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Title: Disapproval Rate for Congress at Record 82% After Debt Talks
Source: New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/05/us/politics/05poll.html
Published: Aug 4, 2011
Author: MICHAEL COOPER and MEGAN THEE-BRENAN
Post Date: 2011-08-05 10:19:13 by lucysmom
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The debate over raising the debt ceiling, which brought the nation to the brink of default, has sent disapproval of Congress to its highest level on record and left most Americans saying that creating jobs should now take priority over cutting spending, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.

A record 82 percent of Americans now disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job — the most since The Times first began asking the question in 1977, and even more than after another political stalemate led to a shutdown of the federal government in 1995.

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The Republicans compromised too little, a majority of those polled said. All told, 72 percent disapproved of the way Republicans in Congress handled the negotiations, while 66 percent disapproved of the way Democrats in Congress handled negotiations.

The public was more evenly divided about how Mr. Obama handled the debt ceiling negotiations: 47 percent disapproved and 46 percent approved.

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#13. To: mcgowanjm (#9)

We'll have Civil Class War first...

O wait...we are...

yep

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-05   12:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#11)

you and your ilk...

Me and my ilk, are the hosts that you and YOUR ilk (the parasite class) depend on, for survival.

Never forget that.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-05   12:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Capitalist Eric (#14)

Me and my ilk, are the hosts that you and YOUR ilk (the parasite class) depend on, for survival.

Never forget that.

Aye, aye, mein führer.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-05   12:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#6)

Chuckles...you've correctly predicted what's coming their way 1,098,843,562,909 of the last 0 times...

I've predicted what'S coming their way MANY times... and they're getting it RIGHT NOW.

You leftists think that you're representative of the common people... Because YOU are quite common... And in this way, you're correct. The meaning of "common," is the key... Common, as in

a : falling below ordinary standards : second-rate or
b : lacking refinement : coarse

H.L. Mencken was referring to you, when he said "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

INDEED.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-05   12:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Capitalist Eric, lucysmom, Badeye, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, Mininggold (#3) (Edited)

That's why we have a representative republic, with the established boundaries set by the Constitution.

Since 90% of the population do not control any resources in America this nation is an oligarchy rather than a republic.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-08-05   12:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)

I've predicted what'S coming their way MANY times... and they're getting it RIGHT NOW.

Riiight, Eric. You're omnipotent...thanks to Viagara...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-05   12:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)

H.L. Mencken was referring to you, when he said "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

I don't live in a democracy...I live in a republic.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-05   12:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war, Crapitalist Eric (#19)

I don't live in a democracy...I live in a republic.

Poor Eric, even his attempts at illustrative homilies fall flat.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-05   12:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Godwinson (#17)

Since 90% of the population do not control any resources in America this nation is an oligarchy rather than a republic.

I think it's actually a much lower percentage than 90%.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-05   12:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#20)

war: I don't live in a democracy...I live in a republic.

Don't forget that, asshole.

LucysIDIOTmom Ming: Poor Eric, even his attempts at illustrative homilies fall flat.

Your demonstrations of willful ignorance provide me with endless entertainment.

Thanks for playing, loony.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-05   13:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)

Your demonstrations of willful ignorance provide me with endless entertainment.

You have far too much anger in your for that to be true..

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-08-05   14:08:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)

You leftists think that you're representative of the common people... Because YOU are quite common... And in this way, you're correct. The meaning of "common," is the key... Common, as in

a : falling below ordinary standards : second-rate or b : lacking refinement : coarse

Common also means 4 a: widespread, general b: characterized by a lack of privilege or special status c: just satisfying accustomed criteria : elementary

You do seem to lack common decency.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-05   15:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)

Your demonstrations of willful ignorance provide me with endless entertainment.

Thanks for playing, loony.

Evidently you also are unable to express the words that backs up your expressed behavior. I hope your boss is paying attention.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-05   15:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold (#10)

Mine's Mike Thompson and in my area if you aren't grape growers you don't exist.

This has nothing to do with this thread, but as I drive around California it worries me seeing how much agricultural land has been given over to grape growers. If we get any kind of grape parasite or fungus here this entire industry is going to be in the tank.

Maybe I'm wrong since it hasn't happened yet, but when I see mile upon mile of grape vines with no other crop acting as a buffer zone it bothers me.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-08-05   15:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lucysmom (#24)

You do seem to lack common decency.

You complain, not because I fail to show "decency," but because I fail to show you the respect you seem to think you automatically deserve.

I treat you with the contempt and scorn that you really deserve, and I don't hide it.

You're a contemptible, odious little parasite. You seem to think that because the government has stolen your retirement money, you can steal my money.

Oh, sure... you don't want to be a "burden" to your family... but you have absolutely NO qualms about being a burden to MY family, DO you?

If it means that my kids have to starve, so you can sit on your fat ass, eating twinkies, that's perfectly alright with you.

You are the ultimate parasite, and I treat you in the exact manner you TRULY deserve.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-05   18:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#23)

You have far too much anger in your for that to be true..

That's called "projection."

I have a steadfast resolve, to NOT be a slave to your socialist wet-dreams. There are a shitload of people out there, just like me, who will be quite happy to lay down your life, to make that fact clear.

You and your ilk are on very, very thin ice.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-05   18:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#18)

A Contra indicator...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-05   19:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold, war, Crapitalist Eric, lucysmom, All (#20)

This is insane. And yet exactly what the Top 50 000 believe:

"#14. To: lucysmom (#11)

you and your ilk...

Me and my ilk, are the hosts that you and YOUR ilk (the parasite class) depend on, for survival.

Never forget that.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-05   19:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mcgowanjm (#30)

I wish you wouldn't do this. I have Mad Eric bozoed for a reason, then you go and re-post his rants.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-08-05   19:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Capitalist Eric (#3)

That's why we have a representative republic, with the established boundaries set by the Constitution.

And then the Selection of 2000, still unsolved...

9/11, still unsolved...COG State of Emergency... renewed every year....superceding the Constitution...

Anthrax, still unsolved...

Invasion the Afghans/Iraq/ 4 other wars....not called wars....

Katrina...Shock Doctrine...never let a crisis go to waste...

Lehman/AIG Insurance on Debt designed never to pay off...

Depression 07....

FedRes explodes Balance Sheet by $16.1 Trillion...at least....

$7.75 Trillion going to Merrill, BofA, Citi, Morgan Stanley...

3 years of extend/pretend....

And now the POTUS will oversea a USA Debt Downgrade this PM, after setting up the SS/Medicare for gutting...

So that the World's Largest Military can have the World's Largest Budget...

Making the European Financial Stability Facility almost 6 times bigger (€440 billion to €2.5 trillion) than it isn't even yet, but is at least supposed to become, is a dead on arrival idea. Germany won't accept that, Holland won't, Finland won't. "

Sunday PM...Think August 1914...1931...1937...1941....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-05   19:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: All (#32)

Why is this a secret?

GOP Tries To Shift Blame For S&P Downgrade Of US Creditworthiness

TPMDC - 1 hour ago An ABC News report suggests US officials are prepping for the credit rating agency S&P to downgrade the country's AAA bond rating to either AA or AA+. ... 160 related articles Govt officials: US expecting S&P downgrade -- based on "serious ...46; - ABC News (blog) US Braces for Possible S&P Downgrade: Sources46; - CNBC.com

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-05   19:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#33)

CNN: S&P served notice it planned to downgrade U.S. AAA rating but is reconsidering, a senior administration official says.

You didn't think that anything worse could come out of DC this week...

Now Didja?

Just exponentially worse than saying 'the SS checks won't go out Aug 2, and Congress is not going to lift the Debt Ceiling....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-05   19:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#34)

CNN: S&P served notice it planned to downgrade U.S. AAA rating but is reconsidering, a senior administration official says.

Read:

They can't find the S&P guy that made that call.

The FBI is in the S&P Building looking. Told the guy used to work at the Texas Book Depository but had gone to a movie....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-05   19:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Skip Intro (#31)

I wish you wouldn't do this. I have Mad Eric bozoed for a reason, then you go and re-post his rants.

It was a priceless

'Truman Defeated '

Rant.

Won't happen again....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-05   19:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mcgowanjm (#35)

They can't find the S&P guy that made that call.

The FBI is in the S&P Building looking. Told the guy used to work at the Texas Book Depository but had gone to a movie....8D

James, a sense of humor is a good thing; otherwise, we'd all be crying.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-08-05   21:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Fred Mertz (#37)

James, a sense of humor is a good thing

but I'm serious....not....;}

(CBS/AP)

Credit rating agency Standard & Poor's says it has downgraded the United States' credit rating for the first time in the history of the ratings.

Debtors will find out Monday that they've got a 1/2 to Full Point added to their % rate.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-05   21:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Capitalist Eric (#27)

You seem to think that because the government has stolen your retirement money, you can steal my money.

Social Security income 2010 - $677.1 billion; paid out - $584.9 billion; net gain - $92.2 billion. Total assets - $2,429.0 trillion.

If anyone has stolen money, it's YOU! Money has been borrowed from SS to keep your taxes artificially low, now you squeal like a stuck pig when it's time to pay back.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-05   22:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Capitalist Eric (#28)

I have a steadfast resolve, to NOT be a slave to your socialist wet-dreams.

You sound paranoid as well as angry.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-05   22:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#40)

Maybe mininggold can give us an accurate diagnosis.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-08-05   22:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: mcgowanjm (#30)

This is insane. And yet exactly what the Top 50 000 believe:

Some people over-value their importance in the world while devaluing the contributions made by common men and women they despise.

"Some animals are more equal than others" - Eric is of the more equal ilk.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-05   22:36:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: lucysmom, jwpegler, skip intro, brian s (#1)

14% approval rating for Congress, 18% approval rating for the tea party.

Obama is sitting pretty even with his poor approval rating, thanks to the clowns in the GOP.

Tagline for sale - inquire within

go65  posted on  2011-08-05   22:57:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom (#42)

Some people over-value their importance in the world while devaluing the contributions made by common men and women they despise.

;}

And the real laugh riot is that w/o debt their importance vaporizes.

Which is why the pretzel logic for the past 4 years.

The rich deserve the Bail outs. The poor never deserve theirs....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-06   7:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: mcgowanjm (#44)

The rich deserve the Bail outs. The poor never deserve theirs....;}

Ha! and bonuses for being clever enough to get the bailout, while the wage earner is a deadbeat when he defaults on his mortgage because he was laid off when the economy tanked due to the machinations of the guy who got the bonus.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   9:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mcgowanjm (#38)

Debtors will find out Monday that they've got a 1/2 to Full Point added to their % rate.

Better than a tax increase for the wealthy is an interest rate hike on the common man.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   10:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: lucysmom (#46)

Better than a tax increase for the wealthy is an interest rate hike on the common man.

Better than a tax increase for the wealthy is an interest rate hike on the in debt man...

A place to stay and no debt and you're one of the wealthy Amerikans now.

Wonder what the Third World's like?

Wonder no more....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-06   10:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: All (#47)

Gonna be REAL hard for the Imperial City to explain how we need to keep sending $3 Billion a year to Israel....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-06   10:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: All (#48)

And forget the Somali's.

Start contributing to the Get the Troops Home fund...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-06   10:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: lucysmom (#45)

Ha! and bonuses for being clever enough to get the bailout, while the wage earner is a deadbeat when he defaults on his mortgage because he was laid off when the economy tanked due to the machinations of the guy who got the bonus.

Then cut the SS/Medicare/Unemnployment....

Like a baby throwing matches at a pool of gasoline surrounding a captured Iranian Arms Shipment in Cyprus....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-06   10:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: mcgowanjm (#50)

Then cut the SS/Medicare/Unemnployment....

The wealthy can't stand the idea that $2.4 trillion borrowed from Social Security needs to be paid back.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-06   11:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: lucysmom (#51) (Edited)

The wealthy can't stand the idea that $2.4 trillion borrowed from Social Security needs to be paid back.

And this:

We 'got' our AAA in 1917. We entered WWI in 1917.

We then 'lost' it. Don't know how yet. Bet it was the New Deal...;}

Then we 'got' it back in 1941.... 1941. 1941. WTF happened in 1941...

Ever thought you were being played? 8D

US loses AAA rating for first time | Radio Netherlands Worldwide www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/us-loses-aaa-rating-first-time-0 3 hours ago – It was the first time the US had been downgraded since it received an AAA rating from Moody's in 1917; it has held the S&P rating since 1941 ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-08-06   11:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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