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Title: The Neo-Con Aftermath
Source: Falls Church News Press
URL Source: http://www.fcnp.com/commentary/nati ... 714-the-neo-con-aftermath.html
Published: Jul 21, 2011
Author: Helen Thomas
Post Date: 2011-07-21 20:51:57 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 4089
Comments: 15

Where are the neo-conservatives who brought on this economic and political mess?

They are evidently hiding in their think tanks or taking asylum in academia. Anyway, they are in safe havens, satisfied that they achieved their stated goals of regime change by toppling their nemesis - Saddam Hussein. Though none of those neo-cons wore the country's uniform, they pushed others to get into the fight.

It was the neo-cons who decided America should have an empire in the 21st century. Their design for the world has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths - not to mention the wounded and displaced.

Many of the neo-cons may have been kicked out of top government positions, but their influence in former President George W. Bush's administration was enormous. They convinced Bush of the need for torture. Unfortunately, President Barack Obama has not ended the unlawful practice.

It's not surprising that the neo-con aspiration to get Saddam coincided with Israel's purpose, or that Saddam was accused of holding weapons of mass destruction. Iraq had none. Hans Blix, the former head of the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission, begged Bush to let him go into Iraq to prove Iraq had no such lethal weapons. Bush refused. He wanted to invade Iraq.

Bush once told an interviewer that only war presidents are remembered in history. He will go down in history all right. Ironically, Bush and his cohorts - and the world in fact - know that only Israel had a nuclear arsenal in the Middle East. Top American officials, from Obama on down, have lost their credibility by refusing to say that Israel is a nuclear power.

The next target for the neo-con empire builders is Iran, another major enemy of Israel. If Iran succeeds in developing a nuclear bomb, the United States is supposed to attack Iran. So far, Obama has resisted the neo-con orders, but who knows for how long.

Their agenda was laid out in Project for the New American Century. Their "Statement of Principles" promotes increasing military spending; modernizing our armed forces; strengthening ties to democratic allies to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values; promoting the causes of political and economic freedom abroad; and accepting responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, prosperity and principles. These are goals not easily won without war.

By the end of 2006, PNAC was "reduced to a voice-mail box and a ghostly website," with "a single employee" "left to wrap things up," according to the BBC News. In 2006, Gary Schmitt, former executive director of the PNAC, stated that PNAC had come to a natural end.

The PNAC was a platform for a new American colonialism - and the neo-cons continue to lobby in Congress. They also are welcomed on the pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post for their ultra-right points of view.

Others on the neo-con team include Donald Rumsfeld and Robert Kagan, both former Reaganites and Bush propagandists.

The neo-cons stated that the failure to depose Saddam would have resulted in a "decisive surrender in the international war on terrorism." They did not estimate the cost in American lives and money - and they probably didn't care.

Critics of the neo-cons have called them "chicken-hawks - men who have never seen the horror of war but are in love with the idea of war." They accuse the neo-cons of taking it a step further than the conservatives, who believe in maintaining a strong national defense. The neo-cons can only succeed in promoting their goals by blurring the lines between policing the world and maintain a strong national defense.

While many Republicans have begun to question the old neo-con foreign policy consensus that dominated Bush's GOP, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) is the new neo-con hopeful.

While the neo-cons have achieved some of their goals, they have betrayed the good will of Americans and the decency of the country. They should be ashamed!

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#1. To: harrowup (#0)

Critics of the neo-cons have called them "chicken-hawks - men who have never seen the horror of war but are in love with the idea of war." They accuse the neo-cons of taking it a step further than the conservatives, who believe in maintaining a strong national defense.

This is a fair summary of my views. Krauthammer is a neo-con.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-21   21:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0) (Edited)

Project for the New American Century

American colonialism

"chicken-hawks - men who have never seen the horror of war but are in love with the idea of war."

That moniker is retired, but the same crew are now "humanitarians" spreading democracy as neo-lib chickenhawks. Lieberman, Kerry, Obama, Hillary, McInsane, Lady Lindsey Graham, Rick Perry and Rubio. No matter what the party hacks call them they're globalist, liberal, oil&opium lovin, anti-American, warmonger, vultures.

It's all very profitable, so it's the base of the D&R crime family. It's the Military Industrial Complex, that Ike Eisenhower warned us about.

Keep voting D&R if you want the same ol', same ol'.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-21   22:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Many of the neo-cons may have been kicked out of top government positions, but their influence in former President George W. Bush's administration was enormous. They convinced Bush of the need for torture. Unfortunately, President Barack Obama has not ended the unlawful practice.

This is TOTAL UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT.

They weren't kicked out. They were elevated to loftier positions that SEEM benign.

Take Paul Wolfowitz, the former war strategist of the Iraqi War Plan for GW Bush in 2002 as one example. He was "KICKED UPSTAIRS" from undersecretary of defense to President of the World Bank. He later resigned for his own improprieties for hiring whores as secretaries for getting a few blowjobs.

Oh yes, the creme de la creme, Michael Chertoff whos is now retired and operating his own Chertoff Consultants making more money than ANYONE while collecting his US government pension.

Oh yes, both Wolfowitz and Chertoff are Jews; both are dual US-Israeli citizens; both had HIGH US government offices and both were treacherous to US national security while designing methods that were detrimental to the US in every way shape and form.

Yet, each live life as though they are GODS among men today.

The article is a fucking lie.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-21   22:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#3)

This is TOTAL UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT.

They weren't kicked out.

Powell, Rumsfeld...

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-21   22:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

I just cited two RICH MEN COLLECTING US GOVERNMENT PENSIONS FOR A JOB WELL DONE.

One was an architect of the Iraqi War Plans. The other designed the US Patriot Act. Both WERE later KICKED UPSTAIRS not KICKED OUT as the FUCKING ARTICLE SUGGESTS.

BOTH WERE GODDAMED US-ISRAELI DUAL CITIZENS that have left America in shambles because of GWBush.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-21   23:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#5)

The article doesn't say all. It doesn't say most.

It says "Many of the..."

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-21   23:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)

And no citations as I have performed. Her article is BASELESS and a GODDAMNED LIE. The article is TRASH MATERIAL from Helen Thomas. Fuck her and the GODDAMED, STAINLESS STEEL GURNEY she shall have on her last sleigh ride on the surface of this planet.

She is a political hack; she is a talking-head; she is nothing more than a political old fartbag. Her articles don't revel any fact other than baseless opinion without citation of any real elements concerning the current problems of the US programs within the nation and around the world.

FUCK HER.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-21   23:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred RED Mertz (#1) (Edited)

Fred RED AYERABID Mertz

This is a fair summary of my views.

The New Theocracy (( neocoms ))

For the last several years (during the Bush Administration) we have been treated to a newly coined word in the political lexicon, to wit: Neoconservative (neocon). The word has been used to describe those in both the political arena and society as a whole who have previously adhered to a leftist (liberal?) oriented political philosophy but who have undergone an epiphany of sorts and now support a more conservative political philosophy. These would include ›•Ÿ™”‘£ who emerged from the "academic" system as a dedicated Marxist but made the political journey through conservativism to libertarianism. Another wag defines "neocon" as a liberal who has been mugged by reality. Examples of this designation would include such bureaucrats as Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle and academics such as David Horowitz and Victor Davis Hanson. With the recent capture of the legislative branch of the U.S. government and the distinct possibility of the capture as well of the executive branch in 2008 by the Democratic Party the likelihood of a new political animal assuming power must be addressed. The "Neocoms". They are already deeply entrenched in academia and thus the mainstream media due to the influence of the major journalism schools. It is described by David Horowitz as a religious movement.

The "Neocoms".

They are already deeply entrenched in academia and thus the mainstream media due to the influence of the major journalism schools.

It is described by David Horowitz as a religious movement ...

The Neo-communist left opposes America’s commitment to freedom and capitalism domestically as well as supporting (sometimes “critically”) America’s declared external enemies not because of what America does, but because of what they think America is.

The Neo-communist left is impervious to facts because it is a political messianism, in essence a religious movement.

Its delusions of social redemption are fed on a rich diet of anti-American myths. These myths were once generated in institutions funded by the Communist Party and other marginal radical sects. But that has all changed with the long march of the left during the last thirty years through America’s institutions of higher learning.

The Neo-communist left is now entrenched on the faculties of America’s elite universities, where it is a “hegemonic” force.

It has converted America’s elite universities into a political base for its radical and anti-American agendas. *

In the present war with radical Islam ... [which the Neocoms either ignore or tacitly support] --- this poses a problem Americans can continue to ignore only at their own peril, and which sooner or later they must address.

http://fightingintheshade.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={AD729DCC-EF8C-4BEC-A8B0- B459457A615D}

IT could be a dog carried virus !

red fred is a big fan of democracy now !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-07-21   23:58:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BorisY, *Arab Spring Jihad*, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#8) (Edited)

(neocons) have previously adhered to a leftist (liberal?) oriented political philosophy but who have undergone an epiphany of sorts and now support (the New World Order)

You're a neo-lib now Boris, bow down and lick your commander Barry O's boots, or whatever.

You was against al-queada, before you wuz fer em!

You're on an Arab Spring Jihad.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-22   0:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#9)

Arab Spring Jihad.

Republicans in egypt - libya !

What would you know out there talking on the farrakhan mother space ship !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-07-22   0:54:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

This is a fair summary of my views. Krauthammer is a neo-con.

Labels don't help when discussing a person's character; I like Krauthammer and don't like Rumsfeld, Chertoff or any of the Bush National Security team which is why I departed government service early in 2001 after tilting at windmills.

They gave Bush bad advice.

Helen is a bit overly dramatic and illogical in her accusations, however.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-22   2:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Brian S (#0)

They are evidently hiding in their think tanks or taking asylum in academia. Anyway, they are in safe havens, satisfied that they achieved their stated goals of regime change by toppling their nemesis - Saddam Hussein.

BullBush! Their REAL nemisis were conservatives,and their goal was to subvert the conservative movement so their Dim brothers could take over and no conservative voices would be heard.

The US invaded Iraq in order to protect the Sauds,NOT the Israelis,and to boost up sagging poll numbers with the mid-term elections coming up. Nothing boosts a presidents popularity like a good shooting war because nobody can criticize him without being called unpatriotic and a traitor.

The next target for the neo-con empire builders is Iran, another major enemy of Israel.

Once again I am calling BullBarack. The reason they are focusing no Iran has NOTHING to do with Israel,although Isreal is the reason given in order to eliminate dissent from the VERY powerful Jewish lobby in the US and other western countries. Iran isn't about to attack Israel with nukes because they know the Jews would nuke them until they glow in the dark if they tried. All that "nuke the Jews!" nonsense from the leadership is to appease the ignorant masses,and is for local political purposes. It helps them stay in power.

Iran is no danger whatsoever to Israel. She IS a VERY big danger to Saudi Arabia,though. The Saud Royal Family have dreams of a united Arabia Kingdom under THEM,and the Iranians are their only real competition due to the number of religious nutcases in power there.

Their agenda was laid out in Project for the New American Century. Their "Statement of Principles" promotes increasing military spending; modernizing our armed forces; strengthening ties to democratic allies to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values; promoting the causes of political and economic freedom abroad;

ROFLMAO! Anybody that believes that nonsese is too stupid to live. Their goal is "The New World Order/The Third Way",and political and economic freedom to them is like Kryptonite to Superman. They are working for nothing less than a global fascist government ran along corporate lines with a corporate board running it all. Think of the entire world as a "Company Town" with them owning the company.

I coined the phrase "Corporate Communism" to describe this,but it is really nothing more than a return to the feudal system,which was the father of fascism.

By the end of 2006, PNAC was "reduced to a voice-mail box and a ghostly website," with "a single employee" "left to wrap things up," according to the BBC News.

That's because with presidential candidates like Bush,Gore,Kerry,McLunatic,and Obama,they were successful at reaching their goal of destroying conservative influences in govenrment,and could close their doors. Their job was done.

The PNAC was a platform for a new American colonialism - and the neo-cons continue to lobby in Congress. They also are welcomed on the pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post for their ultra-right points of view.

Yeah,cause the NYT and the WP are well-known right-wing media outlets,huh?

Helen Thomas is either senile or working for global fascism by writing this disinformation piece. Maybe both.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-22   10:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

Krauthammer is a neo-con.

Which is nothing more than a communist that has evolved into a fascist.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-22   10:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#3)

Take Paul Wolfowitz, the former war strategist of the Iraqi War Plan for GW Bush in 2002 as one example. He was "KICKED UPSTAIRS" from undersecretary of defense to President of the World Bank. He later resigned for his own improprieties for hiring whores as secretaries for getting a few blowjobs.

He would have been golden if it had been male whores he hired,but the neo-con elites ain't standing for none of that heterosexual stuff!

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-22   10:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#5)

BOTH WERE GODDAMED US-ISRAELI DUAL CITIZENS that have left America in shambles because of GWBush.

True,but don't make the mistake of believing they did any of this for Israel. They are only Jews/Israeli citizens for the protection it gives them from criticism and arrest.

Make no mistake about it,they would throw Israel under the bus just as quickly as they did America if it benefiting them personally to do so.

The REALITY is they are about as Jewish as the Pope.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-22   10:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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