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When called upon to put up or shut up, you shut up and run back to mommy. Try not to fall into the deep end of the entropy pool while high on MD5 hash. How about a copy of 8-bit ASCII 291? Or a screenshot of your magic IPA 95.154.230.291?
Document your claim or shut the hell up Admiral harrowup, FR, 10/24/2003
Back it up with the facts or retract. Admiral harrowup, FR, 10/24/2003
Cite your facts, retract or shut up. Admiral harrowup, FR, 10/24/2003
Try googling the word "defamation", then wade through the hits.
When you try to intimidate folks you need to be more than loud...
You made the claim:
... there are literally thousands of defamation suits that result favorably for plaintiffs - including against the press, and many of those for statements of opinion.
... 79 posted on 10/24/2003 11:01 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
Back it up with the facts or retract.
If you don't you can be charged with intimidation
That's why I want all your aliases. Think about it. Once we get to discovery you'll have to pay for the search time...and we wouldn't want Opey and Habsey to work that off in the Pokey...
Face it, fella. You are a blowhard who keeps going just one more step over the line.
288 posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 2:11:59 PM by harrowup (So perfect I'm naturally humble)
I DON"T FEEL LIKE BUIDING YOUR LINKS. Paste and smear yourself.
http://www.whiteo.com/practice.html - a law firm with verdicts
http://www.jackscamp.com/news/Case%20Summ.%20-%20VA%20S.C.PDF - Virginia damages and ratings sweeps
1. SKINNER V. TRIDENT MEDICAL CENTER, LLC. The dispute in this Berkeley County case arose when an office manager at the medical facility where the plaintiff used to work accused him of stealing equipment and sabotaging the office. Once those allegations spread in the community, the plaintiff found it impossible to find work as a doctor. The jury awarded the doctor $30 million on his defamation claim - including $10 million in punitive damages. The plaintiff also pressed a conversion claim over a patient list the hospital failed to return to him. The jury awarded $250,000 on that claim. (Defamation/Conversion). - South Carolina
http://library.lp.findlaw.com/articles/file/00471/004989/title/subject/topic/government%20law_contracts/filename/governmentlaw_3_8 - Maryland business defamation 7 figure award
http://www-cs-education.stanford.edu/classes/cs201/Projects/defamation-and-the-internet/sections/liability/part3.html - Defamation and the internet
None of them were Chancellor Palpatine. Maybe he is just trying to forewarn other freepers here.
No. He is trying to intimidate others with gobbleygook and claiming thousands of defamation cases have been won by plaintiffs many involving 'opinion' when just the opposite is true.
He's all mouth on a lard.
345 posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 2:35:28 PM by harrowup (So perfect I'm naturally humble)
Tell me my lie, oh great one, how I lied. You wanted some links to plaintiffs cases. i gave you some, but don't feel like cranking out links for you all die. And you never answered my question about the discovery threat. What, pray tell, are you wanting to discover on me, and what are you suing me for? I'm all ears.
Foremost, where a media defendant is involved, a statement on matters of public concern must be provable as false before liability can be assessed, Philadelphia Newspapers, Inc. v. Hepps, 475 U. S. 767, thus ensuring full constitutional protection for a statement of opinion having no provably false factual connotation. Next, statements that cannot reasonably be interpreted as stating actual facts about an individual are protected, see, e.g., Greenbelt Cooperative Publishing Assn., Inc. v. Bresler, 398 U. S. 6, thus assuring that public debate will not suffer for lack of "imaginative expression" or the "rhetorical hyperbole" which has traditionally added much to the discourse of this Nation. The reference to "opinion" in dictum in Gertz v. Robert Welch, Inc., 418 U. S. 323, 418 U. S. 339-340, was not intended to create a wholesale defamation exemption for "opinion." Read in context, the Gertz dictum is merely a reiteration of Justice Holmes' "marketplace of ideas" concept, see Abrams v. United States, 250 U. S. 616, 250 U. S. 630. Simply couching a statement -- "Jones is a liar" -- in terms of opinion -- "In my opinion, Jones is a liar" -- does not dispel the factual implications contained in the statement. Pp. 497 U. S. 11-21.
2. A reasonable factfinder could conclude that the statements in the Diadiun column imply an assertion that Milkovich perjured himself in a judicial proceeding. The article did not use the sort of loose, figurative, or hyperbolic language that would negate the impression that Diadiun was seriously maintaining Milkovich committed perjury. Nor does the article's general tenor negate this impression. In addition, the connotation that Milkovich committed perjury is sufficiently factual that it is susceptible of being proved true or false by comparing, inter alia, his testimony before the OHSAA board with his subsequent testimony before the trial court. Pp. 497 U. S. 21-22.
An opinion, susceptible of being proved true or false, is sufficient to maintain a libel action.
In my opinion, Chancellor Palpatine is an attorney.
#3, your task was to revisit your problems with ASCII and HTML associations. Don't knock yourself out. I've work to do.
I have no problem with non-existent ASCII and HTML "associations".
You have a problem with computer terminology to the point where you lapse into incoherent baby talk.
ASCII (American Standard Code for Information Interchange), or more specifically the high bit ASCII Table is a standard using 8 bits (one byte) of computer memory to create a table of 256 different outcomes or characters. The value range that may be contained in 8 bits, or 1 byte of memory is 0-255 decimal. The original low bit ASCII Table only allowed 128 different outcomes as one bit was used as a parity bit for error checking.
HTML (HyperText Markup Language) is a computer language.
IPA (Internet Protocol Address), version 4 (IPAv4) is an address expressed in dot decimal notation, e.g., 255.255.255.255. Each 3-digit block, or octet, is the decimal expression of 8 bits of binary memory.
It is the physical impossibility of 8 binary bits to express a decimal value greater than 255 which limits the high bit ASCII Table to 256 outcomes or characters. It is the precise same physical limitation that limits any dot decimal IPA octet to a value ranging from 0-255. You, however, claimed that 95.154.230.291 is valid.
Your baby talk about an imagined association between ASCII and HTML compares to an association between a language and an alphabet.
We all know you are a blithering idiot. There is no need to reinforce the point.
As for your "work," get back to enjoying your queso de cabrito. Perhaps you have more experience with queso de cabrito and could explain how you make that stuff.
"Still waiting for your narrative on how contradictions prove collusion."
Bullshit question.
So we agree. Your assertions regarding Gatlin and others were bullshit.
Good, that's a start, #3. Now I'd like to move on but you're still stuck on being out to lunch on your ASCII v HTML association.
Ask bucky for help; he claims extensive ability and practice in shutting down the internet.
I only suggest bucky because you appear to be just as dumb now as you were then and you won't be intimidated by his demonstrated paucity of brilliance.
Then again, we could explore your OCD treatment. What meds are you taking now? It seems one of them has screwed up your ability to organize a concise thought without multiple attempts; such anxiety is totally unnecessary; there is an edit feature here.
Just remember that every time you c/p some irrelevant discussion out of context and bluster some half-baked conclusion you are forced to accept the fact that you're just turning mincemeat back into raw sausage which is far less attractive.
So harrowup has a very long history of being an internet bully who stalks people around the internet, making threats and causing disturbances for entire forums.
ah- that explains a great deal.
Is he paid to do this, or just a totally miserable human being - who thrives on attacking people?
What is the deal with this cat?
Does he only have a hardon for people who have been trashed by Jim Rob, or is this is general thing aimed at all internet users?
I have no problem with non-existent ASCII and HTML "associations".
You have a problem with computer terminology to the point where you lapse into incoherent baby talk.
ASCII (American Standard Code for Information Interchange), or more specifically the high bit ASCII Table is a standard using 8 bits (one byte) of computer memory to create a table of 256 different outcomes or characters. The value range that may be contained in 8 bits, or 1 byte of memory is 0-255 decimal. The original low bit ASCII Table only allowed 128 different outcomes as one bit was used as a parity bit for error checking.
HTML (HyperText Markup Language) is a computer language.
IPA (Internet Protocol Address), version 4 (IPAv4) is an address expressed in dot decimal notation, e.g., 255.255.255.255. Each 3-digit block, or octet, is the decimal expression of 8 bits of binary memory.
It is the physical impossibility of 8 binary bits to express a decimal value greater than 255 which limits the high bit ASCII Table to 256 outcomes or characters. It is the precise same physical limitation that limits any dot decimal IPA octet to a value ranging from 0-255. You, however, claimed that 95.154.230.291 is valid.
Your baby talk about an imagined association between ASCII and HTML compares to an association between a language and an alphabet.
We all know you are a blithering idiot. There is no need to reinforce the point.
As for your "work," get back to enjoying your queso de cabrito. Perhaps you have more experience with queso de cabrito and could explain how you make that stuff.
When called upon to put up or shut up, you shut up and run back to mommy. Try not to fall into the deep end of the entropy pool while high on MD5 hash. How about a copy of 8-bit ASCII 291? Or a screenshot of your magic IPA 95.154.230.291?
I don't follow your links; however, you seem to have missed my questions in your haste to c/p before nap time.
"Still waiting for your narrative on how contradictions prove collusion."
#3 writes: Bullshit question.
Hup writes: So we agree. Your assertions regarding Gatlin and others were bullshit.
[Another win for the good guys.]
Good, that's a start, #3. Now I'd like to move on but you're still stuck on being out to lunch on your ASCII v HTML association.
Ask bucky for help; he claims extensive ability and practice in shutting down the internet.
I only suggest bucky because you appear to be just as dumb now as you were then and you won't be intimidated by his demonstrated paucity of brilliance.
Then again, we could explore your OCD treatment. What meds are you taking now? It seems one of them has screwed up your ability to organize a concise thought without multiple attempts; such anxiety is totally unnecessary; there is an edit feature here.
Just remember that every time you c/p some irrelevant discussion out of context and bluster some half-baked conclusion you are forced to accept the fact that you're just turning mincemeat back into raw sausage which is far less attractive.
Ask bucky for help; he claims extensive ability and practice in shutting down the internet.
I said that? Perhaps you can refresh my memory with a link or two, if you don't mind. I know you have a busy schedule slurping your soup after waiting in line at the generous local, publick soup kitchen but it is the least you can do, pal.
Does he only have a hardon for people who have been trashed by Jim Rob, or is this is general thing aimed at all internet users?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Yes, about a decade's worth, including his time as a flying monkey for FR, defending Jim and John Rob. At FR he trashed everybody not on FR. For example, he called Goldi unstable. Trolls such as harrowup are trained not to actually take substantive positions. On this thread, with all his bluster, he has not actually made one substantive comment, or documented any part of his diversionary nonsense.
Look at what harrowup, unsycophant, demedici and jjbrouwer are doing here. They are the cyber equvilent of feces hurling monkeys at the zoo. Zero content and even less respect for the site and its members. Scroll through the thread and see that they are simply trying to "hijack" the threads through repetitive, childish rants and ad hominem attack. All of it is designed to bring attention to them and take attention away from any serious discussion. Harrowup has repeatedly bragged of his ability to do this.
I do not post at LP nor do I read the site. I believe Neil McIver is every bit as sincere as Jim Robinson but has associated with some very unstable characters like Goldi-lox. You seem to know more about LP than anyone you've accused of being there. Who are you there? unamused?
955 posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 6:29:05 PM by harrowup (So perfect I'm naturally humble) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 932 | View Replies]
This is the sort of flying monkey feces flinging he engaged in:
Don't think he is the physical type; that's what he has Goldi-lox for...McIver reminds me of kids who have spent too much time playing D & D.
harrowup posted on 2002-07-21 21:33:17 ET ReplyTrace
Did you ever picture Neil as a jack-booted Nazi at a Hitler youth march? Or that he had Goldi for the jackbooted Nazi physical type stuff?
harrowup has a decade long history of being internet trash who will whore himself out to say and do anything to shower his monkey flinging crap to disrupt any serious discussion of some chosen topics. When he moved from FR to LP, the only real change was what street corner he was working.
I said that? Perhaps you can refresh my memory with a link or two, if you don't mind.
The admiral does not do links and quotes. That's only what he demands of everyone else, even about things they never said. For his own nonsense, he always has an excuse or diversion.
I have no problem with non-existent ASCII and HTML "associations".
You have a problem with computer terminology to the point where you lapse into incoherent baby talk.
ASCII (American Standard Code for Information Interchange), or more specifically the high bit ASCII Table is a standard using 8 bits (one byte) of computer memory to create a table of 256 different outcomes or characters. The value range that may be contained in 8 bits, or 1 byte of memory is 0-255 decimal. The original low bit ASCII Table only allowed 128 different outcomes as one bit was used as a parity bit for error checking.
HTML (HyperText Markup Language) is a computer language.
IPA (Internet Protocol Address), version 4 (IPAv4) is an address expressed in dot decimal notation, e.g., 255.255.255.255. Each 3-digit block, or octet, is the decimal expression of 8 bits of binary memory.
It is the physical impossibility of 8 binary bits to express a decimal value greater than 255 which limits the high bit ASCII Table to 256 outcomes or characters. It is the precise same physical limitation that limits any dot decimal IPA octet to a value ranging from 0-255. You, however, claimed that 95.154.230.291 is valid.
Your baby talk about an imagined association between ASCII and HTML compares to an association between a language and an alphabet.
We all know you are a blithering idiot. There is no need to reinforce the point. You have documented that you do not know what you are talking about and were just trying to B.S. your way through.
As for your "work," get back to enjoying your queso de cabrito. Perhaps you have more experience with queso de cabrito and could explain how you make that stuff.
I do not post at LP nor do I read the site. I believe Neil McIver is every bit as sincere as Jim Robinson but has associated with some very unstable characters like Goldi-lox. You seem to know more about LP than anyone you've accused of being there. Who are you there? unamused?
955 posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 6:29:05 PM by harrowup (So perfect I'm naturally humble)
I have a question for the GREAT&POWERFUL harrowup on the above comment:
If you didn't post or read LP at that time, how on Earth could you make such claims about the managers?
What a waste of a life. :( I am so sad for him. He is nothing more than a big grudge match - and because he uses so many different screen names, he is attacking people that have no idea of the origins of his obsession for them.
THAT is his legacy on this Earth? Cyber harasser/cyber stalker/extraordinaire. With a huge hardon- He freeped, the anti-freepers. wow- how sad.
And it all started with a scam of a website - that was designed to peel money from conservatives. Bunch of carnies.
#393. To: nolu chan, buckeroo, etta alla da udderless (#390)
As for your "work," get back to enjoying your queso de cabrito. Perhaps you have more experience with queso de cabrito and could explain how you make that stuff.****
"I have no problem with non-existent ASCII and HTML "associations"."
Same problem you always have when all you know is what comes up in your Google searches; you never read far enough to understand let alone appreciate the nuance.
Okay, so we've concluded once again that you are incompetent vis-a-vis the intricacies of the internet and dismantled your absurd expose on the 'yukon affair'.
We've managed to drag you out into the open and you continue to show to one and all that you are still the most relentless bore whatever name you use, from mojoke to #3 (while all agree your dung beetle moniker most closely described your personality disorder.
So, now that you've managed to be reduced to childish ad hominems and fruitless demands all that is left is for you to enjoy your mincemeat...you made it, all by yourself.
****And, you really need to check your dictionary but our goats are raised for biomedical research and their milk, semen and other renewable markers are painlessly used by scientists in several promising areas of concern to the NIH, a couple of universities and biopharm corporations. But for me they are still just a hobby.
Now, bucky, I presume you missed the part where Goldi and I have never been close from the gitgo and there were long periods when I didn't post, which of course further demolishes #3's idiotic conclusions which merely followed your leads anyway.
I presume you missed the part where Goldi and I have never been close
I really don't fucking care about your relationship with Sally. What is important is that nc brought up an older post that obviously shows the subterfuge that YOU, yourself present at all times and as old as that post was, it still establishes the same pattern of conduct today.
The truth is, all you little fucking jerk-offs, need to do is NOT make these forums a place for a pissing contest in the first place. I think you are envious of nc because of his consistent manner of presentation and genuine wit displaying critical thinking.
You eat his time up. He really has some good ideas to share, too.
Just as a point of fact, sometime in 2007-2008, I posted an article about 0bama's birth certificate, as at the time, it seemed strange to me that the US would permit a candidate to run for office without having the barest of presidential valid credentials as documented in the US Constitution. NC, hopped on that thread and made some excellent points and as far as I am concerned stand today as the hallmarck of reasoning about a silly issue. The guy doesn't waste his time; he researches an article or viewpoint until he is satisfied with a realistic and reasonable viewpoint that can be not only well presented but also contains ample data beyond his opinion, such as a link or just a quote for later research and validation by ANYONE.
He is impressive to me. He also doesn't run around making stuff up as some posters do ..... SUCH AS YOU, and then later can not even support those same flimsy ideas.
and there were long periods when I didn't post
I believe that. I believe you become so flustered with your own cobweb of lies that the self embarrassment and humiliation from others renders you incapable to make a post for a long time.
Okay, so we've concluded once again that you are incompetent vis-a-vis the intricacies of the internet and dismantled your absurd expose on the 'yukon affair'.
Who is we? Do you have a turd in your pocket? The collected knowledge of the gay canaries on display.
THE HARROWUP CHALLENGE: post a working link to any dot-decimal IPA address containing an octet value greater than 255.
Anyone who states that a dot decimal format IPA containing "291" could be valid displays that he doesn't know what he is talking about.
The subject IPA caused much consternation on an LP cluster foxtrot. Demonstration of yukon experts at work:
#907. To: ALL, yukon, Gatlin, 22Rifle, Internet sleuths (#906)
I'm posting the IP of the person who hacked Yukon's posting file.
95.154.230.253 password hacker (hacked yukon)
95.154.230.291
Maybe someone can find him/her. Isn't there some legal precident for filing a lawsuit for doing that? Remember someone hacked Palin's email...and I think the guy went to jail, or something bad happened to him.
IPv4 addresses are canonically represented in dot-decimal notation, which consists of four decimal numbers, each ranging from 0 to 255, separated by dots, e.g., 172.16.254.1. Each part represents a group of 8 bits (octet) of the address.
The IPA 95.154.230.291 is in classic IPv4 dot-decimal notation. It cannot be an IPv6 number.
IPv4 utilizes 4 octets. IPv6, a newer system, uses 8 octets. It is not expressed in dot-decimal but in colon-hexadecimal. IPv6 has an extra 4 octets, but any eight bits in memory cannot store more than 0-255. In hexadecimal, the numbers are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F. The example IPv6 format address at the Wikipedia link is 2001:0DB8:AC10:FE01:0000:0000:0000:0000. Omitting the 4 zero groups, it can be expressed as 2001:0DB8:AC10:FE01::
NOTE: 291 is not an IPv6 value. Those come in groups of four (4) hex numbers, expressed in colon-hex notation. Leading zero values are included.
Most idiots, with Harrowup being a notable exception, can recognize 95.154.230.291 as an invalid IPv4 expression, containing an impossible octet value of 291. It is impossible to store the value 291 in 8 bits binary.
As one may observe, An IPv6 IPA is expressed in hexadecimal 4-digit numbers. It does not resemble IPv4 the three-digit dot-decimal expression of IPv4 which is, indeed, limited to 255 in each of its octets.
Computer memory is an ON/OFF condition. It always represents one of two states, a BINARY condition. A byte of data, 8 bits, can store 28, or 256 combinations. Starting with Zero, the highest number possible is 255.
Every machine on the Internet has a unique identifying number, called an IP Address. The IP stands for Internet Protocol, which is the language that computers use to communicate over the Internet. A protocol is the pre-defined way that someone who wants to use a service talks with that service. The "someone" could be a person, but more often it is a computer program like a Web browser.
A typical IP address looks like this:
216.27.61.137
To make it easier for us humans to remember, IP addresses are normally expressed in decimal format as a dotted decimal number like the one above. But computers communicate in binary form. Look at the same IP address in binary:
11011000.00011011.00111101.10001001
The four numbers in an IP address are called octets, because they each have eight positions when viewed in binary form. If you add all the positions together, you get 32, which is why IP addresses are considered 32-bit numbers. Since each of the eight positions can have two different states (1 or zero), the total number of possible combinations per octet is 28 or 256. So each octet can contain any value between zero and 255. Combine the four octets and you get 232 or a possible 4,294,967,296 unique values!
Out of the almost 4.3 billion possible combinations, certain values are restricted from use as typical IP addresses. For example, the IP address 0.0.0.0 is reserved for the default network and the address 255.255.255.255 is used for broadcasts.
The octets serve a purpose other than simply separating the numbers. They are used to create classes of IP addresses that can be assigned to a particular business, government or other entity based on size and need. The octets are split into two sections: Net and Host. The Net section always contains the first octet. It is used to identify the network that a computer belongs to. Host (sometimes referred to as Node) identifies the actual computer on the network. The Host section always contains the last octet. There are five IP classes plus certain special addresses. You can learn more about IP classes at What is an IP address?.
#399. To: calcon, buckeroo, nolu chan, Gatlin (#398)
If you have actually read any of #3 shit-bug's pointless c/p you will have discovered something known since about the summer of 1998. I enjoy pirating and laughter and despise bullies, bigots and zealots of any stripe.
Successful pirating takes at least three dedicated partners which is why in the last few years I've been downgraded to spoofing, a less clearly defined distractor simply because I've no partners.
Gatlin is of the old military school of duty honor and country and demands proof beyond any doubt that something is true or false. His ethical standards are something to be admired, but that has never stopped me from using my own military experience especially that gained in the five sided circle jerk compound of crushing opponents quickly and without concern for manners.
Gatlin chose to concentrate on yukon-LP; I preferred to declare that the real crime was here at LF where the phony yukon-LF was created by two of your closest associates previously named.
Frankly, I don't know if Gatlin agrees or not. Doesn't matter. He and I agree to disagree on many matters of state. The one thing we do agree on is that bullies, bigots, liars and frauds have no immunity from being flayed and spayed.
And that, my friend, is the end of #3's dubious conspiracy theory. Deflated, dejected and disgraced along with all of his new found and old smelling associates.
You can choose to remain spinning nowhere in that silly little cage and suffer the inevitable consequence and/or you can just not bother to demonstrate your incompetence by parroting pure unadulterated BS from the likes of mochajoke, #3 shit bug, dung beetle or for that matter, buckeroo's ghost.
#3: I have made no challenge. Never need to. You do all the damage to yourself every time you get tied up in your soiled shorts.
I worked there in the early 90s as a personnel policy analyst for about two years. On 9/11 our secretary/administrative assistant, Lisa Young, was killed in the Pentagon strike.
despise bullies, bigots and zealots of any stripe.
some serious bullshit admiral, let me clarify:
1. "I enjoy pirating and laughter and despise bullies, bigots and zealots of any stripe". you and your posse of gay geezers are the biggest bullies on the internet--you just extremely bad at it.
2."Gatlin is of the old military school of duty honor and country"--gatlin is a liar, cheat and a fraud as evidenced by his "tater" alias.
3."my own military experience especially that gained in the five sided circle jerk" - - i have no doubt that you were the pivot man on many circle jerks.
4."we do agree on is that bullies, bigots, liars and frauds have no immunity from being flayed and spayed" -- you were shown to be gutless cowards and bullies of the worst kind. That's why on every forum you're laughed at.
All and all you and gatlin/tater are the two poorest excuses for human beings I've ever encounter. You and your gay geezer posse make the harpies at FR look like saints.
In closing, let me just say EAT SHIT AND DIE, you miserable, old, sorry excuse for a man.
Notice how harrowup twisted his own words into an entirely new idea. Yet, that was one of the longest posts harrowup created on the thread and that means he took some time to write his post; nope, he was very clear about his intention and that was a method to create an illusion of his own Kloaughn act.
I suppose, based on the meaning of your own monicker that you are looking for news and opinions based on the news that might shed a new idea or understanding about the problems of the world us. And, here you are on a thread that has little to do with any of that detail. Do you want to know why we are pissed at "harrowup?" Because he doesn't add to a thread's understanding; indeed, he is contrary EVERYWHERE he goes by subtracting from any good ideas and turns the discussion into a pissing contest.
And, as you caught him; he shall quickly modify his earlier post in such a way as to show his real intention. The problem with his tendency to adjust his own posts when called on the carpet is that he does it all the time OR he skips/pretends/wishes and clicks his little red slippers as Dorothy did wanting to go home in Kansas (caricature borrowed from Wizard of Oz acclaim.)
harrowup is so full of hot aire about himself and the way he discusses ANYTHING, that he is nothing more than a Kloaughn playtoy for many of us because he bounces back with a new edition of his own ideas, just as did to you. I enjoy watching him sweat it out, too. I wager he has a browser add-on for pinging the LF channel with a 5 second frequency waiting for a post to him as he is anal retentive about this stuff.