Title: Welcome Nolu Chan Source:
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I'm looking foreward to his posts. I remember him under the screen name Columbo at Anti-Kooking / Clown Posse as one of that site's more genuinely investagative members and not just one of its hacker / trouble makers.
I particularly liked his expose of Jim Rob's involvement with human sexual trafficing sites before founding FreeRepublic that he did for the kloughns as Columbo.
His 'expose' was as false as the all the other crap the clone pussies 'created'.
Nothing but maggots and shit bugs in a hamster cage.
What an impact they made...just as effective at closing down FR as the resident sociopaths have been in destroying LP and LF.
None of the 'TOS' sites mean squat in the political landscape. FR as one of the first almost made a difference and then reverted to nothing but a non-stop crusade for extreme right wing fundy bullshit. DU, lucianne are no different.
American Thinker is only slightly more boring than reading the obits.
The clone pussies were no different than the hooligans rioting except that the hooligans have an exit strategy. Clone pussies and other anti-forum trolls just want to knock out the status-quo and take over for 'libertarian' rule which is anarchy.
[Harrowup #47] His 'expose' was as false as the all the other crap the clone pussies 'created'.
Nothing but maggots and shit bugs in a hamster cage.
I did not get involved until 4 months after Dung Beetle's original research exposé. The Farm Tours thread began on 02/16/2005 at 14:09 before I was a member of CP. The first substantive post about Jim Rob, Electronic Orchard and Farm Tours was #2 on 02/16/2005 at 14:16 by Dung Beetle:
JimGod put together web sites for something called "Farm Tours" which included--in fact consisted mostly of--a Filipino Bride service. It was quite a racket. You booked a tour, were guaranteed to meet some available "brides" and then you could decide to marry them on the spot--with Farm Tours help--or come home without a wife.
The guy who ran the tour had a Filipino wife, IIRC, and wrote up a testimonial about what good and obedient wives they made.
This "Farm Tour" site was listed alongside other mail bride and sex tour sites on other sites.
Dung Beetle proceeded to explore the subject in multiple posts. When I arrived at CP, I saw the thread, gathered the research of Dung Beetle, and posted it in a single post, with step by step explanations of how the information could be obtained, with links enabling any interested person to replicate the process and see for him or her self. That was on 06/10/2005 at 20:34. It is on pages 185 thru 196 (of 242) of my PDF copy of the CP thread.
My opening paragraph credited Dung Beetle for his original research.
Much of this is previously covered in a series of posts and the first post credit appears to go to Dung Beetle. However, it seemed somewhat difficult to follow, probably especially so for anyone unfamiliar with where the information was coming from or how it was being mined. I have attempted to put it together here in a single post and explain the process so the less computer savvy member or lurker can follow it clearly. It shows how a single mouse click on the Farm Tours home page may take you to a mail order bride site, and provides pictures of some of the prospective brides. They note that it is not uncommon to have a 20, 30, or even 40 year age gap. A 40-year age gap would have a 59- year old traveling to the Phillipines to visit a teenage Filipina he has never met, with marriage in mind because he is attracted by the quality of her mind. Or something like that.
Of course, I included pictures of several of the prospective brides. This elicited the following as the very next post:
ARGH Posted 06/10/05 @ 20:52
To: Columbo
I am speechless. Thanks for the info. (Good grief, they are children!)
This was also covered in Coral Snake's Bites of the Week.
And the post after that:
DeanWormer Posted 06/10/05 @ 20:53
They are kids.
Robinson worked for a pimping chickenhawk service for the scum of the West Coast.
Hey, Jimmy, you sick, perverted f***...karma will get you one day, and not before time.
F*** You.
And the post after that:
golfmann Posted 06/10/05 @ 20:55
Good work...
You obviously condensed and captured the sleeze factor expertly.
The next:
ARGH Posted 06/10/05 @ 20:57
The more I find out about him......
(Wish I could take back every dollar I gave him!)
And one more:
Columbo Posted 06/10/05 @ 21:00
Who'll Break the Chain
(to Who'll Stop the Rain by CCR)
Scammers keep on coming, they're out to try their luck From Baltimore to Fresno, just grifting for a buck. Money keeps on pourin', a "woo-hoo" gets 'em hot Bots, they dig down deeper, to fill up Jimmy's pot.
Pedophiles and perverts, have their sick-ass needs Scumbags and assholes, they see the chance for greed Rim Job writes the software, worth its weight in gold Farm Tours tells the perverts, "We've got 'em twelve years old."
King of all the grifters, yeah Rim Job is the best Tithing for salvation, to Scam-a-Patriot, West. Money keeps on fallin', fallin' like the rain And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll break the chain?
It was also covered by one of Coral Snake's Bites of the Week:
Title: Coral Snake's Bites of the Week 18 (FReeper harpies Supporting Scooter, Wantagate Continues, Douggie back on Ebay again and ClownPosse returns to the Bites Radar.) Source: 00-Hotherp Reports URL Source: http://none Published: Aug 6, 2006 Author: Coral Snake Post Date: 2006-08-06 22:45:33 by Coral Snake Keywords: Wantagate, Perv Supporting Harpies, ClownPosse Returns Views: 49 Comments: 7
Coral Snake's Bites of the Week 18 (FReeper harpies Supporting Scooter, Wantagate Continues, Douggie back on Ebay again and ClownPosse returns to the Bites Radar.)
This week's bites deal with a veriety of topics. First is the continuance of Wantagate thanks to Shrubya's refusal to release even the token settlement of the matter agreed to through two Federal courts. The second is the continuind support for the pervert Neo-Con "Scooter" libby by the harpies at FreeRepublic, The third is doug from Upland returning to eBay showing the probable failure of last month's SnookerThon despite the green snookerbar and fake fireworks having shown up. Finally clownPosse returns to the Bites after their religation of Columbo/nolu chan to the ranks of "kookdom". As always Remember the KEY and enjoy.
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Bite Five --------------> Clown Posse
Clown Posse is getting back into the Bites radar with their recent placing in the "kook" catagory one of their best investegators, Columbo, known on other forums as nolu chan for exposing a probable case of ClownPosse libel. While at ClownPosse Columbo/nolu chan produced two of the three best investegations against FreeRepublic that the site was involved with, The exposure of "Never Never Land" as a dource of the inflation of FreeRepublic's membership (which led to my own theory of "Never Never Land" accounts under the control of JimRob and the Admin Mods as a probable source of the "Liberal "ZOT/Kitty" posts that FreeRepublic uses to to direct FreeRepublic's flamwe fighting tendencies away from each other) and the Proud Patriots scam that went on in the Freeper Cantten threads until it was exposed. (Mojo/Dung Beetle was largely responsible for the third which involved JimRob's webmastering for a Phillipina sex trade outfit before starting FR.)
What happened in the case that led to this bite however was that Columbo nolu chan exposed a possible libel at ClownPosse involving the Sinkspur/Catholic Deakon thread and decided to leave the site because of it. In a most JimRobbish manner ClownPosse went on the attack and once back on line started to place nolu chan/Columbo in ranks with their version of "kookdom" with the rest of us. I for one would welcome nolu chan and his proven investigative abilities to any site I would start up. Sorry ClownPosse you lost one of your best posters by sticking to a libelous story and that is worth two white persian cats.
Harrowup apparently is critical as this threatened the marketplace.
The credit for the exposé must go to Dung Beetle who went on to found Sweetness & Light in 2005 and won the CPAC Blog of the Year award in 2009.
Congratulations to Steve Gilbert of Sweetness & Light on being named CPAC's blog of the year. In a characteristically witty post, Steve discusses the awards ceremony to be held at CPAC's annual meeting in DC.
AT readers have known of Steve's amazing talents even before he started Sweetness & Light, as we had the honor of publishing his well-researched observations before he ventured out on his own. We regularly feature links to his outstanding work. Listeners to Rush Limbaugh have also become familiar with Steve's original insights via the show.
Steve Gilbert Receives the Conservative Blogger Award at CPAC 2009
You are still missing the fact that you never proved a damn thing and are also ignoring the fact that your pal Gilbert plagiarized absolutely everything he ever writes that is purported to be fact.
You never got over the fact that you just never made it in prime time and for good reason.
You're a joke; getting booted by the clone pussies for libel was the funniest yet for that bunch of maggots.
You are still missing the fact that you never proved a damn thing and are also ignoring the fact that your pal Gilbert plagiarized absolutely everything he ever writes that is purported to be fact.
You never got over the fact that you just never made it in prime time and for good reason.
You're a joke; getting booted by the clone pussies for libel was the funniest yet for that bunch of maggots.
You are just so full of crap. No facts, no links, just crap. You are still trying to put 291 into a dot-decimal IPA quartet.
I guess you are just jealous of Steve.
I was not booted off anywhere for libel. CP was hosting the libel. I was not booted off CP. I was not booted off the Snitz site and was never a member of the vBulletin site.
Thanks. Still, I am not concerned about the technical details of the Admiral's own statement and I doubt anyone else is, at this point as the discussion is stale. There is a clear issue about the Admiral's confrontation with calcon over a silly detail wherein Admiral harrowup is DEADWRONG, though.
harrowup quite obviously demonstrated he had no idea what he was talking about.
That is fairely typical even outside technical discussions.
Thanks. Still, I am not concerned about the technical details of the Admiral's own statement and I doubt anyone else is, at this point as the discussion is stale.
I'm just putting it to bed. Harrowup claimed I only post where I can't be hindered by facts.
And he only posts where he can't be hindered by facts. I made mincemeat of him once before so bring it on.
harrowup posted on 2011-08-11 22:15:41 ET
I took on the motley crew at CU and at TOAK, their home turf, after they handed out an invite. At both sites there was the formation of a puddle of pee followed by attempts to make the evidence disappear. Mercuria captured the CU 16-ton weight of fact before it quickly disappeared. They received a smackdown at LP as well.
I have been documenting that I presented facts. He can only present the usual crap with no link or source. When called upon to present something, anything, and back it up, he can't.
The passwords were guessed, they were stolen, they were the subject of a brute force attack, there was a hack, there was no hack. And then there was Nuclear Option Day, Pleased to disappoint you folks but you've been goofed again. Any shred of credibility was goofed away. It no longer exists. They should stop pretending they can challenge anyone on facts or credibility. The yukons have become a source of derision.
Here is an example of a whupping administered to me at ToaK.
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Posted by: I worship phony deacons Jan 17 2007, 10:49 AM
QUOTE (GirlyGirl @ Jan 17 2007, 09:00 AM)
While were on this topic, it seems that KennyBoy may have retired the Mastermind screen name. We all know that His Pompousness wouldn't have actually stopped posting there. Anyone wanna weigh in on who they think he's using as his new nick?
A tipster mentioned to me that they suspected Damsel (thanks LK!) but I also wondered about Avatarity. Any thoughts?
Interesting theory. Clown Posse took a bit of a beating at CP last summer after their site blew up. Then there was this brilliant bit of humiliation created by Nolu Chan
Note: All quotes taken from Clown Posse thread, "Closure Disclosures: An Open Letter to Mercuria," started on 7/24/2006 at 4:25 PM with last post on 8/2/2006 at 6:03 PM, and presented in chronological order.
MASTERMIND vs. MURDER, INC.
THREATS OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
Mastermind, 07-24-2006, 04:25 PM
They gathered in increasingly deeper caves and made threats about what they planned to do to CP. These included threats of physical violence. Yes, I have the evidence and know the names and locations of those making the threats.
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CHORUS
"Nice, MM." (PeeWeeElvis) "Excellent, informative post, MM." (Miss Parker) "MM, well done." (Farish) "Sounds like an unholy alliance formed between FR/PP'ers, former CP's with bad intentions, and OLAS's [Alan Keyes] grifting team." (Dances With Kooks) "Well done." (Weaver) "You rock MM!!" (LivingDeadGrrrl) "A quality post that will end the speculation and rock a few worlds." (Edward Teach) "Well done, sir! Clear, concise, informative." (Xuanxue/Dark Aspect) "Very well said MM!" (Payt211) "A Mastermind masterpiece. I am beyond impressed." (FU Sez Who) "I find this most disturbing. Regardless of the bad blood between the two sites, I don't remember EVER reading any threats of this nature by a Posse member towards a No!Namestan." (FU Sez Who)
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BULLETS AND A GUN
Mastermind, 07-31-2006, 09:18 PM
You got the tame version from the outer cave. The one in the deep cave, made moments earlier is even more ominous. Talked about supplying bullets and a gun.
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YOU AIN'T HEARD NUTHIN' YET
Mastermind, 08-01-2006 03:43 PM
You ain't heard nuthin', yet. Stay tuned...
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CHORUS
"Well, *I* am absolutely dumbfounded, flabbergasted, and speechless at what I'm seeing here. I had NO idea!" (ElkNotMoose) "No!, me either." (FU Sez Who) "I really, really want to see this." (Moonbatticus) "I find that reeeaaal interesting." (Currahee)
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THAT STUFF (Bullets & Gun) PALES IN COMPARISON....
Mastermind, 08-01-2006, 05:21 PM
Not too concerned, but if anything were to happen, plenty of people know where to look for my attackers. ...
But really, that stuff pales in comparison to the seriousness of something we're looking at now. We should have more to say once a certain email is answered. Or ignored.
You will be shocked and appalled, friends...
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CHORUS
"MM, I assume by this you mean ignoring it wouldn't be a good thing?" (Vigilante) "Appalled maybe; shocked???No! WAY" (FU Sez Who) "I hope HappyGoHorny isn't the one talking like a trailer park scuz, and threatening to whack you,MM." (OddJob)
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THE DARE
Mastermind, 08-01-2006, 05:59 PM
Oh yeah. Let 'em ignore the email and see what happens...
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CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY
Mastermind, 08-01-2006, 06:39 PM
Guys really...the threats in the cave were just a bunch of idiots mouthing off in a circle jerk. What's happened more recently is very likely criminal, and makes that stuff look like Ned and the First Reader. And some of the footprints are unmistakable. Only thing to be determined is how many co-conspirators there were. And we're working on that.
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CHORUS
"The suspense is killing me." (Miss Parker)
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SHOWDOWN SET FOR HIGH NOON
Mastermind, 08-01-2006, 06:49 PM
Don't feel cheated, Miss P. We've asked our representative to allow plenty of time for a response. Likely won't get one, tonight. If we haven't heard something by...oh let's say noon tomorrow, well...let's just say things could start getting a little ugly.
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CHORUS
"I will most assuredly be tuning in for that." (Moonbatticus) "It's having leaders like you, Vig... and Tiny, and MM, that keeps this family together and happy." (Damsel) "What she said. That trumps the jealous prattlings of Veronica/Jazzy/PaidEditor/languid/gentile-hater any time. (Miss Parker) This whole thing has me shocked and angry. ... And Vig, there are some people who are not just immature but mentally unstable..." (Sarcastic Cynic) "Sounds pretty ominous." (FU Sez Who)
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CUE MUSIC
I do not know what fate awaits me I only know I must be brave And I must face a man who hates me Or lie a coward, a craven coward Or lie a coward in my grave
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HIGH NOON
[Mastermind dons his spandex suit with the big "M" on it and goes out to meet the evildoers.]
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*** CRICKETS ***
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For hours, Mastermind stands out in the street, all by himself, in his spandex suit with the big "M" on it, waiting in vain for someone to pay attention to his dare. Finally Xuanxue comes to rescue him.
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Xuanxue, 08-02-2006, 03:45 PM
"It's a few hours after noon, CDT."
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Something must be done!! Mastermind has a plan!!! He sends another email, tightens the screws, and Double-Dares them not to answer it!!!!
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MASTERMIND DOUBLE-DARES THEM
Mastermind, 08-02-2006, 04:17 PM
Yep, and another message is about to be delivered that's going to tighten the screws. If this one gets ignored, the shit starts hitting the fan...
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Take that evildoers!!
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FU Sez Who, 08-02-2006, 04:19 PM
"Would they possibly come back and say they never got it??"
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BULLSHIT STORY -- THE GETAWAY
Mastermind, 08-02-2006, 05:44 PM
Possibly. Meanwhile, we've uncovered another angle we need to look at, so the latest missive is on hold...
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CHORUS
Dumpster Mumbler, 08-02-2006, 05:46 PM
When the whip comes down.... When the whip comes down.... When the shit hits the fan I'll be sittin' on the can When the whip comes down...
Miss Parker, 08-02-2006, 05:53 PM
"If something big breaks while I'm offline, I'll never forgive you."
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Third to last post on thread:
Mastermind, 08-02-2006, 05:58 PM
Rest easy, Miss P. Time is on our side.
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CHORUS
Next to last post on thread:
Dumpster Mumbler, 08-02-2006, 06:03 PM
'Cause I got the real love The kind that you need So you'll come runnin' back That you'll come runnin back You'll come runnin' back to me Time is on my side, yes it is Time is on my side, oh yes it is, baby
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Last post on thread:
Miss Parker, 08-03-2006, 06:20 PM
DM - I do believe you are a Stones fan.
[Rolling Stones tongue graphic]
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EPILOGUE
Because the second double-dare missive was placed on hold, the evildoers with guns and bullets, and things that make guns and bullets pale in comparison, gave up their homicidal mission. Fearing a triple-dare, the evildoers knew they had no chance.
Posted 09/02/2006 12:09:32 pm EDT by nolu_chan
Damn, doesn't that remind you of the yukons and Nuclear Option Day?
You just keep proving my point, motherjones. Making mincemeat of you has always been a simple case of watching you self indict. Slap-downs aren't necessary; your narratives lack originality to say the least.
To repeat. Your charade is over. No one cares. Except the sociopaths, and you've found a forum full of them just waiting for someone with the obsession and relentless spamming to take over from the management.
You just keep proving my point, motherjones. Making mincemeat of you has always been a simple case of watching you self indict. Slap-downs aren't necessary; your narratives lack originality to say the least.
Slap-downs of you are too easy because, when confronted with facts, you instantly turn into a warm puddle of piss, unable to say anything substantive. I understand they only keep an ass like you on a ship because a sheep would be too obvious.
Your series of repetitive rants almost reminds me of the time you raved on all night long to an empty yahoo anti-anti-freeper site.
The only difference I can determine, since I've not read either these rants or the ones on yahoo, is that the moon phase is not in your quarter and the time of day indicates you don't even go out during the day now.
You're in luck here though. With two exceptions, the lunatics here don't need the moon phase to influence their ignorance, bigotry and foul abusive conduct.
#328. To: calcon, buckeroo, etta alla da udders (#327)
thanks for bringing NC to LF admiral, you called him out
No Lettuce for Chew!
Sour Grapes Only!
#3 aka Stevie Dung Beetle & his Maggot Band.
[:~)]
Careful what you wish for boys; you know you've been made fools of before and this won't be the last time, but seriously, mojo the shit bug aka dung beetle etta alla da udders insists on total loyalty from his fans (3) and you must never interfere in his rants.
all the admiral can do is run his mouth and make idle threats.
everyone knows he's just a toothless blowhard.
Some old LP history from 2002. My first post on LP was on 03/11/2005. I wasn't Steve Gilbert/mojo then either.
Here are few highlights.
[428, Aligyrl] Good gawd, they've called in the king of disdimble! You know they're in dire straits when har-de-har-har-harrowup gets paged.
[437, mojo] Er, I'm not an attorney. (You might try Admiral/doctor/pilot/CEO/MBA and Yale trained lawyer, Harrowup.)
[535, harrowup] As far as John seeking the retraction of Mojo's libelous remarks I believe he is due the courtesy you have extended. But, beyond that, it is time for John to put up or shut up about libel. We have all tried to be helpful and defend the right of FR to operate without the interference of the afconistan spoilers, but to keep going from site to site and leveling the same charges against Mojo without ever actually taking the son of a bitch to the cleaners is getting really annoying.
[648, Birds Of A Feather]
Here's a précis of the action:
BobJ, John Robinson, and Reagan Girl of Free Republic attempt by threats to endanger the survival of LibertyPost.
These are primarily faux-legal threats, but the key point is that prominent names at Free Republic readily stoop to this level of attempted censorship. Not content that they heavily censor and chill their own forum, they actually have the temerity (and stupidity) to barge into the sites to which they have driven their own BEST writers in an attempt to censor THEM TOO!
Goldi-Lox and Neil McIver parry the Orwellian/neo- Bolshevik thrust from the Free Republic goons deftly indeed. In brilliant, measured prose these two champions of open debate unsword the Censors neatly.
A spritely, saucy crew of LibertyPosters rise to the alarum to aid in the defense of Open Debate. Eloquent assistance is proferred by LOTF, Mojo, 2Fat4FAB, RuxtonTowers, Abundy, t2 gal, Twodees, OWK, Sentry Over America, GalFromTheBay, christine, francisandbeans, CharltonHest, IAvet, SamSpade, and others.
A few odd types who seem to be FR groupies appear to bark, mewl, bay, and snort odd phrases that impress at FR but don't fly in an adult atmosphere like LibertyPost. I'll let someone more in the know give a tally of who these folks were. Names that seemed to appear (please correct me if I'm wrong here) were harrowup, Landshark, and oldvike.
[667, francisandbeans] You are either drunk or clueless. ... I'm opting for drunk because I beleive I saw you post something coherent once.
harrowup, posting drunk since 2002! Clueless since the day he was born.
Third string time!! Time for Unsycophant to lead in her merry pack of JJ- level trolls, for a night of namecalling and mudflinging and general discussion degeneration... all designed to drown us out, and distract you, the lurker, from hearing any more about FR.
Good gawd, they've called in the king of disdimble! You know they're in dire straits when har-de- har-har-harrowup gets paged.
aligyrl posted on 2002-07-15 21:07:31 ET ReplyTrace
Now that Landshark and Harrowup have finally showed up, will the conversation switch to those always entertaining topics such as admirals, King Air and the Isle of Mann?
Inquiring minds want to know.
SamSpade posted on 2002-07-15 22:31:04 ET ReplyTrace
We never planned to undermine Free Republic. But their actions have made this site much more visible, and now I don't know how big it will eventually get.
Whatever your politics, I wish you well. I have no intention of trashing your site with ad hominem retorts to the beta-gammas from afconistan. There isn't a single member there who should be trusted with any information at any time.
That said, I haven't a clue why BobJ came here looking for a fight; he never clears anything up even though I believe he means well.
As far as John seeking the retraction of Mojo's libelous remarks I believe he is due the courtesy you have extended.
But, beyond that, it is time for John to put up or shut up about libel. We have all tried to be helpful and defend the right of FR to operate without the interference of the afconistan spoilers, but to keep going from site to site and leveling the same charges against Mojo without ever actually taking the son of a bitch to the cleaners is getting really annoying.
My advice is worth the cost of this stamp but I would suggest you kick us all out and get on with meaningful discussions.
That said, goodbye and goodluck.
harrowup posted on 2002-07-15 23:13:01 ET ReplyTrace
#647. To: unsycophant, RuxtonTowers, Mojo, jjbrouwer, All (#0)
Okay folks, listen up.
First, I want to thank those that have voiced support for Liberty Post though this thread which can only be described as ugly. Please, please hang in there. We're 5-weeks, 2-days old at this point and barely have the rules, administrative tools, formal warning procedures etc in place to properly deal with what's going on. Thank you very much for your patience as we develop more tools and procedures to deal with this type of situation.
Second, I don't have time for a full discourse tonight, but I'll revisit this matter in more detail when I have time. I was out from about 4 PM till 11 PM this past evening, and have reviewed this thread. Some comments were made on this thread that were brought to my attention as being a violation of the few posting rules we have here. I have reviewed the thread in as much detail as feasible, and agree some comments made were overreaching.
Here is a list of the offenses made on this thread, the authoring screen name, comment number, and offense description, listed in comment number order:
RuxtonTowers 57 Overreaching and meritless insult Mojo 255 Disclosure of personal information (Resume) unsycophant 338 Overreaching vulgarity unsycophant 374 Overreaching vulgarity jjbrouwer 418 Overreaching vulgarity unsycophant 499 Overreaching vulgarity Mojo 562 Overreaching vulgarity
From the FAQ:
The goal of Liberty Post is to facilitate meaningful, formated communication among participants. This means allowing the expression of ideas from one person to many. Liberty Post will live up to its name by allowing the responsible sharing of views by each and every person. However (and you knew this was coming, right?), "meaningful, formated communication" is not possible in a free-for-all arena. We do insist that all posts be made responsibly. This means all posts should be coherent meaningful, that you will refrain from posting material which is solely intended to offend others, and avoid excessive use of profanity....
As manager of Liberty Post, it is my opinion that the comments pulled for "Overreaching Vulgarity" were intended NOT as a means of ommunicating a meaningful, debatable idea, but were instead intended to be offensive to the recipient and/or other readers of this forum.
unsycophant, I believe all of your offenses related to postings originating outside of Liberty Post. You were emailed previously regarding another thread where a similar practice was employed. However, I have not received any response from you. I take that to mean you have no additional thoughts to offer in support of this practice. I find that the vulgar content you copied to Liberty Post has no debate value to Liberty Post. If you wish to point out that vulgarities were made and discuss their implications, you may do so. I have no problem with that. However, copying them verbatim is obstructive to this forum. You are warned.
Mojo, I find your post of another's resume, while it did not contain any contact information and was made to support a point, was nontheless disclosure of personal identifying information. If the information is available on another web site, feel free to post a link.
I trust the remaining single vulgarity offenses need no additional explanation.
Also stricken were quoted responses to the offending posts. I do ask, please, that if you see such questionable material posted, that you avoid quoting in your response, as it saves me the trouble of striking them as well.
Obviously there is no shortage of name calling taking place on this thread. I am granting massive leeway in terms of insults, and only drawing the line when the message obstructs debate. I believe the cited vulgarity does obstruct the debate forum.
Again, I don't have time for a full discourse tonight, but please note that it is my estimation that the striken comments do not subtract in the least from the worthy content listed in this thread (However much there may actually be).
Again, I thank those that continue to support Liberty Post. I am determined to see this site through.
Neil McIver Manager, Liberty Post
Neil McIver posted on 2002-07-16 5:11:35 ET ReplyTrace
#648. To: Goldi-Lox,Neil McIver,Sentry Over America,BobJ,John Robinson,GalFromTheBay,christine,LOTF,Mojo,2Fat4FAB,RuxtonTowers,Abundy,t2 gal,Twodees,OWK,francisandbeans,CharltonHest,IAvet,SamSpade,ANV,oldvike,ThimbleRigger,harrowup,Landshark,Hmmmmm,unsycophant (#0)
It's the middle of the night, before dawn on Tuesday, and I've just finished reading and scanning all 642 posts to this amazing thread. You have to take in the broad sweep of what transpires over the length of the thread to appreciate how important it is.
Here's a précis of the action:
BobJ, John Robinson, and Reagan Girl of Free Republic attempt by threats to endanger the survival of LibertyPost.
These are primarily faux-legal threats, but the key point is that prominent names at Free Republic readily stoop to this level of attempted censorship. Not content that they heavily censor and chill their own forum, they actually have the temerity (and stupidity) to barge into the sites to which they have driven their own BEST writers in an attempt to censor THEM TOO!
Goldi-Lox and Neil McIver parry the Orwellian/neo- Bolshevik thrust from the Free Republic goons deftly indeed. In brilliant, measured prose these two champions of open debate unsword the Censors neatly.
A spritely, saucy crew of LibertyPosters rise to the alarum to aid in the defense of Open Debate. Eloquent assistance is proferred by LOTF, Mojo, 2Fat4FAB, RuxtonTowers, Abundy, t2 gal, Twodees, OWK, Sentry Over America, GalFromTheBay, christine, francisandbeans, CharltonHest, IAvet, SamSpade, and others.
A few odd types who seem to be FR groupies appear to bark, mewl, bay, and snort odd phrases that impress at FR but don't fly in an adult atmosphere like LibertyPost. I'll let someone more in the know give a tally of who these folks were. Names that seemed to appear (please correct me if I'm wrong here) were harrowup, Landshark, and oldvike.
I copied out a few comments that shaped the thrust & parry. Here are several:
See how this works Goldi? I told you to get rid of them. [referring to getting rid of posters that BobJ would like to see LibertyPost censor!] BobJ #60 -----------------
We do not censor posters on THIS site. We allow people to fight it out, figuring the best "man" will win, and the truth will eventually be revealed.....It should be apparent to you by now, that we operate quite differently than Free Republic. That is by design. Goldi-Lox #88 ----------------
...and this was supposed to accomplish what? [BobJ is referring to the establishment of Forums where those banned and chilled by Free Republic can post in freedom] BobJ #105 ----------------
To accomplish what??? I can't believe you said that! To give them the opportunity to have a forum, and open debate! Many of those banned were the BEST of Free Republic. It has suffered greatly by their loss. Articles are not posted, or are yanked. Only one side of an issue is examined. That's NOT free speech. That's what the major media does...selective censorship.
I missed the flame wars. I missed the heated discussions where I got involved and learned a lot. It is dull there now. I was getting bored. I rarely posted in the last year...I had nothing to say, since nothing peaked my interest. Here, nearly every comment makes you want to get involved. THAT's what we've accomplished. Goldi-Lox #116 ----------------------------------
Let me give all the definition of a hypocrite:
a hypocrite is one who pretends to be what he is not.
It is a fact, not libel, that Jim Robinson is a hypocrite. That can be proven with the banning of members that are documented and with the actual posts that were made. Members have been banned for expressing conservative thought, and since Free Republic is supposed to be a conservative site, that makes Jim Robinson a hypocrite (just one example). Sentry Over America #217 ---------------------
224. To: John Robinson (#209) Could you provide us with an analysis of the reasons for banishment of posters? It's clear you have it in a database. Anyone with a whit of knowledge could put that into a Pareto diagram so we all could see the top 5 reasons. I suspect that many of them have nothing to do with any of the published rules of the site. GalFromTheBay posted on 2002-07-15 10:58:43 ------------------------
Quite frankly Ive missed many of the now former FR posters like Mojo. The forum was always lively and fun when they were there and their absence left a hole [a BIG, BIG hole, my comment-Birds Of A Feather, one of the banees who was banned not for being a bad writed but for being too damned good] and Im not just talking about the flame wars. Lively debate on issues is a good thing even if you dont agree with the opinion of the poster [Forgive me for having to insert the comment: Duhhh! ]. ReaganGirl posted on 2002-07-15 13:06:57 -----------------------
324. To: ReaganGirl (#282) "If I'm not welcomed to post here then you should remove my posting privileges." ReaganGirl
WE do not remove postings, or posting privileges arbitrarily. You are too accustomed to the operations at another forum. Should you wish to have them removed, we will do so upon your request. The only other way to lose posting privileges is to break our rules, which are clearly laid out on the home page. So far, no one has. I made no comment to you. Why are you directing this comment at me? Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-07-15 17:57:26 ------------------------------
All in all, this has been a marvelous thread. It bares naked what's at stake on the Internet. A CENSORED world, or a FREE world.
Birds Of A Feather posted on 2002-07-16 5:27:37 ET
Work on your definitions and relax junior. You won't get a rise out of me here; I am too much in awe of all of you libs who love the constitution and liberty more than I could ever aspire...probably because I have to work too hard to pay the taxes that I don't claim are unconstitutional.
harrowup posted on 2002-07-16 9:28:55 ET ReplyTrace
The management here came accross a situation and put up a reminder and a bit of a disclaimer as to protect the liability of the forum and its participants.
I'm opting for drunk because I beleive I saw you post something coherent once.
francisandbeans posted on 2002-07-16 9:44:21 ET ReplyTrace
actually agreeing that she is a foul-mouthed old lady.
...it was ever so that the hamsters of afSS and afconistan would drop their stink bombs at UTA and then return to their restricted sewer and call the 'trolls' obscene obsession with vulgarity mochajoke proof that trolls were trailer trash.
Neil and Francis have bought into A Rat or similar rodent's view that Eschoir and Mojo are good draws, especially if John & Bob show up...we know what happened to Reunion after that.
harrowup posted on 2002-07-16 10:04:19 ET ReplyTrace
We could argue about this forever, but you are far too anal to be an enjoyable interlude.
1. Liberty Post is officially an anti-freeper site.
2. Nobody cares.
Blah blah blah, the great Harrowup is the one who decides what is pro and what is anti freeper. Blather
Seeing as you post here, and you are trying to get a log on for Liberty Forum, in your logic, you are an anti-freeper too.
Nobody cares...got that right, nobody gives a damn about whatever you do on FR, its your little gulag..enjoy living over there. I'll take a site that still remembers what the "Free" used to mean at FR.
This site is great, it is obviously scaring the PTB at FR, and a little competition is a GOOD thing. (flying monkeys and all)
Central Scrutiniser posted on 2002-07-16 10:32:56 ET ReplyTrace
As previously stated it only proves your [nolu chan] failure to ever get anything right even when you have plagiarized the result.
I took a wee bit of time to review some of our communication exchanges from LP from 2003 and on in time; I am fairely sure that we have had similar exchanges on FR before I got the ZOT; I shall review those too.
But, you were a BUSHBOT MAXIMOSIS! Man, you are for GWBUSH; you are for illegal immigrants invading this country; no wonder you got along with Jim Robinson with the exception of your snide remarcks and vicious attacks.
You backed the Iraqi War effort in 2003! I shall (as I have time) produce some of our exchanges. You are a HOOT! This is going to be a fun day!
But, you were a BUSHBOT MAXIMOSIS! Man, you are for GWBUSH; you are for illegal immigrants invading this country; no wonder you got along with Jim Robinson with the exception of your snide remarcks and vicious attacks.
And as an FR shill, he joined flying monkeys spewing nonsense about Neil. Far from a jackbooted thug, he would seem to be a Libertarian. It seems the only argument this screwup has is that others are part of some psycho cult.
You're a piece of work, sours. You delete unsycophant's post quoting aligyrl's vulgarity...and you find accusations of doing a monica were not specific enough...
You have allowed so much BS from the Afer crowd there isn't a chance in hell you're going to survive as anything but a site for Cal to have a soap-box and the afers a place to get some face time with her...now that she isn't a cow.
harrowup posted on 2002-07-20 7:23:50 ET ReplyTrace
From: harrowup Date: Sat Jul 13, 2002 3:24 pm Subject: Re: Liberty Post
Another 'government sucks' group claiming that no one else loves liberty or the constitution more than they do...and everyone else is not really a conservative.
With any luck, the beta-gammas will manage to destroy it and then move over to Liberty Forum in order to REALLY get their butts kicked.
Will they EVER learn that their chain has been yanked so long and so thoroughly that it no longer has links? I guess that is why they ctd's so poorly.
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It's clear you have this forum's best interests at heart, Admiral.
...stream of unconsciousness is siphoned from the entropy pool?
No Lettuce for Chew!
Sour Grapes Only!
#3 aka Stevie Dung Beetle & his Maggot Band.
There you go again. Plagiarizing a concise thought and then by making a positive a negative turning a reasonable philosophical theory into a jargon rich pile of dung.
BASIC? ASCII v. HTML? I think not. You've pasted so much dung you overlooked your understanding of the incident up thread.
We're still waiting for your narrative on how contradictions confirm collusion...
As you are unwilling to address your yukon disaster, you could always address the Orly filing with your Yale knowledge. That should be fun.
Stealing the hamster wheel is okay. Your's has got to be worn out.
If your Orly investigation, cough, cough, is as ludicrous as your failure to explain how contradictions prove a conspiracy then she should be in pretty good shape. Been to Yale, never studied there. Met with their forensics teams many, many times and even they hadn't gone to Yale Law.
Fred, I'm backing away from this half-wit; I never feel very funny when sad news takes over.