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Title: Treasuries Join Stocks Dropping in Markets Overwhelmed by U.S. Debt Debate
Source: Bloomberg
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011- ... helmed-by-u-s-debt-debate.html
Published: Jul 28, 2011
Author: Bloomberg
Post Date: 2011-07-28 08:24:19 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 24884
Comments: 56

Stocks and Treasuries are moving in tandem twice as often as they normally do, a sign investors are growing convinced the U.S. will lose its AAA credit rating and that an impasse among lawmakers may spur losses in both markets.

The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index has risen or fallen together with 10-year Treasury notes 80 percent of the time in the last 10 days, compared with the average since 2000 of 41 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The benchmark index for American shares lost 2 percent yesterday, the most since June 1, and the 10-year bond fell, driving its yield up three basis points to 2.98 percent.

Equities and government bonds are reversing their historical relationship because a downgrade and the possibility of default by the U.S. government would put principal payments at risk and curb economic growth that has helped send the S&P 500 up 93 percent since March 2009. Conviction that lawmakers will fail sent rates on bills due next month to the highest level since March 31, data compiled by Bloomberg show.

“The politicians should learn from this that they shouldn’t wait until we have our backs against the wall,” Donald Selkin, New York-based chief market strategist at National Securities Corp., said in a telephone interview. Selkin, a 35-year Wall Street veteran, helps manage about $3 billion. “It’s very irresponsible because it can affect the economy and jobs. They’re putting us in a situation where we could have another financial meltdown.”

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#11. To: go65 (#0)

Obama's official position on raising debt ceilings

I rise today to talk about America's debt problem.

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies.

Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is "trillion'' with a "T.'' That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President's budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion...

Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here.'' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-28   11:00:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: no gnu taxes (#11)

Obama's official position on raising debt ceilings

the country's finances were a bit different in 2006. If Bush hadn't slashed taxes in 01 and 03, spent a trillion on wars without paying for them, and not enacted Medicare Part D, again without paying for it, the debt ceiling wouldn't be much of an issues now.

go65  posted on  2011-07-28   11:20:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: go65 (#17)

If Bush hadn't slashed taxes in 01 and 03

Boosted the economy and Obama loves it as he has left them in place!!

Medicare Part D

And the Democrats problem with it is that not enough money was being spent.

So we've still got Medicare reform and the tax cuts. Nothing has changed. You people and your Kenyan leader are full of shit.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-28   11:28:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: no gnu taxes (#22)

And the Democrats problem with it is that not enough money was being spent.

Yea so?

In your feeble mind is that a Get Out Of Jail Free Card for the GOP spending that money?

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:41:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war, badeye (#26)

You corrected me the other day. I was wrong when I said Badeye only used your name once. Sorry for the mistake.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-28   14:26:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#33)

No worries.

Have a good day.

Regards,
The Mean Ugly DwarF

war  posted on  2011-07-28   14:39:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war (#35)

Regards, The Mean Ugly DwarF

Can we call you MUD from now on? The other guy who used that name seems to have been vaporized.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-28   14:43:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#38. To: Skip Intro (#36)

Yeah, where did that loon go?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-28 14:48:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Skip Intro (#36)

Funny...good catch...

Wonder what did happen to Mudd...

war  posted on  2011-07-28 14:48:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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