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Doesn't this post by Gatlin indicate that he'd already been privy to the access 'yukon's' handle at the time of the "outing"?
Also, ask yourself when people were guessing two different passwords with yukon? There can be no valid time. The sole source of password information was the account holder of yukon. If the guessing occurred any time before the 4/10 claim, the guesser should have learned before the 4/10 claim that there were two different passwords. If the guesses were any time after the 4/1 claim, Gatlin had no source for his conflicting claim, other than his own personal knowledge. If he knew the password(s), any guessing would have to be a B.S. story.
I believe the likely explanation is that the 4/1 claim was false, and the revision of reality was not effectively communcated to the team of yukons. One of them, unaware on 4/10 that he had a lie to perpetuate, screwed the pooch by truthfully claiming the same password was used on both sites. Because of the 4/1 claim, the mythical yukon account holder could not have been the source of that information. That indicates a shared password community account.
But there is a question that stands out in contrast that I want to ask both Gatlin and harrowup. Why do you two folks HATE posters that don't agree with you?
I don't believe they feel any hate about it. The other posters are irrelevant except as targets; there is no emotion involved. With a community handle it is possible to have a team of operators punching a clock and working shifts, especially if a government sponsors it. Whether a sponsored group, or a group of individuals disrupting for sport (like a cat with a toy mouse), they couldn't care less about the other posters. They work to push buttons to bring anger out from other people. They sort of strive to make the target so mad he doesn't think straight.
The term, "hate" is not used loosely. The Israelis have already deemed me a "HATER." That was through their well-orchestrated websites when I ran March for Liberty, back in both 1999 and 2000.
OOPPSS, I forgot to mention the ADL HATED me and others.
The other posters are irrelevant except as targets; there is no emotion involved. With a community handle it is possible to have a team of operators punching a clock and working shifts, especially if a government sponsors it. Whether a sponsored group, or a group of individuals disrupting for sport (like a cat with a toy mouse), they couldn't care less about the other posters. They work to push buttons to bring anger out from other people. They sort of strive to make the target so mad he doesn't think straight.
Well, some of us actually fight back; it isn't necessarily on chit-chat channels, either. And, MANY REMEMBER!
The term, "hate" is not used loosely. The Israelis have already deemed me a "HATER." ...
Well, some of us actually fight back; it isn't necessarily on chit-chat channels, either. And, MANY REMEMBER!
You are correct. If you effectively fight back, they develop a real mean streak. Informative threads, such as this, tend to tick them off.
In my experience, I have not had an issue with Israelis generally, but with Zionist wingnuts. For them everyone is anti-semitic unless they express unquestioning support for everything the Israeli government wants. I feel U.S. foreign policy should favor the best interests of the U.S.
I feel U.S. foreign policy should favor the best interests of the U.S.
Well, how about that! Further proof that you aren't aloof to the issues around us [not that you are].
Wouldn't it be almost a pristine condition if American government created policies that centered upon AMERICANS as opposed to every Tom and Dick & Harry about the world? The idea is too cutting edge for many, while I see the rising of blood on the streets for and about the atrocious international policies of American government.
In my experience, I have not had an issue with Israelis generally, but with Zionist wingnuts.
I tend to agree. Yet, the Zionists control America; it is undeniable as America devotes precious resources to serve Israel while not defending our own US borders.
Zionists control almost every facet of America today, too: from American banking, to patting down nuns in US airports, to pretending the drug war can be fought with a pile of idiots that spread the sales of arms into Mexico.
Zionists wrote the US Patriot Act; Zionists created the GWBush Iraqi War; Zionists made BILLIONS off electronic scanners in US airports.
Yeah, I tend to agree. They are rather benign to most of us.
Your series of repetitive rants almost reminds me of the time you raved on all night long to an empty yahoo anti-anti-freeper site.
The only difference I can determine, since I've not read either these rants or the ones on yahoo, is that the moon phase is not in your quarter and the time of day indicates you don't even go out during the day now.
You're in luck here though. With two exceptions, the lunatics here don't need the moon phase to influence their ignorance, bigotry and foul abusive conduct.
#328. To: calcon, buckeroo, etta alla da udders (#327)
thanks for bringing NC to LF admiral, you called him out
No Lettuce for Chew!
Sour Grapes Only!
#3 aka Stevie Dung Beetle & his Maggot Band.
[:~)]
Careful what you wish for boys; you know you've been made fools of before and this won't be the last time, but seriously, mojo the shit bug aka dung beetle etta alla da udders insists on total loyalty from his fans (3) and you must never interfere in his rants.
calcon: thanks for bringing NC to LF admiral, you called him out
the Admiral: Careful what you wish for boys; you know you've been made fools of before and this won't be the last time, but seriously, mojo the shit bug aka dung beetle etta alla da udders insists on total loyalty from his fans (3) and you must never interfere in his rants.
calcon is correct, you egged nc on from the top of the thread. Lets briefly review:
#3. To: calcon (#2)
i sure hope he starts posting over here, i've been following his posts for years, entertaining and well researched.
You would. His ridiculous conspiracy theories are only slightly more insane than Orly.
Charlie Chan's #3 Idiot son, no luck chuck.
harrowup posted on 2011-08-11 18:11:33 ET
You begged for a showdown. And throughout the thread, you have so little to add that most everyone has written you off into obscurity. You can't defend yourself.
You have until labor day to get off the wheel.
All, I see is yourself playing around after you decide to quick suckling your goat utters and with animated graphics, no less. Are you setting up LF for another "nuclear option?" Oh boy, this is going to be fun!
all the admiral can do is run his mouth and make idle threats.
everyone knows he's just a toothless blowhard.
Some old LP history from 2002. My first post on LP was on 03/11/2005. I wasn't Steve Gilbert/mojo then either.
Here are few highlights.
[428, Aligyrl] Good gawd, they've called in the king of disdimble! You know they're in dire straits when har-de-har-har-harrowup gets paged.
[437, mojo] Er, I'm not an attorney. (You might try Admiral/doctor/pilot/CEO/MBA and Yale trained lawyer, Harrowup.)
[535, harrowup] As far as John seeking the retraction of Mojo's libelous remarks I believe he is due the courtesy you have extended. But, beyond that, it is time for John to put up or shut up about libel. We have all tried to be helpful and defend the right of FR to operate without the interference of the afconistan spoilers, but to keep going from site to site and leveling the same charges against Mojo without ever actually taking the son of a bitch to the cleaners is getting really annoying.
[648, Birds Of A Feather]
Here's a précis of the action:
BobJ, John Robinson, and Reagan Girl of Free Republic attempt by threats to endanger the survival of LibertyPost.
These are primarily faux-legal threats, but the key point is that prominent names at Free Republic readily stoop to this level of attempted censorship. Not content that they heavily censor and chill their own forum, they actually have the temerity (and stupidity) to barge into the sites to which they have driven their own BEST writers in an attempt to censor THEM TOO!
Goldi-Lox and Neil McIver parry the Orwellian/neo- Bolshevik thrust from the Free Republic goons deftly indeed. In brilliant, measured prose these two champions of open debate unsword the Censors neatly.
A spritely, saucy crew of LibertyPosters rise to the alarum to aid in the defense of Open Debate. Eloquent assistance is proferred by LOTF, Mojo, 2Fat4FAB, RuxtonTowers, Abundy, t2 gal, Twodees, OWK, Sentry Over America, GalFromTheBay, christine, francisandbeans, CharltonHest, IAvet, SamSpade, and others.
A few odd types who seem to be FR groupies appear to bark, mewl, bay, and snort odd phrases that impress at FR but don't fly in an adult atmosphere like LibertyPost. I'll let someone more in the know give a tally of who these folks were. Names that seemed to appear (please correct me if I'm wrong here) were harrowup, Landshark, and oldvike.
[667, francisandbeans] You are either drunk or clueless. ... I'm opting for drunk because I beleive I saw you post something coherent once.
harrowup, posting drunk since 2002! Clueless since the day he was born.
Third string time!! Time for Unsycophant to lead in her merry pack of JJ- level trolls, for a night of namecalling and mudflinging and general discussion degeneration... all designed to drown us out, and distract you, the lurker, from hearing any more about FR.
Good gawd, they've called in the king of disdimble! You know they're in dire straits when har-de- har-har-harrowup gets paged.
aligyrl posted on 2002-07-15 21:07:31 ET ReplyTrace
Now that Landshark and Harrowup have finally showed up, will the conversation switch to those always entertaining topics such as admirals, King Air and the Isle of Mann?
Inquiring minds want to know.
SamSpade posted on 2002-07-15 22:31:04 ET ReplyTrace
We never planned to undermine Free Republic. But their actions have made this site much more visible, and now I don't know how big it will eventually get.
Whatever your politics, I wish you well. I have no intention of trashing your site with ad hominem retorts to the beta-gammas from afconistan. There isn't a single member there who should be trusted with any information at any time.
That said, I haven't a clue why BobJ came here looking for a fight; he never clears anything up even though I believe he means well.
As far as John seeking the retraction of Mojo's libelous remarks I believe he is due the courtesy you have extended.
But, beyond that, it is time for John to put up or shut up about libel. We have all tried to be helpful and defend the right of FR to operate without the interference of the afconistan spoilers, but to keep going from site to site and leveling the same charges against Mojo without ever actually taking the son of a bitch to the cleaners is getting really annoying.
My advice is worth the cost of this stamp but I would suggest you kick us all out and get on with meaningful discussions.
That said, goodbye and goodluck.
harrowup posted on 2002-07-15 23:13:01 ET ReplyTrace
#647. To: unsycophant, RuxtonTowers, Mojo, jjbrouwer, All (#0)
Okay folks, listen up.
First, I want to thank those that have voiced support for Liberty Post though this thread which can only be described as ugly. Please, please hang in there. We're 5-weeks, 2-days old at this point and barely have the rules, administrative tools, formal warning procedures etc in place to properly deal with what's going on. Thank you very much for your patience as we develop more tools and procedures to deal with this type of situation.
Second, I don't have time for a full discourse tonight, but I'll revisit this matter in more detail when I have time. I was out from about 4 PM till 11 PM this past evening, and have reviewed this thread. Some comments were made on this thread that were brought to my attention as being a violation of the few posting rules we have here. I have reviewed the thread in as much detail as feasible, and agree some comments made were overreaching.
Here is a list of the offenses made on this thread, the authoring screen name, comment number, and offense description, listed in comment number order:
RuxtonTowers 57 Overreaching and meritless insult Mojo 255 Disclosure of personal information (Resume) unsycophant 338 Overreaching vulgarity unsycophant 374 Overreaching vulgarity jjbrouwer 418 Overreaching vulgarity unsycophant 499 Overreaching vulgarity Mojo 562 Overreaching vulgarity
From the FAQ:
The goal of Liberty Post is to facilitate meaningful, formated communication among participants. This means allowing the expression of ideas from one person to many. Liberty Post will live up to its name by allowing the responsible sharing of views by each and every person. However (and you knew this was coming, right?), "meaningful, formated communication" is not possible in a free-for-all arena. We do insist that all posts be made responsibly. This means all posts should be coherent meaningful, that you will refrain from posting material which is solely intended to offend others, and avoid excessive use of profanity....
As manager of Liberty Post, it is my opinion that the comments pulled for "Overreaching Vulgarity" were intended NOT as a means of ommunicating a meaningful, debatable idea, but were instead intended to be offensive to the recipient and/or other readers of this forum.
unsycophant, I believe all of your offenses related to postings originating outside of Liberty Post. You were emailed previously regarding another thread where a similar practice was employed. However, I have not received any response from you. I take that to mean you have no additional thoughts to offer in support of this practice. I find that the vulgar content you copied to Liberty Post has no debate value to Liberty Post. If you wish to point out that vulgarities were made and discuss their implications, you may do so. I have no problem with that. However, copying them verbatim is obstructive to this forum. You are warned.
Mojo, I find your post of another's resume, while it did not contain any contact information and was made to support a point, was nontheless disclosure of personal identifying information. If the information is available on another web site, feel free to post a link.
I trust the remaining single vulgarity offenses need no additional explanation.
Also stricken were quoted responses to the offending posts. I do ask, please, that if you see such questionable material posted, that you avoid quoting in your response, as it saves me the trouble of striking them as well.
Obviously there is no shortage of name calling taking place on this thread. I am granting massive leeway in terms of insults, and only drawing the line when the message obstructs debate. I believe the cited vulgarity does obstruct the debate forum.
Again, I don't have time for a full discourse tonight, but please note that it is my estimation that the striken comments do not subtract in the least from the worthy content listed in this thread (However much there may actually be).
Again, I thank those that continue to support Liberty Post. I am determined to see this site through.
Neil McIver Manager, Liberty Post
Neil McIver posted on 2002-07-16 5:11:35 ET ReplyTrace
#648. To: Goldi-Lox,Neil McIver,Sentry Over America,BobJ,John Robinson,GalFromTheBay,christine,LOTF,Mojo,2Fat4FAB,RuxtonTowers,Abundy,t2 gal,Twodees,OWK,francisandbeans,CharltonHest,IAvet,SamSpade,ANV,oldvike,ThimbleRigger,harrowup,Landshark,Hmmmmm,unsycophant (#0)
It's the middle of the night, before dawn on Tuesday, and I've just finished reading and scanning all 642 posts to this amazing thread. You have to take in the broad sweep of what transpires over the length of the thread to appreciate how important it is.
Here's a précis of the action:
BobJ, John Robinson, and Reagan Girl of Free Republic attempt by threats to endanger the survival of LibertyPost.
These are primarily faux-legal threats, but the key point is that prominent names at Free Republic readily stoop to this level of attempted censorship. Not content that they heavily censor and chill their own forum, they actually have the temerity (and stupidity) to barge into the sites to which they have driven their own BEST writers in an attempt to censor THEM TOO!
Goldi-Lox and Neil McIver parry the Orwellian/neo- Bolshevik thrust from the Free Republic goons deftly indeed. In brilliant, measured prose these two champions of open debate unsword the Censors neatly.
A spritely, saucy crew of LibertyPosters rise to the alarum to aid in the defense of Open Debate. Eloquent assistance is proferred by LOTF, Mojo, 2Fat4FAB, RuxtonTowers, Abundy, t2 gal, Twodees, OWK, Sentry Over America, GalFromTheBay, christine, francisandbeans, CharltonHest, IAvet, SamSpade, and others.
A few odd types who seem to be FR groupies appear to bark, mewl, bay, and snort odd phrases that impress at FR but don't fly in an adult atmosphere like LibertyPost. I'll let someone more in the know give a tally of who these folks were. Names that seemed to appear (please correct me if I'm wrong here) were harrowup, Landshark, and oldvike.
I copied out a few comments that shaped the thrust & parry. Here are several:
See how this works Goldi? I told you to get rid of them. [referring to getting rid of posters that BobJ would like to see LibertyPost censor!] BobJ #60 -----------------
We do not censor posters on THIS site. We allow people to fight it out, figuring the best "man" will win, and the truth will eventually be revealed.....It should be apparent to you by now, that we operate quite differently than Free Republic. That is by design. Goldi-Lox #88 ----------------
...and this was supposed to accomplish what? [BobJ is referring to the establishment of Forums where those banned and chilled by Free Republic can post in freedom] BobJ #105 ----------------
To accomplish what??? I can't believe you said that! To give them the opportunity to have a forum, and open debate! Many of those banned were the BEST of Free Republic. It has suffered greatly by their loss. Articles are not posted, or are yanked. Only one side of an issue is examined. That's NOT free speech. That's what the major media does...selective censorship.
I missed the flame wars. I missed the heated discussions where I got involved and learned a lot. It is dull there now. I was getting bored. I rarely posted in the last year...I had nothing to say, since nothing peaked my interest. Here, nearly every comment makes you want to get involved. THAT's what we've accomplished. Goldi-Lox #116 ----------------------------------
Let me give all the definition of a hypocrite:
a hypocrite is one who pretends to be what he is not.
It is a fact, not libel, that Jim Robinson is a hypocrite. That can be proven with the banning of members that are documented and with the actual posts that were made. Members have been banned for expressing conservative thought, and since Free Republic is supposed to be a conservative site, that makes Jim Robinson a hypocrite (just one example). Sentry Over America #217 ---------------------
224. To: John Robinson (#209) Could you provide us with an analysis of the reasons for banishment of posters? It's clear you have it in a database. Anyone with a whit of knowledge could put that into a Pareto diagram so we all could see the top 5 reasons. I suspect that many of them have nothing to do with any of the published rules of the site. GalFromTheBay posted on 2002-07-15 10:58:43 ------------------------
Quite frankly Ive missed many of the now former FR posters like Mojo. The forum was always lively and fun when they were there and their absence left a hole [a BIG, BIG hole, my comment-Birds Of A Feather, one of the banees who was banned not for being a bad writed but for being too damned good] and Im not just talking about the flame wars. Lively debate on issues is a good thing even if you dont agree with the opinion of the poster [Forgive me for having to insert the comment: Duhhh! ]. ReaganGirl posted on 2002-07-15 13:06:57 -----------------------
324. To: ReaganGirl (#282) "If I'm not welcomed to post here then you should remove my posting privileges." ReaganGirl
WE do not remove postings, or posting privileges arbitrarily. You are too accustomed to the operations at another forum. Should you wish to have them removed, we will do so upon your request. The only other way to lose posting privileges is to break our rules, which are clearly laid out on the home page. So far, no one has. I made no comment to you. Why are you directing this comment at me? Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-07-15 17:57:26 ------------------------------
All in all, this has been a marvelous thread. It bares naked what's at stake on the Internet. A CENSORED world, or a FREE world.
Birds Of A Feather posted on 2002-07-16 5:27:37 ET
Work on your definitions and relax junior. You won't get a rise out of me here; I am too much in awe of all of you libs who love the constitution and liberty more than I could ever aspire...probably because I have to work too hard to pay the taxes that I don't claim are unconstitutional.
harrowup posted on 2002-07-16 9:28:55 ET ReplyTrace
The management here came accross a situation and put up a reminder and a bit of a disclaimer as to protect the liability of the forum and its participants.
I'm opting for drunk because I beleive I saw you post something coherent once.
francisandbeans posted on 2002-07-16 9:44:21 ET ReplyTrace
actually agreeing that she is a foul-mouthed old lady.
...it was ever so that the hamsters of afSS and afconistan would drop their stink bombs at UTA and then return to their restricted sewer and call the 'trolls' obscene obsession with vulgarity mochajoke proof that trolls were trailer trash.
Neil and Francis have bought into A Rat or similar rodent's view that Eschoir and Mojo are good draws, especially if John & Bob show up...we know what happened to Reunion after that.
harrowup posted on 2002-07-16 10:04:19 ET ReplyTrace
We could argue about this forever, but you are far too anal to be an enjoyable interlude.
1. Liberty Post is officially an anti-freeper site.
2. Nobody cares.
Blah blah blah, the great Harrowup is the one who decides what is pro and what is anti freeper. Blather
Seeing as you post here, and you are trying to get a log on for Liberty Forum, in your logic, you are an anti-freeper too.
Nobody cares...got that right, nobody gives a damn about whatever you do on FR, its your little gulag..enjoy living over there. I'll take a site that still remembers what the "Free" used to mean at FR.
This site is great, it is obviously scaring the PTB at FR, and a little competition is a GOOD thing. (flying monkeys and all)
Central Scrutiniser posted on 2002-07-16 10:32:56 ET ReplyTrace
Many of those banned were the BEST of Free Republic. It has suffered greatly by their loss. Articles are not posted, or are yanked. Only one side of an issue is examined. That's NOT free speech. That's what the major media does...selective censorship.
I missed the flame wars. I missed the heated discussions where I got involved and learned a lot. It is dull there now. I was getting bored. I rarely posted in the last year...I had nothing to say, since nothing peaked my interest. Here, nearly every comment makes you want to get involved. THAT's what we've accomplished. Goldi-Lox #116
To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under the sun. A time to be born and a time to die; a time to plant and a time to pluck up that which is planted; a time to kill and a time to heal ... a time to weep and a time to laugh; a time to mourn and a time to dance ... a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing; a time to lose and a time to seek; a time to rend and a time to sew; a time to keep silent and a time to speak; a time to love and a time to hate; a time for war and a time for peace.
ecclesiastes 3:1-8
Very sorry to hear that Fred.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
mochajoke, dung-beetle, shit bug, queen of the maggots
You are making a bigger fool of yourself than even your past idiocy would suggest, democrat.
The fact that you think you're in a name calling contest... well, let's just say you've brought a knife to a gun fight and you're too stupid to know you've been shot in the brain, are face down on the sidewalk and flailing wildly at the air.
It's funny to watch you make a fool of yourself, but there's an air of sadness to it all too.
As previously stated it only proves your [nolu chan] failure to ever get anything right even when you have plagiarized the result.
I took a wee bit of time to review some of our communication exchanges from LP from 2003 and on in time; I am fairely sure that we have had similar exchanges on FR before I got the ZOT; I shall review those too.
But, you were a BUSHBOT MAXIMOSIS! Man, you are for GWBUSH; you are for illegal immigrants invading this country; no wonder you got along with Jim Robinson with the exception of your snide remarcks and vicious attacks.
You backed the Iraqi War effort in 2003! I shall (as I have time) produce some of our exchanges. You are a HOOT! This is going to be a fun day!
Too BASIC. You sound as if you have been trying to smoke MD5 hash. Why don't you show how your stream of unconsciousness is siphoned from the entropy pool?
You could always go off on a quest and come back and show us all a screen shot of your magic IPA 95.154.230.291.
But, you were a BUSHBOT MAXIMOSIS! Man, you are for GWBUSH; you are for illegal immigrants invading this country; no wonder you got along with Jim Robinson with the exception of your snide remarcks and vicious attacks.
And as an FR shill, he joined flying monkeys spewing nonsense about Neil. Far from a jackbooted thug, he would seem to be a Libertarian. It seems the only argument this screwup has is that others are part of some psycho cult.
You're a piece of work, sours. You delete unsycophant's post quoting aligyrl's vulgarity...and you find accusations of doing a monica were not specific enough...
You have allowed so much BS from the Afer crowd there isn't a chance in hell you're going to survive as anything but a site for Cal to have a soap-box and the afers a place to get some face time with her...now that she isn't a cow.
harrowup posted on 2002-07-20 7:23:50 ET ReplyTrace
From: harrowup Date: Sat Jul 13, 2002 3:24 pm Subject: Re: Liberty Post
Another 'government sucks' group claiming that no one else loves liberty or the constitution more than they do...and everyone else is not really a conservative.
With any luck, the beta-gammas will manage to destroy it and then move over to Liberty Forum in order to REALLY get their butts kicked.
Will they EVER learn that their chain has been yanked so long and so thoroughly that it no longer has links? I guess that is why they ctd's so poorly.
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It's clear you have this forum's best interests at heart, Admiral.
...stream of unconsciousness is siphoned from the entropy pool?
No Lettuce for Chew!
Sour Grapes Only!
#3 aka Stevie Dung Beetle & his Maggot Band.
There you go again. Plagiarizing a concise thought and then by making a positive a negative turning a reasonable philosophical theory into a jargon rich pile of dung.
BASIC? ASCII v. HTML? I think not. You've pasted so much dung you overlooked your understanding of the incident up thread.
We're still waiting for your narrative on how contradictions confirm collusion...
As you are unwilling to address your yukon disaster, you could always address the Orly filing with your Yale knowledge. That should be fun.
Stealing the hamster wheel is okay. Your's has got to be worn out.
If your Orly investigation, cough, cough, is as ludicrous as your failure to explain how contradictions prove a conspiracy then she should be in pretty good shape. Been to Yale, never studied there. Met with their forensics teams many, many times and even they hadn't gone to Yale Law.
Fred, I'm backing away from this half-wit; I never feel very funny when sad news takes over.
If your Orly investigation, cough, cough, is as ludicrous....
If my opinion of the Orly filing is ludicrous, then your opinion of it must be that it will prevail. We only have a very short time to wait until a court, yet again, confirms the obvious. You're full of crap.