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Title: The glorious truth: Tea Party Movement outnumbers Obama Libs!
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Canada Free Press
URL Source: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/39186
Published: Aug 6, 2011
Author: Judi McLeod
Post Date: 2011-08-06 10:42:02 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 56504
Comments: 98
The name for Tea Party members hated and feared most by Barack Obama and his cohorts is `patriot’. That’s why they hurl the names racist, bigot, bitter clinger and domestic terrorist at the Tea Party, and that’s why the Obama running dog mainstream media so desperately works to keep up the big smear. Even in the midst of all the Obama Regime destruction, America has something to celebrate: Tea Party Patriots are keeping Obama from completing his threatened Fundamental Transformation of America. No one elected to public office from either side has ever stepped forward to ask Obama who is he to fundamentally transform America. No one. But from its inception, the Tea Party Movement has never stopped asking. Freedom lovers everywhere owe the Tea Party admiration and gratitude. It has long defied belief how far the Obama Regime would go to demonize the Grandmas and Grandpas in the Tea Party Movement. Thanks to the Gallup Poll, we now know why. “The percentage of Americans who expressly state that they are supporters of the Tea Party movement is currently about as large at 22 percent of the population as the 21 percent who say they are liberals, according to recent but separate Gallup polls.” (CNSNews.com, Aug. 5, 2011). Hallelujah! No wonder why Obama hightails it out of sight most Friday nights, including this one just before the news hit that for the first time in its noble 235-year long history, the USA had been demoted by the reputable Standard & Poor’s. Laughable that after nearly three years of trying to edge America over the abyss that Obama and his ridiculous ring of czars and movie stars are vastly outnumbered by the “enemy”. Not only are the Lib-Left seriously outnumbered by the Tea Party, at 41 percent of the population, self-described conservatives outnumber both Tea Party movement supporters and liberals by nearly 2-to-1. For Obama, there’s no Hope and Change to be seen anywhere in the facts presented by Gallup. Most laughably, it wasn’t the no-Social-Security-check scare tactics trotted out in the Debt Ceiling fiasco that drove most people into the arms of the Tea Party Movement: “In fact, the July 27 and August 2 polls showed a considerably smaller percentage of Americans saying they were Tea Party supporters than previous Gallup polls conducted over three-and-four-day periods. “For example, a Gallup survey conducted April 20-23 of this year, found that 30 percent of Americans described themselves as Tea Party supporters. Similarly, a Gallup poll conducted Jan. 14-16 this year also found that 30% of Americans described themselves as Tea Party supporters. “In previous Gallup polling, Tea Party support hit a low of 26 percent in a series of polls conducted in October 2010—immediately before the midterm congressional elections—and peaked at 36 percent on Nov. 4-7, 2010—immediately after the midterm congressional elections.” Interestingly, in polling conducted through the first half of 2011, and published Aug. 1, Gallup discovered that 21 percent of Americans described themselves as liberals. That is the same percentage that described themselves as liberals in Gallup surveys in 2010 and 2009. Even with all the unelected czars at his command; even with the mainstream media in his tank; even with all the money and all the propaganda in his bag of tricks, the Liberals are not growing under the Marxist in Chief, but remain at a breathtaking standstill. For all of his arrogance, for all of his omnipotence, Obama’s big plans for the Transformation of America have hit the brick wall of something admired worldwide: the undying passion of American patriotism. Little David’s everywhere are shouting to Goliath: “Bring it on, Baby!” No wonder Obama, boss ladies Michelle and Valerie Jarrett are holed up at Camp David after dancing barefoot with tinseltown celebrities in the White House Rose Garden this weekend!
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#1. To: We The People (#0)
Is Canada Free Press still working the Obama birth certificate hoax?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
I don't know. Have you looked to see?
You seem to spend time there, so I thought you would know.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
You seem to start conversations with strawmen and ad hominems. Do you have any comment on the polls reported in this article?
Strawman: The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument: 1. Person A has position X. 2. Person B disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y (or a completely different issue). Thus, Y is a resulting distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways. 3. Person B attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position (or an entirely different issue completely) fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.
Most stoopid quote ever.
Not surprised you think so.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
You do a pretty good job of describing the article you posted.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
If you disagree with the article, why don't you tell me why? Make an argument against the points in the article, instead of using strawmen, attacking the messenger ad hominems, or directing your comments towards the me personally. Have you been an internet forum denizen for so long that you've forgotten how to have a polite and adult discussion? Here's an example of how to start out... "I disagree with this article because..."
Ditto.
Anybody with any sense already knew they outnumbered Libtards..... And by a much greater margin that what the numbers show......
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
Have you been an internet forum denizen for so long that you've forgotten how to have a polite and adult discussion? Here's an example of how to start out... "I disagree with this article because..." Let me get this straight, you seek polite, adult discussion by posting articles that contain stuff like: Even with all the unelected czars at his command; even with the mainstream media in his tank; even with all the money and all the propaganda in his bag of tricks, the Liberals are not growing under the Marxist in Chief, but remain at a breathtaking standstill. Either you're pulling my leg, are in deep denial, or are just plain dishonest and hope your fellow travelers won't notice. (That's an "ad hominem", son)
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Even with all the unelected czars at his command; even with the mainstream media in his tank; even with all the money and all the propaganda in his bag of tricks, the Liberals are not growing under the Marxist in Chief, but remain at a breathtaking standstill. Either you're pulling my leg, are in deep denial, or are just plain dishonest and hope your fellow travelers won't notice. (That's an "ad hominem", son) That's why making a distinction between the author of the article and the poster of the article is so important. Tell me why you disagree with the article. I challenge you to JUST ONCE, direct your comments toward the article and what's stated in the article, and not toward me personally.
I began by asking you a question about the site you posting the article from. You have chosen to make it a personal issue.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
You began with an attack the messenger ad hominem, and also the strawman of Obama's BC. You never mentioned the article posted. I guess I assumed your intent was to discredit the site, therefor discrediting the article posted from the site which then would discredit the Gallup polls listed in the article. If I was wrong, then I apologize. Was I wrong?
"You began with an attack the messenger ad hominem, and also the strawman of Obama's BC. You never mentioned the article posted. I guess I assumed your intent was to discredit the site, therefor discrediting the article posted from the site which then would discredit the Gallup polls listed in the article. If I was wrong, then I apologize. Was I wrong? *popping popcorn* I'm going to predict LF's usual forum liberal/progressives/0bama-Groupies will eventually avoid taking you on honestly and instead engage you via the same ad hominem, and strawmen rebuttals the yukons ineffectively tried in vain to use.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Yes indeed, my intent was to discredit the site, that however is, or was not an attack on you. I would assume that if your intent, and I am projecting here, were, as you claim, to have a discussion about this particular Gallup poll, you would have found an article that approaches the subject with the maturity and politeness you ask of me. Thank you for your participation in this exchange, it has been most instructive.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
I couldn't find any actual proof of the author's assertions other than the ONE poll, but this tells you everything you need to know. "Copyright © Canada Free Press Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the print media. A former Toronto Sun columnist, she also worked for the Kingston Whig Standard. Her work has appeared on Rush Limbaugh, Newsmax.com, Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and Glenn Beck." I wonder why she doesn't write for WND?
But from its inception, the Tea Party Movement has never stopped asking. Freedom lovers everywhere owe the Tea Party admiration and gratitude. HEAR HEAR!! Hey libs: Please step forward and explain what Obama's Plan was/is to "fundamentally transform America." Moreover, please tell us in your respective opinion: HOW IS THE MISSION GOING SO FAR??
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
It 's been as "instructive" as watching the Lead Donkey take one more crap on the White House lawn... But I suppose it's an "education" for you??
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Thank you for that honest and candid answer. I would assume that if your intent, and I am projecting here, were, as you claim, to have a discussion about this particular Gallup poll, you would have found an article that approaches the subject with the maturity and politeness you ask of me. I would actually love to find a site that simply brings us the news. Can you point me to a site that does that? One rarely finds a pure news article anymore. 'News' sites have become news with views anymore. You either get spin from the globalist left or from warhawk neoconservatives. I could post articles from the mainstream sites, but then I'd be getting spin from the left. I'll try to find more balanced news, but it's a tall order.
Her particular niche is filled.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
"Copyright © Canada Free Press Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the print media. A former Toronto Sun columnist, she also worked for the Kingston Whig Standard. Her work has appeared on Rush Limbaugh, Newsmax.com, Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and Glenn Beck." Attacking the messenger?
In this case, I would go to the source - Gallup.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
It appears that no one wants to address the article with any kind of an actual rebuttal. They want to either attack the messenger (the author) or the poster. Has this site really gone that far backwards? Are biting one liners the standard here? Is there anyone here who actually wants to discuss the issues?
I was just there, looking for the results of this very poll. I haven't found it yet.
Her history is published with the article and I brought it up for poster perusal. YOU are the one calling it an attack.
Please step forward and explain what Obama's Plan was/is to "fundamentally transform America." It appears that no one wants to address the article with any kind of an actual rebuttal. They want to either attack the messenger (the author) or the poster. Has this site really gone that far backwards? Are biting one liners the standard here? Is there anyone here who actually wants to discuss the issues? It's an opinion piece based on one poll and hence can't be rebutted.
(LM) You do a pretty good job of describing the article you posted. Lol..you're right.
HEAR HEAR!! LOL! See my tagline below. Your sabotaging of America by adhering to a failed mythology on govt/private sector relations is entertaining.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
I noticed Sarah Palin has started using the phrase "tea party patriots". We should follow her lead and use the same language.
LOL! That would be easy to believe had you brought ANYTHING from the article also up for poster perusal. But you don't want to talk about any statements made in the article, or any political beliefs, stances or views, or even the Gallup polls stated in the article, you just want more endless, childish, forum oneupmanship. You're a yukon. You just want someone to argue with. Well, have at it, but if you demand to engage in it, I'm afraid you'll have to do it without me.
Well, have at it, but if you demand to engage in it, I'm afraid you'll have to do it without me. Evidently Thunderbird has you pegged to a T. Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll, which is the author's perogative. But it means she doesn't care if she's wrong or not as long as she can make her point.
They want to either attack the messenger (the author) or the poster. Of course not. This forum is infested with statist hard-core leftists, liberals, and moonbats. Has this site really gone that far backwards? At times, yes. Are biting one liners the standard here? As long as there exists a cabal of Leftist yukons, that is indeed the case. Is there anyone here who actually wants to discuss the issues? Don't rely on the resident low-rent Leftists; They're just here just to shill for and spout the usual Leftist propaganda. They are the yukons of the Left.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
You follow her lead, the rest of us will laugh.
Sorry, no can do. The voluminous level of Leftist, pro-0bama propaganda and spam you already churn out and is quite enough, thank you.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Go ahead - give us your best maniacal 'Dark Side of the Moon' laugh.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
LF is a forum, remember?? Threads are up for discussion, criticism, praise, etc. DUH.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Ignore post. Too silly.
DUH. Ignore post. Redundant
The posted article IS propaganda, what sort of response would a reasonable person expect?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
By giving my opinion Libby took the Goldi tact of implying I was denying others their ability to discuss or post their opinions. The LP school of forum discussion is alive and well here.
I'm going to reply to this part of one sentence, because it's the only part of your reply that actually deals with the article above and not myself personally or your opinion of the author. Yes, I can see that it's an opinion piece and based on one poll. That's why I posted it in 'Opinions/Editorials'. For the record, I believe that polls are BS. They are designed to shape opinion, rather than report it. So I don't believe this poll anymore than I'll believe the next that's posted. However, I believe the message of this poll, that more Americans consider themselves conservative/TEA Party types than those that are far left, is essentially true. The fickle nature of human beings, the loaded questions designed to elicit the response desired and the skewed interpretation of polls make them no more than propaganda. But see, you would never know that was my view, unless we actually discuss the article, like adults.
All political 'news' is propaganda today. This article, though definitely more bombastic than most, is otherwise no different. The Murdoch doctrine of 'news with views' has completely taken over. Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position so as to benefit oneself. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda is often biased, with facts selectively presented (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political, or other type of agenda. Propaganda can be used as a form of political warfare.
So you admit it's propaganda. I disagree with your overly broad attempt to justify it though, and BTW the article is hardly 'bombastic'.
Or you might have just said that to begin with - you know, take some responsibility (like an adult) for expressing your view.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
On 2011-08-07 11:42:35, We The People wrote: To: mininggold, Thunderbird Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll, I'm going to reply to this part of one sentence, because it's the only part of your reply that actually deals with the article above and not myself personally or your opinion of the author. Yes, I can see that it's an opinion piece and based on one poll. That's why I posted it in 'Opinions/Editorials'. For the record, I believe that polls are BS. They are designed to shape opinion, rather than report it. So I don't believe this poll anymore than I'll believe the next that's posted. However, I believe the message of this poll, that more Americans consider themselves conservative/TEA Party types than those that are far left, is essentially true. The fickle nature of human beings, the loaded questions designed to elicit the response desired and the skewed interpretation of polls make them no more than propaganda. But see, you would never know that was my view, unless we actually discuss the article, like adults. You need to stop obsessing over this poorly written opinion piece that offers up nothing for debate.
Uh....yea. I disagree with your overly broad attempt to justify it though, and BTW the article is hardly 'bombastic'. Why am I not shocked?
Why am I not shocked? I'm sure not shocked at your attempts to justify your actions.
I'm not obsessing over anything. I'm simply trying to get some adult discussion of articles started. It appears I may have to look to someone else though.
I don't care. I don't care about your feelings or your opinion of me or if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed since you were born. Get back to me if you ever want to discuss an article.
Get back to me if you ever want to discuss an article. It's already been discussed, but then YOU made this thread all about YOU.
Discussion of said propaganda and a critique?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
LOL!!!!! Can you even make a post about the article on a thread? So far, I see one part of one sentence in this thread where you actually stated anything about the article. Is all you ever do is snipe at your imaginary adversaries?
Is all you ever do is snipe at your imaginary adversaries? You are the one that said it was propaganda. Most here already knew.
LOL! Move on with your life. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I'm still not sure how I did, but I'm sorry. I just posted another couple articles, perhaps you can continue your sniping there.
Or you might have just said that to begin with - you know, take some responsibility (like an adult) for expressing your view. I'm supposed to immediately give my opinion of any article that I post so that I don't get mugged? Why, without discussing the article posted, would ANYONE assume they know what position I might take? Normally, my view always comes out in an article that I post, through the discussion of the article. When others, (and by others I mean you) immediately start with strawmen, Alinsky like attacking the messenger ad hominems and personal attacks against me, I kind of get sidetracked. OK, I'm also not supposed to use wiki as a source. Are there any other rules, imposed by non owners of this forum, that I should be aware of?
There are 6 articles, posted just today by Brian S. He has yet to give his opinion on any of them. I'm wondering why this standard seems to be only for me.
He has yet to give his opinion on any of them. I'm wondering why this standard seems to be only for me. He's not obsessing about posters not commenting about them.
LOL! You have to twist and spin my position to have anything even resembling a point. Yukon does that a lot. I wouldn't care if no one commented on an article that I posted. I'd rather you didn't comment, if your comments have nothing to do with the article.
I wouldn't care if no one commented on an article that I posted. I'd rather you didn't comment, if your comments have nothing to do with the article. So, just show me his posts where he indicates his displeasure about posters not commenting.
'Posters not commenting' has nothing to do with anything that I've said in this thread. 13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.
I concur 100%. For TOO long we have allowed the "Hate America FIRST!" libTURD machine to define the terms of the argument. WE must not allow them to continue IF we are to prevail. "In the beginning there was the word..." is not just a biblical passage it's a statement about setting the parameters of any discussion by controlling the vocabulary of the discussion. So ... The phrase tea partee PATRIOTS works on all levels. It's actually the OBJECTIVE TRUTH. What the American people need to do here is to shout down these libTURD scum whenever they call our fathers and mothers and grand mothers and grand father's "tea baggers". In fact IF anyone ever said that to me face to face about the tea partee they'd be looking UP at the sky next. But you filthy libTURD cunts are cowards and LIARS so you'd never dare anything face to face unless you thought you out numbered us. Because at the very base of your miserable selves you are all craven COWARDS and wannabe bullies. No matter, because we the AMERICAN PEOPLE, WE tea partee PATRIOTS, are going to take OUR country back and STOP this feral gooberment. Believe it. libTURD FILTH.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
. I swear to GOD, when you two gibbering libTURD MORONS talk to each other I can feel the net average intelligence of the world sag to new lows! STOP IT! (For the children.) LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
It is directly relevent to the 'double standard' you posted.
. How many cats do you figure 'ol whinyold has trapped in her old lady cave? 50? 100? How deep do you reckon the cat shit is in her "house"? Did you know that ammonia is explosive in the correct ratio with atmosphere? Did you know that ammonia is also a corrosive? I guess an ammonia rich environment could explain SOME of the nonsense that these gibbering libTURD whores spew. But, really it's avery simple thing. We see it demonstrated here all day every day. "libTURDISM is a mental DISEASE." AND this particular gibbering libTURD skank has entered the terminal phase.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
LOL..... Don't you mean cardboard box!!!
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
. LOL! Talk about abuse of animals! LOL!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
'Posters not commenting' is not and was not any point that I have been trying to make in this thread. You can try to assign that position to me, and it seems that you are trying, but that is not now and never has been any part of my point in this thread and I've not said anything like that. I'll say again, I wouldn't care if no one commented. I do care that all comments have been directed at either myself, the author of the article or the site which published the article. My point about Brian S and his articles in which he does not comment was in direct response to lucysmom saying that I should have stated my opinion first, apparently before anyone else commented. I suggest you read this slowly and completely before commenting any further.
Don't you mean cardboard box!!! You Tea Bagger 'conservatives' seem always so totally obsessed with feces.
I'm wondering why this standard seems to be only for me. Is he complaining? BTW, that sounds like "but mom, Jimmy doesn't have to make his bed".
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
If THAT and YOU weren't so FOUL it would be funny. You repulsive nasty old libTURD skank cunt ... ===== You miserable lying libTURD whore. The ONLY people in this nation that are actually standing up to the feral gooberment and for CONSTITUTIONAL AMERICA right now are the people of the so called "tea partee". They are regular ordinary AMERICANS of ALL races and politics and sex and ages. The tea partee IS AMERICA. Then a slimy libTURD cunt whore such as you uses a slang term for a perverted sex act to describe them, to describe MOST normal ordinary AMERICANS, US? You'd call your mother and grand mother and aunt "tea baggers" IF your DNC/little failed man child messiah "king" obammy told you to, wouldn't you, you noxious libTURD WHORE cunt? It's what you libTURD FILTH DO. YOU did it to the Swiftboat vets, (who are ALL better people than any of you are), when they spoke out with the truth about your POS FRAUD boy. It's what you libTURD FILTH DO. YOU did it with the shooter in Arizona, you TRIED to make him into a "conservative" while the blood of a little girl and the other victims was still warm on the street. It's what you libTURD FILTH DO. ... ad NAUSEAM ... infinitum ... IT'S WHO and WHAT YOU libTURDS ARE. FILTH. ===== Why do libTURD whores stink? libTURD whores stink so that even blind people can hate them. Badda - BING! LOL! Go play in the traffic you nasty old skanky libTURD whore. Do it NOW! LOL!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Meaning that if there is a particular point, or direction you wish the discussion to take, man up and say so, don't whine like a little boy when he hasn't gotten his unexpressed wishes met.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Is he complaining? Should I be the first poster on his threads using strawmen, ad hominems and personal attacks, and see if he complains? BTW, that sounds like "but mom, Jimmy doesn't have to make his bed". Who in the hell is Jimmy???? :P
LOLOL!!! Awwwwww! That's twice you 'ladies' have attacked my 'manhood' in this thread! Once for each of you! The first was for using the word 'petulant'. Should I now say that parts of your anatomy are smelly or something? Is that the level of communication that you seek and are comfortable with? I have not whined at all in this thread or anywhere else. Pointing out your leftist tactics is not whining, but great use of the yukon maneuver! Do I need to post more evidence that what I say is true? I think not. LOL!!
. Can you imagine being trapped in a ward where this foul libTURD bitch is in charge, or at least in a position of power over you? It would have to be in a nut house, because any sane person facing that fate, especially a veteran would DO something to fix it. I really wonder how many decent conservative AMERICANS this noxious bitch has hurt and destroyed while she had power over them? I wouldn't put murder out of discussion here. This insane libTURD bitch would have an orgasam if she had a chance to smother a helpless real American conservative. There is no telling how many people this gibbering libTURD whore has hurt.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
I find it hard to believe that anyone with the reasoning and communication skills of this woman has ever had a position of power over anyone else, except maybe Lucy. Do you know of such a situation?
Why, did I say you smell?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
No, you didn't. Why, do you remember typing something like that? You said I was whining like a little boy, which is one of yukon's favorite moves. He couldn't have honest discussions either. He also had to make it personal, or he couldn't compete either.
Good, we agree on something. You said I was whining like a little boy, which is one of yukon's favorite moves. Why are you invoking Yukon? (If Yukon and I both think you sound like a whiny little boy, maybe there's some merit to the observation.)
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
You Tea Bagger 'conservatives' seem always so totally obsessed with feces. Now where did I use the word feces????? I usually use the terms.... ca ca, crap, turds, poop, excrement, stool, dejection, defecate, shit or butt pirates candy!!!! Feces is just too Left Wing..... yech....
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
I thought I made that analogy clear. Do I need to explain further? (If Yukon and I both think you sound like a whiny little boy, maybe there's some merit to the observation.) That is possible. However, I think it's more probable that you are using the same leftist tactics, (that you have been using since your first #1 post on this thread), that yukon uses. 1. Strawmen 2. Ad Hominem (attacking the messenger) that you have already admitted to 3. Personal attacks Do you agree that those 3 things listed above are typical yukon behavior? I guess we'll have to let others decide, since you and I both have obviously different views of this thread.
It's not the first time. Remember? We both agreed that you were trying to discredit the site that published the article above using the strawman of Obama's BC, without actually referencing the article.
Will the question be Conservative with only "A or B" choices, or will it be Liberal with "C,D,E,F,& G choices too????
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
Do you know of such a situation? Actually it's whinyold who claims to have been a nut house "nurse" on the Kalipornian teat. "My bad". It's difficult to tell these two libTURD whores apart. They are essentially just DNC talking points gibbering foul libTURD lying whore units n and n+1. They aren't actual real people. They are acts. They are FRAUDS. They are insane gibbering FOOLS. Some here think that they are both the same FOOL. I don't know about that and I don't care about it either.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Liberals always hated patriotism. Thanks for confirming.
Do you believe liberals outnumber conservatives in this country?
Your BPD is showing again.
Your BPD is showing again. Your ad homonym is what is showing. Here is a true story. I used to work for two very liberal brothers. I liked and like these guys as they taught me a great deal. We used to have some good political discussions. Sometimes we would argue for an hour then go back work. Anyhow they regularly told me that patriotism and religion were bad things. Bad things isn't there exact words but I can't seem to recall the exact phrase one of them used.
No. Look at Presidential elections since the Great Society. The Democrats have a floor of just over 40%. No matter how bad things are, the Democrat Presidential candidate gets a little over 40%. This represents the leeches who are freeloading off of society. The GOP has a floor of 37%. That was what George Herbert Walker Bush got in 1992 when all independent-minded people (like me) voted for Perot. But, the GOP has a larger upside than the Democrats -- 58% (Reagan 84) to 53% (Obama 08). Core GOP voters (37%) plus core Democrat voters (40%) equal 77%. Swing voters and independent voters comprise 23% of the electorate. That's the history of the last 42 years.
Your obsessive need for splitting is what is showing.
They hate everything but handouts, fags and power..... they are especially good at hating themselves!!!
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
Another fun with numbers article looking for self-validation. The article shows quite clearly that the Tea Party has lost support. Current Tea Party support is @ 21%? “For example, a Gallup survey conducted April 20-23 of this year, found that 30 percent of Americans described themselves as Tea Party supporters. Similarly, a Gallup poll conducted Jan. 14-16 this year also found that 30% of Americans described themselves as Tea Party supporters. “In previous Gallup polling, Tea Party support hit a low of 26 percent in a series of polls conducted in October 2010—immediately before the midterm congressional elections—and peaked at 36 percent on Nov. 4-7, 2010—immediately after the midterm congressional elections.” Interestingly, in polling conducted through the first half of 2011, and published Aug. 1, Gallup discovered that 21 percent of Americans described themselves as liberals. That is the same percentage that described themselves as liberals in Gallup surveys in 2010 and 2009. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Reminds me that reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
They're pretty good at fixing things that aren't broken too.... &;-)
Liberals always hated patriotism. Thanks for confirming. I prefer the term "statist". A classic "liberal" was someone like Thomas Jefferson, and I hate seeing his name besmirched.
A classic "liberal" was someone like Thomas Jefferson, and I hate seeing his name besmirched. Your correct. The statists ruined the not only the word gay but he word liberal.
Yes they regularly break things that don't need fixed. One example would be how they murder babies. Liberal policy is detrimental to the upcoming generations. If they don't kill you they will enslave you with taxes.
What did Reagan say about them..... "Liberals aren't ignorant, they just know so much that isn't so"!!!!!
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
The glorious truth: Tea Party Movement outnumbers Obama Libs!
#2. To: lucysmom (#1)
#3. To: We The People (#2)
I don't know.
#4. To: All (#0)
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#5. To: lucysmom (#1)
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#6. To: lucysmom (#1)
Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being.
#7. To: socalv8 (#6)
Most stoopid quote ever.
#8. To: We The People (#5)
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position (or an entirely different issue completely) fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.
#9. To: lucysmom (#8)
(Edited)
You do a pretty good job of describing the article you posted.
#10. To: lucysmom (#7)
Not surprised you think so.
#11. To: We The People (#0)
“The percentage of Americans who expressly state that they are supporters of the Tea Party movement is currently about as large at 22 percent of the population as the 21 percent who say they are liberals, according to recent but separate Gallup polls.” (CNSNews.com, Aug. 5, 2011).
#12. To: We The People (#9)
(Edited)
Make an argument against the points in the article, instead of using strawmen, attacking the messenger ad hominems, or directing your comments towards the me personally.
#13. To: lucysmom (#12)
Let me get this straight, you seek polite, adult discussion by posting articles that contain stuff like:
#14. To: We The People (#13)
That's why making a distinction between the author of the article and the poster of the article is so important.
#15. To: lucysmom (#14)
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#16. To: We The People, lucysmom, mininggold (#15)
To: Lucysmom:
#17. To: We The People (#15)
I guess I assumed your intent was to discredit the site, therefor discrediting the article posted from the site which then would discredit the Gallup polls listed in the article.
#18. To: lucysmom (#14)
(Edited)
I began by asking you a question about the site you posting the article from. You have chosen to make it a personal issue.
#19. To: We The People, war, mininggold, lucysmom, Skop Intro, Godwinson, Brian S, Thunderbird, Fred Mertz (#0)
Even in the midst of all the Obama Regime destruction, America has something to celebrate: Tea Party Patriots are keeping Obama from completing his threatened Fundamental Transformation of America.
#20. To: lucysmom (#17)
Thank you for your participation in this exchange, it has been most instructive.
#21. To: lucysmom (#17)
Yes indeed, my intent was to discredit the site, that however is, or was not an attack on you.
#22. To: mininggold (#18)
I wonder why she doesn't write for WND?
#23. To: mininggold (#18)
I couldn't find any actual proof of the author's assertions other than the ONE poll, but this tells you everything you need to know.
#24. To: We The People (#21)
I would actually love to find a site that simply brings us the news. Can you point me to a site that does that?
#25. To: Liberator (#19)
Please step forward and explain what Obama's Plan was/is to "fundamentally transform America."
#26. To: lucysmom (#24)
In this case, I would go to the source - Gallup.
#27. To: We The People (#23)
Attacking the messenger?
#28. To: We The People (#25)
To: Liberator
#29. To: lucysmom (#8)
(WTP) This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position (or an entirely different issue completely) fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.
#30. To: Liberator, We The People, war, mininggold, lucysmom, Skop Intro, Brian S, Thunderbird, Fred Mertz (#19)
Freedom lovers everywhere owe the Tea Party admiration and gratitude.
#31. To: We The People (#0)
The name for Tea Party members hated and feared most by Barack Obama and his cohorts is `patriot’.
#32. To: mininggold (#27)
Her history is published with the article and I brought it up for poster perusal. YOU are the one calling it an attack.
#33. To: We The People, Thunderbird (#32)
(Edited)
That would be easy to believe had you brought ANYTHING from the article also up for poster perusal. But you don't want to talk about any statements made in the article, or any political beliefs, stances or views, or even the Gallup polls stated in the article, you just want more endless, childish, forum oneupmanship. You're a yukon. You just want someone to argue with.
#34. To: We The People (#25)
(Edited)
It appears that no one wants to address the article with any kind of an actual rebuttal.
#35. To: A K A Stone (#31)
I noticed Sarah Palin has started using the phrase "tea party patriots". We should follow her lead and use the same language.
#36. To: Godwinson, We The People (#30)
See my tagline below.
#37. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#35)
The rest of us will laugh.
#38. To: mininggold, We The People, Thunderbird (#33)
Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll, which is the author's perogative.
#39. To: Liberator (#37)
Go ahead - give us your best maniacal 'Dark Side of the Moon' laugh.
#40. To: Liberator (#38)
LF is a forum, remember?? Threads are up for discussion, criticism, praise, etc.
#41. To: Liberator (#34)
Don't rely on the resident low-rent Leftists; They're just here just to shill for and spout the usual Leftist propaganda. They are the yukons of the Left.
#42. To: lucysmom, (#41)
The posted article IS propaganda, what sort of response would a reasonable person expect?
#43. To: mininggold, Thunderbird (#33)
Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll,
#44. To: lucysmom (#41)
The posted article IS propaganda,
#45. To: We The People (#44)
All political 'news' is propaganda today. This article, though definitely more bombastic than most, is otherwise no different. The Murdoch doctrine of 'news with views' has completely taken over.
#46. To: We The People (#43)
But see, you would never know that was my view, unless we actually discuss the article, like adults.
#47. To: We The People (#43)
Post Comment Please cut and paste the portion of the text to which you are replying, if any, into the "Quote" box using your computer's editing features.
#48. To: mininggold (#45)
So you admit it's propaganda.
#49. To: We The People (#48)
I disagree with your overly broad attempt to justify it though, and BTW the article is hardly 'bombastic'.
#50. To: mininggold (#47)
You need to stop obsessing over this poorly written opinion piece that offers up nothing for debate.
#51. To: mininggold (#49)
I'm sure not shocked at your attempts to justify your actions.
#52. To: We The People (#51)
(Edited)
I don't care. I don't care about your feelings or your opinion of me or if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed since you were born.
#53. To: lucysmom (#41)
The posted article IS propaganda, what sort of response would a reasonable person expect?
#54. To: mininggold (#52)
It's already been discussed, but then YOU made this thread all about YOU.
#55. To: We The People (#54)
Can you even make a post about the article on a thread? So far, I see one part of one sentence in this thread where you actually stated anything about the article.
#56. To: mininggold (#55)
You are the one that said it was propaganda. Most here already knew.
#57. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#46)
But see, you would never know that was my view, unless we actually discuss the article, like adults.
#58. To: lucysmom, Brian S (#46)
Or you might have just said that to begin with - you know, take some responsibility (like an adult) for expressing your view.
#59. To: We The People (#58)
There are 6 articles, posted just today by Brian S.
#60. To: mininggold (#59)
He's not obsessing about posters not commenting about them.
#61. To: We The People (#60)
LOL! You have to twist and spin my position to have anything even resembling a point. Yukon does that a lot.
#62. To: mininggold (#61)
So, just show me his posts where he indicates his displeasure about posters not commenting.
#63. To: A K A Stone, We The People, libTURD scum and filth, ALL SANE AMERICANS (#31)
I noticed Sarah Palin has started using the phrase "tea party patriots". We should follow her lead and use the same language.
#64. To: whinyold, lucysretardedmommy, the rest of you gibbering libTURDS, actual SANE AMERICANS (#42)
#65. To: We The People (#62)
Posters not commenting' has nothing to do with anything that I've said in this thread.
#66. To: We The People (#49)
#67. To: Mad Dog (#66)
How deep do you reckon the cat shit is in her "house"?
#68. To: CZ82 (#67)
#69. To: mininggold (#65)
It is directly relevent to the 'double standard' you posted.
#70. To: CZ82 (#67)
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LOL.....
#71. To: We The People (#58)
He has yet to give his opinion on any of them.
#72. To: whinyold, CZ82 (#70)
You Tea Bagger 'conservatives' seem always so totally obsessed with feces.
#73. To: We The People (#69)
My point about Brian S and his articles in which he does not comment was in direct response to lucysmom saying that I should have stated my opinion first, apparently before anyone else commented.
#74. To: lucysmom (#71)
I'm wondering why this standard seems to be only for me.
#75. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#73)
(Edited)
man up and say so, don't whine like a little boy
#76. To: We The People, lucysretardedmom (#73)
#77. To: Mad Dog, lucysmom (#76)
(Edited)
trapped in a ward...while she had power over them?
#78. To: We The People (#75)
Should I now say that parts of your anatomy are smelly or something? Is that the level of communication that you seek and are comfortable with?
#79. To: lucysmom (#78)
Why, did I say you smell?
#80. To: We The People (#79)
No, you didn't.
#81. To: mininggold (#70)
LOL..... Don't you mean cardboard box!!!
#82. To: lucysmom (#80)
Why are you invoking Yukon?
#83. To: lucysmom (#80)
(Edited)
Good, we agree on something.
#84. To: We The People (#82)
I guess we'll have to let others decide
#85. To: We The People, whinyold, lucysgibberinglibTURDmommy (#77)
I find it hard to believe that anyone with the reasoning and communication skills of this woman has ever had a position of power over anyone else, except maybe Lucy.
#86. To: mininggold (#35)
You follow her lead, the rest of us will laugh.
#87. To: mininggold (#47)
You need to stop obsessing over this poorly written opinion piece that offers up nothing for debate.
#88. To: A K A Stone (#86)
Liberals always hated patriotism. Thanks for confirming.
#89. To: mininggold (#88)
Liberals always hated patriotism. Thanks for confirming.
#90. To: We The People (#0)
(Edited)
The glorious truth: Tea Party Movement outnumbers Obama Libs!
This small group of terrorists [Tea Party members] have made it impossible to spend any money. -- Mike Doyle (D-PA)
#91. To: A K A Stone (#89)
(Edited)
Your ad homonym is what is showing.
#92. To: A K A Stone (#86)
Liberals always hated patriotism. Thanks for confirming.
#93. To: We The People (#0)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#94. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#92)
They hate everything but handouts, fags and power..... they are especially good at hating themselves!!!
#95. To: A K A Stone (#86)
You follow her lead, the rest of us will laugh.
#96. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#95)
I prefer the term "statist".
#97. To: Murron (#94)
They're pretty good at fixing things that aren't broken too.... &;-)
#98. To: Murron (#94)
They're pretty good at fixing things that aren't broken too.... &;-)
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