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Title: Get ready to pay dearly for the ‘deal’ (can you believe this was written by an adult?)
Source: Buffalo News, (a.k.a. Lake Erie Pravda)
URL Source: http://www.buffalonews.com/city/columns/rod-watson/article511557.ece
Published: Aug 4, 2011
Author: Rod Watson
Post Date: 2011-08-05 09:27:04 by Get Outta Dodge!
Keywords: None
Views: 144332
Comments: 205

First “they came for the socialists. . . .” And they got them . . . and the progressives, and the moderates, and the entire middle and working classes, not to mention the economy itself. They got them all.

While Pastor Martin Niemoller’s famous quote referred to the Nazis, it could just as easily be applied to the tea party extremists who rolled President Obama and Democrats in a “deal” that will have dire consequences for a poor, job-hungry city such as Buffalo.

Obama broke a cardinal rule of presidents: Never negotiate with terrorists. But using the word “negotiate” may be giving this White House too much credit.

Afraid that a small band of tea party radicals would blow up the economy, feckless Democrats who have no idea how to craft a message simply caved instead of getting out front in the debate.

Who’ll pay for their timidity? You will, if you need help with your heating bill, want Western New York’s transportation network maintained, or don’t want education on the chopping block.

Buffalo Niagara gets millions in everything from transit aid to block grants for economic development. All such programs face added jeopardy because the president went back on his vow to demand the balanced approach of cuts and revenues that polls show most Americans want.

It’s one thing not to be able to lead people where they don’t want to go. It’s quite another not to be able to lead them in the direction they’re already pointing.

Instead, this deal—composed entirely ofcuts— will hurt older, poorer cities such as Buffalo and slow economic growth even more while doing nothing to create jobs.

In fact, it will cost jobs. The Economic Policy Institute says the plan’s failure to extend emergency unemployment benefits and the payroll tax holiday—the one tax cut that should have been included— will lower the GDP by a combined 1.2 percent and cost 1.5 million jobs next year.

Try telling the 7.7 percent of Western New Yorkers—and 10.2 percent of Buffalonians— who are looking for work that this makes sense.

And now that they’ve tasted blood— yours, if you’re not wealthy—the extremists will be back for more. With plans to stack the new “supercommittee” with members opposed to raising revenue, it’s possible the right wing will even sacrifice defense by triggering the $1.2 trillion in across-the-board cuts that result absent any other deal.

In other words, the damage has only begun as we transition to government by minority rule. At a time when the economy needs to be juiced, Washington will be run by those who drank the Kool-Aid.

And where were Chuck “Press Re-lease a Day” Schumer or other Democratic leaders—including the president —who could counter the right-wing nonsense machine and put so much heat on the non-crazy part of the GOP that the debate never would have come to this?

Obama’s somnolent “let your member of Congress know” had some last-minute effect. But imagine how a real leader—say, a progressive equivalent of Ronald Reagan—would have taken control of this debate upfront.

But the outcome shouldn’t surprise. Obama took single-payer off the table before health care talks even began, and this time, he nixed the 14th Amendment option even quicker. If you’re looking to score on a used-car deal, this is the guy you want to negotiate with.

In the meantime, optimists think we’ll now have a grand debate about the role of government as the rest of the deal is hashed out before the 2012 election. But that would require forceful leadership with the stomach for that debate.

Unfortunately for poor cities such as Buffalo, what we have instead are Obama and Harry Reid.

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#150. To: Thundergnat, Liberator (#149)

What good again are RINOs who routinely vote with Democrats?

Good grief...I told you the reason was to take the Senate majority away from the Democrats. You have to be pretty dense not to understand the concept.

Yeah, Libby . . . how dense are you, anyway.

An "R" Senate majority that floods us in an ocean of red ink and takes away more liberties on a daily basis . . .

. . . is MUCH BETTER than a "D" Senate majority that floods us in an ocean of red ink and takes away more liberties on a daily basis.

GET WITH THE FREAKING PROGRAM!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-08-06   20:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Thunderbird (#149)
(Edited)

Good grief...I told you the reason was to take the Senate majority away from the Democrats. You have to be pretty dense not to understand the concept.

IF RINOs don't vote with other Pubbies, WTH do their the votes matter when they vote with DEMS? HELLO.

A lot of good your suggestion did when we were told back in 2004 to endorse RINOs (like Specter and Ahnold.)

The GOP owned the Presidency, Senate, and House yet conservatism was shoved backward. Or have you amnesia and forgotten?

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-06   20:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Get Outta Dodge!, T-Bird (#150)

Yeah, Libby . . . how dense are you, anyway.

An "R" Senate majority that floods us in an ocean of red ink and takes away more liberties on a daily basis . . .

. . . is MUCH BETTER than a "D" Senate majority that floods us in an ocean of red ink and takes away more liberties on a daily basis.

GET WITH THE FREAKING PROGRAM!!

LOL...

T-Bird must be Dem, centrist-RINO him/her/itself, or have a horrible memory.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-06   20:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Liberator (#151)

IF RINOs don't vote with other Pubbies, WTH do their the votes matter when they vote with DEMS?

True fact..even the bluest RINO votes R when it comes to who they caucus with.

The fact that Harry Reid holds a gavel in the US Senate today is because of tea- party intransigence and conservative's inability to count to 51.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-07   11:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#150)

If you can't see the difference that Republican control of both houses of Congress would have in stopping the Obama agenda, what right do you have to complain about anything the Obama government does?

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-07   11:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Liberator (#152)

T-Bird must be Dem, centrist-RINO him/her/itself, or have a horrible memory.

You conservative thumbsuckers made your bed when you chose idjits like Sharron Angle to be your standard bearer, its long past time to be whining about the result.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-07   11:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Thunderbird (#155)

You conservative thumbsuckers made your bed when you chose idjits like Sharron Angle to be your standard bearer, its long past time to be whining about the result.

Angle?? LOL! Yeah - The Mortician Reid wuz soooo much better. Uhhh....Time to move on, Sparky.

So tell me - what's the NEXT disastrous move of you Messiah-in-Chief? ANY idea how he and your precious Dims will f**k the country up??

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Liberator (#151)

The GOP owned the Presidency, Senate, and House yet conservatism was shoved backward.

This grand conservatism you talk about is a figment of your imagination.

It doesn't exist and never has.

Get over it.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-07   11:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Thunderbird (#153)

Even the bluest RINO votes R when it comes to who they caucus with.

In the Senate?? No way.

The fact that Harry Reid holds a gavel in the US Senate today is because of tea- party intransigence and conservative's inability to count to 51.

Uh, no. It's because of the usual leftist media propaganda, The Fix and the Union Thugs in Nevada. Reid should have gotten his azz kicked from Reno to Vegas.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Thunderbird (#157)

This grand conservatism you talk about is a figment of your imagination.

It doesn't exist and never has.

NOT when the RNC is controlled by Elitist Gays(R).

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   11:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Thunderbird (#157)

This grand conservatism you talk about is a figment of your imagination.

It doesn't exist and never has.

Get over it.

Oh.... No..... Not another myth of the right along with those free market fantasies, shredded. I hope you don't send someone jumping with that one.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: Liberator (#158)

...The Fix and the Union Thugs in Nevada. Reid should have gotten his azz kicked from Reno to Vegas.

Union thugs in Nevada?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-07   11:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: lucysmom (#161)

Union thugs in Nevada?

I wonder if the Nevada Mafia is aware?

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   11:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Liberator (#156)

Angle?? LOL! Yeah - The Mortician Reid wuz soooo much better. Uhhh....Time to move on, Sparky.

No..there were better Republicans available to run against Reid except the tea- party types decided that Angle was a more 'conservative' choice.

How long have you been in this stupor about the 2010 elections?

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-07   11:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Liberator (#158)

(tb) Even the bluest RINO votes R when it comes to who they caucus with.

(lib) In the Senate?? No way.

Ok...name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-07   11:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Liberator (#158)

Uh, no. It's because of the usual leftist media propaganda, The Fix and the Union Thugs in Nevada. Reid should have gotten his azz kicked from Reno to Vegas.

You've been brainwashed by talk radio.

Any competent Republican could have beaten Harry Reid.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-07   11:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Liberator (#159)

NOT when the RNC is controlled by Elitist Gays(R).

Wake up...stop living in this conservative delusion.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-07   11:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Thunderbird (#166)

Wake up...stop living in this conservative delusion.

I see you and yukon are comparing CT notes.

*snicker*

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   12:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Thunderbird (#165) (Edited)

You've been brainwashed by talk radio.

Any competent Republican could have beaten Harry Reid.

BUZZZZ!! (don't listen to talk radio)

BUZZZZ!! Harry Reid's political/Union machine (which includes his own son) along with RNC sandbagging did the trick.

Geez, you "moderate" 0bamanoids are soooo damn naive. But it's cute.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   12:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Thunderbird (#164)

Ok...name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate.

I can name Pubbies who ignore GOP caucuses.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   12:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Thunderbird (#163)

How long have you been in this stupor about the 2010 elections?

Who long have you been attending the Yukon School of RNC Fairy Tales?

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   12:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: lucysmom (#161)

Union thugs in Nevada?

YOU might characterize them as, "hard-working Democrats."

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   12:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Liberator (#171)

YOU might characterize them as, "hard-working Democrats."

Nevada is more Libertarian than anything else.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-07   12:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: lucysmom (#172)

Nevada is more Libertarian than anything else.

Which made the unlikely re-election of Reid even more puzzling.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   12:36:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Liberator (#173)

Which made the unlikely re-election of Reid even more puzzling.

Except when you consider who the Republican candidate was.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-08-07   12:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Liberator (#169) (Edited)

I can name Pubbies who ignore GOP caucuses.

IOW..you can't name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate.

No surprise here..you seem to have the political IQ of a squirrel.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-08-07   12:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Thunderbird (#175)

IOW..you can't name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate.

IOW, you've just made up your own yukonian narrative of a supposed assertion attributed to me. LOL

I stated:

"I can name Pubbies who ignore GOP caucuses."

Oh, and then here's you plying one of your yukonian bag of tricks:

T-Bird: "Even the bluest RINO votes R when it comes to who they caucus with."

Me: "In the Senate?? No way."

Nice try, Yukon Jr.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   12:57:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: lucysmom (#174)

Angle STILL should have beaten Reid-the-Mortician like a rented mule.

You can believe what you want, but again, the collusion of Unions with the Dem Machine and RNC-RINO sandbagging was more than enough to bury Angle or any conservative Pubbie thrown at Reid.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   13:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#148)

Watch out! Or I shall come back as as Beelzebub's_Grandson@HELL.com to infest your chit-chat forum besides having the hordes of Hades descend upon you as I did at LP.

LOL!

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   13:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Thunderbird (#175)

IOW..you can't name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate.

No surprise here..you seem to have the political IQ of a squirrel.

He's needs to be left alone to take his nap, as he's seeing multiple yukons under his bed again.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   13:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: mininggold (#179)

....he's seeing multiple yukons under his bed again.

Which reminds me - With the multiple number of empty Gilbeys bottles under your bed, have you put much thought into redeeming the deposit money? You must be literally sleeping on thousands of dollars (if in your state you pay a deposit for the bottle. If not, disregard my suggestion.)

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   13:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Thunder-gnat, Liberator (#175)

I can name Pubbies who ignore GOP caucuses.

IOW..you can't name one Republican who has ever caucused with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Thunder-gnat's kind of republican

Jeffords's was re-elected AS A REPUBLICAN in 2000. In 2001, he decided to caucus WITH THE DEMOCRATS.

"My o my, what's a party hack to do
When the party hack he elects, proceeds to screw?

Looks like youre the one with the political IQ of a . . . gnat?

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-08-07   13:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#181)

Jeffords's was re-elected AS A REPUBLICAN in 2000. In 2001, he decided to caucus WITH THE DEMOCRATS.

Must you always answer for Liberator?

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   13:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Liberator (#180) (Edited)

Which reminds me - With the multiple number of empty Gilbeys bottles under your bed, have you put much thought into redeeming the deposit money? You must be literally sleeping on thousands of dollars (if in your state you pay a deposit for the bottle. If not, disregard my suggestion.)

You are having visions of what's under my bed too? You DO know the VA does have Psych departments?

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   13:30:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: mininggold aka lucysmom, Liberator (#182)

Must you always answer for Liberator?

We work in shifts - he took the morning, I've got the afternoon. Educating you loons is a full time job.

But you and lucysmom already know about shift work.

That is, unless you ARE lucysmom . . . .

hmmmm. . . .

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-08-07   13:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Get Outta Dodge!, buckeroo (#184) (Edited)

But you and lucysmom already know about shift work.

That is, unless you ARE lucysmom . . . .

hmmmm. . . .

Believe what you want I love it when you guys are wrong.

And Stone goes on vacation and all of a sudden you are the dominant force on this forum after having posted very little for months. Hummmmm

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   13:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#184)

But you and lucysmom already know about shift work.

That is, unless you ARE lucysmom . . . .

hmmmm. . . .

LOL - I mix up the moonbats myself sometimes; Lucy is more polite and...sober, so I know they must be two different moonbats.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   13:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Get Outta Dodge!, T-Gnat (#181)

(Jeffords's was re-elected AS A REPUBLICAN in 2000. In 2001, he decided to caucus WITH THE DEMOCRATS.)

Looks like youre the one with the political IQ of a . . . gnat?

Oooops!

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   13:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: mininggold, Get Outta Dodge!, Thunderbird (#182)

Must you always answer for Liberator?

*sigh*

MEMO:

LF is a an open forum. As always, your collective dopey leftist disinformation, propaganda, and bullsh*t is subject to ridicule by others.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-08-07   13:46:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Liberator (#188)

LF is a an open forum. As always, your collective dopey leftist disinformation, propaganda, and bullsh*t is subject to ridicule by others

Actually you were asked the question to ascertain your political abilities. It seems you failed again.

And your Goldi Lox excuse doesn't cut it here.

mininggold  posted on  2011-08-07   13:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: mininggold (#185)

And Stone goes on vacation and all of a sudden you are the dominant force on this forum after having posted very little for months. Hummmmm

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-08-07   13:54:49 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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