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Title: The glorious truth: Tea Party Movement outnumbers Obama Libs!
Source: Canada Free Press
URL Source: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/39186
Published: Aug 6, 2011
Author: Judi McLeod
Post Date: 2011-08-06 10:42:02 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 58813
Comments: 98

The name for Tea Party members hated and feared most by Barack Obama and his cohorts is `patriot’.

That’s why they hurl the names racist, bigot, bitter clinger and domestic terrorist at the Tea Party, and that’s why the Obama running dog mainstream media so desperately works to keep up the big smear.

Even in the midst of all the Obama Regime destruction, America has something to celebrate: Tea Party Patriots are keeping Obama from completing his threatened Fundamental Transformation of America.

No one elected to public office from either side has ever stepped forward to ask Obama who is he to fundamentally transform America. No one.

But from its inception, the Tea Party Movement has never stopped asking.

Freedom lovers everywhere owe the Tea Party admiration and gratitude.

It has long defied belief how far the Obama Regime would go to demonize the Grandmas and Grandpas in the Tea Party Movement.

Thanks to the Gallup Poll, we now know why.

“The percentage of Americans who expressly state that they are supporters of the Tea Party movement is currently about as large at 22 percent of the population as the 21 percent who say they are liberals, according to recent but separate Gallup polls.” (CNSNews.com, Aug. 5, 2011).

Hallelujah!

No wonder why Obama hightails it out of sight most Friday nights, including this one just before the news hit that for the first time in its noble 235-year long history, the USA had been demoted by the reputable Standard & Poor’s.

Laughable that after nearly three years of trying to edge America over the abyss that Obama and his ridiculous ring of czars and movie stars are vastly outnumbered by the “enemy”.

Not only are the Lib-Left seriously outnumbered by the Tea Party, at 41 percent of the population, self-described conservatives outnumber both Tea Party movement supporters and liberals by nearly 2-to-1.

For Obama, there’s no Hope and Change to be seen anywhere in the facts presented by Gallup.

Most laughably, it wasn’t the no-Social-Security-check scare tactics trotted out in the Debt Ceiling fiasco that drove most people into the arms of the Tea Party Movement: “In fact, the July 27 and August 2 polls showed a considerably smaller percentage of Americans saying they were Tea Party supporters than previous Gallup polls conducted over three-and-four-day periods.

“For example, a Gallup survey conducted April 20-23 of this year, found that 30 percent of Americans described themselves as Tea Party supporters. Similarly, a Gallup poll conducted Jan. 14-16 this year also found that 30% of Americans described themselves as Tea Party supporters.

“In previous Gallup polling, Tea Party support hit a low of 26 percent in a series of polls conducted in October 2010—immediately before the midterm congressional elections—and peaked at 36 percent on Nov. 4-7, 2010—immediately after the midterm congressional elections.”

Interestingly, in polling conducted through the first half of 2011, and published Aug. 1, Gallup discovered that 21 percent of Americans described themselves as liberals. That is the same percentage that described themselves as liberals in Gallup surveys in 2010 and 2009.

Even with all the unelected czars at his command; even with the mainstream media in his tank; even with all the money and all the propaganda in his bag of tricks, the Liberals are not growing under the Marxist in Chief, but remain at a breathtaking standstill.

For all of his arrogance, for all of his omnipotence, Obama’s big plans for the Transformation of America have hit the brick wall of something admired worldwide: the undying passion of American patriotism.

Little David’s everywhere are shouting to Goliath: “Bring it on, Baby!”

No wonder Obama, boss ladies Michelle and Valerie Jarrett are holed up at Camp David after dancing barefoot with tinseltown celebrities in the White House Rose Garden this weekend!

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#1. To: We The People (#0)

The glorious truth: Tea Party Movement outnumbers Obama Libs!

Is Canada Free Press still working the Obama birth certificate hoax?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   10:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom (#1)

I don't know. Have you looked to see?

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   11:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: We The People (#2)

I don't know.

You seem to spend time there, so I thought you would know.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   11:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#0) (Edited)

You seem to start conversations with strawmen and ad hominems.

Do you have any comment on the polls reported in this article?

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   11:14:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#1) (Edited)

Strawman:

The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument:

1. Person A has position X.

2. Person B disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y (or a completely different issue). Thus, Y is a resulting distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways.

3. Person B attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position (or an entirely different issue completely) fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   11:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#1)

Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being.

Most stoopid quote ever.

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-06   11:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: socalv8 (#6)

Most stoopid quote ever.

Not surprised you think so.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   11:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: We The People (#5)

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position (or an entirely different issue completely) fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.

You do a pretty good job of describing the article you posted.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   11:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#8) (Edited)

You do a pretty good job of describing the article you posted.

If you disagree with the article, why don't you tell me why?

Make an argument against the points in the article, instead of using strawmen, attacking the messenger ad hominems, or directing your comments towards the me personally.

Have you been an internet forum denizen for so long that you've forgotten how to have a polite and adult discussion?

Here's an example of how to start out...

"I disagree with this article because..."

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   12:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#7)

Not surprised you think so.

Ditto.

socalv8  posted on  2011-08-06   12:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: We The People (#0)

“The percentage of Americans who expressly state that they are supporters of the Tea Party movement is currently about as large at 22 percent of the population as the 21 percent who say they are liberals, according to recent but separate Gallup polls.” (CNSNews.com, Aug. 5, 2011).

Anybody with any sense already knew they outnumbered Libtards..... And by a much greater margin that what the numbers show......

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-06   12:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: We The People (#9) (Edited)

Make an argument against the points in the article, instead of using strawmen, attacking the messenger ad hominems, or directing your comments towards the me personally.

Have you been an internet forum denizen for so long that you've forgotten how to have a polite and adult discussion?

Here's an example of how to start out...

"I disagree with this article because..."

Let me get this straight, you seek polite, adult discussion by posting articles that contain stuff like:

Even with all the unelected czars at his command; even with the mainstream media in his tank; even with all the money and all the propaganda in his bag of tricks, the Liberals are not growing under the Marxist in Chief, but remain at a breathtaking standstill.

Either you're pulling my leg, are in deep denial, or are just plain dishonest and hope your fellow travelers won't notice. (That's an "ad hominem", son)

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   12:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#12)

Let me get this straight, you seek polite, adult discussion by posting articles that contain stuff like:

Even with all the unelected czars at his command; even with the mainstream media in his tank; even with all the money and all the propaganda in his bag of tricks, the Liberals are not growing under the Marxist in Chief, but remain at a breathtaking standstill.

Either you're pulling my leg, are in deep denial, or are just plain dishonest and hope your fellow travelers won't notice. (That's an "ad hominem", son)

That's why making a distinction between the author of the article and the poster of the article is so important. Tell me why you disagree with the article. I challenge you to JUST ONCE, direct your comments toward the article and what's stated in the article, and not toward me personally.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   12:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: We The People (#13)

That's why making a distinction between the author of the article and the poster of the article is so important.

I began by asking you a question about the site you posting the article from. You have chosen to make it a personal issue.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   12:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#14) (Edited)

You began with an attack the messenger ad hominem, and also the strawman of Obama's BC. You never mentioned the article posted.

I guess I assumed your intent was to discredit the site, therefor discrediting the article posted from the site which then would discredit the Gallup polls listed in the article.

If I was wrong, then I apologize. Was I wrong?

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   12:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: We The People, lucysmom, mininggold (#15)

To: Lucysmom:

"You began with an attack the messenger ad hominem, and also the strawman of Obama's BC. You never mentioned the article posted.

I guess I assumed your intent was to discredit the site, therefor discrediting the article posted from the site which then would discredit the Gallup polls listed in the article.

If I was wrong, then I apologize. Was I wrong?

*popping popcorn*

I'm going to predict LF's usual forum liberal/progressives/0bama-Groupies will eventually avoid taking you on honestly and instead engage you via the same ad hominem, and strawmen rebuttals the yukons ineffectively tried in vain to use.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-06   12:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: We The People (#15)

I guess I assumed your intent was to discredit the site, therefor discrediting the article posted from the site which then would discredit the Gallup polls listed in the article.

Yes indeed, my intent was to discredit the site, that however is, or was not an attack on you.

I would assume that if your intent, and I am projecting here, were, as you claim, to have a discussion about this particular Gallup poll, you would have found an article that approaches the subject with the maturity and politeness you ask of me.

Thank you for your participation in this exchange, it has been most instructive.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   12:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#14) (Edited)

I began by asking you a question about the site you posting the article from. You have chosen to make it a personal issue.

I couldn't find any actual proof of the author's assertions other than the ONE poll, but this tells you everything you need to know.

"Copyright © Canada Free Press

Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the print media. A former Toronto Sun columnist, she also worked for the Kingston Whig Standard. Her work has appeared on Rush Limbaugh, Newsmax.com, Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and Glenn Beck."

I wonder why she doesn't write for WND?

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-06   12:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: We The People, war, mininggold, lucysmom, Skop Intro, Godwinson, Brian S, Thunderbird, Fred Mertz (#0)

Even in the midst of all the Obama Regime destruction, America has something to celebrate: Tea Party Patriots are keeping Obama from completing his threatened Fundamental Transformation of America.

No one elected to public office from either side has ever stepped forward to ask Obama who he is to fundamentally transform America. No one.

But from its inception, the Tea Party Movement has never stopped asking.

Freedom lovers everywhere owe the Tea Party admiration and gratitude.

HEAR HEAR!!

Hey libs:

Please step forward and explain what Obama's Plan was/is to "fundamentally transform America."

Moreover, please tell us in your respective opinion: HOW IS THE MISSION GOING SO FAR??

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-06   12:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom (#17)

Thank you for your participation in this exchange, it has been most instructive.

It 's been as "instructive" as watching the Lead Donkey take one more crap on the White House lawn... But I suppose it's an "education" for you??

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-06   12:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lucysmom (#17)

Yes indeed, my intent was to discredit the site, that however is, or was not an attack on you.

Thank you for that honest and candid answer.

I would assume that if your intent, and I am projecting here, were, as you claim, to have a discussion about this particular Gallup poll, you would have found an article that approaches the subject with the maturity and politeness you ask of me.

I would actually love to find a site that simply brings us the news. Can you point me to a site that does that? One rarely finds a pure news article anymore. 'News' sites have become news with views anymore. You either get spin from the globalist left or from warhawk neoconservatives.

I could post articles from the mainstream sites, but then I'd be getting spin from the left.

I'll try to find more balanced news, but it's a tall order.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   12:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#18)

I wonder why she doesn't write for WND?

Her particular niche is filled.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   13:00:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mininggold (#18)

I couldn't find any actual proof of the author's assertions other than the ONE poll, but this tells you everything you need to know.

"Copyright © Canada Free Press

Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the print media. A former Toronto Sun columnist, she also worked for the Kingston Whig Standard. Her work has appeared on Rush Limbaugh, Newsmax.com, Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and Glenn Beck."

Attacking the messenger?

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   13:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: We The People (#21)

I would actually love to find a site that simply brings us the news. Can you point me to a site that does that?

In this case, I would go to the source - Gallup.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   13:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Liberator (#19)

Please step forward and explain what Obama's Plan was/is to "fundamentally transform America."

It appears that no one wants to address the article with any kind of an actual rebuttal.

They want to either attack the messenger (the author) or the poster.

Has this site really gone that far backwards? Are biting one liners the standard here? Is there anyone here who actually wants to discuss the issues?

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   13:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lucysmom (#24)

In this case, I would go to the source - Gallup.

I was just there, looking for the results of this very poll. I haven't found it yet.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   13:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: We The People (#23)

Attacking the messenger?

Her history is published with the article and I brought it up for poster perusal. YOU are the one calling it an attack.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-06   13:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: We The People (#25)

To: Liberator

Please step forward and explain what Obama's Plan was/is to "fundamentally transform America." It appears that no one wants to address the article with any kind of an actual rebuttal.

They want to either attack the messenger (the author) or the poster.

Has this site really gone that far backwards? Are biting one liners the standard here? Is there anyone here who actually wants to discuss the issues?

It's an opinion piece based on one poll and hence can't be rebutted.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-06   13:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#8)

(WTP) This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position (or an entirely different issue completely) fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.

(LM) You do a pretty good job of describing the article you posted.

Lol..you're right.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-06   13:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator, We The People, war, mininggold, lucysmom, Skop Intro, Brian S, Thunderbird, Fred Mertz (#19)

Freedom lovers everywhere owe the Tea Party admiration and gratitude.

HEAR HEAR!!

LOL!

See my tagline below. Your sabotaging of America by adhering to a failed mythology on govt/private sector relations is entertaining.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-06   14:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: We The People (#0)

The name for Tea Party members hated and feared most by Barack Obama and his cohorts is `patriot’.

I noticed Sarah Palin has started using the phrase "tea party patriots". We should follow her lead and use the same language.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-08-06   14:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mininggold (#27)

Her history is published with the article and I brought it up for poster perusal. YOU are the one calling it an attack.

LOL!

That would be easy to believe had you brought ANYTHING from the article also up for poster perusal. But you don't want to talk about any statements made in the article, or any political beliefs, stances or views, or even the Gallup polls stated in the article, you just want more endless, childish, forum oneupmanship. You're a yukon. You just want someone to argue with.

Well, have at it, but if you demand to engage in it, I'm afraid you'll have to do it without me.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   11:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: We The People, Thunderbird (#32) (Edited)

That would be easy to believe had you brought ANYTHING from the article also up for poster perusal. But you don't want to talk about any statements made in the article, or any political beliefs, stances or views, or even the Gallup polls stated in the article, you just want more endless, childish, forum oneupmanship. You're a yukon. You just want someone to argue with.

Well, have at it, but if you demand to engage in it, I'm afraid you'll have to do it without me.

Evidently Thunderbird has you pegged to a T. Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll, which is the author's perogative. But it means she doesn't care if she's wrong or not as long as she can make her point.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: We The People (#25) (Edited)

It appears that no one wants to address the article with any kind of an actual rebuttal.

They want to either attack the messenger (the author) or the poster.

Of course not. This forum is infested with statist hard-core leftists, liberals, and moonbats.

Has this site really gone that far backwards?

At times, yes.

Are biting one liners the standard here?

As long as there exists a cabal of Leftist yukons, that is indeed the case.

Is there anyone here who actually wants to discuss the issues?

Don't rely on the resident low-rent Leftists; They're just here just to shill for and spout the usual Leftist propaganda. They are the yukons of the Left.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#31)

I noticed Sarah Palin has started using the phrase "tea party patriots". We should follow her lead and use the same language.

You follow her lead, the rest of us will laugh.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Godwinson, We The People (#30)

See my tagline below.

Sorry, no can do.

The voluminous level of Leftist, pro-0bama propaganda and spam you already churn out and is quite enough, thank you.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#35)

The rest of us will laugh.

Go ahead - give us your best maniacal 'Dark Side of the Moon' laugh.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mininggold, We The People, Thunderbird (#33)

Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll, which is the author's perogative.

LF is a forum, remember?? Threads are up for discussion, criticism, praise, etc.

DUH.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Liberator (#37)

Go ahead - give us your best maniacal 'Dark Side of the Moon' laugh.

Ignore post. Too silly.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator (#38)

LF is a forum, remember?? Threads are up for discussion, criticism, praise, etc.

DUH.

Ignore post. Redundant

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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