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Title: Welcome Nolu Chan
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Published: Aug 11, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-08-11 17:46:58 by A K A Stone
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Views: 417971
Comments: 437

Welcome Nolu Chan.

Hey be nice everybody.

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#303. To: socalv8 (#301)

How did the "Goldi is Dead!" thread fit in?

To create the further illusion of a wholesale LP "hacking" taking place.

I even recall some lunatic poster named 'Thompson such and such' unleashing incoherent rants about "Thompson" fella. Again, this was IMO another anomaly designed to give the impression of a "hacked" forum at the time as cover for the original gay outing.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-17   17:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: socalv8, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#301)
(Edited)

How did the "Goldi is Dead!" thread fit in?

It was intended to promote the impression that the site was under attack. Hackers to the left, hackers to the right... so yukon's not gay. An ultra-lame story, since it was just an account created for the Goldi Dead story, and not a hack at all.

Really Gatlin and the yuklowns used yukons password which he gave them, to login under HideMyAss and other proxies, to make it look more like a hack. A virtual, phony hack, cover up attempt. They had to blame someone, so they blamed anyone who questioned the hacker story.

IMO


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-17   17:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: hondo68, socalv8, buckeroo, nolu chan (#304)

It was intended to promote the impression that the site was under attack. Hackers to the left, hackers to the right... so yukon's not gay. An ultra-lame story, since it was just an account created for the Goldi Dead story, and not a hack at all.

My impression as well; You did a better job of explaining it.

Really Gatlin and the yuklowns used yukons password which he gave them, to login under HideMyAss and other proxies, to make it look more like a hack. A virtual, phony hack, cover up attempt. They had to blame someone, so they blamed anyone who questioned the hacker story.

That's pretty good.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-17   17:49:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: Liberator, calcon, Gatlin (#299)

Doesn't this post by Gatlin indicate that he'd already been privy to the access 'yukon's' handle at the time of the "outing"?

It portrays an unusual but clear modis operandi for the entire scenario; as I recall that thread, calcon drew out that remarck from Gatlin with relative ease; it was on a Sunday morning and I am confident that Gatlin had his faire share of inbibing some good stuff the night before. So, with his own hangover close to delirium tremens (but not quite) he wanders over here on LF and to use a proverbial classic cliché, Gatlin: let the cat out of the bag.

To answer your question, of course it does. It also infers a backchannel of communications between the LP Kloaughns. Since, Goldi doesn't permit PM on LP, they have a conspiracy going on, perhaps raging against ALL posters of their dislike.

That he and the yukons seduced and fooled Goldi as they tried to sell a fake "I wuz hacked" fairy tale to two forums?

Don't forget our own esteemed channel boss, A K A Stone. To this day, he still thinks I "hacked" the infamous "yukon" character.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-17   18:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: hondo68, socalV8, Liberator, nolu chan (#304)

It was intended to promote the impression that the site was under attack. Hackers to the left, hackers to the right... so yukon's not gay. An ultra-lame story, since it was just an account created for the Goldi Dead story, and not a hack at all.

Don't forget the infamous thread by 22rifle about some sort of nonsense, We are in Control or some other silly notion.

I thought that thread was an all time hit! It is a Classic!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-17   18:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: Liberator, anyone (#305)

What I would really like to understand is WHY? Why in the world do these people, (or person) spend so much time and energy protecting a screen name? No one knows the real yukon- or is threatening to out the real person behind the screen name. Is this fun for hup and the yukons? Is it all just a stoopid game?

I don't get it. Why are these people so demented? It's a screen name. It is not like the yukon character was a pillar of morality and kindness BEFORE the link.

What, do you think, is the purpose of all of this?

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-08-17   19:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: diva betsy ross (#308)

No one knows the real yukon- or is threatening to out the real person behind the screen name.

The assumption that it is one (1) person may not be correct.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-17   19:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: buckeroo (#293)

Here is the REAL conspiracy .....

#19. To: calcon (#15)

The gay link was never posted to show that yukon was a homo ... the gay link was posted to draw out and expose posters like you.

It is doing that ...

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-24 11:10:49

Correct. That functions as an admission that there was no hack, no theft — it maintains the gay link was posted purposefully by the yukons. They could get all confused about passwords because they ALL had the password and they ALL used the community account.

The purposeful posting grope was the story of last resort after the hacker and password theft story fell apart, and the password guess required two miraculous guesses and became comical.

btw, before the LP braintrust declared I was mojo/Steve Gilbert, another LP braniac declared over and over that I was a Burmese lawyer named Dennis Kaw.

I'm not Kaw either. Kaw was the JAG lawyer who prosecuted and convicted this particular brainiac. This is another example of stupidity and a vivid imagination at work. Then the FBI was sent a letter (page 1/page 2), put up on Orly's blog, about an imaginary cyber crime stating:

"Mr. Nolu Chan is believed to be Dennis Kaw, of Denver, Colorado . Who presumably is with the law firm of Fisher, Sweetbaum, Levin, and Sancs, P.C. 1125, 17th Street, Suite 2100, Denver, Colorado. 303 296-3377.

Thank you. Please take this information under consideration and if warranted, investigate the above. In closing, I request, unless absolutely necessary, to remain anonymous."

I believe somebody called Dennis Kaw and he did not know what the hell they were talking about. I'll bet he remembers meathead though.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=273419&Disp=6#C6

#6. To: All (#0)

POSTER "NOLU CHAN"--(DISGRACED AIR FORCE CAPTAIN DENNIS KAW) ----I notice you have nothing to say about these cases!!!

Perhaps this is why--- http://www.militarycorruption.com/soundoff4.htm

Here's what Nolu Chan (dennis kaw) looks like http://www.fslpc.com/sap/37.php

Ewwww! A geek! He looks just like a snake!

Tea Party Reveler  posted on  2009-09-16   0:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace  

Before this genius was Tea Party Reveler, he was handled as Idol Hanz until he was banned.

He's as dumb as harrowup, but he was persistent, just not very good at target acquisition.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=278213

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Title: LP SITE RULES: NEW FOCUS on implementation effective immediatly
Source: LP Mgmt
URL Source: http://none
Published: Nov 14, 2009
Author: Goldi
Post Date: 2009-11-14 17:40:46 by Goldi-Lox

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Former clown posse members are NOT welcome here. Please leave on your own. Or as soon as you are outted by those here who hate you, you will removed.

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I will not be discussing this further. It is what it is.

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#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0)

I guess this means I can't threaten to beat up disgraced former Air Force Captain JAG lawyer BURMESE Dennis Kaw (Nolu Chan) anymore. He hates Orly and us. He lies, cheats, steals and is dishonorable by any definition of the word.

Kaw (sounds like a nuisance black bird to me) is NOT loyal to the USA.

Tea Party Reveler posted on 2009-11-14 17:46:15 ET Reply Trace

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-17   19:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: Liberator (#302)

On April 10th, Gatlin asserted that his explanation is, as it has been from day two ... yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password on both LP and LF. That was, of course, blasted by the quoted post of yukon from April 1st that he [yukon] DID NOT use the same password.

Credibility: ZERO

It is also indicative that they were using community accounts with a common password. A little white lie on 4/1 about using good security (enhancing the hacker story of that moment) was later stumbled over by Gatlin with the password(s) guess story.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-17   19:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: buckeroo (#306)

as I recall that thread, calcon drew out that remarck from Gatlin with relative ease; it was on a Sunday morning and I am confident that Gatlin had his faire share of inbibing some good stuff the night before.

one sunday morning is right, tater and I got into a big pissing with insults flying back and forth, and looks like tater blew it big time.

Unfortunately, stone was pissed at the the constant bickering going on and starting deleting all off topic posts and told us both to cut the crap out, so that's how it got deleted.

Enough of us made a copy of that post prior to the deletion to preserve it.

calcon  posted on  2011-08-17   20:00:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: diva betsy ross (#308) (Edited)

Why in the world do these people, (or person) spend so much time and energy protecting a screen name?

no kidding, since they all have been caught using other alias.

Personally if someone did that to me, i'd be laughing my ass off at what a great prank it was. Likewise, if i'd pulled it off, i would be bragging to the world about it.

The yukons cracks me up about something illegal taking place. Hell, no court in the world would listen to nonsense like that.

calcon  posted on  2011-08-17   20:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: nolu chan (#309)

They might be worried about karma. You know- they might be worried that what they have done to others, will be done to them.

Must stink to always be looking over their shoulder like that. I suspect a little stress disorder is something they have to live with, and could account for some of the erratic behavior.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-08-17   20:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: nolu chan (#310)

I was once asked by one of the LP Kloaughns why I hated "Goldi" or "yukon" or LP. I answered: that I don't, I just want my money back.

But there is a question that stands out in contrast that I want to ask both Gatlin and harrowup. Why do you two folks HATE posters that don't agree with you?

It is a freak show on LP similar to FR anymore because of the LP Kloaughns. That channel wants to accomplish nothing other than spreading gossip, rumours and speculation AND the LP Kloaughns displace rational debate, careful consideration or even the revelation of new data that may have impact upon an opinion. It is far too easy for many to play with a method of speculation which (when left to itself) inevitably leads to a witch-hunt.

Still, it is all in good fun or at minimum, should be in good fun to exchange ideas.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-17   20:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: socalv8 (#298)

From the Stadium, the area you go through to get to the tall buildings of Downtown. I don't know the name...Ghettoland?

If you went from the stadium to downtown on International Blvd. you went through a pretty rough area of East Oakland. The area spans several geographic/ethnic neighborhoods but is generally called 'indian country' by civilians.

Geez...I hope you weren't sporting any Dodger blue.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-17   20:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: socalv8 (#297)

Google leaves me unsure of the area...got a link? I'm interested.

It's where the world's first ski races were held. And there's not one ski lift in the whole area.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-18   0:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: Liberator, buckeroo, calcon (#299)

Doesn't this post by Gatlin indicate that he'd already been privy to the access 'yukon's' handle at the time of the "outing"?

Also, ask yourself when people were guessing two different passwords with yukon? There can be no valid time. The sole source of password information was the account holder of yukon. If the guessing occurred any time before the 4/10 claim, the guesser should have learned before the 4/10 claim that there were two different passwords. If the guesses were any time after the 4/1 claim, Gatlin had no source for his conflicting claim, other than his own personal knowledge. If he knew the password(s), any guessing would have to be a B.S. story.

I believe the likely explanation is that the 4/1 claim was false, and the revision of reality was not effectively communcated to the team of yukons. One of them, unaware on 4/10 that he had a lie to perpetuate, screwed the pooch by truthfully claiming the same password was used on both sites. Because of the 4/1 claim, the mythical yukon account holder could not have been the source of that information. That indicates a shared password community account.

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-18   1:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: buckeroo (#315)

But there is a question that stands out in contrast that I want to ask both Gatlin and harrowup. Why do you two folks HATE posters that don't agree with you?

I don't believe they feel any hate about it. The other posters are irrelevant except as targets; there is no emotion involved. With a community handle it is possible to have a team of operators punching a clock and working shifts, especially if a government sponsors it. Whether a sponsored group, or a group of individuals disrupting for sport (like a cat with a toy mouse), they couldn't care less about the other posters. They work to push buttons to bring anger out from other people. They sort of strive to make the target so mad he doesn't think straight.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-18   1:45:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: nolu chan (#319) (Edited)

I don't believe they feel any hate about it

The term, "hate" is not used loosely. The Israelis have already deemed me a "HATER." That was through their well-orchestrated websites when I ran March for Liberty, back in both 1999 and 2000.

OOPPSS, I forgot to mention the ADL HATED me and others.

The other posters are irrelevant except as targets; there is no emotion involved. With a community handle it is possible to have a team of operators punching a clock and working shifts, especially if a government sponsors it. Whether a sponsored group, or a group of individuals disrupting for sport (like a cat with a toy mouse), they couldn't care less about the other posters. They work to push buttons to bring anger out from other people. They sort of strive to make the target so mad he doesn't think straight.

Well, some of us actually fight back; it isn't necessarily on chit-chat channels, either. And, MANY REMEMBER!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-18   2:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: mininggold (#317)

It's where the world's first ski races were held. And there's not one ski lift in the whole area.

Longboard skiing miners...Cool.
Almost looks like a 22YukGatUp brainstorming session.

Harrowup looks ready to barf.

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-18   2:09:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: buckeroo (#307)

Don't forget the infamous thread by 22rifle about some sort of nonsense, We are in Control or some other silly notion.

22r then bugged out for spell...Guilty of the premature link pasting on the communal account?

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-18   2:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: buckeroo (#320)

The term, "hate" is not used loosely. The Israelis have already deemed me a "HATER." ...

Well, some of us actually fight back; it isn't necessarily on chit-chat channels, either. And, MANY REMEMBER!

You are correct. If you effectively fight back, they develop a real mean streak. Informative threads, such as this, tend to tick them off.

In my experience, I have not had an issue with Israelis generally, but with Zionist wingnuts. For them everyone is anti-semitic unless they express unquestioning support for everything the Israeli government wants. I feel U.S. foreign policy should favor the best interests of the U.S.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-18   2:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: nolu chan (#323)

I feel U.S. foreign policy should favor the best interests of the U.S.

Well, how about that! Further proof that you aren't aloof to the issues around us [not that you are].

Wouldn't it be almost a pristine condition if American government created policies that centered upon AMERICANS as opposed to every Tom and Dick & Harry about the world? The idea is too cutting edge for many, while I see the rising of blood on the streets for and about the atrocious international policies of American government.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-18   2:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: nolu chan (#323)

In my experience, I have not had an issue with Israelis generally, but with Zionist wingnuts.

I tend to agree. Yet, the Zionists control America; it is undeniable as America devotes precious resources to serve Israel while not defending our own US borders.

Zionists control almost every facet of America today, too: from American banking, to patting down nuns in US airports, to pretending the drug war can be fought with a pile of idiots that spread the sales of arms into Mexico.

Zionists wrote the US Patriot Act; Zionists created the GWBush Iraqi War; Zionists made BILLIONS off electronic scanners in US airports.

Yeah, I tend to agree. They are rather benign to most of us.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-18   3:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#326. To: nolu chan, etta alla da udders (#292)

[snip]...too obvious.

No Lettuce for Chew!

Sour Grapes Only!

#3 aka Stevie Dung Beetle & his Maggot Band.

Your series of repetitive rants almost reminds me of the time you raved on all night long to an empty yahoo anti-anti-freeper site.

The only difference I can determine, since I've not read either these rants or the ones on yahoo, is that the moon phase is not in your quarter and the time of day indicates you don't even go out during the day now.

You're in luck here though. With two exceptions, the lunatics here don't need the moon phase to influence their ignorance, bigotry and foul abusive conduct.

It is to laugh. Guffaw. Guffaw.

harrowup  posted on  2011-08-18   7:40:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: harrowup (#326)

T Reply Trace Private Reply #3. To: calcon (#2)

i sure hope he starts posting over here, i've been following his posts for years, entertaining and well researched.

You would. His ridiculous conspiracy theories are only slightly more insane than Orly.

Charlie Chan's #3 Idiot son, no luck chuck.

harrowup posted on 2011-08-11 18:11:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

thanks for bringing NC to LF admiral, you called him out and now you cower over at LP waiting for gatlin to get out of rehab to protect you.

another EPIC FAIL on your part

calcon  posted on  2011-08-18   8:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#328. To: calcon, buckeroo, etta alla da udders (#327)

thanks for bringing NC to LF admiral, you called him out

No Lettuce for Chew!

Sour Grapes Only!

#3 aka Stevie Dung Beetle & his Maggot Band.

[:~)]

Careful what you wish for boys; you know you've been made fools of before and this won't be the last time, but seriously, mojo the shit bug aka dung beetle etta alla da udders insists on total loyalty from his fans (3) and you must never interfere in his rants.

You have until labor day to get off the wheel.

After that you're on your own.

harrowup  posted on  2011-08-18   11:07:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#329. To: harrowup (#328)

old man begone, or I'll take your cane away from you and chastise you with it.

Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!

continental op  posted on  2011-08-18   11:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#330. To: harrowup, calcon, nolu chan (#328)

calcon: thanks for bringing NC to LF admiral, you called him out

the Admiral: Careful what you wish for boys; you know you've been made fools of before and this won't be the last time, but seriously, mojo the shit bug aka dung beetle etta alla da udders insists on total loyalty from his fans (3) and you must never interfere in his rants.

calcon is correct, you egged nc on from the top of the thread. Lets briefly review:

#3. To: calcon (#2)

i sure hope he starts posting over here, i've been following his posts for years, entertaining and well researched.

You would. His ridiculous conspiracy theories are only slightly more insane than Orly.

Charlie Chan's #3 Idiot son, no luck chuck.

harrowup posted on 2011-08-11 18:11:33 ET

You begged for a showdown. And throughout the thread, you have so little to add that most everyone has written you off into obscurity. You can't defend yourself.

You have until labor day to get off the wheel.

All, I see is yourself playing around after you decide to quick suckling your goat utters and with animated graphics, no less. Are you setting up LF for another "nuclear option?" Oh boy, this is going to be fun!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-18   14:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#331. To: buckeroo (#330)

calcon is correct, you egged nc on from the top of the thread.

No Lettuce for Chew!

Sour Grapes Only!

#3 aka Stevie Dung Beetle & his Maggot Band.

Nay, you dumbass [:~)].

Been poking at #3 ever since he started his crusade against yukon & Gatlin.

mochajoke, dung-beetle, shit bug, queen of the maggots is as always a day late and a dollar short.

Still that is faster than you morons.

Ca...ching.

harrowup  posted on  2011-08-18   15:06:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#332. To: harrowup (#326)

And it's another content-free post from the nitwit who lacks the balls or brains to discuss the issues.

The clueless gasbag thinks that if he repeats his mantra enough, Steve Gilbert (mojo/Dung Beetle) will suddenly appear.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-18   15:36:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#333. To: calcon, buckeroo, harrowup (#328)

Careful what you wish for boys; you know you've been made fools of before...

Not to worry men, harrowup is only capable of continuing to make a fool of himself.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-18   15:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#334. To: buckeroo, calcon, nolu chan, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#330)

You have until labor day to get off the wheel.

setting up LF for another "nuclear option"

Beware of jihadi goat herders with rusty scimitars. Don't lose your head!

Maybe DHS sec Nappylatino is right about those white domestic terrorists?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-18   16:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#335. To: harrowup (#328)

You have until labor day to get off the wheel.

After that you're on your own.

don't be such a little bitch, admiral.

you going to do something, DO IT NOW

i'm calling your bluff assclown, DO IT.

calcon  posted on  2011-08-18   17:06:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#336. To: nolu chan, buckeroo, harrowup (#333)

all the admiral can do is run his mouth and make idle threats.

everyone knows he's just a toothless blowhard.

calcon  posted on  2011-08-18   17:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#337. To: calcon, buckeroo, harrowup (#336)

all the admiral can do is run his mouth and make idle threats.

everyone knows he's just a toothless blowhard.

Some old LP history from 2002. My first post on LP was on 03/11/2005. I wasn't Steve Gilbert/mojo then either.

Here are few highlights.

[428, Aligyrl] Good gawd, they've called in the king of disdimble! You know they're in dire straits when har-de-har-har-harrowup gets paged.

[437, mojo] Er, I'm not an attorney. (You might try Admiral/doctor/pilot/CEO/MBA and Yale trained lawyer, Harrowup.)

[535, harrowup] As far as John seeking the retraction of Mojo's libelous remarks I believe he is due the courtesy you have extended. But, beyond that, it is time for John to put up or shut up about libel. We have all tried to be helpful and defend the right of FR to operate without the interference of the afconistan spoilers, but to keep going from site to site and leveling the same charges against Mojo without ever actually taking the son of a bitch to the cleaners is getting really annoying.

[648, Birds Of A Feather]

Here's a précis of the action:

  • BobJ, John Robinson, and Reagan Girl of Free Republic attempt by threats to endanger the survival of LibertyPost.
    • These are primarily faux-legal threats, but the key point is that prominent names at Free Republic readily stoop to this level of attempted censorship. Not content that they heavily censor and chill their own forum, they actually have the temerity (and stupidity) to barge into the sites to which they have driven their own BEST writers in an attempt to censor THEM TOO!
  • Goldi-Lox and Neil McIver parry the Orwellian/neo- Bolshevik thrust from the Free Republic goons deftly indeed. In brilliant, measured prose these two champions of open debate unsword the Censors neatly.
  • A spritely, saucy crew of LibertyPosters rise to the alarum to aid in the defense of Open Debate. Eloquent assistance is proferred by LOTF, Mojo, 2Fat4FAB, RuxtonTowers, Abundy, t2 gal, Twodees, OWK, Sentry Over America, GalFromTheBay, christine, francisandbeans, CharltonHest, IAvet, SamSpade, and others.
  • A few odd types who seem to be FR groupies appear to bark, mewl, bay, and snort odd phrases that impress at FR but don't fly in an adult atmosphere like LibertyPost. I'll let someone more in the know give a tally of who these folks were. Names that seemed to appear (please correct me if I'm wrong here) were harrowup, Landshark, and oldvike.

[667, francisandbeans] You are either drunk or clueless. ... I'm opting for drunk because I beleive I saw you post something coherent once.

harrowup, posting drunk since 2002! Clueless since the day he was born.


http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=404#C404

#404. To: lindam (#371)

To: Mojo

Oh c'mon Steve, compared to your 13 hour MELTDOWN in that Yahoo! chat room, his opus is "Bye Bye".

Why don't you come back when there are some adults available to discuss the meat and potatoes issues?

These 7th grade-level chuckleheads are just trying to distract you and drown out the message.

Trying to distract from the message?

The message from the web administrator was informing mochajoke that he had some issues he needed to clear up with John.

The message is that mochajoke has libeled and slandererd John and mochajoke has denied that he has ever done so.

That is a lie. Mochajoke has libeled and slandered John, his business and his personal relationships.

So that is the message. Not mochajoke's whirl.

Disdimble.

harrowup  posted on  2002-07-15   20:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=414#C414

#414. To: jjbrouwer (#407)

Mojo is in denial.

Mochajoke's attorney, Allen Dragoavitch, has told him to cling to the technicality that Mochajoke didn't write that about you and Eschoir.

That was Nic...and before it was Judge Morrow and itzatz ratskywaatsky and all the other smithers.

harrowup  posted on  2002-07-15   20:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=428#C428

#428. To: lindam (#412)

Third string time!! Time for Unsycophant to lead in her merry pack of JJ- level trolls, for a night of namecalling and mudflinging and general discussion degeneration... all designed to drown us out, and distract you, the lurker, from hearing any more about FR.

Good gawd, they've called in the king of disdimble! You know they're in dire straits when har-de- har-har-harrowup gets paged.

aligyrl  posted on  2002-07-15   21:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=429#C429

#429. To: aligyrl (#428)

You know they're in dire straits when har-de- har-har-harrowup gets paged.

Caligirl: I assumed you called him.

Can you also get Landshark to call that anti-British d*ckhead quidnunc so we will have the full team of loonies here?

jjbrouwer  posted on  2002-07-15   21:09:47 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=437#C437

#437. To: Goldi-Lox (#432)

If there are any lawyers out there, I'd appreciate your impression of the situation as described.

Er, I'm not an attorney. (You might try Admiral/doctor/pilot/CEO/MBA and Yale trained lawyer, Harrowup.)

But given their now fulfilled threat coupled with JohBoy's bogus libel threats could be seen by some to be "tortious interference."

You wouldn't be the first. (Or probably the last.)

Mojo  posted on  2002-07-15   21:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=502#C502

#502. To: harrowup (#404)

Now that Landshark and Harrowup have finally showed up, will the conversation switch to those always entertaining topics such as admirals, King Air and the Isle of Mann?

Inquiring minds want to know.

SamSpade  posted on  2002-07-15   22:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=535#C535

#535. To: Goldi-Lox (#508)

We never planned to undermine Free Republic. But their actions have made this site much more visible, and now I don't know how big it will eventually get.

Whatever your politics, I wish you well. I have no intention of trashing your site with ad hominem retorts to the beta-gammas from afconistan. There isn't a single member there who should be trusted with any information at any time.

That said, I haven't a clue why BobJ came here looking for a fight; he never clears anything up even though I believe he means well.

As far as John seeking the retraction of Mojo's libelous remarks I believe he is due the courtesy you have extended.

But, beyond that, it is time for John to put up or shut up about libel. We have all tried to be helpful and defend the right of FR to operate without the interference of the afconistan spoilers, but to keep going from site to site and leveling the same charges against Mojo without ever actually taking the son of a bitch to the cleaners is getting really annoying.

My advice is worth the cost of this stamp but I would suggest you kick us all out and get on with meaningful discussions.

That said, goodbye and goodluck.

harrowup  posted on  2002-07-15   23:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=647#C647

#647. To: unsycophant, RuxtonTowers, Mojo, jjbrouwer, All (#0)

Okay folks, listen up.

First, I want to thank those that have voiced support for Liberty Post though this thread which can only be described as ugly. Please, please hang in there. We're 5-weeks, 2-days old at this point and barely have the rules, administrative tools, formal warning procedures etc in place to properly deal with what's going on. Thank you very much for your patience as we develop more tools and procedures to deal with this type of situation.

Second, I don't have time for a full discourse tonight, but I'll revisit this matter in more detail when I have time. I was out from about 4 PM till 11 PM this past evening, and have reviewed this thread. Some comments were made on this thread that were brought to my attention as being a violation of the few posting rules we have here. I have reviewed the thread in as much detail as feasible, and agree some comments made were overreaching.

Here is a list of the offenses made on this thread, the authoring screen name, comment number, and offense description, listed in comment number order:

RuxtonTowers 57 Overreaching and meritless insult
Mojo 255 Disclosure of personal information (Resume)
unsycophant 338 Overreaching vulgarity
unsycophant 374 Overreaching vulgarity
jjbrouwer 418 Overreaching vulgarity
unsycophant 499 Overreaching vulgarity
Mojo 562 Overreaching vulgarity

From the FAQ:

The goal of Liberty Post is to facilitate meaningful, formated communication among participants. This means allowing the expression of ideas from one person to many. Liberty Post will live up to its name by allowing the responsible sharing of views by each and every person. However (and you knew this was coming, right?), "meaningful, formated communication" is not possible in a free-for-all arena. We do insist that all posts be made responsibly. This means all posts should be coherent meaningful, that you will refrain from posting material which is solely intended to offend others, and avoid excessive use of profanity....

As manager of Liberty Post, it is my opinion that the comments pulled for "Overreaching Vulgarity" were intended NOT as a means of ommunicating a meaningful, debatable idea, but were instead intended to be offensive to the recipient and/or other readers of this forum.

unsycophant, I believe all of your offenses related to postings originating outside of Liberty Post. You were emailed previously regarding another thread where a similar practice was employed. However, I have not received any response from you. I take that to mean you have no additional thoughts to offer in support of this practice. I find that the vulgar content you copied to Liberty Post has no debate value to Liberty Post. If you wish to point out that vulgarities were made and discuss their implications, you may do so. I have no problem with that. However, copying them verbatim is obstructive to this forum. You are warned.

Mojo, I find your post of another's resume, while it did not contain any contact information and was made to support a point, was nontheless disclosure of personal identifying information. If the information is available on another web site, feel free to post a link.

I trust the remaining single vulgarity offenses need no additional explanation.

Also stricken were quoted responses to the offending posts. I do ask, please, that if you see such questionable material posted, that you avoid quoting in your response, as it saves me the trouble of striking them as well.

Obviously there is no shortage of name calling taking place on this thread. I am granting massive leeway in terms of insults, and only drawing the line when the message obstructs debate. I believe the cited vulgarity does obstruct the debate forum.

Again, I don't have time for a full discourse tonight, but please note that it is my estimation that the striken comments do not subtract in the least from the worthy content listed in this thread (However much there may actually be).

Again, I thank those that continue to support Liberty Post. I am determined to see this site through.

Neil McIver
Manager, Liberty Post

Neil McIver  posted on  2002-07-16   5:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=648#C648

#648. To: Goldi-Lox,Neil McIver,Sentry Over America,BobJ,John Robinson,GalFromTheBay,christine,LOTF,Mojo,2Fat4FAB,RuxtonTowers,Abundy,t2 gal,Twodees,OWK,francisandbeans,CharltonHest,IAvet,SamSpade,ANV,oldvike,ThimbleRigger,harrowup,Landshark,Hmmmmm,unsycophant (#0)

It's the middle of the night, before dawn on Tuesday, and I've just finished reading and scanning all 642 posts to this amazing thread. You have to take in the broad sweep of what transpires over the length of the thread to appreciate how important it is.

Here's a précis of the action:

  • BobJ, John Robinson, and Reagan Girl of Free Republic attempt by threats to endanger the survival of LibertyPost.
    • These are primarily faux-legal threats, but the key point is that prominent names at Free Republic readily stoop to this level of attempted censorship. Not content that they heavily censor and chill their own forum, they actually have the temerity (and stupidity) to barge into the sites to which they have driven their own BEST writers in an attempt to censor THEM TOO!
  • Goldi-Lox and Neil McIver parry the Orwellian/neo- Bolshevik thrust from the Free Republic goons deftly indeed. In brilliant, measured prose these two champions of open debate unsword the Censors neatly.
  • A spritely, saucy crew of LibertyPosters rise to the alarum to aid in the defense of Open Debate. Eloquent assistance is proferred by LOTF, Mojo, 2Fat4FAB, RuxtonTowers, Abundy, t2 gal, Twodees, OWK, Sentry Over America, GalFromTheBay, christine, francisandbeans, CharltonHest, IAvet, SamSpade, and others.
  • A few odd types who seem to be FR groupies appear to bark, mewl, bay, and snort odd phrases that impress at FR but don't fly in an adult atmosphere like LibertyPost. I'll let someone more in the know give a tally of who these folks were. Names that seemed to appear (please correct me if I'm wrong here) were harrowup, Landshark, and oldvike.
I copied out a few comments that shaped the thrust & parry. Here are several:

See how this works Goldi? I told you to get rid of them. [referring to getting rid of posters that BobJ would like to see LibertyPost censor!] BobJ #60
-----------------

We do not censor posters on THIS site. We allow people to fight it out, figuring the best "man" will win, and the truth will eventually be revealed.....It should be apparent to you by now, that we operate quite differently than Free Republic. That is by design. Goldi-Lox #88
----------------

...and this was supposed to accomplish what? [BobJ is referring to the establishment of Forums where those banned and chilled by Free Republic can post in freedom] BobJ #105
----------------

To accomplish what??? I can't believe you said that! To give them the opportunity to have a forum, and open debate! Many of those banned were the BEST of Free Republic. It has suffered greatly by their loss. Articles are not posted, or are yanked. Only one side of an issue is examined. That's NOT free speech. That's what the major media does...selective censorship.

I missed the flame wars. I missed the heated discussions where I got involved and learned a lot. It is dull there now. I was getting bored. I rarely posted in the last year...I had nothing to say, since nothing peaked my interest. Here, nearly every comment makes you want to get involved. THAT's what we've accomplished. Goldi-Lox #116
----------------------------------

Let me give all the definition of a hypocrite:

a hypocrite is one who pretends to be what he is not.

It is a fact, not libel, that Jim Robinson is a hypocrite. That can be proven with the banning of members that are documented and with the actual posts that were made. Members have been banned for expressing conservative thought, and since Free Republic is supposed to be a conservative site, that makes Jim Robinson a hypocrite (just one example). Sentry Over America #217
---------------------

224. To: John Robinson (#209)
Could you provide us with an analysis of the reasons for banishment of posters? It's clear you have it in a database. Anyone with a whit of knowledge could put that into a Pareto diagram so we all could see the top 5 reasons. I suspect that many of them have nothing to do with any of the published rules of the site.
GalFromTheBay posted on 2002-07-15 10:58:43
------------------------

Quite frankly I’ve missed many of the now former FR posters like Mojo. The forum was always lively and fun when they were there and their absence left a hole [a BIG, BIG hole, my comment-Birds Of A Feather, one of the banees who was banned not for being a bad writed but for being too damned good] – and I’m not just talking about the flame wars. Lively debate on issues is a good thing even if you don’t agree with the opinion of the poster [Forgive me for having to insert the comment: Duhhh! ].
ReaganGirl posted on 2002-07-15 13:06:57
-----------------------

324. To: ReaganGirl (#282)
"If I'm not welcomed to post here then you should remove my posting privileges." ReaganGirl

WE do not remove postings, or posting privileges arbitrarily. You are too accustomed to the operations at another forum. Should you wish to have them removed, we will do so upon your request. The only other way to lose posting privileges is to break our rules, which are clearly laid out on the home page. So far, no one has.
I made no comment to you. Why are you directing this comment at me?
Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-07-15 17:57:26
------------------------------

All in all, this has been a marvelous thread. It bares naked what's at stake on the Internet. A CENSORED world, or a FREE world.

Birds Of A Feather  posted on  2002-07-16   5:27:37 ET  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=653#C653

#653. To: Neil McIver (#647)

...worthy content...Again, I thank those that continue to support Liberty Post. I am determined to see this site through.

1. Unless John asked you to author this thread you violated a private communication for whatever reason anyone wishes to apply.

2. The animosity of your home team is clear.

3. Whether you know it or not you are now officially an 'anti-freeper' website that loves liberty more than any other sentient human on the planet.

4. Way to go.

harrowup  posted on  2002-07-16   8:23:30 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=660#C660

#660. To: francisandbeans (#659)

Neil didn't author this thread...it was Goldi.

Second, Goldi didn't post the email, Mojo did. Perhaps you should take the time to aim before you go firing arrows around here, eh?

1. Neil as webmaster authored what Goldi posted

2. I stand corrected as to who posted the email.

3. My point stands...this thread, authored by Neil, posted by Goldi and exploited by Mojo and John was incindiary.

4. I am not a FReeper, speaking of aim.

harrowup  posted on  2002-07-16   9:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=664#C664

#664. To: francisandbeans (#662)

Work on your definitions and relax junior. You won't get a rise out of me here; I am too much in awe of all of you libs who love the constitution and liberty more than I could ever aspire...probably because I have to work too hard to pay the taxes that I don't claim are unconstitutional.

harrowup  posted on  2002-07-16   9:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=667#C667

#667. To: harrowup (#665)

You are either drunk or clueless.

The management here came accross a situation and put up a reminder and a bit of a disclaimer as to protect the liability of the forum and its participants.

I'm opting for drunk because I beleive I saw you post something coherent once.

francisandbeans  posted on  2002-07-16   9:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=673#C673

#673. To: jjbrouwer (#668)

...

actually agreeing that she is a foul-mouthed old lady.

...it was ever so that the hamsters of afSS and afconistan would drop their stink bombs at UTA and then return to their restricted sewer and call the 'trolls' obscene obsession with vulgarity mochajoke proof that trolls were trailer trash.

Neil and Francis have bought into A Rat or similar rodent's view that Eschoir and Mojo are good draws, especially if John & Bob show up...we know what happened to Reunion after that.

harrowup  posted on  2002-07-16   10:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace  

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=512&Disp=680#C680

#680. To: harrowup (#665)

We could argue about this forever, but you are far too anal to be an enjoyable interlude.

1. Liberty Post is officially an anti-freeper site.

2. Nobody cares.

Blah blah blah, the great Harrowup is the one who decides what is pro and what is anti freeper. Blather

Seeing as you post here, and you are trying to get a log on for Liberty Forum, in your logic, you are an anti-freeper too.

Nobody cares...got that right, nobody gives a damn about whatever you do on FR, its your little gulag..enjoy living over there. I'll take a site that still remembers what the "Free" used to mean at FR.

This site is great, it is obviously scaring the PTB at FR, and a little competition is a GOOD thing. (flying monkeys and all)

Central Scrutiniser  posted on  2002-07-16   10:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace  


nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-18   18:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#338. To: nolu chan (#337)

Many of those banned were the BEST of Free Republic. It has suffered greatly by their loss. Articles are not posted, or are yanked. Only one side of an issue is examined. That's NOT free speech. That's what the major media does...selective censorship.

I missed the flame wars. I missed the heated discussions where I got involved and learned a lot. It is dull there now. I was getting bored. I rarely posted in the last year...I had nothing to say, since nothing peaked my interest. Here, nearly every comment makes you want to get involved. THAT's what we've accomplished. Goldi-Lox #116

The good old days. Today a thread started by TooConservative "Who’s really destroying the Republican Party? (it isn't Ron Paul)" was yanked.

The general consensus was that Neo-con libtards are destroying the GOP. The truth was just too painful to bear, I guess.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-18   18:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#339. To: nolu chan (#337)

When someone gets in an argument/debate with you. You produce short books. :)

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-08-18   23:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#340. To: A K A Stone (#339)

When someone gets in an argument/debate with you. You produce short books. :)

Guilty as charged. Others produce nothing more substantive than an image of a hamster.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-08-19   1:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#341. To: nolu chan (#340)

I think my 16 year old dog is on her last night. I hate it. I won't let her suffer.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-08-19   1:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#342. To: Fred Mertz (#341)

Prayers of Adoration

To everything there is a season,
a time for every purpose under the sun.
A time to be born and a time to die;
a time to plant and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
a time to kill and a time to heal ...
a time to weep and a time to laugh;
a time to mourn and a time to dance ...
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing;
a time to lose and a time to seek;
a time to rend and a time to sew;
a time to keep silent and a time to speak;
a time to love and a time to hate;
a time for war and a time for peace.

ecclesiastes 3:1-8

Very sorry to hear that Fred.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-19   1:40:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#343. To: continental op (#329)

old man begone, or I'll take your cane away from you and chastise you with it.

lol

NewsJunky  posted on  2011-08-19   3:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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