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Title: Seduced and Abandoned
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Canada Free Press
URL Source: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/39169
Published: Aug 5, 2011
Author: Michael Oberndorf
Post Date: 2011-08-06 10:50:28 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 12775
Comments: 27
We are all pretty much aware that many of our elected representatives are not heavily endowed with functioning brain cells, especially the ones called Senators. However, stupidity alone is not enough to explain the unmitigated betrayal of America, her constitution, her people, and her future that the vote for the Budget Control Act of 2011 represents. These clowns have been around long enough to know exactly what they were doing. Recent polls have shown that between 70 and 80 percent of Americans – Republicans, Independents, and Democrats – oppose raising the debt ceiling to allow more borrowing. They also oppose more government spending of this borrowed money. And they also oppose raising taxes on We, the Already Overtaxed People to get even more money to feed their spending addiction. Knowing, as poll-driven politicians must, that Americans were adamantly against a bill that would clearly result in economic disaster, they voted for it anyway. Like crack addicts holding up a 7-11, knowing the consequences, but doing it anyway, n’est pas? Like true, mentally ill addicts, they have rationalized to themselves all sorts of lies as to why the unacceptable is acceptable, why wrong is actually right, why black is actually white, and why day is actually night, and why treason is patriotic. In the Senate, only 19 Republicans voted against this unconstitutional bomb, this economic daisy-cutter, thrown by Obama-Soetoro, Harry Reid, and the running dog “leadership” of the Republican Party. I strongly urge everyone to work to de-elect every single one of the traitors who voted in favor of this nation-killing legislation, both Republican and Democrat. I’d include socialist, too, but Bernie Sanders actually voted against it. However, the Senate is not alone in harboring willful miscreants. In the House, only 66 Republicans voted against turning America into a Third World, neo-fascist dictatorship (clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll690.xml). So much for the lie that conservatives – or even, Americans – are in control of the House. And just so you know, the fascist Democrats who voted against it did so because it didn’t raise the debt ceiling high enough, nor did it have massive tax increases. This whole despicable display of unabashed contempt for the Constitution, for the wishes of the American people, for truth, for the rule of law, and for freedom will be, for many, the tipping point. For opposing a law that will add at least $7,000,000,000,000.00 to our already crushing debt - and probably a lot more, given that it will surely cause interest rates on the debt to rise - a law that puts dictatorial power in the hands of a “committee” that is more like a Soviet commissariat, a law that will wreck the constitutionally mandated balance of powers regarding borrowing and spending, for opposing all this un-American, unconstitutional, fascism, we have been branded as hostage-taking terrorists. Folks, we have another unconstitutional law, the so-called Patriot Act, that allows all sorts of nasty things to be done to people whom the government decides are terrorists. Joe Biden, who in spite of having an IQ of about room temperature is our Vice President, has publicly called us terrorists. So have half of the neo-fascists in the Democrat Party, and the Ministry of Propaganda, aka, the “mainstream” media. It does not take a political genius to see where this is likely to lead. Obama-Soetoro claimed that the Budget Control Act would protect global stock markets. Granted, he is only marginally intelligent, and so ignorant that he may actually have believed his own bald-faced lie. However, the rest of us knew that the market crash we are witnessing would happen, as well as the continued collapse into recession. We – meaning the scant 53 percent of us who actually pay taxes – also know that we and our children and our grandchildren will be tax-slaves, with everything we earn taken from us to pay the interest on a never ending, never shrinking debt, interest that goes to already fabulously wealthy foreign and domestic fascist bankers – does “Federal Reserve” ring a bell? The simple truth is that if we know all this, then the traitors on Capitol Hill who wrote, promoted, and voted for this abomination knew it too. Our best, and perhaps only, hope is our Tea Parties. We all need to get active, NOW. We need to take every action we can think of, from starting recall campaigns against Senators and Congressmen who have broken their oaths to support and defend the Constitution, to finding and supporting candidates to replace them and/or run against them in 2012. And we need to seriously discuss what we will do if those in power commit fraud and steal the elections. To hesitate is to be lost.
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#1. To: We The People (#0)
Too bad the tea party is more unpopular than even Democrats.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
That would be too bad, if it were true.
Here is freshman Democrat Senator Chris Coons speaking before casting a NO vote on reauthorization of the Patriot Act May 26, 2011
So then you think a Democrat is the same as an "Obama Lib"?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
You all look alike to me. Is a liberal not a liberal now? See, I can throw out snide one liners too. However, I'd prefer not to. I'm willing to start over and actually have adult conversations where we treat each other with respect. Maybe we would even start a trend. What do you think about that?
What do you think about that? How can I take you seriously when you post articles with language like this: ...only 19 Republicans voted against this unconstitutional bomb, this economic daisy-cutter, thrown by Obama-Soetoro, Harry Reid, and the running dog “leadership”...
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
How can I take you seriously when you post articles with language like this: ...only 19 Republicans voted against this unconstitutional bomb, this economic daisy-cutter, thrown by Obama-Soetoro, Harry Reid, and the running dog “leadership”... You could start with making the distinction between the poster and the author of the article. Secondly, you shouldn't assume that I agree with every statement that is made in the articles I post. I post some articles that I completely disagree with. I post them for discussions sake. If you disagree with the article or any portion of it, or agree with the article or any portion of it, why don't you tell me why?
Libs live/think emotionally, not logically. Hence, the strawmen and ad hominem b.s.
Go back and review the exchange.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
I have found that to be my experience also. However, some liberals can discuss issues without making it all personal attacks. Are there any here like that, besides war? I have great discussions with war, even though we disagree on most issues. We can both state our opinions and views without making it personal. At least we do so with each other.
OK, I just did. What point are you making? Secondly, pick just one sentence from the article, then tell me why you agree or disagree.
Coons voted right on the patriot act, but is a corporate hack protecting polluters. As Delaware AG he was a jack booted thug, stomping environmentalists. I posted an article or two about him, before the '10 election. He's a phony, voting to kill the anti-Patriot Act, because he knew there were enough votes for it to pass anyway. Christine O'Donnel was both pro liberty, and pro environment.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
The reason I posted his speech opposing the reauthorization of the Patriot Act was to demonstrate that there was plenty of progressive opposition to it. Its a reoccurring theme that seems to elude the conservative mindset.
I am pro-war as well...Tammany Hall influence not withstanding.
Anyone else see the irony here? ONe of the arguments from the the "no new taxes" crowd is that the burden of taxation falls disproportionately on one group of people above all others and that a healthy segment of the population pays [presumably] no income taxes at all. But here the writer is claiming that we are overtaxed. Which one is it?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Which one is it? (2008 statistics)
Good morning war. We're overtaxed. Unless you are the liberal voter base. Then you don't pay any taxes. You just get handouts.
So, if anyone is then, at most, 10% is overtaxed.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Mornin' Rock...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
So why, then, do some argue that the taxes of those 10% should be increased? (and given my family's wages, I certainly have no dog in THIS fight. I'm just trying to understand the logic behind our tax "system" - if there is any) I DO understand the theory behind a progressive tax structure and I'm sure there is a valid basis for it - UP TO A POINT. But if the goal is to maximize revenue (and not to "punish" a class of people who will likely park their assets offshore anyhow), I'd venture to say there are a lot better ways to do it. I'd like to see the income tax replaced with a national sales tax, or some kind of flat tax. But the problem with that is we'll probably end up with those tax structures IN ADDITION TO (not as a replacement) for the income tax.
So who are you advocating should pay more taxes? A federal tax on malt liquor, Thunderbird, Wild Irish Rose, and Mad Dog might help recover some of the food stamp money. Is that what you are advocating?
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
You're assuming that I accept the premise that "we" are overtaxed. I don't. Debt and deficits are not going to be resolved by "cutting" spending and economic growth alone. Taxes HAVE to be raised if we're going to be serious about doing this. No one has ever paid off their debts by reducing their income.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
A very simplistic way of looking at a national economy. I guess if we tax everyone making more than 250,000 dollars a year at 100%, all of our problems are solved.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Which one is it? The writer must be one of 'us' who pay income taxes.
Our income tax is a graduated scale. Different, increasing amounts of income get subject to a certain rate and not one all in rate. At one point, we taxed income over a certain level @ 90%. We also paid down a very good portion of our WWII debt, which was then far higher a % of GDP than it is now, by doing so.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
With such numerous deductions that NOBODY paid anything close to that on any level of income.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Well...the irony is that the AMT was supposed to address that but it now ends up pushing upper middle class earners into a higher effective tax rate.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Our best, and perhaps only, hope is our Tea Parties.
#2. To: lucysmom (#1)
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#3. To: We The People (#0)
Folks, we have another unconstitutional law, the so-called Patriot Act, that allows all sorts of nasty things to be done to people whom the government decides are terrorists. Joe Biden, who in spite of having an IQ of about room temperature is our Vice President, has publicly called us terrorists. So have half of the neo-fascists in the Democrat Party, and the Ministry of Propaganda, aka, the “mainstream” media. It does not take a political genius to see where this is likely to lead.
#4. To: We The People (#2)
That would be too bad, if it were true.
#5. To: lucysmom (#4)
So then you think a Democrat is the same as an "Obama Lib"?
#6. To: We The People (#5)
I'm willing to start over and actually have adult conversations where we treat each other with respect. Maybe we would even start a trend.
#7. To: lucysmom (#6)
What do you think about that?
#8. To: We The People (#7)
If you disagree with the article or any portion of it, or agree with the article or any portion of it, why don't you tell me why?
#9. To: We The People (#7)
Secondly, you shouldn't assume that I agree with every statement that is made in the articles I post. I post some articles that I completely disagree with. I post them for discussions sake.
#10. To: socalv8, war (#8)
Libs live/think emotionally, not logically.
#11. To: lucysmom (#9)
Go back and review the exchange.
#12. To: Thunderbird (#3)
freshman Democrat Senator Chris Coons speaking before casting a NO vote on reauthorization of the Patriot Act
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#13. To: hondo68 (#12)
Coons voted right on the patriot act, but is a corporate hack protecting polluters.
#14. To: We The People (#10)
I have great discussions with war, even though we disagree on most issues.
#15. To: We The People (#0)
And they also oppose raising taxes on We, the Already Overtaxed People to get even more money to feed their spending addiction.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#16. To: war (#15)
(Edited)
Anyone else see the irony here?
No ONe of the arguments from the the "no new taxes" crowd is that the burden of taxation falls disproportionately on one group of people above all others
See For Yourself
The Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 70 Percent of Federal Income Taxes and that a healthy segment of the population pays [presumably] no income taxes at all.
See For Yourself
The Bottom 50 Percent of Earners Paid 2.7 percent of Federal Income Taxes But here the writer is claiming that we are overtaxed.
"We" as in "we who pay income taxes"? What's so hard to understand about that?
#17. To: war (#15)
Which one is it?
#18. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#16)
See For Yourself
The Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 70 Percent of Federal Income Taxes
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#19. To: A K A Stone (#17)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#20. To: war (#18)
So, if anyone is then, at most, 10% is overtaxed.
#21. To: war (#15)
So, if anyone is then, at most, 10% is overtaxed.
#22. To: no gnu taxes (#21)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#23. To: war (#22)
No one has ever paid off their debts by reducing their income.
#24. To: war (#15)
But here the writer is claiming that we are overtaxed.
#25. To: no gnu taxes (#23)
(Edited)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#26. To: war (#25)
At one point, we taxed income over a certain level @ 90%.
#27. To: no gnu taxes (#26)
With such numerous deductions that NOBODY paid anything close to that on any level of income.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
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