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Title: The glorious truth: Tea Party Movement outnumbers Obama Libs!
Source: Canada Free Press
URL Source: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/39186
Published: Aug 6, 2011
Author: Judi McLeod
Post Date: 2011-08-06 10:42:02 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 56580
Comments: 98

The name for Tea Party members hated and feared most by Barack Obama and his cohorts is `patriot’.

That’s why they hurl the names racist, bigot, bitter clinger and domestic terrorist at the Tea Party, and that’s why the Obama running dog mainstream media so desperately works to keep up the big smear.

Even in the midst of all the Obama Regime destruction, America has something to celebrate: Tea Party Patriots are keeping Obama from completing his threatened Fundamental Transformation of America.

No one elected to public office from either side has ever stepped forward to ask Obama who is he to fundamentally transform America. No one.

But from its inception, the Tea Party Movement has never stopped asking.

Freedom lovers everywhere owe the Tea Party admiration and gratitude.

It has long defied belief how far the Obama Regime would go to demonize the Grandmas and Grandpas in the Tea Party Movement.

Thanks to the Gallup Poll, we now know why.

“The percentage of Americans who expressly state that they are supporters of the Tea Party movement is currently about as large at 22 percent of the population as the 21 percent who say they are liberals, according to recent but separate Gallup polls.” (CNSNews.com, Aug. 5, 2011).

Hallelujah!

No wonder why Obama hightails it out of sight most Friday nights, including this one just before the news hit that for the first time in its noble 235-year long history, the USA had been demoted by the reputable Standard & Poor’s.

Laughable that after nearly three years of trying to edge America over the abyss that Obama and his ridiculous ring of czars and movie stars are vastly outnumbered by the “enemy”.

Not only are the Lib-Left seriously outnumbered by the Tea Party, at 41 percent of the population, self-described conservatives outnumber both Tea Party movement supporters and liberals by nearly 2-to-1.

For Obama, there’s no Hope and Change to be seen anywhere in the facts presented by Gallup.

Most laughably, it wasn’t the no-Social-Security-check scare tactics trotted out in the Debt Ceiling fiasco that drove most people into the arms of the Tea Party Movement: “In fact, the July 27 and August 2 polls showed a considerably smaller percentage of Americans saying they were Tea Party supporters than previous Gallup polls conducted over three-and-four-day periods.

“For example, a Gallup survey conducted April 20-23 of this year, found that 30 percent of Americans described themselves as Tea Party supporters. Similarly, a Gallup poll conducted Jan. 14-16 this year also found that 30% of Americans described themselves as Tea Party supporters.

“In previous Gallup polling, Tea Party support hit a low of 26 percent in a series of polls conducted in October 2010—immediately before the midterm congressional elections—and peaked at 36 percent on Nov. 4-7, 2010—immediately after the midterm congressional elections.”

Interestingly, in polling conducted through the first half of 2011, and published Aug. 1, Gallup discovered that 21 percent of Americans described themselves as liberals. That is the same percentage that described themselves as liberals in Gallup surveys in 2010 and 2009.

Even with all the unelected czars at his command; even with the mainstream media in his tank; even with all the money and all the propaganda in his bag of tricks, the Liberals are not growing under the Marxist in Chief, but remain at a breathtaking standstill.

For all of his arrogance, for all of his omnipotence, Obama’s big plans for the Transformation of America have hit the brick wall of something admired worldwide: the undying passion of American patriotism.

Little David’s everywhere are shouting to Goliath: “Bring it on, Baby!”

No wonder Obama, boss ladies Michelle and Valerie Jarrett are holed up at Camp David after dancing barefoot with tinseltown celebrities in the White House Rose Garden this weekend!

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#28. To: We The People (#25)

To: Liberator

Please step forward and explain what Obama's Plan was/is to "fundamentally transform America." It appears that no one wants to address the article with any kind of an actual rebuttal.

They want to either attack the messenger (the author) or the poster.

Has this site really gone that far backwards? Are biting one liners the standard here? Is there anyone here who actually wants to discuss the issues?

It's an opinion piece based on one poll and hence can't be rebutted.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-06   13:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#8)

(WTP) This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position (or an entirely different issue completely) fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.

(LM) You do a pretty good job of describing the article you posted.

Lol..you're right.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-06   13:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator, We The People, war, mininggold, lucysmom, Skop Intro, Brian S, Thunderbird, Fred Mertz (#19)

Freedom lovers everywhere owe the Tea Party admiration and gratitude.

HEAR HEAR!!

LOL!

See my tagline below. Your sabotaging of America by adhering to a failed mythology on govt/private sector relations is entertaining.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-06   14:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: We The People (#0)

The name for Tea Party members hated and feared most by Barack Obama and his cohorts is `patriot’.

I noticed Sarah Palin has started using the phrase "tea party patriots". We should follow her lead and use the same language.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-08-06   14:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mininggold (#27)

Her history is published with the article and I brought it up for poster perusal. YOU are the one calling it an attack.

LOL!

That would be easy to believe had you brought ANYTHING from the article also up for poster perusal. But you don't want to talk about any statements made in the article, or any political beliefs, stances or views, or even the Gallup polls stated in the article, you just want more endless, childish, forum oneupmanship. You're a yukon. You just want someone to argue with.

Well, have at it, but if you demand to engage in it, I'm afraid you'll have to do it without me.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   11:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: We The People, Thunderbird (#32) (Edited)

That would be easy to believe had you brought ANYTHING from the article also up for poster perusal. But you don't want to talk about any statements made in the article, or any political beliefs, stances or views, or even the Gallup polls stated in the article, you just want more endless, childish, forum oneupmanship. You're a yukon. You just want someone to argue with.

Well, have at it, but if you demand to engage in it, I'm afraid you'll have to do it without me.

Evidently Thunderbird has you pegged to a T. Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll, which is the author's perogative. But it means she doesn't care if she's wrong or not as long as she can make her point.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: We The People (#25) (Edited)

It appears that no one wants to address the article with any kind of an actual rebuttal.

They want to either attack the messenger (the author) or the poster.

Of course not. This forum is infested with statist hard-core leftists, liberals, and moonbats.

Has this site really gone that far backwards?

At times, yes.

Are biting one liners the standard here?

As long as there exists a cabal of Leftist yukons, that is indeed the case.

Is there anyone here who actually wants to discuss the issues?

Don't rely on the resident low-rent Leftists; They're just here just to shill for and spout the usual Leftist propaganda. They are the yukons of the Left.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#31)

I noticed Sarah Palin has started using the phrase "tea party patriots". We should follow her lead and use the same language.

You follow her lead, the rest of us will laugh.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Godwinson, We The People (#30)

See my tagline below.

Sorry, no can do.

The voluminous level of Leftist, pro-0bama propaganda and spam you already churn out and is quite enough, thank you.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#35)

The rest of us will laugh.

Go ahead - give us your best maniacal 'Dark Side of the Moon' laugh.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mininggold, We The People, Thunderbird (#33)

Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll, which is the author's perogative.

LF is a forum, remember?? Threads are up for discussion, criticism, praise, etc.

DUH.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Liberator (#37)

Go ahead - give us your best maniacal 'Dark Side of the Moon' laugh.

Ignore post. Too silly.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator (#38)

LF is a forum, remember?? Threads are up for discussion, criticism, praise, etc.

DUH.

Ignore post. Redundant

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Liberator (#34)

Don't rely on the resident low-rent Leftists; They're just here just to shill for and spout the usual Leftist propaganda. They are the yukons of the Left.

The posted article IS propaganda, what sort of response would a reasonable person expect?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-07   11:29:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: lucysmom, (#41)

The posted article IS propaganda, what sort of response would a reasonable person expect?

By giving my opinion Libby took the Goldi tact of implying I was denying others their ability to discuss or post their opinions. The LP school of forum discussion is alive and well here.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:35:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mininggold, Thunderbird (#33)

Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll,

I'm going to reply to this part of one sentence, because it's the only part of your reply that actually deals with the article above and not myself personally or your opinion of the author.

Yes, I can see that it's an opinion piece and based on one poll. That's why I posted it in 'Opinions/Editorials'.

For the record, I believe that polls are BS. They are designed to shape opinion, rather than report it. So I don't believe this poll anymore than I'll believe the next that's posted.

However, I believe the message of this poll, that more Americans consider themselves conservative/TEA Party types than those that are far left, is essentially true.

The fickle nature of human beings, the loaded questions designed to elicit the response desired and the skewed interpretation of polls make them no more than propaganda.

But see, you would never know that was my view, unless we actually discuss the article, like adults.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   11:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom (#41)

The posted article IS propaganda,

All political 'news' is propaganda today. This article, though definitely more bombastic than most, is otherwise no different. The Murdoch doctrine of 'news with views' has completely taken over.

Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position so as to benefit oneself.

As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda is often biased, with facts selectively presented (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political, or other type of agenda. Propaganda can be used as a form of political warfare.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   11:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: We The People (#44)

All political 'news' is propaganda today. This article, though definitely more bombastic than most, is otherwise no different. The Murdoch doctrine of 'news with views' has completely taken over.

So you admit it's propaganda.

I disagree with your overly broad attempt to justify it though, and BTW the article is hardly 'bombastic'.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:53:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: We The People (#43)

But see, you would never know that was my view, unless we actually discuss the article, like adults.

Or you might have just said that to begin with - you know, take some responsibility (like an adult) for expressing your view.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-07   11:55:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: We The People (#43)

Post Comment Please cut and paste the portion of the text to which you are replying, if any, into the "Quote" box using your computer's editing features.

On 2011-08-07 11:42:35, We The People wrote:

To: mininggold, Thunderbird

Can't you see it's an opinion piece and based on one poll, I'm going to reply to this part of one sentence, because it's the only part of your reply that actually deals with the article above and not myself personally or your opinion of the author.

Yes, I can see that it's an opinion piece and based on one poll. That's why I posted it in 'Opinions/Editorials'.

For the record, I believe that polls are BS. They are designed to shape opinion, rather than report it. So I don't believe this poll anymore than I'll believe the next that's posted.

However, I believe the message of this poll, that more Americans consider themselves conservative/TEA Party types than those that are far left, is essentially true.

The fickle nature of human beings, the loaded questions designed to elicit the response desired and the skewed interpretation of polls make them no more than propaganda.

But see, you would never know that was my view, unless we actually discuss the article, like adults.

You need to stop obsessing over this poorly written opinion piece that offers up nothing for debate.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mininggold (#45)

So you admit it's propaganda.

Uh....yea.

I disagree with your overly broad attempt to justify it though, and BTW the article is hardly 'bombastic'.

Why am I not shocked?

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   11:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: We The People (#48)

I disagree with your overly broad attempt to justify it though, and BTW the article is hardly 'bombastic'.

Why am I not shocked?

I'm sure not shocked at your attempts to justify your actions.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: mininggold (#47)

You need to stop obsessing over this poorly written opinion piece that offers up nothing for debate.

I'm not obsessing over anything. I'm simply trying to get some adult discussion of articles started.

It appears I may have to look to someone else though.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   12:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: mininggold (#49)

I'm sure not shocked at your attempts to justify your actions.

I don't care. I don't care about your feelings or your opinion of me or if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed since you were born.

Get back to me if you ever want to discuss an article.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   12:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: We The People (#51) (Edited)

I don't care. I don't care about your feelings or your opinion of me or if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed since you were born.

Get back to me if you ever want to discuss an article.

It's already been discussed, but then YOU made this thread all about YOU.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   12:05:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: lucysmom (#41)

The posted article IS propaganda, what sort of response would a reasonable person expect?

Discussion of said propaganda and a critique?

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   12:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: mininggold (#52)

It's already been discussed, but then YOU made this thread all about YOU.

LOL!!!!!

Can you even make a post about the article on a thread? So far, I see one part of one sentence in this thread where you actually stated anything about the article.

Is all you ever do is snipe at your imaginary adversaries?

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   12:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: We The People (#54)

Can you even make a post about the article on a thread? So far, I see one part of one sentence in this thread where you actually stated anything about the article.

Is all you ever do is snipe at your imaginary adversaries?

You are the one that said it was propaganda. Most here already knew.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   12:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: mininggold (#55)

You are the one that said it was propaganda. Most here already knew.

LOL!

Move on with your life.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I'm still not sure how I did, but I'm sorry. I just posted another couple articles, perhaps you can continue your sniping there.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   12:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#46)

But see, you would never know that was my view, unless we actually discuss the article, like adults.

Or you might have just said that to begin with - you know, take some responsibility (like an adult) for expressing your view.

I'm supposed to immediately give my opinion of any article that I post so that I don't get mugged? Why, without discussing the article posted, would ANYONE assume they know what position I might take?

Normally, my view always comes out in an article that I post, through the discussion of the article. When others, (and by others I mean you) immediately start with strawmen, Alinsky like attacking the messenger ad hominems and personal attacks against me, I kind of get sidetracked.

OK, I'm also not supposed to use wiki as a source.

Are there any other rules, imposed by non owners of this forum, that I should be aware of?

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   14:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: lucysmom, Brian S (#46)

Or you might have just said that to begin with - you know, take some responsibility (like an adult) for expressing your view.

There are 6 articles, posted just today by Brian S.

He has yet to give his opinion on any of them.

I'm wondering why this standard seems to be only for me.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   14:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: We The People (#58)

There are 6 articles, posted just today by Brian S.

He has yet to give his opinion on any of them.

I'm wondering why this standard seems to be only for me.

He's not obsessing about posters not commenting about them.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   14:46:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mininggold (#59)

He's not obsessing about posters not commenting about them.

LOL! You have to twist and spin my position to have anything even resembling a point. Yukon does that a lot.

I wouldn't care if no one commented on an article that I posted.

I'd rather you didn't comment, if your comments have nothing to do with the article.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   14:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: We The People (#60)

LOL! You have to twist and spin my position to have anything even resembling a point. Yukon does that a lot.

I wouldn't care if no one commented on an article that I posted.

I'd rather you didn't comment, if your comments have nothing to do with the article.

So, just show me his posts where he indicates his displeasure about posters not commenting.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   14:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mininggold (#61)

So, just show me his posts where he indicates his displeasure about posters not commenting.

'Posters not commenting' has nothing to do with anything that I've said in this thread.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

We The People  posted on  2011-08-07   15:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone, We The People, libTURD scum and filth, ALL SANE AMERICANS (#31)

I noticed Sarah Palin has started using the phrase "tea party patriots". We should follow her lead and use the same language.

I concur 100%.

For TOO long we have allowed the "Hate America FIRST!" libTURD machine to define the terms of the argument.

WE must not allow them to continue IF we are to prevail.

"In the beginning there was the word..." is not just a biblical passage it's a statement about setting the parameters of any discussion by controlling the vocabulary of the discussion.

So ...

The phrase tea partee PATRIOTS works on all levels.

It's actually the OBJECTIVE TRUTH.

What the American people need to do here is to shout down these libTURD scum whenever they call our fathers and mothers and grand mothers and grand father's "tea baggers".

In fact IF anyone ever said that to me face to face about the tea partee they'd be looking UP at the sky next.

But you filthy libTURD cunts are cowards and LIARS so you'd never dare anything face to face unless you thought you out numbered us.

Because at the very base of your miserable selves you are all craven COWARDS and wannabe bullies.

No matter, because we the AMERICAN PEOPLE, WE tea partee PATRIOTS, are going to take OUR country back and STOP this feral gooberment.

Believe it.

libTURD FILTH.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-07   15:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: whinyold, lucysretardedmommy, the rest of you gibbering libTURDS, actual SANE AMERICANS (#42)

.

I swear to GOD, when you two gibbering libTURD MORONS talk to each other I can feel the net average intelligence of the world sag to new lows!

STOP IT!

(For the children.)

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-07   15:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: We The People (#62)

Posters not commenting' has nothing to do with anything that I've said in this thread.

It is directly relevent to the 'double standard' you posted.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   15:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: We The People (#49)

.

How many cats do you figure 'ol whinyold has trapped in her old lady cave?

50? 100?

How deep do you reckon the cat shit is in her "house"?

Did you know that ammonia is explosive in the correct ratio with atmosphere?

Did you know that ammonia is also a corrosive?

I guess an ammonia rich environment could explain SOME of the nonsense that these gibbering libTURD whores spew.

But, really it's avery simple thing. We see it demonstrated here all day every day.

"libTURDISM is a mental DISEASE."

AND this particular gibbering libTURD skank has entered the terminal phase.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-07   15:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Mad Dog (#66)

How deep do you reckon the cat shit is in her "house"?

LOL.....

Don't you mean cardboard box!!!

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-07   15:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: CZ82 (#67)

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LOL!

Talk about abuse of animals!

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-07   15:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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