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Title: Romney’s Run-in on Social Security
Source: Factcheck
URL Source: http://factcheck.org/2011/08/romneys-run-in-on-social-security/
Published: Aug 12, 2011
Author: Factcheck
Post Date: 2011-08-12 12:14:53 by go65
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Views: 2464
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Mitt Romney gave a misleading answer to a question about Social Security during a feisty exchange with a heckler in Iowa. He said payroll taxes take 15.3 percent "out of your earnings," but only the self-employed pay that rate. All other workers pay half of that, with the other half being paid for by the employer.

The Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts governor also said that the payroll tax rate would have to go up to 44 percent to pay for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, if no changes are made in the programs. (He mistakenly added Medicaid to the list of programs funded by payroll taxes.) But what he didn't say is that the payroll tax wouldn't reach 44 percent until 2075, and even then it is largely driven by Medicare — not Social Security, which was the subject of the question. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office put out a report this month saying that Social Security payroll taxes would have to be raised from a total of 12.4 percent to 14 percent in order to keep Social Security in balance for the next 75 years.

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#1. To: go65 (#0)

The Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts governor also said that the payroll tax rate would have to go up to 44 percent to pay for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, if no changes are made in the programs.

There's an easy fix for that. Remove the earnings cap on SS contributions.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-08-12   12:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#0)

It's clear that something needs to be done about Social Security — a fact that was inherent in the question posed to Romney. As we have written before, Social Security for the first time last year took in less money in revenues than it paid out in benefits, and that will be the case from now on. Unless there are changes, the program's trust fund reserves — $2.7 trillion in Treasury securities — will all be redeemed and exhausted by 2036, the Social Security and Medicare Boards of Trustees has reported. After that, the Social Security "tax income would be sufficient to pay only about three-quarters of scheduled benefits through 2085," the board said.

Here's the elephant in the room:

How do you redeem the $2.7 trillion in Treasury Securities in the "trust fund"?

This is government debt. It's money that the government owes and doesn't have the resources to pay back.

Yes, Medicare is the larger problem in the long run. Social Security is a problem too.

The answer is to means test it. It is completely unfair to force struggling families to pay for wealthy retires living the life of luxury on some golf course in a lavish retirement community.

If you have a pension plan or investment income that puts you in the top 25% of income earners, your social security payments should be cut off.


This small group of terrorists [Tea Party members] have made it impossible to spend any money. -- Mike Doyle (D-PA)

jwpegler  posted on  2011-08-12   15:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#0)

Mitt Romney gave a misleading answer to a question about Social Security during a feisty exchange with a heckler in Iowa. He said payroll taxes take 15.3 percent "out of your earnings," but only the self-employed pay that rate. All other workers pay half of that, with the other half being paid for by the employer.

Typical bullshit statement, goober.

Romney- much as I despise Mr. Blow-Dried- was precisely correct.

The SS payroll deductions are "split" between employee and employer, so that the employees don't notice that their taxes are actually double what they see on their pay stubs.

Just one more way you nanny-state socialists have to hide the truth from normal Americans.

ESAD.

The two sides in America are people who work for a living versus people who vote for their living.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-12   16:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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