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Title: MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan Has a Meltdown (Repubs/Dems-"Reckless, Irresponsible and Stupid") Video
Source: MSNBC
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline ... n-over-meltdown-031046281.html
Published: Aug 10, 2011
Author: Dylan Ratigan, msnbc
Post Date: 2011-08-10 22:40:37 by Murron
Keywords: None
Views: 37273
Comments: 72

MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan Has a Meltdown (Repubs/Dems-"Reckless, Irrisponsible and Stupid") Video

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan is mad as hell about the U.S. financial crisis--and he's not gonna take it anymore!

While convening a roundtable discussion on the market meltdown on his eponymous MSNBC show on Tuesday, Ratigan exploded.

"We've got a real problem!" an exasperated Ratigan shouted. "This is a mathematical fact! Tens of trillions of dollars are being extracted from the United States of America. Democrats aren't doing it, Republicans aren't doing it. An entire integrated system, financial system, trading system, taxing system, that was created by both parties over a period of two decades is at work on our entire country right now. And we're sitting here arguing about whether we should do the $4 trillion plan that kicks the can down the road for the president for 2017, or burn the place to the ground, both of which are reckless, irresponsible, and stupid."

"I'm sorry to lose my temper," he continued. "But, I tell you what, I've been coming on TV for three years doing this, and the fact of the matter is that there's a refusal on both the Democratic and the Republican side of the aisle to acknowledge the mathematical problem, which is that the United States of America is being extracted."

Later, on the show's website, Ratigan called it his "epic 'Network' moment."

The clip of the entire rant is worth watching, which you can (and should) do.

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#32. To: war, hondo68 (#28)

Plus he sounds like a wimp.

Based on your post, one of the problems with some folks is that you want spectacular presentation without understanding the contents of the message. It is difficult to manage the multivariate elements of requirements for America, however and to achieve perfect presentation while really directing a message is nearly impossible. And that is why America shall always be SOLD OUT.

Many people just want someone that is an actor; that is the problem with contemporary America's elected leaders: all white teeth and gift for gab and don't accomplish anything but muddle the nation.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-11   11:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war, *Ron Paul for President* (#28)

he sounds like a wimp.

True, he lacks stage presence, and his voice is whiny. But he's still the best thing in sight.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-11   11:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: hondo68 (#33)

and his voice is whiny

That's a generous description. He sounds like he's getting cornholed when he speaks...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   11:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: buckeroo (#32)

I was speaking for "Everyman", I like some of what Paul has to say...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   11:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war (#28)

He [Paul] sounds like a wimp.

And Barry isn't??

Bwaahaa!!

Plus, Barry's a flamer. He doesn't walk, he sashays his skinny gay azz as though he's vogueing down a designer model runway in Frisco.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-11   12:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: war, hondo68 (#34)

He sounds like he's getting cornholed when he speaks...

Isn't that how most Americans feel? It is "bend over" every election; and some posters wonder why a HUGE percentage of Americans don't vote.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-11   12:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mininggold (#31)

When I voted for him I didn't realize he was an Ayn Rand worshiper.

Or else you would have voted for....Gus Hall's corpse??

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-11   12:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Liberator (#36)

sometimes you let out too much information about yourself...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   12:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mcgowanjm (#29)

Ratigan is slowly coming to the realization that he lives in the United States, not in La La Land where reasonable plans work.

Don't worry - he'll apologize for his brief "slip up" and return to doing what he's paid to do - shill for 0bama and the socialist NWO.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-11   12:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: war (#39)

sometimes you let out too much information about yourself...

If projecting were a sport, you'd be Jim Thorpe.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-11   12:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: mcgowanjm (#21) (Edited)

The Fed Res is a Private Central Bank that is Unconstitutional. Since the Panic of 1907 and creation of Standard & Poors....

Like how come S&P gives us a AAA just before going into WWI and WWII...;}

Sometimes you get it right, Jimbo. Sometimes.

Still, you never seem to blame 0bama for anything. That's where you lose hemorrhage cred points.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-11   12:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: war (#35)

I was speaking for "Everyman",

I don't think you can realistically say that you speak for Everyman. And, honestly, I wish you could that way I could get all my data based on your posts.

I like some of what Paul has to say...

Well, I like EVERYTHING he has to say. The torches of personal freedoms and liberty are reignited with Ron Paul this year.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-11   12:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: war (#34)

He sounds like he's getting cornholed when he speaks...

Funny line....made even funnier when you realize it's Barry who's the one who loooves getting cornholed.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-11   12:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeroo (#43)

Well, I like EVERYTHING he has to say. The torches of personal freedoms and liberty are reignited with Ron Paul this year.

Actually those torches he advocates for were and still are..figments. Selling points put in by the founders to win over a skeptical populace.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-11   12:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: buckeroo, hondo68 (#32)

To achieve perfect presentation while really directing a message is nearly impossible. And that is why America shall always be SOLD OUT.

These days (with the advent and success of "multiculturalism" and class-ism), this is because "America" has been successfully shattered into the million pieces the elites aimed for. Operation: 'DIVIDE AND CONQUER' has been a sensational success.

THE Sell Out began in earnest and in broad daylight under Poppa NWO Bush.

The last President to remotely "achieve the perfect presentation" while directing a message that most Americans could believe and truly be inspired by was...Ronald Reagan. And he'd achieve it on several occasions.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-11   12:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Murron (#0)

"We've got a real problem!" an exasperated Ratigan shouted. "This is a mathematical fact! Tens of trillions of dollars are being extracted from the United States of America. Democrats aren't doing it, Republicans aren't doing it. An entire integrated system, financial system, trading system, taxing system, that was created by both parties over a period of two decades is at work on our entire country right now. And we're sitting here arguing about whether we should do the $4 trillion plan that kicks the can down the road for the president for 2017, or burn the place to the ground, both of which are reckless, irresponsible, and stupid."

Who can disagree with basic premise? Not me.


This small group of terrorists [Tea Party members] have made it impossible to spend any money. -- Mike Doyle (D-PA)

jwpegler  posted on  2011-08-11   12:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mininggold (#45)

Selling points put in by the founders to win over a skeptical populace.

If you are not convinced about the absolute break-down of US governance within these contemporary trying times, where are you going? Both of these political parties have lied to us. And they are scrambling with some of the greatest REAL problems of the nation since WW2.

Ron Paul always stood clear and unequivocal throughout his 24 congressional background. Although I am paraphrasing his position, he has maintained quit the BS!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-11   12:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mcgowanjm (#18)

This fuckin madness is about to explode.

IMPLODE

The patco madness ...

dnc union welfare - collective black mail ---

trial lawyers - degenerate lifestyles !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-08-11   12:28:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#34)

getting cornholed

You're the expert on that, so I'll take your word for it.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-08-11   12:36:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: buckeroo (#48)

If you are not convinced about the absolute break-down of US governance within these contemporary trying times, where are you going? Both of these political parties have lied to us. And they are scrambling with some of the greatest REAL problems of the nation since WW2.

Ron Paul always stood clear and unequivocal throughout his 24 congressional background. Although I am paraphrasing his position, he has maintained quit the BS!

One of the big problems was when the political parties started listening to the, mainly, corporate lobbyists before they listened to the citizens. Maybe they thought a free market was one of those ideals mentioned in the constitution, yet I can only find tariffs, fees and taxes mentioned as far as trade is concerned.

Paul uses mainly unworkable, some can even say unhuman platitudes as his political positions. His worshiping of Ayn Rand says it all. Her characters are all idealized figments and the world she described as being possible was right out of Grimm's Fairytales.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-11   12:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: hondo68, Liberator (#50)

Libby beat you to the trite response...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   12:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: war, hondo68, Liberator (#52)

Libby beat you to the trite response...

There has got to be a way for collaboration from time to time. There are ways, too. It is called a few rules of respect for personal communications.

Otherwise, we all crash together similar to other chit-chat forums. I consulted my famous eight ball and asked a simple question: Can't we all get along. The answer was revealing, too. "You have asked the wrong question again."

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-11   12:50:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: mcgowanjm (#22)

If the Fed Res Cabal wants you as their Chairman,

you've been vetted as part of the Top 50 000.

Ha.

I like how you pretend at being smart while avoiding anything approaching a serious discussion.

As Fed Chairman, Volker fought against Greenspan and his attempts to weaken the wall between commercial banks and investment houses.

Roll next quip...

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-11   12:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Thunderbird, mcgowanjm (#54)

Ha.

I like how you pretend at being smart while avoiding anything approaching a serious discussion.

You've noticed that too?

Jimmy is a one-sided rolling monologue of enigmatic, ethereal posting. There is no real "debate" of points.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-11   13:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: mininggold (#51)

One of the big problems was when the political parties started listening to the, mainly, corporate lobbyists before they listened to the citizens. Maybe they thought a free market was one of those ideals mentioned in the constitution, yet I can only find tariffs, fees and taxes mentioned as far as trade is concerned.

Corporate entities have been in existence since 1793. They are protected as much as individuals by US law. So, I don't understand your complaint unless you are challenging the FACT that corporations pay taxes. Are you doing that?

Paul uses mainly unworkable [adjective without a noun, fatal error], some can even say unhuman platitudes as his political positions. His worshiping of Ayn Rand says it all. Her characters are all idealized figments and the world she described as being possible was right out of Grimm's Fairytales.

I think I understand your point. Please clarify so I can expand my opinion without going off on a wild-goose chase; I don't like to waste time.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-11   13:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: buckeroo, war, hondo68 (#53)

There has got to be a way for collaboration from time to time. There are ways, too. It is called a few rules of respect for personal communications.

What happens here at LF is a microcosm of Lefty vs. Conservative in real life.

It's a clash of reality vs. delusion. Is any compromise possible?

I consulted my famous eight ball and asked a simple question: Can't we all get along. The answer was revealing, too. "You have asked the wrong question again."

Maybe an Ouija Board might help.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-11   13:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: war (#52)

Libby beat you to the trite response...

You never give me any credit for creativity :-(

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-11   13:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Thunderbird (#54)

As Fed Chairman, Volker fought against Greenspan and his attempts to weaken the wall between commercial banks and investment houses.

Regan begged Reagan to let him fire Volker. Wanted to do it face to face in a two word comversation: "You're fired!" Wall Street caught wind of it and the market tanked. So much so that Reagan was forced to make a same day statement of support for Volker that, IIRC, he managed to do without retching.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   13:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: buckeroo (#43)

We had every right to frag Bin Laden...every goddam right under every bit of goddam international law that has been recognized since humans hit the High Seas.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   13:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: buckeroo (#53) (Edited)

Otherwise, we all crash together similar to other chit-chat forums. I consulted my famous eight ball and asked a simple question: Can't we all get along. The answer was revealing, too. "You have asked the wrong question again."

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   13:17:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Liberator (#57)

Maybe an Ouija Board might help.

I am afraid of elecktronic energy moving the pointer. Sorry. I am going to consult my personal deck of cards. And, on the side I am learning palmistry, too. So I am personally advancing my education.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-11   13:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: war (#60)

We had every right to frag Bin Laden...every goddam right under every bit of goddam international law that has been recognized since humans hit the High Seas.

Fully agree. But it didn't turn out that way, did it? A pile of GODDAMNED NEO-CONS playing GOD for the good of America. YEA!

Here, we are stuck with a fucking mess because of poor leadership, from TSA checking vaginas of Catholic Nuns by Arabic Muslims with gloves on New Jersey in the name of law. And continuing wars around the world and the largest bills in American history breaking our economic backs that have no obvious outcome.

It is time to retreat. It is same old scratchy record playing over and over again as Vietnam. And as most folks know, I go around and around with others on that point.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-11   13:45:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#61)

I no longer see graphics on the Internet. All you need is an ASCII URL link to the same. Sorry, that is the way it is for me anymore.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-11   13:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: buckeroo (#64)

For image in #61:

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2010/04/magic-8-ball.jpg

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-08-11   14:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: buckeroo (#64)

No worries...It was a graphic of a Magic 8 Ball saying "Concentrate And Ask Again".

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   14:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: buckeroo (#64)

I no longer see graphics on the Internet. All you need is an ASCII URL link to the same. Sorry, that is the way it is for me anymore.

All of that hacking has taken it's toll, eh?

[grin]

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   14:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war (#24)

Greenspan was on Reagan's CEA...

According to wkipedia, Greenspan was on CEA during Ford's term but not Reagan's.

However, he was appointed to replace Tall Paul as Fed Chair in 1987 where he continued to chisel away at the Glass-Steagall firewall for the next twelve years.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-11   15:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Thunderbird (#68) (Edited)

Ooops...it was CFR not CEA...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   16:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Thunderbird, lucy's mom, All (#54) (Edited)

I like how you pretend at being smart while avoiding anything approaching a serious discussion.

LMFAO. ;}

A serious discussion, here?

In Fundy Zion Land?

Sure. Let's go. Right now.

Caveat.

How long before A K decides to hide the comments. Thus short circuiting the thread. Cause I ain't wasting my time.

My Position has only gotten stronger the last 6 years. Accelerated with the Debt Ceiling Kabuki Theatre Fiasco.

Let's talk.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-12   8:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Liberator (#55)

?

Jimmy is a one-sided rolling monologue of enigmatic, ethereal posting. There is no real "debate" of points.

exactly. from your side.

Only dis info.

Like this. Deflation is accelerating.

Hyperinflation is a Fed Res Boogie man.

But you won't even type Federal Reserve.

Like it's a god somewhere.

You can reply as to why not one article ever appears on the Federal Reserve here at LF.....tick tock....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-12   8:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Thunderbird, All (#54)

I like how you pretend at being smart

And thank you....;}

Your body perfectly attempts to give you what you pretend to be...

And All Too Soon, outsiders can't tell whether you're pretending or not....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-12   8:41:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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