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Title: George Orwell (author of '1984') Was a Socialist
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thinkprogress.org
URL Source: http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2 ... george-orwell-was-a-socialist/
Published: Mar 01, 2010
Author: Matthew Yglesias
Post Date: 2011-07-22 09:08:33 by Godwinson
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Views: 13775
Comments: 27
George Orwell Was a Socialist By Matthew Yglesias on Mar 1, 2010 at 3:58 pm A lot of American right-wingers seem to have gotten it into their heads that George Orwell would have loved the idea of invading Iraq, which seems doubtful to me but at least possible, but Hendrick Hetzberg observes that Newt Gingrich has further extrapolated from this the idea that Orwell would have hated socialized medicine. Here’s Gingrich on Orwell on socialism: [The message of 1984 is] that centralized planning inherently leads to dictatorship, which is why having a secular socialist machine try to impose government-run health care in this country is such a significant step away from freedom and away from liberty, and towards a government-dominated society. And here’s Orwell on socialism from “Why I Joined the Independent Labour Party”: I have got to struggle against that, just as I have got to struggle against castor oil, rubber truncheons and concentration camps. And the only regime which, in the long run, will dare to permit freedom of speech is a Socialist regime. If Fascism triumphs I am finished as a writer — that is to say, finished in my only effective capacity. That of itself would be a sufficient reason for joining a Socialist party. I have put the personal aspect first, but obviously it is not the only one. It is not possible for any thinking person to live in such a society as our own without wanting to change it. For perhaps ten years past I have had some grasp of the real nature of capitalist society. I have seen British imperialism at work in Burma, and I have seen something of the effects of poverty and unemployment in Britain. In so far as I have struggle against the system, it has been mainly by writing books which I hoped would influence the reading public. I shall continue to do that, of course, but at a moment like the present writing books is not enough. The tempo of events is quickening; the dangers which once seemed a generation distant are staring us in the face. One has got to be actively a Socialist, not merely sympathetic to Socialism, or one plays into the hands of our always-active enemies. In “Toward European Unity”, written after the war, he explained that “a Socialist United States of Europe seems to me the only worth-while political objective today."
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#2. To: Godwinson (#0)
Born May 18, 1981 Matthew Yglesias (pronounced /hÈalejsiYs/; born May 18, 1981) is a U.S. political blogger and a prominent voice in the American liberal blogosphere. Pretty much sums up your thread, gobsheit. But then again, being a MSM-lackey, you report what you think, which never happens to align with reality. Thanks for playing! LOL.
Are you a member of the right's propaganda generating elite, or have you swallowed the message whole? Either way your posts lack the slightest hint of independent thought.
So did you create your response yourself or copy it?
Do you work at being a brain-dead bimbo, or does it just come naturally?
Comment from your unsourced source: Orwell was anti-Stalinist, not anti-socialist. Stalinism was not socialism, it was state capitalism. You appear to have limited knowledge of what Socialism is, so you should do a little reading the next time before you decide to type a wall of text. You should read "Homage To Caledonia" - Where he describes the Spanish Anarchist society of the 30s as "Socialism done right" - Orwell simply advocated "Socialism from below" not "from above", which quickly mutates into degenerated workers states and authoritarianism.
Me: Do you work at being a brain-dead bimbo, or does it just come naturally? loonymom/ming: Oh my, is that the best you can do? Tell me again, which of us is brain-dead? That would be you. Let me give you an example: Orwell was anti-Stalinist, not anti-socialist. Stalinism was not socialism, it was state capitalism. You appear to have limited knowledge of what Socialism is, so you should do a little reading the next time before you decide to type a wall of text. What the HELL are you talking about, you silly b!tch? Talk about BRAIN-DEAD! You should really consider upping your meds...
#17. To: Capitalist Eric (#14)
Comment from your unsourced source: Orwell was anti-Stalinist, not anti-socialist. Stalinism was not socialism, it was state capitalism. You appear to have limited knowledge of what Socialism is, so you should do a little reading the next time before you decide to type a wall of text. What the HELL are you talking about, you silly b!tch? Talk about BRAIN-DEAD! I'm not surprised you don't "get it". Ignorance on your part does not equal "silly b!tch" on my part.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search Matthew Yglesias
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#4. To: Capitalist Eric (#2)
But then again, being a MSM-lackey, you report what you think, which never happens to align with reality. Thanks for playing! LOL.
#5. To: lucysmom (#4)
Either way your posts lack the slightest hint of independent thought.
#7. To: Capitalist Eric (#5)
#9. To: lucysmom (#7)
So did you create your response yourself or copy it?
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#14. To: lucysmom (#11)
Capitalist Eric (#9)
Comment from your unsourced source:
Replies to Comment # 14. Let me give you an example:
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