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Published: Aug 11, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-08-11 17:46:58 by A K A Stone
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Welcome Nolu Chan. Hey be nice everybody.
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#179. To: Murron, buckeroo, nolu chan (#177)
I don't care how he leaves, it's the leaving part I like. And I'll remember how much I love and cherish him the next time I flush....&;-) Bucky...Who's leaving? I said I'm done with this shit. Murron...I don't think I ever heard of you before this brouhaha began and I think Mel came into a discussion and then you made a funny reference to "SILENCE. I KEEL YOU". I did note that you had some history with Gatlin but have no idea what it was about. I believe our first disagreement came about when you were advised by me that I was spoofing and you were being played which angered you. That was one of the goals of the spoof but the target was Bucky and it unnerved him to distraction and irrelevance after that. I can understand why you would get annoyed, but if we have had any other previous dialogues in which you believe I insulted you, you'll have to tell me because I have no recollection of any meaningful dialogue with you prior to these events. Just as I have no idea what relevance 'Mercuria' has to me. I don't think I've ever had a conversation with her and only know her by reference. For better understanding of the real problem here it may help you to understand that when #3 makes a false assumption (collusion) and then charges me with making contradictory statements it makes it impossible to proceed to a solution. When I haven't made a statement the fact that someone else, whether Gatlin, yukon or whoever did, and I differ in my view, fails on its merits to warrant further discussion. For example there was a post by bucky up-thread that showed a purported private message from Gatlin to A K A Stone that I simply do not recall ever seeing and having seen it now can't perceive its relevance to me.
there's not much that doesn't surprise the walter middy of the internet. now go and out and pick up the goat shit in your front yard, like all the other retired admirals and successful lawyers do on saturday mornings
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Assuming for the moment you mean Thurber's Walter Mitty then you obviously qualify in that you have created a fantasy about yourself and of those of whom you are apparently envious; I can't speak for Gatlin, but I don't recall him ever bragging about his military service, and I certainly know I haven't. Joking about it? Of course. That's what I do. I can't remember whether I read the book or saw the movie first, but probably the book, but that would have been during the war and way too long ago to have left any more of an impression outside of the stereotype so I won't hazard a guess as to any other peculiarities you would share with poor Walter. I do remember liking the cartoons that went with Thurber more than reading Thurber. Carry on; you have pings to work on elsewhere.
I can't remember whether I read the book or saw the movie first, but probably the book, but that would have been during the war and way too long ago to have left any more of an impression outside of the stereotype so I won't hazard a guess as to any other peculiarities you would share with poor Walter. I know whether you read the book or saw the movie first. Probably it was not the book. It is a short story. A short short story. Here you can see it in Life magazine. Carry on admiral, you have work to do on that memory.
#179. To: Murron, buckeroo, nolu chan (#177) harrowup posted on 2011-08-13 8:06:43 ET [excerpt] As Admiral Harrowup wants his lying nonsense taken to a conclusion, I will do so. I and the Admiral have no history of any interaction at Freedom4um, Free Republic, Freedom Underground, or The People's Forum. Zero, with the indirect exception of my TPF analyses of the nonsense posted on Liberty's Flame during the yukon incident. That leaves Liberty Post where we did have a few exchanges. Admiral Harrowup made eight (8) posts addressed to me on three (3) threads. I made nine (9) posts addressed to harrowup on two threads. Harrowup and Nolu Chan Exchange Search on Liberty Post The lying sack of crap, Admiral harrowup, posted upstream: Charlie Chan's #3 Idiot son, no luck chuck tried once and lost badly. Unlikely he'll take your challenge. Clearly, Admiral harrowup alleges: Consider it brought. At 63, the Admiral alleged: If I only post were I can't be hindered by facts, the Admiral must consider LP such a site as I have a rather lengthy posting history there, spanning about five (5) years. I have repeatedly asked the lying sack of crap to present the evidence of where he made mincemeat of me, or where I lost badly to his sorry butt. I never happened. He can lie, and I can produce the whole posting history. It is all of seventeen (17) posts on LP, both sides of the exchange included. With the evidence smeared in his face, the Admiral can try to show where he made mincemeat of anyone. Before he wins any argument with anyone, he will have to make some point about something and back it up. While beating a dead horse, or a dead faux admiral, may be unseemly, this particular dead horse is full of gas. The gas escapes from his mouth, smells bad, and makes noise. I was not booted from CP. I stopped posting on the Snitz site shortly before it had its plug pulled; immediately after I advised, by posting on the site, that they were hosting libel per se on the site about Dr. Brian Kopp. As usual, the Admiral has his non-facts backwards. I never registered with the replacement vBulletin site. It was quite impossible for me to have been booted. It is time to start looking at the exchanges where the faux admiral says he made mincemeat of me. Some introductory comment on military tribunals, which are separate and distinct from a military court-martial as any real admiral should know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_tribunals_in_the_United_States A military tribunal is an inquisitorial system based on charges brought by military authorities, prosecuted by a military authority, judged by military officers, and sentenced by military officers against a member of an adversarial force. [snip] Although such tribunals do not satisfy most protections and guarantees provided by the United States Bill of Rights, that has not stopped Presidents from using them, nor the U.S. Congress from authorizing them, as in the Military Commissions Act of 2006. So, an inquisitorial system, outside the scope of conventional criminal and civil proceedings, designed to try members of enemy forces during wartime, which does not satisfy most protections and guarantees provided by the United States Bill of Rights, "is far more fair than civilian venues where the highest bidder prevails." So says Admiral harrowup. http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/forumy/2005/10/guantanamo-process-as-public-danger.php JURIST Guest Columnist Brian J. Foley of Florida Coastal School of Law says that the less-than-rigorous procedural rules governing the tribunals and military commissions at Guantanamo Bay endanger us as surely as any terrorists... The prevailing belief that the procedures at Guantanamo Bay (GTMO) protect us because they make it easy to keep “enemy combatants” locked away is misguided. When legal process is not rigorous and convictions are easy to win, the danger is not only to the accused. Public safety is compromised: under the existing rules, cursory investigations are sufficient for convictions. This is far too likely to lead to false convictions that will lull us into the sense that we’re reducing the threat of terrorism when we’re not. It’s beyond argument that the rules the tribunals at GTMO use are weak and that, as an epistemological matter, we can’t trust their determinations. The “Combatant Status Review Tribunals (CSRT),” which decide whether a prisoner is an “enemy combatant,” use a low standard of proof -- a preponderance of the evidence, with a “rebuttable presumption” in favor of the government’s evidence. The government can use notoriously unreliable evidence: hearsay, evidence coerced out of prisoners, and “classified” evidence kept secret from the prisoner. Access to lawyers is forbidden, and only one of the military “judges” is required to have a law degree. The “military commissions” that President Bush announced two months after 9/11 to try enemy combatants suspected of particular crimes are equally unreliable. Although there is a presumption of innocence and the burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt and the prisoner can have a lawyer (with restrictions), only one of the “judges” has to be a lawyer, and convictions can be based on hearsay, coerced testimony, and secret evidence. One purpose of having rigorous rules of evidence, high burdens of proof, and trained counsel to help an accused mount a defense is to improve public safety. Rigorous rules put the government to its proofs when it carries out its crime-fighting and national security duties. Rigorous rules protect us all by helping ensure that the government is truly ferreting out crime and not just putting on a show. [snip] Admiral harrowup asserts such a procedure "is far more fair than civilian venues where the highest bidder prevails." Admiral, is this the one thread, of three, where you claim to have reduced me to mincement? Would you prefer to move on to the next one in chronological order? An exchange between nolu chan and fitz [41, 42, 47, 48, 51] and the thread article are included for context. The admiral seems very sensitive about context. The admiral replied to #51. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92079&Disp=All Author: frobls and decent people Views: 2 Some real nastiness --- interesting the very worst types are allowed to threaten, insult, smear and whatever --- no time outs, no "knock-it-off". To: Travis McGee Don't let the traitors wear you down. Big mistake, buster. You will cease calling us traitors or else. Maybe tomorrow we'll take a little stroll down your peculiar posting history. When a fellow, even a fellow conspirator is caught with his pants down, it is best not to draw more attention to it. Let it pass is my advice. Take it or leave it. 529 posted on 04/13/2005 9:47:31 PM MDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 526 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] To: harrowup; Travis McGee Big mistake, buster. You will cease calling us traitors or else. Travis is a SEAL. I highly doubt that internet posters intimidate him. 532 posted on 04/13/2005 9:51:57 PM MDT by jmc813 (PLAYBOY ISN'T PORN;YES,PLAYBOY ID PORN ... ONLY PHOTOGRAPHED PORN IS PORN) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 529 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] Subscribe to *Minuteman Project* - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92079&Disp=41#C41 FR This thread has been pulled 4/15/2005 11:10:16 PM PDT - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92079&Disp=42#C42 I guess he didn't like the poor treatment of harrowup and CJ/CBG from the others --- asking them to back up what they were claiming. - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92079&Disp=47#C47 Large-font calls for harrowup's military history were being made by several posters shortly before the thread was pulled. I did not see what happened in the final hour or so of the thread. When I went back it was gone. - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92079&Disp=48#C48 I guess because she claims to have served in some war or to be a veteran of some kind but is always smearing those who have a military background. So I think they're calling her bluff --- prove it or quit trying to use veteran status as an excuse to smear real veterans. - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92079&Disp=51#C51 Through what I observed, ending with approximately #741, the challenge of Travis McGee to provide a military background was joined by a couple of other posters and became a chorus, along with a chorus of crickets. I saw no substantive response, only an oft-reiterated claim to Travis McGee that "you forget that I am asking the questions." (As best I can recall the precise words.) Apparently a real Navy Seal is not particularly intimidated by an ankle-biting liberal attack dog, but merely growls until the little chihuahua says "Yo quiero Taco Bell." The bluff was most definitely being called, by a chorus, and the only answer I observed was the pulling of the thread. (Note: I did not observe the last hour or so of the thread.) For harrowup, I only find vague statements about military service, but must allow for the fact that threads are pulled and posts may have been made that are no longer available. Because I was almost exclusively on the civil war threads, I did not meet harrowup on FR, unless it was under an alternate handle. I did find the following: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/593030/posts?page=254#254 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1110046/posts?page=488#488 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/579961/posts?page=125#125 I find a liberal, asserting an assignment to the Philadelphia Navy Yard, who imagines that a military tribunal is far more fair than civilian venues. This last claim indicates a detachment from reality or some really profound unfamiliarity with the nature of a military tribunal. A military tribunal has no set rules of evidence or anything else until the authority creating the tribunal decides what they are and promulgates such rules for the specific tribunal in question. This should not be confused with a military court-martial which applies to military active duty personnel and operates under existing military law. Even so, the conviction rate at military courts-martial has historically exceeded 95% and the rules do not contain the same protections as in a civilian procedure. While an enlisted person may have one-thirds enlisted on the panel (jury), a unanimous verdict is not required -- it takes only two-thirds to convict. The automatic right to counsel does not attach to all courts-martial. A military tribunal or court-martial is a creature of the Executive Department, not the Judicial Department. For Travis McGee, using his real name I found DoD Official Public Records indicate him to be a reserve Naval officer, O-3 as claimed. http://www.military.com/Locator/DodDetail/1,13996,3630607,00.html Name : MATTHEW JAMES BRACKEN http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR1304/MR1304.appg.pdf 9294 appears to indicate SEAL delivery vehicle officer http://buperscd.technology.navy.mil/bup_updt/508/milpers/1210-220.htm 113x appears to indicate Navy Special Warfare Officer. - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92079&Disp=54#C54 Do you ever follow context? - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92079&Disp=57#C57 Do you ever follow context? Yes. In context, a military tribunal (or court-martial) is not designed to be fair. It is part of the Executive system, not the Judicial system. The convening authority chooses to have the charges tried, then makes the rules. A jury is provided by the convening authority. The convening authority may provide a military Jag Corps judge. The convening authority may even provide a military Jag Corps defense counsel. Upon conviction one may appeal... to the convening authority. http://www.militaryinjustice.org/Documents/UCMJStats.PDF From 1997-2000, including all forms of courts-martial, the U.S. Navy achieved a 96.7% conviction rate. The reason for the existence of the military courts or tribunals is the furtherance of good order and discipline, not the promotion of fairness or justice. "In Middendorf v. Henry, 425 U.S. 25 (1976), the Supreme Court held that presence of counsel was not required at a summary court-martial, which the Court characterized as a 'disciplinary' proceeding." See "Military Criminal Justice, Practice and Procedure," Fifth Edition, David A. Schlueter, Lexis Law Publishing, Charlottesville, VA, copr 1999, Matthew Bender & Company, Inc., page 39, footnote 13. In context, we may find a proceeding determined by the Supreme Court to be a disciplinary proceeding, rather than a judicial proceeding, with no requirement for presence of qualified legal counsel. And that is for a court- martial under well-established military law. In a military tribunal, first someone decides to prosecute and then they make up the procedures to be used. In context, anyone who claims that a military tribunal is more fair than a civilian judicial proceeding causes me to question whether that person was ever in the military. In the military system there is only ONE bidder and this monopoly provides a conviction rate unheard of in any U.S. civilian court system. nolu chan, USN, (Ret). - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92079&Disp=58#C58 You still don't know what context is. Only an anti-government freak would automatically associate evil intent with a government inquiry. You can squeal all you like about your opinion but since I trust the government and this particular President what you have to say is nothing but sour grapes based on a warped sense of superiority. Now, if you want to go back and read the comment in context then you can try again but so far you've wasted more time than I have for you. - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92079&Disp=64#C64 Only an anti-government freak would automatically associate evil intent with a government inquiry. Only a liberal airhead would describe a military tribunal as a government inquiry. Government inquiries cannot award the death penalty. As for "civilian venues where the highest bidder prevails," Poor Martha Stewart. I wonder why she did not just place the highest bid. And who outbid her? It must have been the government. In -all- criminal proceedings, one of the parties is the government. You still do not know what a military tribunal is, or you would not try to defend your brain-dead assertion that "a military tribunal is far more fair than civilian venues...." Oh wait. You did not try to defend that inane comment. You have been merely diverting attention from it. Sort of like when Travis McGee and others on FR asked you about your purported military history. I guess I shouldn't take up any more of your time so you can get back to work on that one.
not worthy of a response.
Well now, #3, I have some good news and some bad news for you. First the good news. I have absolutely no idea who you are or what you do, except you continue in mojo's long and hysterical demonstration of a manic- depressive personality disorder. I briefly read something at Robin's kookery site before she banned me after just an innocuous exchange with Fred or Ferret. That one series of OCD c/p's clearly indicated your lack of grounding so any further reading of your huffing and puffing bluster and bombast is never illuminating; you know, Snerdley lite and Rush heavy on the syntaxual malapropisms. Quite different from Coulter's convoluted indecipherable analogies, another of your heroes of the lunatic right once championed by Buchanan and his bigoted ilk. I know you are finding this difficult to understand, but that is the sum total of the good news for you, to wit, you are only a legend in your own mind. Now, for the bad news. Just like your pal Stevie you have been sent chasing your tail all over the internet for years to find some flaw in some imaginary slight and have, like the hamster shit bug before you, failed to reconnect with reality. Making mincemeat out of posters like you and the shit bug is so easy it is very nearly criminal to take any measure of pleasure in watching you going round in circles, never, ever getting what you want. Shit-bug is never going to get even with JR, let alone me, and you will never get even with whomever your nemesis may be. Please don't say I haven't given you enough clues to your eventual shame. I broadcast spoof warnings but like most of the posters on this and other 'political' discussion forums you can't believe anyone is capable of turning you into a pathetic resemblance of a blithering idiot. Finally. Making mincemeat is an art best left to an expert and you just aren't wired for prime time. Your last meaningless data dumps illustrates how deeply disturb you are and you'll find eventually that context is more valuable than gotchas...except my gotcha. Of course deception and misdirection are lies, you asshole; so is the suggestion that Thurber associated cartoons were better than the stories...in The New Yorker...'articles' led you on another hunt which was not only demonstrably unnecessary but predictive, planned and executed. In sum, you are certifiably bat shit crazy, and remember to tell the shit bug and the Brazilian virgin that you've triumphed and are still on top as the biggest bestest hamster in the cage. I'm pretty certain you will continue to bluster, but like your new best friends you'll just keep on proving my point. Carry on. It is to laugh, guffaw, guffaw.
typical response by the admiral, gets his ass kicked then claims victory.
You can squeal all you like about your opinion but since I trust the government and this particular President what you have to say is nothing but sour grapes based on a warped sense of superiority. Now, if you want to go back and read the comment in context then you can try again but so far you've wasted more time than I have for you. harrowup posted on 2005-04-17 15:56:55 ET You really said that? You changed the [paraphrasing] from: fair and even handedness of any government controlling a military tribunal to: a mere inquiry? With six years behind us, what do you think of and about your trust of government and GWBush, now?
Yep. So you have to make every day a vacation...;}
Very well, Admiral. I shall carry on to the second of the only three threads, seeking the one where you made mincemeat of me. Perhaps this is a demonstation of how you imagine kicking my butt, and apparently also that of Travis McGee (Matthew Bracken). It looked to me like a real SEAL was not impressed with your antics. Feel free to point out exactly where you did any ass kicking with your yukonesque content-free comments. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=All Post Date: 2005-04-20 08:00:01 by nolu chan http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1385076/posts FR THREAD: Tancredo Statement on Majority Leader Tom DeLay (from his own website) This thread has been pulled. Pulled on 04/18/2005 8:51:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson, reason: As long as the name calling and flamewars continue (on either or both sides) I will continue pulling threads, suspending and or banning posters. Knock it off!! To: harrowup Still waiting for you to post your military experience. 354 posted on 04/17/2005 7:05:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee ( -----www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----) To: shellshocked Quisling A word Norwegians are not very proud of having given to the world: it derives from Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945), a Norwegian politician who collaborated with the Nazis during World War II. He established his name as a synonym for "traitor", someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country, especially by serving in a puppet government. Quisling was found guilty of high treason in 1945, and was executed on the 24th October 1945. 355 posted on 04/17/2005 7:08:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----) To: Travis McGee It still doesn't go your way. You have to answer yes or no to the last two questions I asked you. Using bold all caps and super size would indicate you are stressed. Take your time and relax. 356 posted on 04/17/2005 7:17:10 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course) To: WVNan Just use http://www.congress.org or http://www.congressvote.com Just type the URL and it will show up as a link - easy - you can do it!! 357 posted on 04/17/2005 8:22:32 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth") To: Travis McGee She has no military experience. She is just a lonely old hag looking for an argument to keep her company. 358 posted on 04/17/2005 9:11:09 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.) To: Travis McGee; harrowup; Marine Inspector Harrowup, keep up the good work against these racists. Has Latrine Inspector been threatening to run checks on any other people? 359 posted on 04/17/2005 9:27:14 PM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Championship!) To: shellshocked "I may not be the best of Freepers" Understatement of the Year award heading your way. 360 posted on 04/17/2005 9:42:23 PM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Championship!) To: 4.1O dana super trac pak; harrowup I met harrowup today. His name could even be Gonzalez and I'd still think he was ok. 361 posted on 04/17/2005 9:56:07 PM PDT by presidio9 ("For relaxing times, make it Santori time.") To: devolve LOL, I won't post my little 'laugher' again! All I saw was a blank space last time and I went back and posted it again!! 362 posted on 04/17/2005 10:19:03 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?) To: potlatch OBL date night 363 posted on 04/17/2005 10:27:15 PM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WhiteCliffsOfDover.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot -) To: presidio9 I have noticed your views on topics other than immigration aren't too shabby so I will give you this advice. You should research the poster you've decided you think is OK before you make such pronouncements. Try Google for starters. Just because ya'll share immigration views, I wouldn't get so enamoured if I were you. BTW....that perennial forum trash does not deserve a courtesy ping. 364 posted on 04/17/2005 11:12:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!) To: wardaddy OK, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, if you can tell me why you hate Mexicans so much. 365 posted on 04/18/2005 12:30:34 AM PDT by presidio9 ("For relaxing times, make it Santori time.") To: harrowup Stop calling your regular American citizen a traitor and especially stop suggesting you are a superior being and we might just ignore the fact that you are racists. About seven of you to my calculation. I see that you've resorted to calling other people "racist" (again). I guess it's a lot easier to do that than it is to defend your position with good arguments and facts. But I guess we shouldn't expect any better from a card-carrying ACLU member. 366 posted on 04/18/2005 1:17:20 AM PDT by judgeandjury To: harrowup Tsar pinged his buddies to disrupt a thread which was pretty negative toward their racist hero, Tancredo. Mirror, mirror. 367 posted on 04/18/2005 1:18:53 AM PDT by judgeandjury To: harrowup Funny, I never noticed how long you guys have been polluting the net with your garbage until I started looking into a couple of your more vocal blowhards. I'll bet you don't get out into normal society very much. Funny, I was just thinking the same thing about you. 368 posted on 04/18/2005 1:34:58 AM PDT by Elmer Piddlestone To: jjbrouwer Harrowup, keep up the good work against these racists. Is name-calling all that you've got to contribute? Absolutely pathetic. 369 posted on 04/18/2005 1:52:01 AM PDT by Elmer Piddlestone To: Lead Moderator; Jim Robinson; harrowup; Travis McGee; Spiff; Czar GENTLEMEN, IT'S TIME TO FISH OR CUT BAIT... The time is long past to begin enforcement of FR's posting guidelines, against this forum's infamous serial flamers. Below are no less than 15 examples of personal attacks, race-baiting, flame throwing, slurs, libels, disclosures of personal information, etc., all from this one thread. And the shocking fact is that all these examples originate from just one freeper (harrowup), who managed these 15 personal attacks from a total of only 18 replies by him, on the thread. Since one of harrowup's post in that thread was deleted by moderator, it is clear that the administration was aware of the offensive nature of his posts, yet nothing was done to curtail this grossly improper behavior. Moreover, this poster's quotes, where he brags about being a disruptor and troll and how he "love[s] beating up on Republicans...and especially conservatives" has been posted at least a dozen times on FR, so again, the administration cannot claim to be unaware of his confession to being a troll and disruptor. NOTHING CAN BE MORE TELLING PULLING A THREAD IS NO SOLUTION PLEASE DON'T PULL THIS THREAD HERE ARE THE PERSONAL ATTACKS IN QUESTION: 1. "I have pinged JR in case he would like to give you another shot at proving you're an arse." #155 2. "We've already established you are all a bunch of racists pigs;" #286 3. "If so, you may have discovered why so many folks sort of cock their heads funny when they slide away from you." #287 4. "oh, cock-a-roacha... [reference to Travis McGee]" #290 5. "We've already established that you are a liar and create fraudulent translations to back your racist attitudes so that is not the direction I am going." #296 6. "The racist pigs here are the ones who keep pinging for reinforcements and pretending they are offended. You, for example and the others who seem to be fixated on ridding this country of hispanics whom you claim are destroying your way of life by changing your American culture, language and traditions. You're not conservatives. You are anti-government pluguglies just short of wearing hoods." #298 7. "We would much rather hear from the horse's [snip] [reference to Travis McGee] directly; no time for rabble rousing hoi polloi." #299 8. "Stop calling your regular American citizen a traitor and especially stop suggesting you are a superior being and we might just ignore the fact that you are racists." #306 9. "devolve, aka 'supertracpac' at LP is trying very hard to get noticed today." #309 10. "Tsar pinged his buddies to disrupt a thread which was pretty negative toward their racist hero, Tancredo." #316 11. "It would be helpful if more conservative recognized that and stopped giving aid and comfort to the racists who claim their goal on the Mexican border is for national security." #323 12. "Good thing for you that the latrine checker [Marine Inspector] had the Porta-Potty detail in Tombstone today or he'd be checking your papers." #335 13. "Ah, so you have some other explanation for the putrescence coming from your maw, you 'marecun you." #353 [nolu chan note: "marecun" is a misspelling of "maricon," the Spanish word for "queer."] Nothing happens in a vacuum, and FR's de facto toleration of race-baiters, trolls and disrupters has become the subject of much comment around the net, most of it unpleasant. It makes sense to get this problem under control now and in a way that reflects well upon FR's conservative values. -Boot Hill 370 posted on 04/18/2005 2:31:01 AM PDT by Boot Hill ("...and Joshua went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?") To: ClintonBeGone After giving it thought, Tan-creepo has no character, and I hope DeLay keeps his post. But as for DeLay being president, nope. He's part of the 'cheap labor until the thousands more die' crowd. 371 posted on 04/18/2005 2:38:22 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March («« Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research) To: Dad yer funny Tan-creepo, the man who could have been president. 372 posted on 04/18/2005 2:39:43 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March («« Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 241 | View Replies ] To: Boot Hill; harrowup; and all concerned "FR's de facto toleration of race-baiters, trolls and disrupters has become the subject of much comment around the net..," Hah! That's a laugh. I've seen how you guys conduct yourselves on other sites "around the net." But that garbage ends when you come to FR. If it doesn't, you may all find yourselves outta here. And that includes you too Harrowup. Old salts like you have been around long enough to know better. Keep it off FR. 373 posted on 04/18/2005 3:46:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson To: Jim Robinson "I've seen how you guys conduct yourselves on other sites 'around the net'." Care to show any examples of "that garbage" regarding my conduct on other sites? No? I didn't think so! Maybe you should retract that cheap shot you took at me. -Boot Hill 374 posted on 04/18/2005 4:47:15 AM PDT by Boot Hill ("...and Joshua went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?") To: Jim Robinson Hah! That's a laugh. I've seen how you guys conduct yourselves on other sites "around the net." But that garbage ends when you come to FR. If it doesn't, you may all find yourselves outta here. And that includes you too Harrowup. Old salts like you have been around long enough to know better. Keep it off FR. Jim, I'm not "conducting myself" on any other sites around the net. Harrowup, however, is and has stated openly that he's on FR and other sites to beat up on Republicans and conservatives. He's also openly stated that he's on a "jihad" to torment border security advocates and immigration reformers. His behavior on Free Republic has been outrageous to say the least. There are other serial flamers, disruptors and trolls who are part of his little pack and they think that Free Republic is their little playground to beat up on long time FReepers, recent members, and newbies because they're Republican and conservative or they're aware of and concerned about the problems caused by our lack of border security. Why do you continue to tolerate Harrowup? In all my 9 year history with Free Republic I've never seen a more beligerant poster, except for maybe Eschoir, who sows more dissension and disruption as harrowup has recently. I've never seen someone lie so blatantly and slander FReepers so freely with apparent impunity. I want to thank you for this wonderful forum. I want to thank you for tolerating the Minuteman Project reports and news articles. I know what your opinion was before and I hope it has changed somewhat given how well the project has been run and how successful it has proven to be. Really, thank you. Now, I want you to notice how those threads usually devolve. A news article about the project is posted, people join in and say things like "Wow! God bless those patriots." and such. Then harrowup and his pack jump in and start race-baiting, slandering, lying, and everything. Read through a couple of the threads and you can see a concerted effort on their part to incite flame wars. It happens nearly every time. They haven't offered a constructive comment that I've seen. It is all attack attack attack. This is not the way this forum usually operates. I've never seen anything like it since I came to Free Republic in 1997 (actually earlier). Well, except for Eschoir. I really don't want to see you let Free Republic turn into this kind of thing. I hope that you and the moderators can get this under control soon as I think it is really hurting Free Republic and its reputation. I have not joined the groups attacking FR, in fact I've written some of them telling them to lay off. I'm afraid that opposition will grow though if things don't change. I hope that you can come up with a fair way to deal with this problem and if it were me I would start with harrowup. 375 posted on 04/18/2005 4:50:43 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.) To: judgeandjury I see that you've resorted to calling other people "racist" (again). I guess it's a lot easier to do that than it is to defend your position with good arguments and facts. But I guess we shouldn't expect any better from a card-carrying ACLU member. Along with ACLU, Google "child pornography" and "NAMBLA". You'll see what ACLU types are all about. Disgusting. 376 posted on 04/18/2005 4:52:23 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.) To: Boot Hill No? I didn't think so! Maybe you should retract that cheap shot you took at me. I don't think that Jim aimed that shot at you. There are a number of posters who post here and then on other sites talking about the flamewars their engaging in over here. They go off and giggle about who they're smearing and they use other forums to plan and coordinate attacks. That's what Jim was talking about and I don't think he was particularly aiming the comment at you. Calm down. Don't take it personally. I think that Jim will look at this and see what he can do. I think he recognizes the problem and I hope that he can deal with it fairly. I think he's particularly frustrated with the people who use other forums to plan their disruptions over here and who engage in flamewars with each other on multiple forums. If you're not one of them (as I'm not either) I don't think that Jim is talking to you. 377 posted on 04/18/2005 4:56:19 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.) To: Spiff; Jim Robinson "I don't think that Jim aimed that shot at you." Maybe not, but I was the primary addressee of that post, and he opened his post with a quote from me, and then proceeded to condemn "you guys", collectively. You may be right, but you can be sure that if I read it that way, others will too. I need to get some sleep, I'll see you around tomorrow and hopefully find that you're right, that Jim recognizes the problem and will act to correct it. --Boot Hill 378 posted on 04/18/2005 5:18:17 AM PDT by Boot Hill ("...and Joshua went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?") - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=29#C29 You fellows need to take responsibility for your actions. JR personally told us all to knock the personal attacks off twice before this thread on the 18th. Those of us who have been accused of being traitors and foreign nationals and worse complied. Spiff and Travis calmed down and backed off. You, Boot Hill, did not. You even went so far as to enter other threads simply to post your stupid broadsides and you dragged B58Hustler (gatlin) right along with you. I requested that those messages be removed and in the case of the thread jumping I asked that you get your butt kicked. It is my surmise, Boot, you got yourself timed out not for your aggressive and relentless attacks, mischaracterizations and outright falsehoods, but because you deliberately challenged JR and kept right on doing what he told you not to do. If it took my abuse button to start the ball rolling then I am pleased the thing works. And you Boot, dragged B58 right along with you since I never even paid attention to his slobbering. My only regret is that I did not use the 'abuse' button before on all of you from the get go. If I had perhaps 'wardaddy', Travis, Spiff and HiJinx would be in your company. You are the whiniest bunch of crybabies I've ever seen. Drama queens will blush in your company. There are rules at FR just as here. The difference is that I have friends at FR and while you can do your best to get me removed from this site, it will be of no matter to me. It will only prove that your intent is as ugly as your behavior. If you want to discuss border issues, fine. Don't create a situation where I am obligated to return fire. There are times when I can be kind and generous and loyal. I can also be meaner than dirt. - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=104#C104 You fellows need to take responsibility for your actions. JR personally told us all to knock the personal attacks off twice before this thread on the 18th. * * * My only regret is that I did not use the 'abuse' button before on all of you from the get go. If I had perhaps 'wardaddy', Travis, Spiff and HiJinx would be in your company. As you have addressed this screed to me, please provide an example of that for which you imagine I should take responsibility. As the thread was pulled you cannot provide a link, but if you saved anything, perhaps you can provide a quote. If not a quote, try to provide even your vaguest recollection, in your own words, of what I supposedly posted to get the thread pulled, or for which I need take responsibility. While you are are it, have you had any luck lately researching your military experience? As you were stationed at NavSta Philly, do you recall that red carpet? - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=114#C114 You posted the thread. Never heard of you before a few days ago. - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=116#C116 Never heard of you before a few days ago. harrowup #29, this thread. You fellows need to take responsibility for your actions. JR personally told us all to knock the personal attacks off twice before this thread on the 18th. Try again. JR did not tell us to do anything, certainly not here. Have you had any luck lately researching your military experience? As you were stationed at NavSta Philly, do you recall that red carpet? - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=122#C122 I stand corrected. You were kicked off weeks before I had any interest in the MMP. What threads were you abusing? Were you a "The South Should Rise Again" or an earlier explosion about your problems with migrant workers? Consider my slap down a reminder that you are hanging out with some really very clumsy folks. - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=140#C140 From the available user database, downloaded into Adobe Acrobat, nolu chan's posting history fills 5,062 pages. harrowup's posting history fills 764 pages. But then nolu chan only used one handle. Or perhaps we should just consider that the piddling participation of a liberal Democrat card-carrying ACLU disruptor does not count. - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=144#C144 Which proves you either have too much time on your fingers and/or your feelings are hurt that all those 'citations' have been for naught if you are not universally known? Geesh, get a life. - - - - - [nc note 08/14/2011: This discusses the one and only post of mine that was removed from FR. My one deleted post was returned to the thread after the post by 4CJ. I never requested reinstatement on FR.] http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=159#C159 [harrowup] I stand corrected. You were kicked off weeks before I had any interest in the MMP. It is noteworthy that the fact that I was not even there did not stop you from addressing a post to me saying, "You fellows need to take responsibility for your actions. JR personally told us all to knock the personal attacks off twice before this thread on the 18th." I take it this is typical of your posts. When desired, you just make up your "facts." I guess you felt your brain-dead disruptor nonsense sounded good. It was just too bad for you that I was not even on the FR thread you were talking about. But that attempt to make believe you were talking about this LP thread was lame. After all, the record still shows that you said, "JR personally told us all...." Unless JR has taken over LP, you knew precisely what thread you were talking about. This is precisely the way capitan_refugio would try to slither out when his make-believe "facts" were exposed. [harrowup] Consider my slap down a reminder that you are hanging out with some really very clumsy folks. As best I can tell, not a one of them is a liberal Democrat card-carrying ACLU disruptor such as you. Also, they do not make up their "facts." I see you still haven't found your military history. Consider my slap down that of a retired vet to a phoney service member. [harrowup] What threads were you abusing? Were you a "The South Should Rise Again" or an earlier explosion about your problems with migrant workers? I was especially abusing the now-exposed-liar capitan_refugio. By the way, is that one of your other handles on FR? Here is an exchange between 4ConservativeJustices and Non-Sequitur from this morning about my banning by FR. I accurately quoted Abraham Lincoln, linked to the specific page of the authoritative Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln. The post quoted by 4ConservativeJustices is the only one I ever had removed on FR. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: capitan_refugio Your excuse for nolu is a classic rationalization. Unable to accept that he was banned for something he did or wrote, you create a story in which the innocent nolu was tricked into posting supposed Lincoln quotes. Wrong. No story was created, nolu chan was not tricked, this is just further proof of your ludicrous lies. My tagline states the truth, Nolu chan was banned for quoting Lincoln. To prove it, I'll post his entire post, with links and LINCOLN's words removed, and then you tell what was bannable about it? ==================================================== Roy Prentice Basler published the definitive collection of Lincoln quotes. ALL LINKS go to the Complete Works of Abraham Lincoln, Roy P. Basler. Italics in original. ============= [redacted] ============= [redacted] ========== [redacted] ===== [redacted] [redacted] ===== [redacted] ===== [redacted] ========= [redacted] ===== [redacted] Way to go Abe!! Dropped the N-bomb four times in one paragraph in a public speech. ===== [redacted] Way to go Abe!! Quite a stump speech you have going there! Different newspaper, four n-bombs. ===== [redacted] ===== [redacted] ========= [redacted] ========================================= What bannable about that? With regard to the second clause, that first appeared the day after GOPc disappeared. You apparently attribute his short time-out to an alleged quote from the boss. But you knew full well that GOPC was caught in several ... shall we say ... mistruths. You're a habitual liar. The reason I wrote that quoting Jim is a bannable offense is because it was true in this case - GOPCapitalist was banned for a day for doing nothing more than directing the moderators attention to the admonishment that Mr. Robinson had previously sent YOU. I have the UTMOST respect for Mr. Robinson, if he'd like me to change my tagline I will do so. 405 posted on 04/21/2005 8:18:42 AM PDT by 4ConservativeJustices (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. || Quoting Lincoln OR JimRob is a bannable offense.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- To: 4ConservativeJustices; capitan_refugio To prove it, I'll post his entire post, with links and LINCOLN's words removed, and then you tell what was bannable about it? Take out Lincoln's words and nothing was left. Your point was? 423 posted on 04/21/2005 9:16:19 AM PDT by Non- Sequitur ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- To: Non-Sequitur Take out Lincoln's words and nothing was left. Your point was? Exactly! NOTHING was left, yet this was the post that Nolu chan was suspended for posting. LINCOLN's words were the bannable material, not Nolu Chans! 424 posted on 04/21/2005 10:30:43 AM PDT by 4ConservativeJustices (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. || Quoting Lincoln OR JimRob is a bannable offense.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=164#C164 <84 - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=168#C168 I ask you not to forget MightyMeesePoopers. 80 posted on 04/14/2005 9:11:56 AM PDT by harrowup The Houston Chronicle is hinting in its editorial that it does not wish to see a repeat of the MMP dog and pony show experiment tested in Texas. I agree. 249 posted on 04/11/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by harrowup am 100% in favor of border protection. I am 100% opposed to vigilantes doing it. 201 posted on 04/10/2005 2:22:34 PM PDT by harrowup No, you're wrong and your pal Spiff is also trying to raise flame just because I agree with Cbg, Ben and others on the issue of the MMP. He is also lying about the 'jihad' quote...that was in reference to my jihad at MMP before I knew what it was...once I found out through Tlbshow who provided a link, I reignited the jihad...had nothing to do with my comments regarding Republicans and conservatives, but since facts don't matter to Spiff he is being ignored. Pass it on. 164 posted on 04/10/2005 9:46:01 AM PDT by harrowup I also coined the term, or just Mighty Meece for the short hairs. And don't forget 'dog and pony show' which was the choice of your fearless green shade leader, Mr. Gilfish. 113 posted on 04/09/2005 5:05:19 PM PDT by harrowup - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=169#C169 42
Jim, I'm not "conducting myself" on any other sites around the net. Harrowup, however, is and has stated openly that he's on FR and other sites to beat up on Republicans and conservatives. He's also openly stated that he's on a "jihad" to torment border security advocates and immigration reformers. His behavior on Free Republic has been outrageous to say the least. There are other serial flamers, disruptors and trolls who are part of his little pack and they think that Free Republic is their little playground to beat up on long time FReepers, recent members, and newbies because they're Republican and conservative or they're aware of and concerned about the problems caused by our lack of border security. Why do you continue to tolerate Harrowup? In all my 9 year history with Free Republic I've never seen a more beligerant poster, except for maybe Eschoir, who sows more dissension and disruption as harrowup has recently. I've never seen someone lie so blatantly and slander FReepers so freely with apparent impunity. I want to thank you for this wonderful forum. I want to thank you for tolerating the Minuteman Project reports and news articles. I know what your opinion was before and I hope it has changed somewhat given how well the project has been run and how successful it has proven to be. Really, thank you. Now, I want you to notice how those threads usually devolve. A news article about the project is posted, people join in and say things like "Wow! God bless those patriots." and such. Then harrowup and his pack jump in and start race-baiting, slandering, lying, and everything. Read through a couple of the threads and you can see a concerted effort on their part to incite flame wars. It happens nearly every time. They haven't offered a constructive comment that I've seen. It is all attack attack attack. This is not the way this forum usually operates. I've never seen anything like it since I came to Free Republic in 1997 (actually earlier). Well, except for Eschoir. I really don't want to see you let Free Republic turn into this kind of thing. I hope that you and the moderators can get this under control soon as I think it is really hurting Free Republic and its reputation. I have not joined the groups attacking FR, in fact I've written some of them telling them to lay off. I'm afraid that opposition will grow though if things don't change. I hope that you can come up with a fair way to deal with this problem and if it were me I would start with harrowup. 375 posted on 04/18/2005 4:50:43 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.) Fascinating profile by Spiff as he exposed the Skipper long ago. Aah, these ACLU-Dems. His "jihad" is now apparently gone on for over six-plus years as it's infested LP and LF. While reading your FR retrospective, one cannot help but see so many clinical instances and examples of projection....that continue til this very day.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
375 posted on 04/18/2005 4:50:43 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.) Some things never change. The YukloughnPosse is still using the same technique to derail discussion of anything pro-American, and anti-globalist. They're MIC/NWO shills!
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
They're MIC/NWO shills! Yep. Nice snag and highlight of The Disruptors' MO. And then there's Goldi supporting and endorsing the lunacy and torching of LP by the vandals, goths, and barbarians.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
harrup, is that all you can do as a rebuttal to the discussion placed before the forum by nc? Posting animated graphics as though that gives you some sort of "upmansship?" I say you appear as a coward.
I guess you couldn't find your magnificent achievement on the second of the three threads. Just one more thread to go, you low life miserable lying sack of shit. Good luck finding your mythical achievement here, you phoney dirtbag. You sure don't have much to say when presented with the actual posting history. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=170924&Disp=All URL Source: http://www.geocities.com/fountoftruth/showme.html Views: 3 I just popped open the plastic on my copy of my “America Freedom to Fascism” DVD. This must see DVD – I saw the movie at a theater a few months ago – is based on what I have heard for years. Specifically, there is no federal law requiring thee and me to pay a tax on our personal incomes. I just thought I would float the following question to the list: Where is the specific federal statute requiring Americans to pay a tax on their personal incomes? Please show it to me! - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=170924&Disp=79#C79 Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution pretty much makes your demand for a specific federal statute moot. However, if you are serious, check out the IRS website. They'll give you much clearer instructions if you still doubt the strength of the Congressional mandate. - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=170924&Disp=257#C257 "(1) Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items;" It is completely legal. Whether it is moral or right is a different subject. - - - - - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=170924&Disp=258#C258 "Where is the specific federal statute requiring Americans to pay a tax on their personal incomes?" Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution pretty much makes your demand for a specific federal statute moot. However, if you are serious, check out the IRS website. They'll give you much clearer instructions if you still doubt the strength of the Congressional mandate. harrowup I don't think they really want to know. It gives them the bloat. If it was not in the first two threads, that must be your magnificent achievement.
that's exactly what i thought when i read that paragraph, thanks for highlighting it cause I sure as hell was.
www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...rtNum=92733&Disp=159#C159 #159. To: harrowup (#122) [harrowup] I stand corrected. You were kicked off weeks before I had any interest in the MMP. It is noteworthy that the fact that I was not even there did not stop you from addressing a post to me saying, "You fellows need to take responsibility for your actions. JR personally told us all to knock the personal attacks off twice before this thread on the 18th." I take it this is typical of your posts. When desired, you just make up your "facts." I guess you felt your brain-dead disruptor nonsense sounded good. It was just too bad for you that I was not even on the FR thread you were talking about. But that attempt to make believe you were talking about this LP thread was lame. After all, the record still shows that you said, "JR personally told us all...." Unless JR has taken over LP, you knew precisely what thread you were talking about. This is precisely the way capitan_refugio would try to slither out when his make-believe "facts" were exposed. [harrowup] Consider my slap down a reminder that you are hanging out with some really very clumsy folks. Isn't this what you're are looking for Chan? An exchange with Harrowup which he recalls as a slapdown..and which is apparently what he told you at the time? Carry on...
www.youtube.com/watch? fea...profilepage&v=ks_duDs76gA
Same with the rest of his idiot pals....either that or they run away crying like little girls.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" An exchange with Harrowup which he recalls as a slapdown..and which is apparently what he told you at the time? Carry on... No. I was looking for an actual slapdown, not imaginary harrowup bullshit. The bathtub admiral's glorious claim was at his #122. My response was #159. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92733&Disp=122#C122 I stand corrected. You were kicked off weeks before I had any interest in the MMP. What threads were you abusing? Were you a "The South Should Rise Again" or an earlier explosion about your problems with migrant workers? Consider my slap down a reminder that you are hanging out with some really very clumsy folks. Poor skippy. His alleged thread abuse rather evaporated when I pointed out that the post in question had been restored. The only possible offensive parts were the accurately cited and quoted words of Abraham Lincoln. The post was restored and remains restored at FR today. I wrote back at the time: Bennett, the long time editor of Ebony, found it necessary to quote the actual words of Lincoln to counter the mythmakers' pattern of ignoring, excusing, or simply denying what Lincoln said over and over and over in private and in public speeches, including several of the Lincoln-Douglas debates. I followed the lead of Mr. Bennett. Saying Lincoln used the N-word does not have the same effect as quoting him precisely. Quoting Lincoln using it four times in a single paragraph, in two different speeches, gave some mod the vapors. Then it was pointed out that FR was banning the actual words of the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln. harrowup's "South shall rise again" remark is pure harrowup bullshit. My roots do go deep into the South. The South Bronx. I mostly discussed the legal matters as they stood in the 1860s. That had nothing to do with the South rising, or not rising, in modern times. Albert Taylor Bledsoe wrote his 1866 book, "Is Davis a Traitor; or Was Secession a Constitutional Right Previous to the War of 1861?" republished in 1915 as "The War Between the States; or Was Secession a Constitutional Right Previous to the War of 1861-65?" I quoted from the preface with some regularity. Argument about whether secession was constitutionally prohibited in 1861 does not say anything about the state of the law in 1866, much less the 21st century. There were post-war changes to the Federal constitution and many changes to State constitutions. About the only thing nitwit established is that, as usual, he commented without bothering to learn what he was talking about. A slap down in not a slap down because that nitwit claims it to be, in the grand yukon tradition of just making crap up. In his own mind, harrowup is a bathtub admiral in command of a whole fleet of rubber duckies. Try again.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=170924&Disp=79#C79 Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution pretty much makes your demand for a specific federal statute moot. However, if you are serious, check out the IRS website. They'll give you much clearer instructions if you still doubt the strength of the Congressional mandate. As you are still running about like a hamster trying to power up your two brain cells, I might as well point out the idiocy of your master post on that last thread. No, you dumb idiot, Article 1, Section 8 does not make the existence, or non-existence, of a federal income tax statute moot. In relevant part, Article 1, Section 8 provides: That granted Congress plenary power to enact tax laws, limited by a requirement that "all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." If the current law relied only on Art. 1 §8, it would be unconstitutional. The Lincoln administration actually created un unapportioned income tax, and the Internal Revenue Bureau to enforce it. The unapportioned tax was later struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court as unconstitutional. Amendment 16 removed the uniformity restriction from an income tax. The constitutional provisions only establish that Congress may pass laws establishing an income tax (Art 1 §8) and that it may be an unapportioned tax (Amdt 16). The constitutional provisions authorize an unapportioned income tax, but do not establish one. In the absence of an applicable Federal Statute, there would be no tax. Only an idiot would think Art. 1 §8 renders the existence of the Federal Tax Statute moot. Of course, as you are an idiot with a long history of posting idiotic claims, I have a near lifetime supply of material to keep this going as long as you choose. In due time, together we can create a centralized database debunking your bullshit. That will assist the netizens of the world to turn off your seemingly endless stream of noxious emissions. Think of it as a catalytic converter for gasbags.
LOL - hilarious!
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
You're so lucky nolu, the admiral is waiting for gatlin's return from rehab to kick your ass. see "Ground Control to Candidate Paul" thread "Since Gatlin is on holiday, I was going to wait for his return before nailing Charlie Chan's #3 Idiot son, no luck chuck aka dung beetle aka several dozen other monikers that required abandonment due to gross abuse of posting rules and regulations."
Tater is the brains of the outfit? LOL!
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
I really have no comment on the quality of his perceived victory (or yours for that matter)..just pointing out where the exchange may have taken place.
the admiral doesn't have tater's gay houseboy bobble head so he's at a loss for words. tater having a problem kicking that crack (butt) addiction this is the second time in a month he's been on holiday
Lol, 242 page pdf??!! Obsess much? Lol And, a mention by Coral Snake, how impressive!!! Hey, perfesser why don't you use those super detective skills to find out if badeye was thrown out of cp for being an asswipe or were they just plain afraid of him, as he claims, lol
------------------------------------- That's cool. The admiral is the one who claimed to have made mincemeat of me. He remembered it well but absolutely declined to link or identify the alleged event. Even when I rubbed our entire 17-post history in his face, he does not seem able to find it. He will likely find that right after he finds the website at 95.154.230.291. Self-certified White Hat hackers can find that stuff.
www.youtube.com/watch? fea...profilepage&v=ks_duDs76gA Sour Grapes Only! #3 aka Stevie Dung Beetle & his Maggot Band. If your supply is as big as your closet full of depends and viagra, mojoke, Stone is in a world fof hurt for bandwidth. Maybe he should charge you.
Yuck, yuck. I've never threatened to sue anyone online. I did advise CP that they were hosting libel and they could be sued. If they got sued it would have been the doing of Dr. Kopp, not me. So the nitwit thinks I am Steve Gilbert. What an incompetent douchenozzle. He will have to explain how I totally outed myself as Steve/mojo/Dung Beetle. It might be interesting and I might learn something. I have less of a posting history with Steve/Dung Beetle that I had with harrowup. Zero. I've never even met the guy online. Watching harrowup fumble about and mumble splutter is fun. His nonsense about multiple handles is great, coming from that MPD group.
Incredible, nc. You have the entire LP Kloaughn team on your case today over on LP. Man, do you ever know how to stir a hornets nest. Be very careful, however. That group has the BEST and Brightest legal team on the face of the planet: Gatlin, Harrowup and Whitesands, esq., LTD. They may slap you with an investigation as they did myself. And look at me today: humble, obedient and respectful. ROTFL.
Ron Paul Well... he is correct. The bailout somewhat treated the symptom but hardly solved the problem. This approach is how doctors treat patients when what they have is terminal. I don't believe Mr. Paul feels we as a nation are terminal yet. I happen to agree. We do however need to get the popularity up of a person like this. He could use "rock star" status in about four years. GrandIsland posted on 2008-11-11 19:38:50 ET Reply Trace calcon posted on 2011-08-15 12:28:14 ET Reply Trace ROTFL ... slap that donut eating, fat lazy neo-con. GI has BorisY using the graphic now as you know.
i just thought i'd kill some time, poking the gay geezer posse with a stick
GREAT work for an idle moment in time.
Well, today.... the Admiral has a whole new view about his own perspectives. Now, he plays games on LP with his butt buddy yukon: That's also appropriate for his other California nut cases, socalV8/bucky etta alla da udders. harrowup posted on 2011-08-15 18:17:59 ET http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=311936&Disp=153#C153 OK, the Admiral has decided to play on LP when in fact he should be here on LF supporting his opinions of which he has yet to discuss.
this should get them riled up for the evening, #155. To: GrandIsland, harrowup, yukon (#154) If anyone hasn't noticed... most of this sites assholes are from Mexifornia. I'll even concede that the second most asshole state is NY... but I'm the only asshole in LP from NY... So Mexifornia is the cesspool Oh please, you ACLU liberals are just upset your broke asses couldn't even afford a double wide in california, If god thought the US needed an enema, he'd insert the tube in new york, if he had jock itch, he'd have to put the lotion on his wisconsins if he needed a blow job, he'd just call Yukon's BJ emporium in Alaska calcon posted on 2011-08-15 19:21:37 ET Reply Trace Edit
I am fairely sure GI is from: Grand Island Township, Michigan. He is nothing more than an elementary school crosswalk guard. One of his many interests is that he enjoys beating up on little kids when they set up their lemonade stands on weekends under the colour of law. That way during the week, he has their respect crossing them to&fro the local school.
www.youtube.com/watch? fea...profilepage&v=ks_duDs76gA Sour Grapes Only! #3 aka Stevie Dung Beetle & his Maggot Band. Careful bucky; when #3-mojoke-dung beetle etc starts in on a site he has a history of taking over from the locals and insisting on 'cock of the walk' status usually called 'prick in crick' by his former allies. Good luck though. He'll no doubt give you tickets before he manages to get the place black-listed. Just a casual reminder before you decide to get on his wheel. His bearings are rusted.
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#180. To: harrowup, nolu chan, buckeroo (#71)
I'm really surprised a hot shot analyst for The NSA doesn't know the code.
#181. To: Murron (#177)
I don't care how he leaves, it's the leaving part I like.
#182. To: calcon (#180)
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there's not much that doesn't surprise the walter middy of the internet.
#183. To: harrowup, calcon (#182)
Assuming for the moment you mean Thurber's Walter Mitty then you obviously qualify in that you have created a fantasy about yourself and of those of whom you are apparently envious; I can't speak for Gatlin, but I don't recall him ever bragging about his military service, and I certainly know I haven't. Joking about it? Of course. That's what I do.
#184. To: harrowup, Murron, buckeroo (#179)
For better understanding of the real problem here it may help you to understand that when #3 makes a false assumption (collusion) and then charges me with making contradictory statements it makes it impossible to proceed to a solution. When I haven't made a statement the fact that someone else, whether Gatlin, yukon or whoever did, and I differ in my view, fails on its merits to warrant further discussion.
For better understanding of the real problem here it may help you to understand that when #3 makes a false assumption (collusion) [nc - sic] and then charges me with making contradictory statements it makes it impossible to proceed to a solution. When I haven't made a statement the fact that someone else, whether Gatlin, yukon or whoever did, and I differ in my view, fails on its merits to warrant further discussion.
#15. To: Skip Intro (#13)
A military tribunal is a kind of military court designed to try members of enemy forces during wartime, operating outside the scope of conventional criminal and civil proceedings. The judges are military officers and fulfill the role of jurors. Military tribunals are distinct from courts-martial.
Guantanamo Process as a Public Danger
Title: Army Reservist Charged in Border Detention ^
Source: FR
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f ... om/1382800/posts?q=1&&page=501
Published: Apr 14, 2005
Post Date: 2005-04-14 01:31:26 by fitz
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By Jim Robinson
Reason: Pulled.
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#51. To: fitz (#48)
I guess because she claims to have served in some war or to be a veteran of some kind but is always smearing those who have a military background. So I think they're calling her bluff --- prove it or quit trying to use veteran status as an excuse to smear real veterans.
I am a liberal and not a conservative.
12/19/2001
I suspect tpaine is a black-powder kind of guy and the last time I actually used black powder was many moons ago at a pool party not far from the Philadelphia Navy Yard where I was assigned. In any case I couldn't hear for about a week which turned out to be a lucky co-ink-ee-dink since I failed to hear my CO tell me what a fine job I was doing which would have swelled my head and made me obnoxious, rude and overbearing much like Republicans.
5/7/2004
I dare say a military tribunal is far more fair than civilian venues where the highest bidder prevails.
11/28/2001
Service : NAVY
Service Component : RESERVE
Pay Grade : 0-3
Military Specialty : 9294113
Home of Record : Unknown
I dare say a military tribunal is far more fair than civilian venues where the highest bidder prevails
#57. To: harrowup (#54)
I dare say a military tribunal is far more fair than civilian venues where the highest bidder prevails
#58. To: nolu chan (#57)
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#58. To: nolu chan (#57)
You still don't know what context is. Only an anti-government freak would automatically associate evil intent with a government inquiry.
#189. To: mininggold (#60)
I agree. Most people I know who have livestock never take a vacation.
#190. To: harrowup (#186)
Carry on.
Title: FR THREAD PULLED BY JIM ROB 04/18/2005 -- "Tancredo Statement...."
Source: Free Republic
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than after all this, that this poster remains unsanctioned. The last thread that he did this to, ("Army Reservist Charged in Border Detention"), was eventually pulled by Jim Robinson after 742 posts, because the race-baiters had become so flagrant and out of control.
for the bad behavior of just a few, easily identifiable culprits. In fact this solution just provides cover for continued bad behavior by these few (but well known to the administration) repeat offenders. It is time to sanction them with something more severe, suspension at least, and banning in certain cases.
don't send it to the smoky backroom, don't even delete the offensive posts in question (once again, that only provides cover to the race-baiting flame throwers). Leaving their ugly posts standing with a note that the poster has been suspended or banned is a great deterrent to others.
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#104. To: harrowup (#29)
29. To: nolu chan, Boot Hill, Spiff, Gatlin (#1)
As you have addressed this screed to me,
#116. To: harrowup (#114)
You posted the thread.
#140. To: harrowup, fitz (#124)
I never heard of nolu chan so he doesn't count.
#144. To: nolu chan (#140)
From the available user database, downloaded into Adobe Acrobat, nolu chan's posting history fills 5,062 pages. harrowup's posting history fills 764 pages.
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Let's see here; I tell you I have no real interest in the Border
#169. To: harrowup (#164)
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#191. To: nolu chan (#190)
#192. To: nolu chan (#190)
To: Jim Robinson
#193. To: nolu chan, Liberator, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#190)
I want you to notice how those threads usually devolve. A news article about the project is posted, people join in and say things like "Wow! God bless those patriots." and such. Then harrowup and his pack jump in and start race-baiting, slandering, lying, and everything. Read through a couple of the threads and you can see a concerted effort on their part to incite flame wars. It happens nearly every time. They haven't offered a constructive comment that I've seen. It is all attack attack attack.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#194. To: hondo68, nolu chan (#193)
Some things never change. The YukloughnPosse is still using the same technique to derail discussion of anything pro-American, and anti-globalist.
#195. To: harrowup, nolu chan (#191)
#196. To: harrowup (#191)
Title: PLEASE SHOW ME THE LAW REQUIRING US TO PAY INCOME TAX
Source: The Fountain of Truth
Published: Dec 27, 2006
Author: Douglas F. Newman
Post Date: 2006-12-27 20:42:58 by Hello Newman
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Where is the specific federal statute requiring Americans to pay a tax on their personal incomes?
#257. To: echo5sierra (#251)
I didn't see wages in there. Even if it is completely legal, that does not make it moral or right.
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#197. To: hondo68 (#193)
The YukloughnPosse is still using the same technique to derail discussion of anything pro-American, and anti-globalist.
#198. To: nolu chan, harrowup (#196)
#199. To: nolu chan (#196)
#200. To: calcon, harrowup, Gatlin (#187)
typical response by the admiral, gets his ass kicked then claims victory.
#201. To: Thunderbird (#198)
Isn't this what you're are looking for Chan?
NOTE: My post was my own few words along with many of the same quotes used by Lerone Bennett, Jr. in his book, "Forced Into Glory." With one exception, Bennett used elision of the N-word throughout his 650-page book. Bennett advised the reader of that exception on the first page of Chapter 1 (page 5 of the book) writing, "(Since Lincoln supporters are in a state of constant denial, I have not used elision in reporting his use of the offensive word n----r.)"
It is not the design of this book to open the subject of secession. The subjugation of the Southern States, and their acceptance of the terms dictated by the North, may, if the reader please, be considered as having shifted the Federal Government from the basis of compact to that of conquest; and thereby extinguished every claim to the right of secession for the future.
#202. To: harrowup (#199)
Where is the specific federal statute requiring Americans to pay a tax on their personal incomes?
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
#203. To: nolu chan, The Skippy (#202)
I have a near lifetime supply of material to keep this going as long as you choose. In due time, together we can create a centralized database debunking your bullshit. That will assist the netizens of the world to turn off your seemingly endless stream of noxious emissions. Think of it as a catalytic converter for gasbags.
#204. To: nolu chan, liberator, buckeroo (#202)
#205. To: calcon, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#204)
Gatlin is on holiday, I was going to wait for his return
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#206. To: nolu chan (#201)
No. I was looking for an actual slapdown, not imaginary harrowup bullshit.
#207. To: hondo68 (#205)
Tater is the brains of the outfit? LOL!
#208. To: nolu chan (#59)
. It is on pages 185 thru 196 (of 242) of my PDF copy of the CP thread.
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#209. To: Thunderbird (#206)
I really have no comment on the quality of his perceived victory (or yours for that matter)..just pointing out where the exchange may have taken place.
#210. To: nolu chan (#202)
I have a near lifetime supply of material to keep this going as long as you choose.
#211. To: calcon, liberator, buckeroo (#204)
You're so lucky nolu, the admiral is waiting for gatlin's return from rehab to kick your ass. see "Ground Control to Candidate Paul" thread
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=311936&Disp=129#C129
Having lost patience with the dung beetle's #3 routine of constant agitating and since I made a promise to Goldi many years ago not to kick his ass here since he threatens to sue anyone who besmirtches his 'reputation' it was necessary to travel to Robin's pig stye and deal with him over there. Robin, however, banned me after one post so it became necessary to lure him out.
Stone provided the opportunity and little #3 totally outed himself as mojo- dung beetle and now can enjoy the opportunity to find a new moniker to add to his list of internet mayhem.
Someday, I might write a 'true' story about mojo - dung beetle and his escapades but frankly it was only funny once and now is just as boring as he has always been.
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#119. To: GrandIsland (#118)
you look great in that new mall cop uniform, paultard
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#214. To: buckeroo (#213)
#215. To: calcon (#214)
i just thought i'd kill some time, poking the gay geezer posse with a stick
#216. To: nolu chan, harrowup, calcon, socalV8 (#87)
I have been documenting that I presented facts. He can only present the usual crap with no link or source.
#153. To: yukon, calcon, socalV8 buckeroo etta alla da udders (#152)
More likely and appropriately, California conman or convict.
#217. To: buckeroo, socalv8 (#216)
#218. To: calcon (#217)
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#219. To: buckeroo (#216)
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