers.
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#36. To: Mad Dog, go65 (#28)
You really are a stoopid libTURD tool.
#37. To: mininggold (#20)
(Edited)
They are both admitted treasonous Zionists, so should be hung at next light along with one fifth of congress.
#38. To: jwpegler (#4)
The actual message from Iowa was: Tim who?
#39. To: Liberator (#37)
So, supporting the state of Israel (the very definition of Zionism) is now a hanging offense in your Moonbat People's Republic?? Interesting...er...I mean INSANE.
#40. To: jwpegler (#4)
The nomination is going to come down to Romney versus Perry.
#41. To: mininggold (#39)
#42. To: Brian S (#3)
Might just as well go 'whole hog' and make it a Palin/Bachmann or Bachmann/Palin ticket.
#43. To: Brian S (#7)
I know they should fear Romney because people like me, that support the President, could actually consider voting for Mitch if he(Obama) doesn't pull his head out of his ass.
#44. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#9)
(Edited)
Romney wouldn't be much different than Obama.
#45. To: We The People (#17)
#46. To: We The People (#18)
No offense to anyone meant, but to me Bachmann comes off as stupid as Palin.
#47. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#19)
The media certainly have portrayed them as stupid. I don't believe either of them are.
#48. To: Liberator, goat65 (#36)
Mad Dog: You really are a stoopid libTURD tool.
#49. To: Mad Dog, go65 (#48)
It's EASY to understand the libTURDS, they HATE life and EVERYBODY who seems to have any independence in them.
#50. To: Liberator (#49)
What you said, Dawg.
#51. To: Liberator, goat65 (#50)
What you said, Dawg.
#52. To: Liberator (#46)
Not offended, but now you're just acting...stupidly ;-)
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