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To: go65 (#0) (Edited) Obama has greatly oversold the consequences of not raising the debt ceiling. August 2nd is going to come and go and very few of us will notice anything different. During the government shut down in the 1990s I didn't know a single person who was impacted at all. Not one. jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-22   18:54:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: jwpegler (#4) Obama has greatly oversold the consequences of not raising the debt ceiling. August 2nd is going to come and go and very few of us will notice anything different. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and every financial organization greatly disagrees, I guess they are all morons. During the government shut down in the 1990s I didn't know a single person who was impacted at all. Not one. This isn't a government shut-down. go65  posted on  2011-07-22   20:32:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #87. To: go65 (#8) This isn't a government shut-down. Of course it is. If they can't borrow more money, "non-essential" portions of the government will have to shut down. Yahoo. jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-23   19:24:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #95. To: jwpegler (#87) Of course it is. If they can't borrow more money, "non-essential" portions of the government will have to shut down. Yahoo. a lot more than non-essential operations will shut down - unless you don't consider things like the FAA, border security, food inspections, and so on "essential" go65  posted on  2011-07-23   22:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #96. To: go65 (#95) unless you don't consider things like the FAA, border security, food inspections, and so on "essential" He doesn't. You could also add the air traffic controllers, FDA, OSHA, the EPA, National Parks, Post Office, and on and on. To him the only legitimate function of the Federal Government is to make the rich richer. Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-23   22:48:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #101. To: Skip Intro, go65, capitalist eric (#96) (Edited) unless you don't consider things like the FAA, border security, food inspections, and so on "essential" He doesn't. You could also add the air traffic controllers, FDA, OSHA, the EPA, National Parks, Post Office, and on and on. The government will collect $179 billion in taxes in August. Interest on the debt, Social Security, Medicare, and military salaries add up to $143 billion. That's $36 left for other things. Here's how to make that $36 billion larger: 25% of people over 65 have pensions or incomes from annuities or property that classifies them as "wealthy". Remove these freeloaders from Social Security and Medicare and you'd have more more to spend on "essential" things. Then get rid of all government subsidies for energy, agriculture, NPR, NEA, etc. and crazy "research" programs like studying hookers in China and the size of gay men's penises and you'd have a bunch of additional money. Then sell the Post Office, Amtrak, and other services that could be better provided by business and you'd have even more money. It's pretty darn simple to cut enough spending to close the deficit. jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-24   14:35:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 101. #102. To: jwpegler (#101) Then sell the Post Office, Amtrak, and other services that could be better provided by business and you'd have even more money. The Post Office entity is empowered by the constitution. But you can blame Nixon for restructuring it under the corporate model and thereby creating the problems it has today. mininggold  posted on  2011-07-24 15:01:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #103. To: jwpegler (#101) Remove these freeloaders from Social Security and Medicare and you'd have more more to spend on "essential" things. Those "wealthy" people had their money stolen from them during their working years for these programs just like everyone else, with the same promise that they would start getting their money back when they turned 65. Why should they have their assets stolen? They did nothing wrong. It's bad enough that they're being taxed on money that was already taxed once before it was collected from them. I thought it was only the evil left that branded people as "wealthy" so as to confiscate their wealth. I see that rock-ribbed conservatives are no different. Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-24 15:21:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #104. To: jwpegler (#101) Then sell the Post Office, Amtrak, and other services that could be better provided by business and you'd have even more money. Wasn't Amtrak established because the private sector didn't want to bother with that side of the business at all? lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-24 15:21:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #105. To: jwpegler (#101) Here's how to make that $36 billion larger: 25% of people over 65 have pensions or incomes from annuities or property that classifies them as "wealthy". Remove these freeloaders from Social Security and Medicare and you'd have more more to spend on "essential" things. . So you support feral goobermental theft of AMERICAN'S assets? So, IF the gooberment TAKES money from you your entire working life, AND you manage to end up NOT on "assistance", then the gooberment can just KEEP your money because you are too "rich"? So then they can use YOUR money to pay "assistance" to those who "need" it? Who gets to say who is and who is not "wealthy"? YOU? The feral gooberment? Don't you see this is an issue designed to fracture the American population along generational lines? I totally agree that SS is un-Constitutional, but ... it EXISTS. Many of us have lived under this noxious system for ALL of our working lives. But hey FUCK us right? (Btw I don't get ANY sort of goobermental "assistance", AND I'm NOT "wealthy".) In fact I am eligible to apply for alot of "programs' but I'd rather die than take it. But, if you want to get technical, SS does owe me the money that they stole from me ALL of my working life, plus interest, plus the inflation. That's what they owe EVERYBODY whose money they stole by force. We ought to change this ponzi scheme for the people younger than us, but WE older Americans have paided SS taxes, every fucking paycheck of our lives, ALL of OUR LIVES. So .... then you say ... FUCK the "25% of people over 65", FUCK the American people eh? As if it'll make a bit of difference. In case you hadn't noticed the messiah 'king" obammy and his Chi-town gang of commies have started a real depression and are destroying OUR economy as we speak. The odds are very low that SS is going to be there for ANYBODY at this rate. I sure have never counted on it. But, that does NOT mean that it's OK to steal YEARS of payments from innocent people. I would cut spending the day I arrived as president, it would be EASY. You just need to know how to say NO. Which politicians are incapable of doing. I'M not a politician. Mad Dog  posted on  2011-07-24 15:29:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #112. To: jwpegler (#101) That's $36 left for other things. Right, or about $120-130 billion LESS then then the spending CONGRESS appropriated. You keep ignoring that. Here's how to make that $36 billion larger: 25% of people over 65 have pensions or incomes from annuities or property that classifies them as "wealthy". Remove these freeloaders from Social Security and Medicare and you'd have more more to spend on "essential" things. Didn't those "free loaders" pay into the system? Then get rid of all government subsidies for energy, agriculture, NPR, NEA, etc. and crazy "research" programs like studying hookers in China and the size of gay men's penises and you'd have a bunch of additional money. Nope, the Republicans refuse to raise revenue by cutting tax credits, and the programs you list don't add up to a hill of beans. You want to keep denying it, but come 8/2 and no extension of the cap - the government will be shutting down things like the FAA, Department of Veterans affairs, most non-essential military spending, border security, food/mine inspections, and so on. Meanwhile, the stock market will tank, hundreds of thousands of jobs will be at risk, and borrowing costs will sky-rocket while we go into a recession. But hey, you've told us you won't notice any of this, so who cares, right? go65  posted on  2011-07-24 22:22:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 101. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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