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Title: Insults, Stupid Arguments, and Lies
Source: PM
URL Source: http://pajamasmedia.com/andrewklava ... ents-and-lies/?singlepage=true
Published: Aug 10, 2011
Author: Andrew Klavan
Post Date: 2011-08-10 20:17:31 by CZ82
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Insults, Stupid Arguments, and Lies

August 8, 2011 - 7:00 am - by Andrew Klavan

As the 9/11 massacre underscored the failure of the left’s multicultural worldview, so the current debt crisis highlights the failure of leftist redistributionism.

In fact, leftism has failed utterly. It has failed everywhere and it has never done anything else but fail. From the murderous, leftist tyrannies of the Soviet Union and China to the soft but nonetheless oppressive and stagnant socialism of a moribund Europe, the relativist, wealth-crushing, overweening state has revealed itself to be an engine of misery and collapse.

This is a disappointment to many. To those who feel they are entitled to the fruits of other people’s labor, to those who feel their good intentions can be brought to fruition by the government, and to those, most of all, who fancy themselves elite, who fancy themselves better able to make moral and economic decisions on your behalf from on high than you, the citizen, can do on your own — to all of these, the failure of leftism is a trauma so great it has yet to be accepted. Rather, in order to distract both their followers and their opponents — and maybe themselves — from the gathering facts on the ground, leftists routinely rely on three well-worn techniques: insults, stupid arguments and lies.

The insults we all know. Disagree with the left and you’re a racist, a sexist, an Islamophobe — whatever. What do such insults even mean, really? Let’s say you oppose Barack Obama — and let’s say you really are a racist — does that mean his share-the-wealth ideology works? Of course not. If you’re a sexist, does that make women less interested in babies or more interested in trucks? If you’re Islamophobic, does that change the odds that the man who murders you will be named Mohammad? We are what we are and the world is what it is regardless of our personal merits and failings. The insults — for the information of all you teabagging terrorists out there — are just the sound of the left indulging in base intimidation, hoping they can keep you from spreading the word that their philosophy has failed — failed always and everywhere.

As for the stupid arguments, they usually involve citing bad individual actions in order to obscure bad underlying principles. Thus when you note the disaster wrought on our economy by Obama’s governing philosophy, leftists counter that, well, George W. Bush spent too much money too. Yes, he did — because, in those moments, W. was operating under the same misguided redistributionist principles as Obama. It’s the principles that are wrong, no matter who holds them.

Likewise, when you point out that Islamism is an evil and oppressive idea, leftists counter that Americans have done many bad things as well. And yes, we have — all nations have — but the liberty we stand for is a good, just as shariah law is a bad, not for some people in some places but for everyone all over.

No group or philosophy is free of its madmen, villains, saints and clowns, but it matters, in the end, what you stand for. In fact, that’s what matters most — and the left stands for a philosophy that has failed.

Finally, the lies. For me, the worst of them are those that misrepresent the true nature of our disagreements — because these lies are intended to turn us against one another. No one, for instance, is arguing about whether the poor and aged should be cared for. We are arguing whether they should be cared for by a federal government that, by its very nature, is prone to power hunger and corruption. No one of good will disagrees about the immorality of institutional racism, but we are arguing about whether the past can be corrected by reverse racism now.

And we are not arguing about whether the United States is perfect. We are arguing whether our problems can be addressed within the framework of constitutional law, small government, unhindered markets, and the resultant liberty these provide.

To address our problems without crippling individual free will or confiscating private property (which amounts to the same thing) — this is the useful and noble enterprise that stands beyond the ruin of the moment. But before the left can join in that enterprise, it must first admit that its own enterprise has failed.

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

But before the left can join in that enterprise, it must first admit that its own enterprise has failed.

Excellent article.

But expecting the left to ever admit failure?

Yeah, that'll happen in my lifetime (eyeroll)

Look at the posts of the leftists that infest this forum- the "stim" wasn't big enough, oBOMBa isn't to blame (it's all the fault of the terrorists, the Japanese earthquake, global warming, Bush I or Bush II, Russia, the EU, (insert anybody/anything you think will stick to the wall here).

They will never, EVER take responsibility.

Indeed, liberalism and leftist viewpoints are simply expressions of life-long mental immaturity, and the inability to adopt the normal rules of society and behavior. They're life-long teeny-boppers, always looking for someone else to live off of- and blame, when life doesn't go their way.

Leftist viewpoints are the product of mental derangement and/or willful ignorance.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-10   21:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Capitalist Eric (#1)

Leftist viewpoints are the product of mental derangement and/or willful ignorance.

If only they would seek help, then I could make a killing investing in "Lithium" stocks..... LOL.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-10   21:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CZ82, Capitalist Eric (#2)

Capitalist Eric: Leftist viewpoints are the product of mental derangement and/or willful ignorance.

CZ82: If only they would seek help, then I could make a killing investing in "Lithium" stocks..... LOL.....

The issues confronted by all of us is not because any one political party; it is because of the GIANT DEM/GOP Party.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-08-10   21:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Capitalist Eric, CZ82 (#1)

They will never, EVER take responsibility.

Indeed, liberalism and leftist viewpoints are simply expressions of life-long mental immaturity, and the inability to adopt the normal rules of society and behavior. They're life-long teeny-boppers, always looking for someone else to live off of- and blame, when life doesn't go their way.

Leftist viewpoints are the product of mental derangement and/or willful ignorance.

Eric, I'd say you hit ALL 12 cylinders.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-10   23:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#2)

If only they [Leftsist] would seek help, then I could make a killing investing in "Lithium" stocks..... LOL.....

HEH!

But...boo-hoo....But who'd be left to maintain our current perverted, kooky, vibrant, communist shangri-la?

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-10   23:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Liberator (#4)

Leftist viewpoints are the product of mental derangement and/or willful ignorance.

I remember what Reagan used to say, "Liberals aren't ignorant, they just know so much that isn't so".....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-11   7:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CZ82 (#0)

As the 9/11 massacre underscored the failure of the left’s multicultural worldview..

Aha...now the title makes sense...the "writer" wants to illustrate it...

The people who attacked us on 9/11 were CIA assets during the Reagan/Bush era...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-11   8:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: CZ82 (#0) (Edited)

To address our problems without crippling individual free will or confiscating private property (which amounts to the same thing) — this is the useful and noble enterprise that stands beyond the ruin of the moment. But before the left can join in that enterprise, it must first admit that its own enterprise has failed.

Fuck You.

Since Reagan and Deficits don;t matter.

And the Hunting Parties unleashed on the Dirty Fuckin Hippies.

All they did was Make Extinct the Liberal, btw.

Since PATCO(one of Only 3 unions to endorse Reagan,btw, LMFAO) was destroyed. Kill the monkey to scare the chickens.

Since the Middle Class has been destroyed as ZERO wage gains were allowed for the Bottom 90%. Only Loans and Debts to mask the Poverty dropping on Joe6Pack's Dream of holding on to what's his. Not advancing, just holding on.

Fuck the Banksters who got $23 Trillion in ZIRP loans, never to be paid back.

There's So Many Undiscovered crimes since REAGAN-deficits don't matter. And All will be resolved before we move forward another inch....;}

"

A July ruling by U.S. District Judge Rebecca Pallmeyer applies to just one of several lawsuits filed in the Burge brutality cases. It means attorneys for plaintiff Michael Tillman can depose Daley, according to Flint Taylor, an attorney for Tillman.

Taylor has scheduled a Sept. 8 deposition, but the city has filed a motion asking Pallmeyer to reconsider her ruling.

Daley, the Cook County state's attorney for much of the 1980s, has been named in three other brutality lawsuits stemming from the torture and abuse that Burge and other detectives are believed to have perpetrated years ago on dozens of African-American men in Chicago — some of whom gave coerced confessions. But as they did in the Tillman case, the city moved to remove Daley from the lawsuits. ...

I can't think of a single, upright Chicago citizen who would not opine in the collegial privacy of a local public house that of course Hizzoner knew something incredibly depraved was up back when Burge was delivering hot, fresh, made-to-order confessions and Daley was marking time as Illinois' chief prosecutor en route to the job of sitting at his daddy's desk on the 5th floor of City Hall.

Also not for nothing, but maybe a metaphor that spreads its arms wide enough to us both the words "reckless" and "meter" when describing the dough the City may have to spend to pay its way out of one of Da Mare's little fiascoes was not the best-thought-out sentence construction ever to waft from the office of Da New Mare.

This is why you have 1,000 Public Information Officers scampering all over Mordor, Rahm.

-drifglass

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-11   9:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8) (Edited)

From time to time, someone under 30 will ask me, "When did this all begin, America's downward slide?" They say they've heard of a time when working people could raise a family and send the kids to college on just one parent's income (and that college in states like California and New York was almost free).

That anyone who wanted a decent paying job could get one. That people only worked five days a week, eight hours a day, got the whole weekend off and had a paid vacation every summer.

That many jobs were union jobs, from baggers at the grocery store to the guy painting your house, and this meant that no matter how "lowly" your job was you had guarantees of a pension, occasional raises, health insurance and someone to stick up for you if you were unfairly treated.

Young people have heard of this mythical time -- but it was no myth, it was real. And when they ask, "When did this all end?", I say, "It ended on this day: August 5th, 1981."

Beginning on this date, 30 years ago, Big Business and the Right Wing decided to "go for it" -- to see if they could actually destroy the middle class so that they could become richer themselves.

And they've succeeded.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-11   9:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

tick tock....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-11   9:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#3)

The issues confronted by all of us is not because any one political party; it is because of the GIANT DEM/GOP Party.

True.

The GOP is leftist-lite. The DNC is hard leftist.

The only group representing anything even remotely resembling the values that built this country... is the Tea Party.

And they're not even that good...

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-11   12:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mcgowanjm (#9)

From time to time, someone under 30 will ask me, "When did this all begin, America's downward slide?" They say they've heard of a time when working people could raise a family and send the kids to college on just one parent's income (and that college in states like California and New York was almost free).

That anyone who wanted a decent paying job could get one. That people only worked five days a week, eight hours a day, got the whole weekend off and had a paid vacation every summer.

That many jobs were union jobs, from baggers at the grocery store to the guy painting your house, and this meant that no matter how "lowly" your job was you had guarantees of a pension, occasional raises, health insurance and someone to stick up for you if you were unfairly treated.

Young people have heard of this mythical time -- but it was no myth, it was real. And when they ask, "When did this all end?", I say, "It ended on this day: August 5th, 1981."

Beginning on this date, 30 years ago, Big Business and the Right Wing decided to "go for it" -- to see if they could actually destroy the middle class so that they could become richer themselves.

And they've succeeded.

Corps saw all that those wasted off hours and the wifey's hours totally wasted taking care of the kids when a cheap nanny or illegal could do it far less and decided to change the landscape of America.

I hope they now like what they see but all I hear from them is bitching about the results they created.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-11   12:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mcgowanjm (#8)

Fuck You.

Why thank you, I didn't know you cared......

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-11   16:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#3)

The issues confronted by all of us is not because any one political party; it is because of the GIANT DEM/GOP Party.

I'm surprised you didn't add in the American people too, they are just as responsible.... for believing all of the bullshit the politicians and media feed them and electing them into office.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-11   16:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mininggold (#12)

I hope they now like what they see but all I hear from them is bitching about the results they created.

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They will continue to shrink the world they're in to ignore any outside perturbations...

Case in Point:

PM Cameron will now shut down social media sites whenever riots take hold.

The problem will not be for the rioters.... anarchism is what they feed on....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-12   8:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CZ82 (#13)

Why thank you, I didn't know you cared......

Sure you did.

I send you love letters all the time.

You ignore them the way the Elite ignore anarchy....

with difficulty...

BTW:

Elimination of the Left, which us the point of your screed above, simply moves the Spectrum further out....

into anarchy...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-12   8:29:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: All (#16)

Children will learn.

It most likely won't be what you want.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-12   8:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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