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Title: The glorious truth: Tea Party Movement outnumbers Obama Libs!
Source: Canada Free Press
URL Source: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/39186
Published: Aug 6, 2011
Author: Judi McLeod
Post Date: 2011-08-06 10:42:02 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 56688
Comments: 98

The name for Tea Party members hated and feared most by Barack Obama and his cohorts is `patriot’.

That’s why they hurl the names racist, bigot, bitter clinger and domestic terrorist at the Tea Party, and that’s why the Obama running dog mainstream media so desperately works to keep up the big smear.

Even in the midst of all the Obama Regime destruction, America has something to celebrate: Tea Party Patriots are keeping Obama from completing his threatened Fundamental Transformation of America.

No one elected to public office from either side has ever stepped forward to ask Obama who is he to fundamentally transform America. No one.

But from its inception, the Tea Party Movement has never stopped asking.

Freedom lovers everywhere owe the Tea Party admiration and gratitude.

It has long defied belief how far the Obama Regime would go to demonize the Grandmas and Grandpas in the Tea Party Movement.

Thanks to the Gallup Poll, we now know why.

“The percentage of Americans who expressly state that they are supporters of the Tea Party movement is currently about as large at 22 percent of the population as the 21 percent who say they are liberals, according to recent but separate Gallup polls.” (CNSNews.com, Aug. 5, 2011).

Hallelujah!

No wonder why Obama hightails it out of sight most Friday nights, including this one just before the news hit that for the first time in its noble 235-year long history, the USA had been demoted by the reputable Standard & Poor’s.

Laughable that after nearly three years of trying to edge America over the abyss that Obama and his ridiculous ring of czars and movie stars are vastly outnumbered by the “enemy”.

Not only are the Lib-Left seriously outnumbered by the Tea Party, at 41 percent of the population, self-described conservatives outnumber both Tea Party movement supporters and liberals by nearly 2-to-1.

For Obama, there’s no Hope and Change to be seen anywhere in the facts presented by Gallup.

Most laughably, it wasn’t the no-Social-Security-check scare tactics trotted out in the Debt Ceiling fiasco that drove most people into the arms of the Tea Party Movement: “In fact, the July 27 and August 2 polls showed a considerably smaller percentage of Americans saying they were Tea Party supporters than previous Gallup polls conducted over three-and-four-day periods.

“For example, a Gallup survey conducted April 20-23 of this year, found that 30 percent of Americans described themselves as Tea Party supporters. Similarly, a Gallup poll conducted Jan. 14-16 this year also found that 30% of Americans described themselves as Tea Party supporters.

“In previous Gallup polling, Tea Party support hit a low of 26 percent in a series of polls conducted in October 2010—immediately before the midterm congressional elections—and peaked at 36 percent on Nov. 4-7, 2010—immediately after the midterm congressional elections.”

Interestingly, in polling conducted through the first half of 2011, and published Aug. 1, Gallup discovered that 21 percent of Americans described themselves as liberals. That is the same percentage that described themselves as liberals in Gallup surveys in 2010 and 2009.

Even with all the unelected czars at his command; even with the mainstream media in his tank; even with all the money and all the propaganda in his bag of tricks, the Liberals are not growing under the Marxist in Chief, but remain at a breathtaking standstill.

For all of his arrogance, for all of his omnipotence, Obama’s big plans for the Transformation of America have hit the brick wall of something admired worldwide: the undying passion of American patriotism.

Little David’s everywhere are shouting to Goliath: “Bring it on, Baby!”

No wonder Obama, boss ladies Michelle and Valerie Jarrett are holed up at Camp David after dancing barefoot with tinseltown celebrities in the White House Rose Garden this weekend!

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#1. To: We The People (#0)

The glorious truth: Tea Party Movement outnumbers Obama Libs!

Is Canada Free Press still working the Obama birth certificate hoax?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   10:49:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#1) (Edited)

Strawman:

The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument:

1. Person A has position X.

2. Person B disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y (or a completely different issue). Thus, Y is a resulting distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways.

3. Person B attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position (or an entirely different issue completely) fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   11:29:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: We The People (#5)

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position (or an entirely different issue completely) fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.

You do a pretty good job of describing the article you posted.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   11:58:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#8) (Edited)

You do a pretty good job of describing the article you posted.

If you disagree with the article, why don't you tell me why?

Make an argument against the points in the article, instead of using strawmen, attacking the messenger ad hominems, or directing your comments towards the me personally.

Have you been an internet forum denizen for so long that you've forgotten how to have a polite and adult discussion?

Here's an example of how to start out...

"I disagree with this article because..."

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   12:07:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: We The People (#9) (Edited)

Make an argument against the points in the article, instead of using strawmen, attacking the messenger ad hominems, or directing your comments towards the me personally.

Have you been an internet forum denizen for so long that you've forgotten how to have a polite and adult discussion?

Here's an example of how to start out...

"I disagree with this article because..."

Let me get this straight, you seek polite, adult discussion by posting articles that contain stuff like:

Even with all the unelected czars at his command; even with the mainstream media in his tank; even with all the money and all the propaganda in his bag of tricks, the Liberals are not growing under the Marxist in Chief, but remain at a breathtaking standstill.

Either you're pulling my leg, are in deep denial, or are just plain dishonest and hope your fellow travelers won't notice. (That's an "ad hominem", son)

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   12:17:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#12)

Let me get this straight, you seek polite, adult discussion by posting articles that contain stuff like:

Even with all the unelected czars at his command; even with the mainstream media in his tank; even with all the money and all the propaganda in his bag of tricks, the Liberals are not growing under the Marxist in Chief, but remain at a breathtaking standstill.

Either you're pulling my leg, are in deep denial, or are just plain dishonest and hope your fellow travelers won't notice. (That's an "ad hominem", son)

That's why making a distinction between the author of the article and the poster of the article is so important. Tell me why you disagree with the article. I challenge you to JUST ONCE, direct your comments toward the article and what's stated in the article, and not toward me personally.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   12:21:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: We The People (#13)

That's why making a distinction between the author of the article and the poster of the article is so important.

I began by asking you a question about the site you posting the article from. You have chosen to make it a personal issue.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   12:29:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#14) (Edited)

I began by asking you a question about the site you posting the article from. You have chosen to make it a personal issue.

I couldn't find any actual proof of the author's assertions other than the ONE poll, but this tells you everything you need to know.

"Copyright © Canada Free Press

Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the print media. A former Toronto Sun columnist, she also worked for the Kingston Whig Standard. Her work has appeared on Rush Limbaugh, Newsmax.com, Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and Glenn Beck."

I wonder why she doesn't write for WND?

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-06   12:52:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mininggold (#18)

I couldn't find any actual proof of the author's assertions other than the ONE poll, but this tells you everything you need to know.

"Copyright © Canada Free Press

Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the print media. A former Toronto Sun columnist, she also worked for the Kingston Whig Standard. Her work has appeared on Rush Limbaugh, Newsmax.com, Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and Glenn Beck."

Attacking the messenger?

We The People  posted on  2011-08-06   13:03:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: We The People (#23)

Attacking the messenger?

Her history is published with the article and I brought it up for poster perusal. YOU are the one calling it an attack.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-06   13:20:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mininggold (#27)

Her history is published with the article and I brought it up for poster perusal. YOU are the one calling it an attack.

LOL!

That would be easy to believe had you brought ANYTHING from the article also up for poster perusal. But you don't want to talk about any statements made in the article, or any political beliefs, stances or views, or even the Gallup polls stated in the article, you just want more endless, childish, forum oneupmanship. You're a yukon. You just want someone to argue with.

Well, have at it, but if you demand to engage in it, I'm afraid you'll have to do it without me.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   11:11:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: We The People, Thunderbird (#32) (Edited)

That would be easy to believe had you brought ANYTHING from the article also up for poster perusal. But you don't want to talk about any statements made in the article, or any political beliefs, stances or views, or even the Gallup polls stated in the article, you just want more endless, childish, forum oneupmanship. You're a yukon. You just want someone to argue with.

Well, have at it, but if you demand to engage in it, I'm afraid you'll have to do it without me.

Evidently Thunderbird has you pegged to a T. Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll, which is the author's perogative. But it means she doesn't care if she's wrong or not as long as she can make her point.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:18:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mininggold, Thunderbird (#33)

Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll,

I'm going to reply to this part of one sentence, because it's the only part of your reply that actually deals with the article above and not myself personally or your opinion of the author.

Yes, I can see that it's an opinion piece and based on one poll. That's why I posted it in 'Opinions/Editorials'.

For the record, I believe that polls are BS. They are designed to shape opinion, rather than report it. So I don't believe this poll anymore than I'll believe the next that's posted.

However, I believe the message of this poll, that more Americans consider themselves conservative/TEA Party types than those that are far left, is essentially true.

The fickle nature of human beings, the loaded questions designed to elicit the response desired and the skewed interpretation of polls make them no more than propaganda.

But see, you would never know that was my view, unless we actually discuss the article, like adults.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   11:42:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: We The People (#43)

But see, you would never know that was my view, unless we actually discuss the article, like adults.

Or you might have just said that to begin with - you know, take some responsibility (like an adult) for expressing your view.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-07   11:55:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: lucysmom, Brian S (#46)

Or you might have just said that to begin with - you know, take some responsibility (like an adult) for expressing your view.

There are 6 articles, posted just today by Brian S.

He has yet to give his opinion on any of them.

I'm wondering why this standard seems to be only for me.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   14:43:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: We The People (#58)

There are 6 articles, posted just today by Brian S.

He has yet to give his opinion on any of them.

I'm wondering why this standard seems to be only for me.

He's not obsessing about posters not commenting about them.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   14:46:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mininggold (#59)

He's not obsessing about posters not commenting about them.

LOL! You have to twist and spin my position to have anything even resembling a point. Yukon does that a lot.

I wouldn't care if no one commented on an article that I posted.

I'd rather you didn't comment, if your comments have nothing to do with the article.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   14:52:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: We The People (#60)

LOL! You have to twist and spin my position to have anything even resembling a point. Yukon does that a lot.

I wouldn't care if no one commented on an article that I posted.

I'd rather you didn't comment, if your comments have nothing to do with the article.

So, just show me his posts where he indicates his displeasure about posters not commenting.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   14:55:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mininggold (#61)

So, just show me his posts where he indicates his displeasure about posters not commenting.

'Posters not commenting' has nothing to do with anything that I've said in this thread.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   15:01:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: We The People (#62)

Posters not commenting' has nothing to do with anything that I've said in this thread.

It is directly relevent to the 'double standard' you posted.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   15:21:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: mininggold (#65)

It is directly relevent to the 'double standard' you posted.

'Posters not commenting' is not and was not any point that I have been trying to make in this thread.

You can try to assign that position to me, and it seems that you are trying, but that is not now and never has been any part of my point in this thread and I've not said anything like that.

I'll say again, I wouldn't care if no one commented.

I do care that all comments have been directed at either myself, the author of the article or the site which published the article.

My point about Brian S and his articles in which he does not comment was in direct response to lucysmom saying that I should have stated my opinion first, apparently before anyone else commented.

I suggest you read this slowly and completely before commenting any further.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   15:30:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: We The People (#69)

My point about Brian S and his articles in which he does not comment was in direct response to lucysmom saying that I should have stated my opinion first, apparently before anyone else commented.

Meaning that if there is a particular point, or direction you wish the discussion to take, man up and say so, don't whine like a little boy when he hasn't gotten his unexpressed wishes met.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-07   16:29:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#73) (Edited)

man up and say so, don't whine like a little boy

LOLOL!!!

Awwwwww!

That's twice you 'ladies' have attacked my 'manhood' in this thread! Once for each of you! The first was for using the word 'petulant'.

Should I now say that parts of your anatomy are smelly or something? Is that the level of communication that you seek and are comfortable with?

I have not whined at all in this thread or anywhere else. Pointing out your leftist tactics is not whining, but great use of the yukon maneuver!

Do I need to post more evidence that what I say is true? I think not.

LOL!!

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   16:37:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#78. To: We The People (#75)

Should I now say that parts of your anatomy are smelly or something? Is that the level of communication that you seek and are comfortable with?

Why, did I say you smell?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-07 16:45:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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