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Title: Get ready to pay dearly for the ‘deal’ (can you believe this was written by an adult?)
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Buffalo News, (a.k.a. Lake Erie Pravda)
URL Source: http://www.buffalonews.com/city/columns/rod-watson/article511557.ece
Published: Aug 4, 2011
Author: Rod Watson
Post Date: 2011-08-05 09:27:04 by Get Outta Dodge!
Keywords: None
Views: 136211
Comments: 205
First “they came for the socialists. . . .” And they got them . . . and the progressives, and the moderates, and the entire middle and working classes, not to mention the economy itself. They got them all. While Pastor Martin Niemoller’s famous quote referred to the Nazis, it could just as easily be applied to the tea party extremists who rolled President Obama and Democrats in a “deal” that will have dire consequences for a poor, job-hungry city such as Buffalo. Obama broke a cardinal rule of presidents: Never negotiate with terrorists. But using the word “negotiate” may be giving this White House too much credit. Afraid that a small band of tea party radicals would blow up the economy, feckless Democrats who have no idea how to craft a message simply caved instead of getting out front in the debate. Who’ll pay for their timidity? You will, if you need help with your heating bill, want Western New York’s transportation network maintained, or don’t want education on the chopping block. Buffalo Niagara gets millions in everything from transit aid to block grants for economic development. All such programs face added jeopardy because the president went back on his vow to demand the balanced approach of cuts and revenues that polls show most Americans want. It’s one thing not to be able to lead people where they don’t want to go. It’s quite another not to be able to lead them in the direction they’re already pointing. Instead, this deal—composed entirely ofcuts— will hurt older, poorer cities such as Buffalo and slow economic growth even more while doing nothing to create jobs. In fact, it will cost jobs. The Economic Policy Institute says the plan’s failure to extend emergency unemployment benefits and the payroll tax holiday—the one tax cut that should have been included— will lower the GDP by a combined 1.2 percent and cost 1.5 million jobs next year. Try telling the 7.7 percent of Western New Yorkers—and 10.2 percent of Buffalonians— who are looking for work that this makes sense. And now that they’ve tasted blood— yours, if you’re not wealthy—the extremists will be back for more. With plans to stack the new “supercommittee” with members opposed to raising revenue, it’s possible the right wing will even sacrifice defense by triggering the $1.2 trillion in across-the-board cuts that result absent any other deal. In other words, the damage has only begun as we transition to government by minority rule. At a time when the economy needs to be juiced, Washington will be run by those who drank the Kool-Aid. And where were Chuck “Press Re-lease a Day” Schumer or other Democratic leaders—including the president —who could counter the right-wing nonsense machine and put so much heat on the non-crazy part of the GOP that the debate never would have come to this? Obama’s somnolent “let your member of Congress know” had some last-minute effect. But imagine how a real leader—say, a progressive equivalent of Ronald Reagan—would have taken control of this debate upfront. But the outcome shouldn’t surprise. Obama took single-payer off the table before health care talks even began, and this time, he nixed the 14th Amendment option even quicker. If you’re looking to score on a used-car deal, this is the guy you want to negotiate with. In the meantime, optimists think we’ll now have a grand debate about the role of government as the rest of the deal is hashed out before the 2012 election. But that would require forceful leadership with the stomach for that debate. Unfortunately for poor cities such as Buffalo, what we have instead are Obama and Harry Reid. Poster Comment: Ohhhhhhhhhh . . . Tea Partiers are Nazis. How original. Can you believe this guy writes for a metropolitan daily? (Yeah, I guess I can.)
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#165. To: Liberator (#158)
You've been brainwashed by talk radio. Any competent Republican could have beaten Harry Reid.
Wake up...stop living in this conservative delusion.
I see you and yukon are comparing CT notes. *snicker*
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Any competent Republican could have beaten Harry Reid. BUZZZZ!! (don't listen to talk radio) BUZZZZ!! Harry Reid's political/Union machine (which includes his own son) along with RNC sandbagging did the trick. Geez, you "moderate" 0bamanoids are soooo damn naive. But it's cute.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
I can name Pubbies who ignore GOP caucuses.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Who long have you been attending the Yukon School of RNC Fairy Tales?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
YOU might characterize them as, "hard-working Democrats."
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Nevada is more Libertarian than anything else.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Which made the unlikely re-election of Reid even more puzzling.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Except when you consider who the Republican candidate was.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
IOW..you can't name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate. No surprise here..you seem to have the political IQ of a squirrel.
IOW, you've just made up your own yukonian narrative of a supposed assertion attributed to me. LOL I stated: "I can name Pubbies who ignore GOP caucuses." Oh, and then here's you plying one of your yukonian bag of tricks: T-Bird: "Even the bluest RINO votes R when it comes to who they caucus with." Me: "In the Senate?? No way." Nice try, Yukon Jr.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Angle STILL should have beaten Reid-the-Mortician like a rented mule. You can believe what you want, but again, the collusion of Unions with the Dem Machine and RNC-RINO sandbagging was more than enough to bury Angle or any conservative Pubbie thrown at Reid.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
LOL!
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
No surprise here..you seem to have the political IQ of a squirrel. He's needs to be left alone to take his nap, as he's seeing multiple yukons under his bed again.
Which reminds me - With the multiple number of empty Gilbeys bottles under your bed, have you put much thought into redeeming the deposit money? You must be literally sleeping on thousands of dollars (if in your state you pay a deposit for the bottle. If not, disregard my suggestion.)
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
I can name Pubbies who ignore GOP caucuses. IOW..you can't name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate. Thunder-gnat's kind of republican Jeffords's was re-elected AS A REPUBLICAN in 2000. In 2001, he decided to caucus WITH THE DEMOCRATS. Looks like youre the one with the political IQ of a . . . gnat?
Must you always answer for Liberator?
You are having visions of what's under my bed too? You DO know the VA does have Psych departments?
We work in shifts - he took the morning, I've got the afternoon. Educating you loons is a full time job. But you and lucysmom already know about shift work. That is, unless you ARE lucysmom . . . . hmmmm. . . .
That is, unless you ARE lucysmom . . . . hmmmm. . . . Believe what you want I love it when you guys are wrong. And Stone goes on vacation and all of a sudden you are the dominant force on this forum after having posted very little for months. Hummmmm
That is, unless you ARE lucysmom . . . . hmmmm. . . . LOL - I mix up the moonbats myself sometimes; Lucy is more polite and...sober, so I know they must be two different moonbats.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Looks like youre the one with the political IQ of a . . . gnat? Oooops!
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
*sigh* MEMO: LF is a an open forum. As always, your collective dopey leftist disinformation, propaganda, and bullsh*t is subject to ridicule by others.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Actually you were asked the question to ascertain your political abilities. It seems you failed again. And your Goldi Lox excuse doesn't cut it here.
IOW..you can't name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate.
You just got pwned. Deal with it, Loser.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
You better watch it or Libby will think you are yukon.
The guy doesn't seem to even understand the dynamics of the US Senate in a two- party system..I'm not sure just a nap will be enough to lift his stupor.
It amuses me to watch you create your own reality. I suppose there's not much that can be done about that except attend your AA meetings twice a day as you attempt in vain to dry out.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
I don't see that post where YOU named the Senator in question. Maybe it's under my bed with your bottles and the yukons.
Lol! Ok squirrel..if you say so.
HA! It's so quaint that you believe in the "Two-Party" fairy tale. LOOOOVE the "dynamics" of Snowe and Collins and Murkowski. Hey - and how about that Jeffords(R) caucusing with the (D)s, eh? Or how about that Specter(R + D)?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
I don't see where I posed the question or found it relevant in the first place... lol. (hiccup)
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
(hiccup) Why not just say so then?
You just got pwned. Deal with it, Loser. whinyold; I don't see that post where YOU named the Senator in question. Maybe it's under my bed with your bottles and the yukons. Can YOU see THIS you stoopid, lying, libTURD whore? *************************************** "#176. To: Thunderbird (#175) IOW..you can't name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate. IOW, you've just made up your own yukonian narrative of a supposed assertion attributed to me. LOL L; I stated: "I can name Pubbies who ignore GOP caucuses." Oh, and then here's you plying one of your yukonian bag of tricks: T-Bird: "Even the bluest RINO votes R when it comes to who they caucus with." Me: "In the Senate?? No way." Nice try, Yukon Jr." ******************************* You libTURD cunts aren't all that bright are YOU? Oh THAT'S right! I forgot. You libTURDS are LIARS on top of being STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID. Silly me. As you were, you libTURD cunts. Go play in the traffic.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Your manners (as always) ensure a method of excellent communication capability for a mental midget. However, if you want to broaden your dialogue with others, I highly recommend that you "tone" it down a bit. Moderator X is watching over us on LF on this fine Sunday.
Nevadans to Reid: Stop! Thief! By Wes Vernon Democrats in Nevada have been accused of using strong-arm tactics best symbolized in recent years by the likes of ACORN and SEIU, so as to steal the election for Senate Democrat leader Harry Reid. Here Citizen, let me "help you" vote The "funny business" started when voters in Boulder City (near Las Vegas) showed up to cast their (early voting) ballot for Reid's Republican opponent, Sharron Angle. Within five minutes, they reported that Senator Reid's name had already been checked. Joyce Ferrara, one of the Angle voters, dismissed claims by Clark County Registrar Larry Lomax that there is no voter fraud and that "elderly citizens" may find the touch screens "very sensitive." (Translation: "You stupid old people.") "Something is not right," Ferrara insisted. "One person, that's a fluke. Two, that's strange. But several within a five-minute period of time, that's wrong." Outright illegality Cleta Mitchell — candidate Sharron Angle's attorney — charges that "Harry Reid intends to steal this election if he can't win it outright." On behalf of the campaign, Mitchell has demanded investigations into such tactics by Reid supporters as offering free food and Starbucks gift cards for a vote in support of the senator. Ms. Mitchell alleges that Nevada Secretary of State Ross Miller — a Democrat — "slammed the door shut on this behavior and issued a public statement permitting these ACORN-style tactics." A few hours later, however, Miller announced that he was launching a probe into Republican allegations of early voting irregularities not only in Clark County, but in Washoe County (Reno) as well. The Angle campaign's supporters — most of them small donors (in contrast to Reid's fat lobbyist/special interest war-chest) — are coughing up the funding required to "deploy literally dozens of election law attorneys and poll watchers to combat these tactics." Secretary of state Traditionally, the office of Secretary of State on the state level has been a rather nondescript, non-controversial office. Not anymore. These are, after all, the people who count the votes. The Left (mainly ACORN) has worked to get "its own people" to seek that office, figuring that when it comes time to steal elections, their tactics can get an official stamp of approval — deserved or not. Nevada's Miller, however, cites his own legal battles with ACORN months ago. Cleta Mitchell — one of the best election law barristers in the country — cites Nevada Law (NRS 293.700) which provides that "A person who bribes, offers to bribe, or uses any other corrupt means directly or indirectly, to influence any elector in giving his or her vote or to deter the elector from giving it is guilty of a category D felony, and shall be punished as provided in NRS.193.130." Miller says so far there is "no evidence" of the chicanery. So what does that say to the honest Nevada voter? If you suspect your vote may be being canceled out by an ACORN goon, better show up at the voting booth with a camera, a lawyer, and a notary public? Just to compound the suspicion 1 — Clark County, home of 75 percent of Nevada voters, is where Harry Reid's son Rory — a gubernatorial candidate — is also a county commissioner. 2 — The voting machine technicians in Clark County are members of the SEIU. 3 — In Nevada alone, the SEIU has given $500,000 to the Harry Reid campaign against Sharron Angle — perfectly legal but relevant to the above-cited circumstances. Washington Examiner columnist Mark Hemingway writes that while there is "no verifiable evidence of chicanery with the voting machines (yet)," all this raises the question: Should SEIU members be responsible for tabulating votes? Is there "an appearance" of conflict of interest? (Hmmmm. SEIU icon Andy Stern is reportedly the most frequent visitor to the White House? Hello. Fawncy meeting you here!)
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
So who is Moderator X????
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
My Majiick 8 ball says:
Uh, no. It's because of the usual leftist media propaganda, The Fix and the Union Thugs in Nevada. Reid should have gotten his azz kicked from Reno to Vegas.
#166. To: Liberator (#159)
NOT when the RNC is controlled by Elitist Gays(R).
#167. To: Thunderbird (#166)
Wake up...stop living in this conservative delusion.
#168. To: Thunderbird (#165)
(Edited)
You've been brainwashed by talk radio.
#169. To: Thunderbird (#164)
Ok...name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate.
#170. To: Thunderbird (#163)
How long have you been in this stupor about the 2010 elections?
#171. To: lucysmom (#161)
Union thugs in Nevada?
#172. To: Liberator (#171)
YOU might characterize them as, "hard-working Democrats."
#173. To: lucysmom (#172)
Nevada is more Libertarian than anything else.
#174. To: Liberator (#173)
Which made the unlikely re-election of Reid even more puzzling.
#175. To: Liberator (#169)
(Edited)
I can name Pubbies who ignore GOP caucuses.
#176. To: Thunderbird (#175)
IOW..you can't name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate.
#177. To: lucysmom (#174)
#178. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#148)
Watch out! Or I shall come back as as Beelzebub's_Grandson@HELL.com to infest your chit-chat forum besides having the hordes of Hades descend upon you as I did at LP.
#179. To: Thunderbird (#175)
IOW..you can't name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate.
#180. To: mininggold (#179)
....he's seeing multiple yukons under his bed again.
#181. To: Thunder-gnat, Liberator (#175)
"My o my, what's a party hack to do
When the party hack he elects, proceeds to screw?
#182. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#181)
Jeffords's was re-elected AS A REPUBLICAN in 2000. In 2001, he decided to caucus WITH THE DEMOCRATS.
#183. To: Liberator (#180)
(Edited)
Which reminds me - With the multiple number of empty Gilbeys bottles under your bed, have you put much thought into redeeming the deposit money? You must be literally sleeping on thousands of dollars (if in your state you pay a deposit for the bottle. If not, disregard my suggestion.)
#184. To: mininggold aka lucysmom, Liberator (#182)
Must you always answer for Liberator?
#185. To: Get Outta Dodge!, buckeroo (#184)
(Edited)
But you and lucysmom already know about shift work.
#186. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#184)
But you and lucysmom already know about shift work.
#187. To: Get Outta Dodge!, T-Gnat (#181)
#188. To: mininggold, Get Outta Dodge!, Thunderbird (#182)
Must you always answer for Liberator?
#189. To: Liberator (#188)
LF is a an open forum. As always, your collective dopey leftist disinformation, propaganda, and bullsh*t is subject to ridicule by others
#190. To: mininggold (#185)
And Stone goes on vacation and all of a sudden you are the dominant force on this forum after having posted very little for months. Hummmmm
#191. To: Liberator (#176)
#192. To: Thunderbird (#191)
#193. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#190)
#194. To: mininggold (#179)
He's needs to be left alone to take his nap, as he's seeing multiple yukons under his bed again.
#195. To: mininggold (#189)
Actually you were asked the question to ascertain your political abilities.
#196. To: Liberator (#192)
(Edited)
You just got pwned. Deal with it, Loser.
#197. To: Liberator (#192)
You just got pwned. Deal with it, Loser.
#198. To: Thunderbird (#194)
The guy doesn't seem to even understand the dynamics of the US Senate in a two- party system..
#199. To: mininggold (#196)
I don't see that post where YOU named the Senator in question.
#200. To: Liberator (#199)
I don't see where I posed the question or found it relevant in the first place... lol.
#201. To: mininggold, paganpink, Liberator (#196)
#202. To: Mad Dog, Moderator X (#201)
(Edited)
#203. To: Liberator (#177)
You can believe what you want, but again, the collusion of Unions with the Dem Machine and RNC-RINO sandbagging was more than enough to bury Angle or any conservative Pubbie thrown at Reid.
#204. To: buckeroo (#202)
Moderator X is watching over us on LF on this fine Sunday.
#205. To: CZ82 (#204)
So who is Moderator X????
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