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Title: The Tea Party: Same Old Authoritarian Conservatives With a New Label
Source: Justia.com
URL Source: http://verdict.justia.com/2011/07/29/the-tea-party/
Published: Jul 29, 2011
Author: John Dean
Post Date: 2011-07-29 12:08:49 by lucysmom
Keywords: Tea Party, The Destroyers
Views: 40532
Comments: 71

The debt-ceiling debate, better described as an extortion ploy by the Tea Party-controlled Republicans of the U.S House of Representatives, has raised a question: Who, exactly, are these largely anonymous troublemakers? When I did a little digging, I realized that I know these people all too well. Indeed, I had actually written about them before they morphed into their current form. They are, in fact, both old and new authoritarian conservatives.

These authoritarians are a notoriously nasty crew. If you have not noticed, they are delighted with what is happening in Washington, the chaos they have created. Actually, they are thrilled that they have been able to turn the Nation’s Capital upside down, as they actively work to screw up federal government in the hope of literally destroying it.

If you look closely, it is obvious that most of these Tea Party people have no real idea about the potential consequences of their actions, and they do not care to inform themselves. These are people who will pick a fight for the sake of picking a fight, refusing to compromise about anything that conflicts with their collective agenda, just because that feels to them like the right thing to do.

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#16. To: hondo68 (#13)

LMAO!!!

LOVE that graphic!!!

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-29   16:39:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: hondo68 (#10)

Your view of the Tea Party as a bunch of Koch zombies out to destroy the world is not paranoid?

That's not my view.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-29   16:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Capitalist Eric (#11)

Your article doesn't paint with a "broad brush," it paints with a crop-duster.

You have specific complaints about the attempts to cut spending? Fine, I understand. You want a specific government program cut, or another one left alone? Fine, I certainly understand...

But your article attacks- in very personal, and nasty terms- anyone who dares to stand up to the state.

And thus your complaints about me using "personal attacks" ring quite hollow.

To attack an individual, as you do me, is personal; to paint "with a crop-duster" is not specific enough to be personal.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-29   16:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#18)

Don't try to BS me. You're caught in your own hypocrisy, and trying to split hairs, to rationalize it away.

You're a hypocrite.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-29   17:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom, Capitalist Eric (#18)

To attack an individual, as you do me, is personal; to paint "with a crop-duster" is not specific enough to be personal.

Honestly; you say the most absurd and inane and ignorant shit.

I can't see how you can still know how to breathe when I see the depth of your mental deficiencies.

You should thank the Lord that he made involuntary muscles for breathing.

Otherwise you would just flat die of being stoopid.

S ... T ... O ... O ... P ... I ... D ...

Think about how YOU feel about ME ST.

Think about how YOU feel about CONSERVATIVES OO.

Think about how you feel about Repukelican'ts OP.

YOU are the QUEEN of the "crop duster" ID.

LOL!

BUT of COURSE!

Coming from YOU, a well known font of libTURD dogma and talking points, it's NOT "personal"?

Right?

LOL!

LOL!

LOL!

It's like a train wreck, you just can't look away ...

Once AGAIN, YOU PROVE ...

"libTURD thy name is HYPOCRITE!"

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-07-29   17:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Capitalist Eric (#19)

Don't try to BS me. You're caught in your own hypocrisy, and trying to split hairs, to rationalize it away.

In order for me to be the hypocrite here, you would have to be grandiose enough to believe the article posted was about you.

Everything is not about you Eric.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-29   17:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lucysmom (#0) (Edited)

Who, exactly, are these largely anonymous troublemakers?

Troublemakers???

We have to eliminate them just like Lenin, Stalin, Hilter, Pol Pot and so many other "leaders" did.

You can see it coming clear as day.


To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. — Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-29   17:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: jwpegler (#22)

We have to eliminate them just like Lenin, Stalin, Hilter, Pol Pot and so many other "leaders".

That is a product of black and white thinking typical of the radical right for whom there is no getting along or compromise.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-29   17:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#21)

Capitalist Eric: Don't try to BS me. You're caught in your own hypocrisy, and trying to split hairs, to rationalize it away.

Loonymom: In order for me to be the hypocrite here, you would have to be grandiose enough to believe the article posted was about you.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you post ANOTHER lie... Typical Alice-In-Wonderland logic.

OMG, TOO FUNNY!!!!!!

Thanks for making me spit coffee on my keyboard...

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots...

THEIR God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-29   17:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#0)

The essence of this article is stick your head in the sand lets borrow 10 trillion more dollars over the next 10 years. Our kids can pay for it. Fuck that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   0:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lucysmom (#1)

Yes, goofy, its true. John Dean parrots DNC talking points.

Nice catch...(eyes rolling)

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-30   2:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#25)

The essence of this article is stick your head in the sand lets borrow 10 trillion more dollars over the next 10 years. Our kids can pay for it. Fuck that.

There is a time to borrow, and a time to pay back - the Bush tax cuts left us borrowing when we should have been paying down debt.

Now when we need to borrow to mitigate financial harm, conservatives (the same guys that wanted their tax cuts and the economic health of the country be damned) think its time to worry about debt.

Our kids will pay for it with poor schools, and inadequate health care at the front end, high tuition and concomitant high debt when they get out of college.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-30   8:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Badeye (#26)

...(eyes rolling)

I would be happy to help you raise the money to get that fixed.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-30   8:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#27)

There is a time to borrow, and a time to pay back - the Bush tax cuts left us borrowing when we should have been paying down debt.

Why are you a collectivist that believes that people who earn money don't deserve the fruits of their labor.

Do you admire Mao and Stalin? Seriously do you?

You don't represent the working people. You represent California millionaires. You don't understand the working people of this country.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   8:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lucysmom (#27)

Our kids will pay for it with poor schools, and inadequate health care at the front end, high tuition and concomitant high debt when they get out of college.

Education is a state issue not federal. Do you acknowledge that? Or do you support usurpers?

Why are you complaining about college debt? You are in love with debt.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   8:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#29)

Why are you a collectivist that believes that people who earn money don't deserve the fruits of their labor.

Why are you a deadbeat who believes that people shouldn't pay their debts?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-30   9:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#30)

Education is a state issue not federal.

This is the only industrialized nation on the planet without a coherent national education policy. If we asked you for one, it would be pledge and prayer...repeat as necessary.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-30   9:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lucysmom (#28)

I would be happy to help you raise the money to get that fixed.

Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid...not mattter how much you spend.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-30   9:21:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#30)

Education is a state issue not federal. Do you acknowledge that? Or do you support usurpers?

If the federal government continues to reduce the money it sends to the sates, the states will have less money to go around. For instance, taxes in Texas account for only 43% of state receipts, the federal government supplies 37%.

Why are you complaining about college debt? You are in love with debt.

I'm not complaining, I'm stating a reality that is the less money the state has, the less money it has to spend on education; the difference in higher education is made up in higher tuition, and fewer grants. The result is that fewer of "our" kids go to college, or more kids start their adult life with high debt to pay off. If you give a damn about "our" kids, then you should give a damn about that.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-30   9:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#32)

This is the only industrialized nation on the planet without a coherent national education policy.

If we don't change that, we will either be left behind, or need to rely on immigrants educated by their home countries to do our doctoring, research, engineering, and all that other stuff that once made us great.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-30   9:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Thunderbird (#33)

Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid...not mattter how much you spend.

Ha

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-30   9:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: lucysmom (#34)

If the federal government continues to reduce the money it sends to the sates, the states will have less money to go around. For instance, taxes in Texas account for only 43% of state receipts, the federal government supplies 37%.

That isn't an answer to the question. That is spin for higher taxes.

Does the federal government have a constitutional role in education. Yes or no will suffice.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#32)

This is the only industrialized nation on the planet without a coherent national education policy.

Hmm. Only the richest nation has that. Interesting.

So does the federal government have a constitutional role in education? Be honest please.

What would be the lawful way for the feds to have a role in education? The constitution provides a legal means for the feds to be involved in education. Ever heard of a constitutional amendment? Apparently the people don't want that or they would have amended the constitution.

From your words it is obvious the you support usurping the constitution if it fits your agenda.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: lucysmom (#35)

If we don't change that, we will either be left behind, or need to rely on immigrants educated by their home countries to do our doctoring, research, engineering, and all that other stuff that once made us great.

Bullshit. Since the feds got involved education has gotten worse.

More collectivist crap. I am an individual with individual rights. I'm not part of the collective. You would probably fit in with the rulers of China.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#31)

Why are you a collectivist that believes that people who earn money don't deserve the fruits of their labor.

Why are you a deadbeat who believes that people shouldn't pay their debts?

Pretend debts. The debt is Obamas personally. Chain him up until he works it off like a slave.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#37)

Does the federal government have a constitutional role in education. Yes or no will suffice.

Yes

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-30   10:27:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: mininggold (#41)

Does the federal government have a constitutional role in education. Yes or no will suffice.

Yes

Liar.

The powers that the feds have are enumerated. Show me them. You can't because you lie regularly.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#42) (Edited)

The powers that the feds have are enumerated. Show me them. You can't because you lie regularly.

Actually the only proven lies here are from you, but then you bordlines love to lie and do your patented splitting.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-30   10:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#37)

That is spin for higher taxes.

Are you part of this country or not?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-30   10:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: mininggold (#43)

I'm still waiting for where you find authorization in the constitution.

Is it in the interstate commerce clause? lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: lucysmom (#44)

I am an indivudual that resides in the United States. That doesn't mean I am like a worker bee for them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#45)

I'm still waiting for where you find authorization in the constitution.

Is it in the interstate commerce clause? lol

It provides a climate in which the pursuit of education can occur.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-30   10:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mininggold (#47)

Can you make your point in non kook speak?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: A K A Stone (#39)

Bullshit. Since the feds got involved education has gotten worse.

Prove it.

I'm not part of the collective.

Then what in the world are you doing on the internet?

You would probably fit in with the rulers of China.

Yeah, I'm sure you've noticed how I keep my mouth shut and go along to get along.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-30   10:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: lucysmom (#49)

You tell me to prove education is getting worse. I'm not going to waste my time looking it up I know it is true.

But I will ask you this. Is is your position that education is getting better? That our schools improving and turning out smarter people? That has to be your position if I am wrong.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: lucysmom (#49)

I'm not part of the collective.

Then what in the world are you doing on the internet?

So if we are on the internet we have to be part of some collective and follow their orders? That sounds...well....kooky.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: lucysmom (#49)

You would probably fit in with the rulers of China.

Yeah, I'm sure you've noticed how I keep my mouth shut and go along to get along.

You wouldn't need to open your mouth and argue. They already agree with you and kill people who don't.

But I will give you credit on your wit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#48)

Can you make your point in non kook speak?

The constitution is kook speak to you? Or does it allow the pursuit of happiness and provide for tha insurance of same?

You are on a roll here today. But just don't let any future employer find out.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-30   10:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: mininggold (#53)

The constitution is kook speak to you? Or does it allow the pursuit of happiness and provide for tha insurance of same?

So the phrase "pursuit of happiness" found in the Declaration of Independence, not the constitution. That is the constitutional authorization for the feds to be involved in education.

Don't you think that is a bit of a stretch? I was going to mention stupid pills but I won't this time. Maybe it is because you didn't pay attention in school.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-30   10:50:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#50)

You tell me to prove education is getting worse. I'm not going to waste my time looking it up I know it is true.

You can't prove it without looking it up which translates to you ain't got no facts, just a FEELING.

But I will ask you this. Is is your position that education is getting better? That our schools improving and turning out smarter people? That has to be your position if I am wrong.

I went to school when California's school system was world class. The quality of education in the state is now mixed. Schools in wealthier districts are partly funded by private foundations established for the benefit of a specific school. You could say that those schools are semi-privatized. Schools in less wealthy communities have to get by on what they receive from the state.

What that means is some students in public schools get an excellent education while others do not.

"Smarter" is a function of genetics.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-30   10:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#54)

So the phrase "pursuit of happiness" found in the Declaration of Independence, not the constitution. That is the constitutional authorization for the feds to be involved in education.

Don't you think that is a bit of a stretch? I was going to mention stupid pills but I won't this time. Maybe it is because you didn't pay attention in school.

I prefer each state pay for their own school programs so we from the richer states an make fun of those who graduate from those run by the poor states.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-30   10:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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