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Title: The Tea Party: Same Old Authoritarian Conservatives With a New Label
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Justia.com
URL Source: http://verdict.justia.com/2011/07/29/the-tea-party/
Published: Jul 29, 2011
Author: John Dean
Post Date: 2011-07-29 12:08:49 by lucysmom
Keywords: Tea Party, The Destroyers
Views: 40504
Comments: 71
The debt-ceiling debate, better described as an extortion ploy by the Tea Party-controlled Republicans of the U.S House of Representatives, has raised a question: Who, exactly, are these largely anonymous troublemakers? When I did a little digging, I realized that I know these people all too well. Indeed, I had actually written about them before they morphed into their current form. They are, in fact, both old and new authoritarian conservatives. These authoritarians are a notoriously nasty crew. If you have not noticed, they are delighted with what is happening in Washington, the chaos they have created. Actually, they are thrilled that they have been able to turn the Nation’s Capital upside down, as they actively work to screw up federal government in the hope of literally destroying it. If you look closely, it is obvious that most of these Tea Party people have no real idea about the potential consequences of their actions, and they do not care to inform themselves. These are people who will pick a fight for the sake of picking a fight, refusing to compromise about anything that conflicts with their collective agenda, just because that feels to them like the right thing to do.
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#31. To: A K A Stone (#29)
Why are you a deadbeat who believes that people shouldn't pay their debts?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
This is the only industrialized nation on the planet without a coherent national education policy. If we asked you for one, it would be pledge and prayer...repeat as necessary.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid...not mattter how much you spend.
If the federal government continues to reduce the money it sends to the sates, the states will have less money to go around. For instance, taxes in Texas account for only 43% of state receipts, the federal government supplies 37%. Why are you complaining about college debt? You are in love with debt. I'm not complaining, I'm stating a reality that is the less money the state has, the less money it has to spend on education; the difference in higher education is made up in higher tuition, and fewer grants. The result is that fewer of "our" kids go to college, or more kids start their adult life with high debt to pay off. If you give a damn about "our" kids, then you should give a damn about that.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
If we don't change that, we will either be left behind, or need to rely on immigrants educated by their home countries to do our doctoring, research, engineering, and all that other stuff that once made us great.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Ha
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
That isn't an answer to the question. That is spin for higher taxes. Does the federal government have a constitutional role in education. Yes or no will suffice.
Hmm. Only the richest nation has that. Interesting. So does the federal government have a constitutional role in education? Be honest please. What would be the lawful way for the feds to have a role in education? The constitution provides a legal means for the feds to be involved in education. Ever heard of a constitutional amendment? Apparently the people don't want that or they would have amended the constitution. From your words it is obvious the you support usurping the constitution if it fits your agenda.
Bullshit. Since the feds got involved education has gotten worse. More collectivist crap. I am an individual with individual rights. I'm not part of the collective. You would probably fit in with the rulers of China.
Why are you a deadbeat who believes that people shouldn't pay their debts? Pretend debts. The debt is Obamas personally. Chain him up until he works it off like a slave.
Yes
Yes Liar. The powers that the feds have are enumerated. Show me them. You can't because you lie regularly.
Actually the only proven lies here are from you, but then you bordlines love to lie and do your patented splitting.
Are you part of this country or not?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
I'm still waiting for where you find authorization in the constitution. Is it in the interstate commerce clause? lol
I am an indivudual that resides in the United States. That doesn't mean I am like a worker bee for them.
Is it in the interstate commerce clause? lol It provides a climate in which the pursuit of education can occur.
Can you make your point in non kook speak?
Prove it. I'm not part of the collective. Then what in the world are you doing on the internet? You would probably fit in with the rulers of China. Yeah, I'm sure you've noticed how I keep my mouth shut and go along to get along.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
You tell me to prove education is getting worse. I'm not going to waste my time looking it up I know it is true. But I will ask you this. Is is your position that education is getting better? That our schools improving and turning out smarter people? That has to be your position if I am wrong.
Then what in the world are you doing on the internet? So if we are on the internet we have to be part of some collective and follow their orders? That sounds...well....kooky.
Yeah, I'm sure you've noticed how I keep my mouth shut and go along to get along. You wouldn't need to open your mouth and argue. They already agree with you and kill people who don't. But I will give you credit on your wit.
The constitution is kook speak to you? Or does it allow the pursuit of happiness and provide for tha insurance of same? You are on a roll here today. But just don't let any future employer find out.
So the phrase "pursuit of happiness" found in the Declaration of Independence, not the constitution. That is the constitutional authorization for the feds to be involved in education. Don't you think that is a bit of a stretch? I was going to mention stupid pills but I won't this time. Maybe it is because you didn't pay attention in school.
You can't prove it without looking it up which translates to you ain't got no facts, just a FEELING. But I will ask you this. Is is your position that education is getting better? That our schools improving and turning out smarter people? That has to be your position if I am wrong. I went to school when California's school system was world class. The quality of education in the state is now mixed. Schools in wealthier districts are partly funded by private foundations established for the benefit of a specific school. You could say that those schools are semi-privatized. Schools in less wealthy communities have to get by on what they receive from the state. What that means is some students in public schools get an excellent education while others do not. "Smarter" is a function of genetics.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Don't you think that is a bit of a stretch? I was going to mention stupid pills but I won't this time. Maybe it is because you didn't pay attention in school. I prefer each state pay for their own school programs so we from the richer states an make fun of those who graduate from those run by the poor states.
Liar. There are different powers within the framework of the USCON: Enumerated or explicit. Reserved. Concurrent. Implied. Show me where a Department of Defense is enumerated. IN fact, within the Framing, there was no Department of Defense. It was created by the US Congress. The "meaning" of the USCON is found in its Preamble which states, among other things, TO PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE...the education of the citizens is most certainly within that... Also within the body of the USCON is this: He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law... --op cit Article II Section 2[b] The USCON states quite explcitly that not all departments and public officials are "enumerated" within its corpus. It further states that such departments and public officials SHALL BE ESTABLISHED BY LAW. The Framers left it to subsequent generations to decide and determine WHAT departments might be necessary and what public officials would be needed to administer to them. By EXPLICITLY putting this power in the hands of the US Congress, the Framers understood that such creation would be debated and decided at the NATIONAL level for the common weal of the NATION.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Think of everything you need to be on the internet - how many people are involved in creating what you need to make your participation possible?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Enumerated or explicit. Reserved. Concurrent. Implied. That's too abstract for Stone to grasp.
Well see right there, I'm against killing people who disagree with me. On the other hand, some here that you are more in harmony with have wished me dead. No objection from you, BTW.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Obama can only "spend" what the US Congress appropriates. Most of the debt that this nation owes was incurred by GOP POTUS'. The party YOU vote for.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
"Promote the general Welfare" works for me.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
That would be OK if we rich folk didn't have to make up for their lack of education with our tax money.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
If the Republican dominated Congress wants a balanced budget all it has to do is pass one.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
They never cared about it until Darky McDark got elected.
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Absolutely, just like the Teabaggers didn't care about Bush's huge deficit spending, but now that Darky McDark is president are outraged about it. Purely a coincidence.
I've found that most who demand Constitutional "orthodoxy" the loudest are usually the quietest about what it actually "says"...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Nicely stated...can't wait for Stone's equally eloquent rebuttal
Me either. I think his Borderline PD might be kicking in again.
<<< crickets >>>>
Why are you a collectivist that believes that people who earn money don't deserve the fruits of their labor.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#32. To: A K A Stone (#30)
Education is a state issue not federal.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#33. To: lucysmom (#28)
I would be happy to help you raise the money to get that fixed.
#34. To: A K A Stone (#30)
Education is a state issue not federal. Do you acknowledge that? Or do you support usurpers?
#35. To: war (#32)
This is the only industrialized nation on the planet without a coherent national education policy.
#36. To: Thunderbird (#33)
Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid...not mattter how much you spend.
#37. To: lucysmom (#34)
If the federal government continues to reduce the money it sends to the sates, the states will have less money to go around. For instance, taxes in Texas account for only 43% of state receipts, the federal government supplies 37%.
#38. To: war (#32)
This is the only industrialized nation on the planet without a coherent national education policy.
#39. To: lucysmom (#35)
If we don't change that, we will either be left behind, or need to rely on immigrants educated by their home countries to do our doctoring, research, engineering, and all that other stuff that once made us great.
#40. To: war (#31)
Why are you a collectivist that believes that people who earn money don't deserve the fruits of their labor.
#41. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Does the federal government have a constitutional role in education. Yes or no will suffice.
#42. To: mininggold (#41)
Does the federal government have a constitutional role in education. Yes or no will suffice.
#43. To: A K A Stone (#42)
(Edited)
The powers that the feds have are enumerated. Show me them. You can't because you lie regularly.
#44. To: A K A Stone (#37)
That is spin for higher taxes.
#45. To: mininggold (#43)
#46. To: lucysmom (#44)
#47. To: A K A Stone (#45)
I'm still waiting for where you find authorization in the constitution.
#48. To: mininggold (#47)
#49. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Bullshit. Since the feds got involved education has gotten worse.
#50. To: lucysmom (#49)
#51. To: lucysmom (#49)
I'm not part of the collective.
#52. To: lucysmom (#49)
You would probably fit in with the rulers of China.
#53. To: A K A Stone (#48)
Can you make your point in non kook speak?
#54. To: mininggold (#53)
The constitution is kook speak to you? Or does it allow the pursuit of happiness and provide for tha insurance of same?
#55. To: A K A Stone (#50)
You tell me to prove education is getting worse. I'm not going to waste my time looking it up I know it is true.
#56. To: A K A Stone (#54)
So the phrase "pursuit of happiness" found in the Declaration of Independence, not the constitution. That is the constitutional authorization for the feds to be involved in education.
#57. To: A K A Stone (#42)
The powers that the feds have are enumerated.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#58. To: A K A Stone (#51)
So if we are on the internet we have to be part of some collective and follow their orders? That sounds...well....kooky.
#59. To: war, A K A Stone (#57)
There are different powers within the framework of the USCON:
#60. To: A K A Stone (#52)
They already agree with you and kill people who don't.
#61. To: A K A Stone (#40)
(Edited)
The debt is Obamas personally
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#62. To: A K A Stone (#54)
So the phrase "pursuit of happiness"...
#63. To: mininggold (#56)
I prefer each state pay for their own school programs so we from the richer states an make fun of those who graduate from those run by the poor states.
#64. To: war (#61)
Obama can only "spend" what the US Congress appropriates.
#65. To: lucysmom (#64)
If the Republican dominated Congress wants a balanced budget all it has to do is pass one.
#66. To: Skip Intro (#65)
They never cared about it until Darky McDark got elected.
#67. To: lucysmom (#66)
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
#68. To: mininggold (#59)
That's too abstract for Stone to grasp.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#69. To: war (#57)
The USCON states quite explcitly that not all departments and public officials are "enumerated" within its corpus. It further states that such departments and public officials SHALL BE ESTABLISHED BY LAW. The Framers left it to subsequent generations to decide and determine WHAT departments might be necessary and what public officials would be needed to administer to them.
#70. To: Thunderbird (#69)
#71. To: Fred Mertz (#70)
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