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Title: Welcome Nolu Chan
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Published: Aug 11, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-08-11 17:46:58 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 417451
Comments: 437

Welcome Nolu Chan.

Hey be nice everybody.

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#285. To: Skip Intro (#284)

Rockridge, maybe. To be safe I'd go to Orinda or Lafayette. A mountain separates them from Oakland.

I guess Piedmont could be considered another one. When I was growing up in the East Bay we just considered the whole bay area a suburb of SF.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-17   12:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: mininggold (#285)

Is Piedmont a BART stop? Having lived in the East Bay, that's the only way I can keep these places straight.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-08-17   12:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: calcon (#278)

I am actually not laughing at him/her. I am overwhelmed with pity and sorrow at the reality of such a shallow and meaningless existence.

Thinking of why someone chooses to be a cyberstalking/internet troll/bully, for SO many years- takes me a dark and lonely place.

Shudder the thought. I am going to pray for whoever is behind that screen name. What a pathetic waste of humanity.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-08-17   13:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: Skip Intro (#286)

Is Piedmont a BART stop? Having lived in the East Bay, that's the only way I can keep these places straight.

Not that I know of. It's where the Oakland upper crust used to or maybe still live.. I don't go down there unless than I have to, which was about 10 years ago, so I might be wrong.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-17   13:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: harrowup (#276)

blah blah, blah blah, blah blah....

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=310787&Disp=121#C121

#121. To: We The People, Gatlin, Goldi-lox, yukon (#116)

And for the record, I really don't care about how you may feel or think about my actions.

Self righteous guardians of the truth don't have to care; their very being is perfect and all they survey evil if they so decide.

AA is full of them; churches are full of them; boyscouts aren't.

The most ludicrous fact is that you did not find a crime in stealing yukon's password and casting deeply disturbing innuendo and false claims and then suggesting it was a crime to threaten you with the truth?

You will never get the point until you get to a clinic and/or divorce court, again, whichever comes first.

You're just a silly little gnome; sick but probably not psychotic. Just a perfect human and boring as hell. A simpering nerd with a terrible insecurity complex. Did your mother get a little fixated on toilet training? Seriously not interested in your answers. You are not capable of honest objective reasoning.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-23   12:09:18 ET  Reply   Trace

Now the admiral is back to claiming someone stole yukon's password.

On 4/1, yukon claimed he did not use the same password on both sites. On 4/10, Gatlin claimed that yukon did use the same password on both sites, and that such was his (Gatlin's) explanation since day two. On 4/17, Gatlin offered, Yukon's old password at LP was guessed within minutes. More Gatlin on 4/17, If someone guesses a password and enters a computer, that is legally hacking. On 4/18, Gatlin claimed to have guessed the password at LF on the first try. On 4/19, Harrowup offered an article claiming, Yukon's Passwords Were Stolen.... On 4/22, Gatlin claimed that Goldi guessed the password on LP in a couple of minutes.

Guessing passwords, plural, that were supposedly so obvious that the first two people who tried supposedly nailed one on the first try and the other in minutes. That was the attempt to coverup the busted claim that two different passwords were stolen from two different sites.

If someone has the proper password and uses it to log in, that is hacking. That is legally hacking. Uh huh.

And remember the Gatlin claim, "Yukon's pw was stolen at LP; hacked was a term that never should have been used." It was stolen, and the feat was accomplished without hacking. It was guessed and guessing is stealing.

The claim of hacking was demolished and this nonsense was the best the yukons could come up with.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-17   13:44:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: harrowup (#276)

blah blah, blah blah, blah blah....

http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23395&Disp=240#C240

#240. To: Fred Mertz, mcgowanjm, Robin, The Talking Mouse, IDontThinkSo, _'+?@!, war, Buckaroo (#219)

GATLIN'S THIRD TRY - EPIC FAIL

#383. To: A K A Stone (#381)

I could only do that by comparing the current PW with something from the archives, and that would require loading up the older files which is a bit of effort. But keep in mind that only someone with admin access to the site can change PWs.

Yukon's old password at LP was guessed within minutes. Assuming that someone did guess the simple passwords yukon used at both sites, all the hacker had to do was sign in as yukon and Ibluafartsky and change the passwords. That would take no admin access to do that.

While any unauthorized entry into a computer (system) is legally called hacking .. technically the guessing of a password and entering a computer is not hacking. I think Neil is referring to someone having access to all PWs to change and that may not be (probably is not) the case here and at LP.

If this is true, then Neil will be able to determine nothing ... is that correct Neil

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-17 23:23:21 ET

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=388#C388

#388. To: A K A Stone, yukon (#382)

[excerpt]

If someone guesses a password and enters a computer, that is legally hacking. If that someone then changes the password so that only he can make posts ... then yukon could not enter LF as he stated he could not. There will be no evidence that happened.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-17 23:31:57 ET

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=429#C429

#429. To: Murron (#421)

LMAO! I've known I could do this since I first signed on here yrs ago, what's the big deal? Is this what this whole fiasco's been about?

The "hacker" knew he could do it too ... AND HE DID IT!

Everyone was: Looking in all the wrong places for love.

I have been saying all along this was how the hacker was able to operate as he did.

Yukon's old password was guesses in minutes by someone.

Elementary, "My Dear Watson."

You are corret ... there is no big deal here.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-18 0:05:55 ET

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=484#C484

#484. To: A K A Stone (#482)

I will go back and answer the questions if you want me to ... no problem.

BTW ... during the excitement, I think I said that someone over at LP guessed yukon's password in a few minutes.

I forgot to tell you that I guessed Ibluafartsky's password at LF on the first guess. I have the email confirming that ... of course the doubters will say that email is a fake, but IDGAS what the doubters say.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-18 1:08:06 ET

Unauthorized entry into a computer or system is not legally called hacking. It is not called hacking by hackers. It is not hacking. It is unauthorized entry.

Guessing a password is not hacking. Guessing two passwords is generally called bulls**t. There is no evidence of hacking, but there is ample evidence of bulls**t.

Using Gatlin's new and creative definition, the hacking occurred when the password was used to effect unauthorized entry to the yukon account on LP.

I will now apply that bulls**t to the earlier claims of Gatlin.

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http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=369#C369

[excerpts]

I haven't found any knew (sic) information that would reveal the fact that Yukon was hacked prior to posting the outing thread at LP.

Nor have I. I checked my records and I can find that happening nowhere. And if I read Stone’s and Goldi’s posts correctly, they also have found no information that would reveal the fact that Yukon was hacked prior to posting the outing thread at LP. I believe it has been both stated and concluded that the “new” ISP in the UK was first used at the initial entry into the respective forums for the specific purpose of posting the two bogus threads.

Your question quite naturally framed a question for me to ask you back … the question is: Why would it be expected that Ibluafartsky/yukon was hacked prior to the hacker posting his thread at LP (and LF, for that matter)?

Gatlin/Tater posted on 2011-04-16 17:04:07 ET

If the supposed "hacking" was nothing more than using the correctly guessed password to effect entry to the yukon account, how did the ersatz "hacker" post anything prior to the "hacking," i.e., prior to using the real password to effect entry to the yukon LP account?

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http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=374#C374

In order to follow the electronic footprints through his front door directly to his computer keyboard, it is necessary to first look for the person who has a long standing grudge against Goldi and yukon. That is where I started looking to follow his footsteps.

Look carefully and discover that it was not yukon saying I used the wrong link … it was the hacker saying I am not as smart as I thought I was, I should not have established such an obvious pattern and continually used the same ISP.

A dumb hacker does dumb things … A smart hacker does dumber thing ~ Gatlin

Gatlin is not following any electronic footprints anywhere. With no evidence he purports that some dastardly badguy correctly guessed two different passwords, used a proxy which rendered him unidentifiable, and got away clean.

Gatlin has been running around casting aspersions on Buckaroo, but he has not produced one scintilla of evidence of a hack. And now a hack becomes an amazing feat of guessing two different passwords.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=926#C926

#926. To: Goldi-Lox (#919)

It looks like 6 posts were made, and 5 had the first number, only one had the second.

Smart dude ... knew what he was doing.

No way to trace it.

I believe it was also Buckeroo that said yukon would be smart enough to channel his IP so that it would not be detected.

He said that after Stone said that yukon (forgot his screen over there) has used a different IP than than he had been using.

That Bucky sure has ass the answers ... Not saying who may be guilty ... just saying what Bucky said.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-04 18:16:45 ET

No way to trace it. That's so April 4th. Now Gatlin is following imaginary electronic footprints through some front door directly to some computer keyboard.

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http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19241&Disp=337#C337

#337. To: war (#285)

After using the same IP all the time, why would Ibluafartsky suddenly decide to use a proxy server to hide the IP address he had been using all the time.

Help me understand what yukon admitting that he was Ibluafartsky would prove.

Better still, if he yukon admits that he was Ibluafartsky ... how will that change you opinion about anything.

My explanation is as it has been from day two ... yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password at both LP and LF. You no doubt already know that one of the simplest ways to gain access to a pasword is through the use of a Brute Force Attack. This is accomplished when a hacker uses a specially written piece of software to attempt to log into a site. One site has a list of the Top 10 FREE Password Crackers. The IPs at LP and LF were both different than yukon or Ibluafartsky had been using for some time.The IPs that the phoney yukon used at LP was a proxy IP fed through the UK (I traced it) and problably the same here.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-10 21:04:05 ET

Oh crap! That's so last week. On April 10th, Gatlin asserted that his explanation is, as it has been from day two ... yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password on both LP and LF. That was, of course, blasted by the quoted post of yukon from April 1st that he did not use the same password.

Oh crap again! Gatlin claims knowledge that yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password on LP and LF. His only possible source for that information, yukon, said exactly the opposite. Who does Gatlin claim as a source of information for two original passwords?

#253. To: TooConservative (#211)

Some people use the same passwords over and over at different forums.

Not in my case.

yukon posted on 2011-04-01 13:31:02 ET

All these yukons can't keep their story straight.

Now this gasbag claims it really was two different passwords, and not only that, he now recalls that he personally correctly guessed the second, different password for LF on his very first try. I wonder why he maintained, for so long, that yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password at both LP and LF. One wonders what was his source of information for that as yukon said the exact opposite.

On April 10th, Gatlin was implying that use of a computer program, with a brute force attack, had something to do with something, or perhaps he was just bulls**ting. Faced with the fact that Neil should find tens or hundreds of thousands of login attempts, faster that a human could have done, this quickly morphed to miraculous guessing of two passwords, and no hack at all.

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http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=374#C374

[excerpt]

Now, would you like to make a wager. I am prepred to consider a wager that I can hack your account here on LF, steal your password and post an admission/confession that you are a homosexual. (You must not have changed your password after 4/15/11). In order to make the wager, I would need a signed agreement for permissible conditions from you, and I would need the same from Stone authorizing me to be a white hat hacker (one who breaks security for non-malicious reasons such as testing the security system … as Stone would be authorizing me to do). FYI: The “white hat” hacker is also called an “ethical hacker” … and I do want to forever remain ethical. You will probably want to skip right on by this paragraph because the minimum wager must be an extremely large amount (to be specified later) for me to take time to do it … and there would be certain mutually restrictive agreed conditions, plus the monies would be held in an escrow account.

Oh, never mind. Cracking passwords in the database on or before 4/15/11 is now inoperative, even with a brute force attack by a white hat bulls***er. And who uses a cracker program that can only crack passwords made on 4/15/2011 or before?

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The alleged dastardly perpetrator allegedly used a proxy site based in the UK. The following attack thread on Buckaroo presents the "evidence" that Buckaroo uses an email account not based in the UK, and which is not a proxy service, proving... well, nothing. At least not proving anything about Buckaroo.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305755

Title: Well, looky here.. ..Debka ..... ...... buckeroo@XXXX.com
Source: libertypost.org
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=964#C964
Published: Apr 4, 2011
Author: WS
Post Date: 2011-04-04 22:31:12 by WhiteSands
Views: 501
Comments: 46

Well, looky here....

Screen Name......Email Debka ...........buckeroo@ireland.com

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http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305755&Disp=1#C1

#1. To: All (#0)

This explains who would even know of such a site as Iloveyourcook !

WhiteSands posted on 2011-04-04 22:32:39 ET

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http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305755&Disp=2#C2

#2. To: WhiteSands (#1)

This explains who would even know of such a site as Iloveyourcook !

What a scumbag he is.

domer posted on 2011-04-04 22:41:42 ET

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http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305755&Disp=5#C5

#5. To: WhiteSands, buckeroo, freedom4umfaggots, lflamefaggots (#1)

This explains who would even know of such a site as Iloveyourcook !

Buckeroo is nothing but an alcoholic old faggot that needs a psychiatrist. What a lowlife, vile, despicable, cowardly POS.

yukon posted on 2011-04-05 0:14:50 ET

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http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305755&Disp=6#C6

#6. To: WhiteSands, All (#0)

Thanks to everyone who exposed the biggest a$$hole I've ever run across in my entire life. Not that he doesn't have plenty of competition at dum4um and liars flame.

yukon posted on 2011-04-05 0:30:54 ET

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http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305755&Disp=7#C7

#7. To: yukon (#5)

Buckeroo is nothing but an alcoholic old faggot that needs a psychiatrist. What a lowlife, vile, despicable, cowardly POS.

Alcoholic in need of a therapist? Clearly.

Faggot? Doubtful. Have you seen his shoes?

Lowlife, vile, despicable, cowardly POS? No question.

Pathological liar is another distinction that might be added.

harrowup posted on 2011-04-05 0:47:03 ET

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http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305755&Disp=11#C11

#11. To: harrowup (#7)

Buckeroo is nothing but an alcoholic old faggot that needs a psychiatrist. What a lowlife, vile, despicable, cowardly POS. Alcoholic in need of a therapist? Clearly.

Faggot? Doubtful. Have you seen his shoes?

Lowlife, vile, despicable, cowardly POS? No question.

Pathological liar is another distinction that might be added.

You guys left NOTHING for me to add.

You are so greedy.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-05 0:57:28 ET

nolu chan  posted on  2011-04-18   22:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Edit

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-17   13:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: harrowup (#276)

blah blah, blah blah, blah blah....

http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23395&Disp=241#C241

#241. To: Fred Mertz, mcgowanjm, Robin, The Talking Mouse, IDontThinkSo, _'+?@!, war, Buckaroo (#240)

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=824#C824

#824. To: A K A Stone, Liberator, buckeroo, calcon, war, Murron, (#815)

Damn Chan. You have way to much time on your hands.

I've heard of Tommie Chan, idiot #3 son and having more than a dozen children it was inevitable that another idiot comes along.

The 'epic fail' would be that pile of crap. Yukon's pw was stolen at LP; hacked was a term that never should have been used. Where it began, is immaterial. There was a theft and then libel and slander undertaken by at least three posters who have/had posting privileges at both LP and LF.

There is nothing to be gained by further displays of ugliness and stupidity.

Many of the posters in the last few days with far too much imagination couldn't accept the fact that the truth was displayed by Tater/Gatlin on Sunday in a display of complete honesty with both the expose on the ease of PW theft and a short lecture on hate which was followed by exactly that point.

Eventually the crazies had no fallback and decided to go Lord of the Maggots and are convinced that Gatlin, harrowup and others are one poster.

The intentional reinforcement of that silliness led to the predictable reactions of the last few posters and reinforces my belief that the egos involved are toxic.

Now, y'all can go on taking this opportunity to express your outrage at your host using us as a cover or you can go back to being whatever it is you claim you are at least in your own minds.

This has never been an attack on A K A Stone or Liberty's Flame. LF has some meaningful members just as does LP. My final comment on the matter will be directed to Goldi, once more suggesting she reinstate the culprits to LP so that, if necessary, we have the opportunity to smack them down one more time.

harrowup posted on 2011-04-19 7:16:50 ET

Now yukon's password was "stolen," not guessed. Harrowup does not explain how it was "stolen."

At least Harrowup recognizes that "hacked was a term that never should have been used." Of course that did not stop TEAM YUKONS from using precisely that term over and over until it backfired and became a liability.

Harrowup claims, "Where it began, is immaterial." That is because he would like everyone to forget that false claim, repeated over and over by TEAM YUKONS, in order to shovel new false claims to the internet.

Harrowup Esq. claims, "There was a theft and then libel and slander undertaken by at least three posters who have/had posting privileges at both LP and LF." I can't wait to see the lawsuit, Internet handle Harrowup v. Internet handle Badguy. Slander is oral defamation. Harrowup must have heard voices.

Many of the posters in the last few days with far too much imagination couldn't accept the fact that the truth was displayed by Tater/Gatlin on Sunday in a display of complete honesty with both the expose on the ease of PW theft and a short lecture on hate which was followed by exactly that point.

Many of the posters do not accept the crap that Gatlin posted because it is false crap, contradicted by his earlier false crap, exposed as exhibiting far too much imagination, and lacking in fact.

Harrowup cannot show any evidence of theft. If the multiple passwords were stolen, who were the multiple passwords stolen from? Gatlin said they were guessed. Gatlin said he, himself, divined the Ibluafartsky password on his very first guess. Did he, thereby, steal the password?

Of course, the posts of witless Gatlin are a smoking gun. He claimed knowledge that the same password was used on the LP yukon account and the LF Fartsky account. Unless he was privy to the passwords as a community user of those handles, he could not know the original passwords unless yukon/Fartsky revealed them. He could not even verify his guess except via yukon/Fartsky. Unfortunately for Gatlin, on 4/1/2011 yukon had already emphatically denied that he had used the same password on the two sites. But if yukon was not the source of Gatlin's information, what was?

Damn, don't you just hate it when that happens?

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http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=829#C829

#829. To: A K A Stone, nula chan, ALL (#815) (Edited)

Damn Chan. You have way to much time on your hands.

Damn Stone. You should have something better to do than to trash me behind my back ... and attempt to use me as a a pawn in your continuing attempt to lure "chan" to your forum.

First, you didn't know that a password can be changed from the "Set Up" screen. Now, you obviously don't know how to ping someone you are discussing in a post ... so they may respond.

That refelects poorly on your ability to manage a forum and to properly participate therein.

This is the second time you have pulled this s**t, talking about me behind my back without pinging me to your post ... I will not sit and quietly wait for a third time.

You had best learn right now that if you ever, ever, again take the opportunity to say something about me, you damned well better say it to my face and not behind my back!

Do I make myself perfectly clear?

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-19 10:12:12 ET

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Gatlin says, "Damn Stone. You should have something better to do than to trash me behind my back ... and attempt to use me as a a pawn in your continuing attempt to lure "chan" to your forum."

Gee, all Stone did was repost what I had posted. If Stone had not done so, Gatlin would have seen it at TPF. Gatlin has repeatedly commented on what he has seen at TPF. It appears that he is still one of my fans.

I do wish Stone had copied and pasted the source code so that my evisceration of Gatlin's nonsense would have been in a readable format, as it appears here. A link would have been nice. I'm almost tempted to sign up and repost it properly just for Gatlin.

Gatlin will not credibly explain his source of knowledge for the multiple original passwords. Gatlin has dug a deep hole on that one. He keeps contradicting himself and making ridiculous claims. Oh, the poetic lectures about White Hat Hackers and Password Crackers. I just keep documenting Gatlin's ridiculous and conflicting claims.

Gatlin sternly told Stone that he will not sit quietly and wait. He is going to wail loudly and then hold his breath until he turns blue.

Not even Stone was impressed with that nonsense.

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=830#C830

#830. To: Gatlin (#829)

Chan mentioned lots of people. You read everything on this thread.

Don't be a smart ass.

A K A Stone posted on 2011-04-19 10:15:12 ET

I thought Gatlin was trying to lure me to LF. Ah, but that is so yesterday all the way back at 2:07 in the afternoon.

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=517#C517

#517. To: NOLU CHAN (#515)

You still taking notes ... DETECTIVE NOLU CHAN?

You are completely wrong on a few things.

Stop in when you can and I will show you where.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-18 2:07:26 ET

Thanks for the invitation. Try to work on your short term memory.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-04-19   13:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Edit

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-17   13:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: harrowup (#276)

You just keep proving my point, motherjones. Making mincemeat of you has always been a simple case of watching you self indict. Slap-downs aren't necessary; your narratives lack originality to say the least.

Slap-downs of you are too easy because, when confronted with facts, you instantly turn into a warm puddle of piss, unable to say anything substantive. I understand they only keep an ass like you on a ship because a sheep would be too obvious.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-17   13:53:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: nolu chan, calcon, harrowup, Gatlin (#291)

Here is the REAL conspiracy .....

#19. To: calcon (#15)

The gay link was never posted to show that yukon was a homo ... the gay link was posted to draw out and expose posters like you.

It is doing that ...

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-24 11:10:49

The thread was pulled by A K A Stone, so no link other than a record from a local file.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-17   14:58:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: nolu chan, Buckeroo, calcon, The Skipper and Gilligan, Ibluafartsky, yukon (#292)

Many of the posters do not accept the crap that Gatlin posted because it is false crap, contradicted by his earlier false crap, exposed as exhibiting far too much imagination, and lacking in fact.

Harrowup cannot show any evidence of theft. If the multiple passwords were stolen, who were the multiple passwords stolen from? Gatlin said they were guessed. Gatlin said he, himself, divined the Ibluafartsky password on his very first guess. Did he, thereby, steal the password?

Of course, the posts of witless Gatlin are a smoking gun. He [Gatlin] claimed knowledge that the same password was used on the LP yukon account and the LF Fartsky account. Unless he was privy to the passwords as a community user of those handles, he could not know the original passwords unless yukon/Fartsky revealed them. He could not even verify his guess except via yukon/Fartsky. Unfortunately for Gatlin, on 4/1/2011 yukon had already emphatically denied that he had used the same password on the two sites. But if yukon was not the source of Gatlin's information, what was?

Damn, don't you just hate it when that happens?

HA! Yeah, what a tough break for the yukons...AND Gatlin. Gatlin claimed to know a bit too much....

You have devastatingly taken apart every single convoluted, contradicted BS detail of their sloppy cover-up and proven they are simple lack any credibility whatsoever. Your demolition of their charade is complete, Chan. The other research you've conducted has been quite interesting as well - thanks.

'Yukon' and 'fartsky' are obviously "community user" handles accessed by the afore-mentioned composite posters yukon, hup and tater, esq., etal.

This would explain the immediate and desperate ring of fire created around the Community Bot handle of the former closeted poster named "yukon".

The best defense is a good offense...but for only so long. Accusations of other posters was really their only card to play. FAIL.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-17   17:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: calcon (#277)

and our city treasury is up to it's ass in excess cash.

You should share the wealth with Lynwood or Hawaiian Gardens. ;)

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-17   17:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: Thunderbird (#279)

(also known as Mayberry by the Bay)

Funny!

btw, Fresno has the worst architecture I've seen in California. Must of missed JimRob's "Castle Donationia"

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-17   17:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: mininggold (#280)

The Lost Sierras is God's country.

Google leaves me unsure of the area...got a link? I'm interested.

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-17   17:24:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: mininggold (#281)

I didn't know Oakland had suburbs.

From the Stadium, the area you go through to get to the tall buildings of Downtown. I don't know the name...Ghettoland?

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-17   17:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: buckeroo, nolu chan, calcon, The Skipper and Gilligan (#293)

Here is the REAL conspiracy .....

#19. To: calcon (#15)

The gay link was never posted to show that yukon was a homo ... the gay link was posted to draw out and expose posters like you.

It is doing that ...

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-24 11:10:49

Doesn't this post by Gatlin indicate that he'd already been privy to the access 'yukon's' handle at the time of the "outing"?

That he and the yukons seduced and fooled Goldi as they tried to sell a fake "I wuz hacked" fairy tale to two forums?

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-17   17:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: nolu chan, The Skipper (#292)

Does The Skipper actually believe he possesses an iota of credibility?

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-17   17:32:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: Liberator (#299)

Doesn't this post by Gatlin indicate that he'd already been privy to the access 'yukon's' handle at the time of the "outing"?

That he and the yukons seduced and fooled Goldi as they tried to sell a fake "I wuz hacked" fairy tale to two forums?

I've always thought so. How did the "Goldi is Dead!" thread fit in?

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-17   17:34:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: nolu chan, Gilligan (#290)

On April 10th, Gatlin asserted that his explanation is, as it has been from day two ... yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password on both LP and LF. That was, of course, blasted by the quoted post of yukon from April 1st that he [yukon] DID NOT use the same password.

Credibility: ZERO

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-17   17:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: socalv8 (#301)

How did the "Goldi is Dead!" thread fit in?

To create the further illusion of a wholesale LP "hacking" taking place.

I even recall some lunatic poster named 'Thompson such and such' unleashing incoherent rants about "Thompson" fella. Again, this was IMO another anomaly designed to give the impression of a "hacked" forum at the time as cover for the original gay outing.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-17   17:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: socalv8, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#301) (Edited)

How did the "Goldi is Dead!" thread fit in?

It was intended to promote the impression that the site was under attack. Hackers to the left, hackers to the right... so yukon's not gay. An ultra-lame story, since it was just an account created for the Goldi Dead story, and not a hack at all.

Really Gatlin and the yuklowns used yukons password which he gave them, to login under HideMyAss and other proxies, to make it look more like a hack. A virtual, phony hack, cover up attempt. They had to blame someone, so they blamed anyone who questioned the hacker story.

IMO


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-17   17:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: hondo68, socalv8, buckeroo, nolu chan (#304)

It was intended to promote the impression that the site was under attack. Hackers to the left, hackers to the right... so yukon's not gay. An ultra-lame story, since it was just an account created for the Goldi Dead story, and not a hack at all.

My impression as well; You did a better job of explaining it.

Really Gatlin and the yuklowns used yukons password which he gave them, to login under HideMyAss and other proxies, to make it look more like a hack. A virtual, phony hack, cover up attempt. They had to blame someone, so they blamed anyone who questioned the hacker story.

That's pretty good.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-17   17:49:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: Liberator, calcon, Gatlin (#299)

Doesn't this post by Gatlin indicate that he'd already been privy to the access 'yukon's' handle at the time of the "outing"?

It portrays an unusual but clear modis operandi for the entire scenario; as I recall that thread, calcon drew out that remarck from Gatlin with relative ease; it was on a Sunday morning and I am confident that Gatlin had his faire share of inbibing some good stuff the night before. So, with his own hangover close to delirium tremens (but not quite) he wanders over here on LF and to use a proverbial classic cliché, Gatlin: let the cat out of the bag.

To answer your question, of course it does. It also infers a backchannel of communications between the LP Kloaughns. Since, Goldi doesn't permit PM on LP, they have a conspiracy going on, perhaps raging against ALL posters of their dislike.

That he and the yukons seduced and fooled Goldi as they tried to sell a fake "I wuz hacked" fairy tale to two forums?

Don't forget our own esteemed channel boss, A K A Stone. To this day, he still thinks I "hacked" the infamous "yukon" character.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-17   18:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: hondo68, socalV8, Liberator, nolu chan (#304)

It was intended to promote the impression that the site was under attack. Hackers to the left, hackers to the right... so yukon's not gay. An ultra-lame story, since it was just an account created for the Goldi Dead story, and not a hack at all.

Don't forget the infamous thread by 22rifle about some sort of nonsense, We are in Control or some other silly notion.

I thought that thread was an all time hit! It is a Classic!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-17   18:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: Liberator, anyone (#305)

What I would really like to understand is WHY? Why in the world do these people, (or person) spend so much time and energy protecting a screen name? No one knows the real yukon- or is threatening to out the real person behind the screen name. Is this fun for hup and the yukons? Is it all just a stoopid game?

I don't get it. Why are these people so demented? It's a screen name. It is not like the yukon character was a pillar of morality and kindness BEFORE the link.

What, do you think, is the purpose of all of this?

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-08-17   19:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: diva betsy ross (#308)

No one knows the real yukon- or is threatening to out the real person behind the screen name.

The assumption that it is one (1) person may not be correct.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-17   19:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: buckeroo (#293)

Here is the REAL conspiracy .....

#19. To: calcon (#15)

The gay link was never posted to show that yukon was a homo ... the gay link was posted to draw out and expose posters like you.

It is doing that ...

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-24 11:10:49

Correct. That functions as an admission that there was no hack, no theft — it maintains the gay link was posted purposefully by the yukons. They could get all confused about passwords because they ALL had the password and they ALL used the community account.

The purposeful posting grope was the story of last resort after the hacker and password theft story fell apart, and the password guess required two miraculous guesses and became comical.

btw, before the LP braintrust declared I was mojo/Steve Gilbert, another LP braniac declared over and over that I was a Burmese lawyer named Dennis Kaw.

I'm not Kaw either. Kaw was the JAG lawyer who prosecuted and convicted this particular brainiac. This is another example of stupidity and a vivid imagination at work. Then the FBI was sent a letter (page 1/page 2), put up on Orly's blog, about an imaginary cyber crime stating:

"Mr. Nolu Chan is believed to be Dennis Kaw, of Denver, Colorado . Who presumably is with the law firm of Fisher, Sweetbaum, Levin, and Sancs, P.C. 1125, 17th Street, Suite 2100, Denver, Colorado. 303 296-3377.

Thank you. Please take this information under consideration and if warranted, investigate the above. In closing, I request, unless absolutely necessary, to remain anonymous."

I believe somebody called Dennis Kaw and he did not know what the hell they were talking about. I'll bet he remembers meathead though.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=273419&Disp=6#C6

#6. To: All (#0)

POSTER "NOLU CHAN"--(DISGRACED AIR FORCE CAPTAIN DENNIS KAW) ----I notice you have nothing to say about these cases!!!

Perhaps this is why--- http://www.militarycorruption.com/soundoff4.htm

Here's what Nolu Chan (dennis kaw) looks like http://www.fslpc.com/sap/37.php

Ewwww! A geek! He looks just like a snake!

Tea Party Reveler  posted on  2009-09-16   0:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace  

Before this genius was Tea Party Reveler, he was handled as Idol Hanz until he was banned.

He's as dumb as harrowup, but he was persistent, just not very good at target acquisition.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=278213

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Post Date: 2009-11-14 17:40:46 by Goldi-Lox

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#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0)

I guess this means I can't threaten to beat up disgraced former Air Force Captain JAG lawyer BURMESE Dennis Kaw (Nolu Chan) anymore. He hates Orly and us. He lies, cheats, steals and is dishonorable by any definition of the word.

Kaw (sounds like a nuisance black bird to me) is NOT loyal to the USA.

Tea Party Reveler posted on 2009-11-14 17:46:15 ET Reply Trace

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-17   19:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: Liberator (#302)

On April 10th, Gatlin asserted that his explanation is, as it has been from day two ... yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password on both LP and LF. That was, of course, blasted by the quoted post of yukon from April 1st that he [yukon] DID NOT use the same password.

Credibility: ZERO

It is also indicative that they were using community accounts with a common password. A little white lie on 4/1 about using good security (enhancing the hacker story of that moment) was later stumbled over by Gatlin with the password(s) guess story.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-17   19:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: buckeroo (#306)

as I recall that thread, calcon drew out that remarck from Gatlin with relative ease; it was on a Sunday morning and I am confident that Gatlin had his faire share of inbibing some good stuff the night before.

one sunday morning is right, tater and I got into a big pissing with insults flying back and forth, and looks like tater blew it big time.

Unfortunately, stone was pissed at the the constant bickering going on and starting deleting all off topic posts and told us both to cut the crap out, so that's how it got deleted.

Enough of us made a copy of that post prior to the deletion to preserve it.

calcon  posted on  2011-08-17   20:00:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: diva betsy ross (#308) (Edited)

Why in the world do these people, (or person) spend so much time and energy protecting a screen name?

no kidding, since they all have been caught using other alias.

Personally if someone did that to me, i'd be laughing my ass off at what a great prank it was. Likewise, if i'd pulled it off, i would be bragging to the world about it.

The yukons cracks me up about something illegal taking place. Hell, no court in the world would listen to nonsense like that.

calcon  posted on  2011-08-17   20:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: nolu chan (#309)

They might be worried about karma. You know- they might be worried that what they have done to others, will be done to them.

Must stink to always be looking over their shoulder like that. I suspect a little stress disorder is something they have to live with, and could account for some of the erratic behavior.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-08-17   20:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: nolu chan (#310)

I was once asked by one of the LP Kloaughns why I hated "Goldi" or "yukon" or LP. I answered: that I don't, I just want my money back.

But there is a question that stands out in contrast that I want to ask both Gatlin and harrowup. Why do you two folks HATE posters that don't agree with you?

It is a freak show on LP similar to FR anymore because of the LP Kloaughns. That channel wants to accomplish nothing other than spreading gossip, rumours and speculation AND the LP Kloaughns displace rational debate, careful consideration or even the revelation of new data that may have impact upon an opinion. It is far too easy for many to play with a method of speculation which (when left to itself) inevitably leads to a witch-hunt.

Still, it is all in good fun or at minimum, should be in good fun to exchange ideas.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-17   20:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: socalv8 (#298)

From the Stadium, the area you go through to get to the tall buildings of Downtown. I don't know the name...Ghettoland?

If you went from the stadium to downtown on International Blvd. you went through a pretty rough area of East Oakland. The area spans several geographic/ethnic neighborhoods but is generally called 'indian country' by civilians.

Geez...I hope you weren't sporting any Dodger blue.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-17   20:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: socalv8 (#297)

Google leaves me unsure of the area...got a link? I'm interested.

It's where the world's first ski races were held. And there's not one ski lift in the whole area.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-18   0:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: Liberator, buckeroo, calcon (#299)

Doesn't this post by Gatlin indicate that he'd already been privy to the access 'yukon's' handle at the time of the "outing"?

Also, ask yourself when people were guessing two different passwords with yukon? There can be no valid time. The sole source of password information was the account holder of yukon. If the guessing occurred any time before the 4/10 claim, the guesser should have learned before the 4/10 claim that there were two different passwords. If the guesses were any time after the 4/1 claim, Gatlin had no source for his conflicting claim, other than his own personal knowledge. If he knew the password(s), any guessing would have to be a B.S. story.

I believe the likely explanation is that the 4/1 claim was false, and the revision of reality was not effectively communcated to the team of yukons. One of them, unaware on 4/10 that he had a lie to perpetuate, screwed the pooch by truthfully claiming the same password was used on both sites. Because of the 4/1 claim, the mythical yukon account holder could not have been the source of that information. That indicates a shared password community account.

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-18   1:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: buckeroo (#315)

But there is a question that stands out in contrast that I want to ask both Gatlin and harrowup. Why do you two folks HATE posters that don't agree with you?

I don't believe they feel any hate about it. The other posters are irrelevant except as targets; there is no emotion involved. With a community handle it is possible to have a team of operators punching a clock and working shifts, especially if a government sponsors it. Whether a sponsored group, or a group of individuals disrupting for sport (like a cat with a toy mouse), they couldn't care less about the other posters. They work to push buttons to bring anger out from other people. They sort of strive to make the target so mad he doesn't think straight.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-18   1:45:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: nolu chan (#319) (Edited)

I don't believe they feel any hate about it

The term, "hate" is not used loosely. The Israelis have already deemed me a "HATER." That was through their well-orchestrated websites when I ran March for Liberty, back in both 1999 and 2000.

OOPPSS, I forgot to mention the ADL HATED me and others.

The other posters are irrelevant except as targets; there is no emotion involved. With a community handle it is possible to have a team of operators punching a clock and working shifts, especially if a government sponsors it. Whether a sponsored group, or a group of individuals disrupting for sport (like a cat with a toy mouse), they couldn't care less about the other posters. They work to push buttons to bring anger out from other people. They sort of strive to make the target so mad he doesn't think straight.

Well, some of us actually fight back; it isn't necessarily on chit-chat channels, either. And, MANY REMEMBER!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-18   2:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: mininggold (#317)

It's where the world's first ski races were held. And there's not one ski lift in the whole area.

Longboard skiing miners...Cool.
Almost looks like a 22YukGatUp brainstorming session.

Harrowup looks ready to barf.

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-18   2:09:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: buckeroo (#307)

Don't forget the infamous thread by 22rifle about some sort of nonsense, We are in Control or some other silly notion.

22r then bugged out for spell...Guilty of the premature link pasting on the communal account?

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-18   2:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: buckeroo (#320)

The term, "hate" is not used loosely. The Israelis have already deemed me a "HATER." ...

Well, some of us actually fight back; it isn't necessarily on chit-chat channels, either. And, MANY REMEMBER!

You are correct. If you effectively fight back, they develop a real mean streak. Informative threads, such as this, tend to tick them off.

In my experience, I have not had an issue with Israelis generally, but with Zionist wingnuts. For them everyone is anti-semitic unless they express unquestioning support for everything the Israeli government wants. I feel U.S. foreign policy should favor the best interests of the U.S.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-18   2:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: nolu chan (#323)

I feel U.S. foreign policy should favor the best interests of the U.S.

Well, how about that! Further proof that you aren't aloof to the issues around us [not that you are].

Wouldn't it be almost a pristine condition if American government created policies that centered upon AMERICANS as opposed to every Tom and Dick & Harry about the world? The idea is too cutting edge for many, while I see the rising of blood on the streets for and about the atrocious international policies of American government.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-18   2:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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