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Title: Boehner breaks off debt talks
Source: WTOPNews
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jul 22, 2011
Author: Mark Knoller
Post Date: 2011-07-22 18:08:18 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 59123
Comments: 113

Speaker Boehner breaking off talks with Pres Obama. House leaders will negotiate with Senate leaders instead.

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#4. To: go65 (#0) (Edited)

Obama has greatly oversold the consequences of not raising the debt ceiling.

August 2nd is going to come and go and very few of us will notice anything different.

During the government shut down in the 1990s I didn't know a single person who was impacted at all. Not one.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-22   18:54:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler (#4)

Obama has greatly oversold the consequences of not raising the debt ceiling.

August 2nd is going to come and go and very few of us will notice anything different.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and every financial organization greatly disagrees, I guess they are all morons.

During the government shut down in the 1990s I didn't know a single person who was impacted at all. Not one.

This isn't a government shut-down.

go65  posted on  2011-07-22   20:32:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: go65 (#8)

This isn't a government shut-down.

Of course it is. If they can't borrow more money, "non-essential" portions of the government will have to shut down. Yahoo.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-23   19:24:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: jwpegler (#87)

Of course it is. If they can't borrow more money, "non-essential" portions of the government will have to shut down. Yahoo.

a lot more than non-essential operations will shut down - unless you don't consider things like the FAA, border security, food inspections, and so on "essential"

go65  posted on  2011-07-23   22:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: go65 (#95)

unless you don't consider things like the FAA, border security, food inspections, and so on "essential"

He doesn't. You could also add the air traffic controllers, FDA, OSHA, the EPA, National Parks, Post Office, and on and on.

To him the only legitimate function of the Federal Government is to make the rich richer.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-23   22:48:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Skip Intro, go65, capitalist eric (#96) (Edited)

unless you don't consider things like the FAA, border security, food inspections, and so on "essential"

He doesn't. You could also add the air traffic controllers, FDA, OSHA, the EPA, National Parks, Post Office, and on and on.

The government will collect $179 billion in taxes in August. Interest on the debt, Social Security, Medicare, and military salaries add up to $143 billion. That's $36 left for other things.

Here's how to make that $36 billion larger: 25% of people over 65 have pensions or incomes from annuities or property that classifies them as "wealthy". Remove these freeloaders from Social Security and Medicare and you'd have more more to spend on "essential" things.

Then get rid of all government subsidies for energy, agriculture, NPR, NEA, etc. and crazy "research" programs like studying hookers in China and the size of gay men's penises and you'd have a bunch of additional money.

Then sell the Post Office, Amtrak, and other services that could be better provided by business and you'd have even more money.

It's pretty darn simple to cut enough spending to close the deficit.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-24   14:35:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: jwpegler (#101)

Remove these freeloaders from Social Security and Medicare and you'd have more more to spend on "essential" things.

Those "wealthy" people had their money stolen from them during their working years for these programs just like everyone else, with the same promise that they would start getting their money back when they turned 65. Why should they have their assets stolen? They did nothing wrong.

It's bad enough that they're being taxed on money that was already taxed once before it was collected from them.

I thought it was only the evil left that branded people as "wealthy" so as to confiscate their wealth. I see that rock-ribbed conservatives are no different.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-24   15:21:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Skip Intro (#103) (Edited)

Why should they have their assets stolen?

The government steals money every day. It's called taxation.

Why should a working family struggling in a bad economic be forced to pay for some well to do greedy geezer lounging around the golf course???

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-24   15:50:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#109. To: jwpegler (#108)

Why should a working family struggling in a bad economic be forced to pay for some well to do greedy geezer lounging around the golf course???

What is it that makes the geezer "greedy"? That he expects the government to keep it's word?

But what's the problem anyway? If the geezer is really loaded he'll end up paying 50% of his SS take back to the government as taxes.

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