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Title: Repeal Question On Ohio's Union Law Makes November Ballot
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic ... /07/18/national/a121608D24.DTL
Published: Jul 21, 2011
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2011-07-21 13:06:06 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 9831
Comments: 31

(07-21) 09:18 PDT Columbus, Ohio (AP) --

Ohio voters will have the chance this November to decide whether the state's contentious new collective bargaining law should be repealed.

The state's elections chief said Thursday that opponents had gathered enough valid signatures to put the question before voters. The measure is now suspended from taking effect until voters have their say.

The law signed by Ohio Gov. John Kasich in late March bans public employee strikes and restricts collective bargaining rights for more than 350,000 teachers, police officers and other public workers. While unions can continue to negotiate wages, they cannot bargain on health care, sick time or pension benefits.

The group We Are Ohio delivered more than 1.3 million signatures to Secretary of State Jon Husted, though the opponents needed roughly 231,000 valid signatures to get the question on the ballot.

The measure was approved by the Republican-controlled state Legislature in March amid shouts and jeers from protesters in each chamber. But the overall response by protesters in the Rust Belt state, despite its long union tradition among steel and auto workers, paled in comparison to Wisconsin, where protests topped more than 70,000 people. Ohio's largest Statehouse demonstrations on the measure drew about 8,500 people.

That difference has been attributed to Madison's labor legacy and the proximity of the populous University of Wisconsin campus to the state capital.

The fallout from each state's bitter fights over collective bargaining restrictions have also differed.

Unlike in Wisconsin, Ohio voters cannot recall state lawmakers. Instead, opponents of the Ohio law are pushing for its repeal through a referendum.

Nine state senators — six Republicans and three Democrats — are facing recall elections in Wisconsin, where GOP Gov. Scott Walker's collective bargaining law eventually survived a court challenge and took effect.

The We Are Ohio campaign says 10,000 volunteers and some paid workers circulated petitions to get the referendum before voters. The coalition of labor groups and others contends the law is an unfair attack on workers.

Kasich, a first-term governor, and his GOP colleagues argue the legislation will help city officials, school superintendents and others better control their costs at a time when they, too, are feeling budget woes.

Groups on both sides of the debate have been raising money in anticipation of the tough fight over the Ohio law in November.

Kasich has said he plans to play a visible role in defending the law. So far, he has directed his supporters to a website for Building a Better Ohio, a group that wants to keep the new law in place.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Of course it got on the ballot because there are enough reactionary unionists in Ohio to do so.

The big question is whether there are enough people with suicidal tendencies in Ohio to pass it.

I will go out on a limb and say no.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-21   16:21:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: jwpegler (#1)

Of course it got on the ballot because there are enough reactionary unionists in Ohio to do so.

The big question is whether there are enough people with suicidal tendencies in Ohio to pass it.

I will go out on a limb and say no.

So far I haven't heard a single person criticize Kasich for what he did, so I say NO too..... (even though a CNN poll shows everybody here hates him now, LOL.....)

In fact the unemployment rate has been steadily going down since Kasich got elected.... so the only people who should be pissed off about that are the "PERMANENT" Welfare babies......

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-21   16:44:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: CZ82 (#2)

... so the only people who should be pissed off about that are the "PERMANENT" Welfare babies......

Why would permanent welfare babies care one way or another what rights unions have?

Are you carrying water for your masters in the class war CZ?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-22   12:30:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#10)

... so the only people who should be pissed off about that are the "PERMANENT" Welfare babies...... Why would permanent welfare babies care one way or another what rights unions have?

Are you carrying water for your masters in the class war CZ?

I was talking about the unemployment rate going down, not union rights.... (pissing off the Welfare babies).... Besides that there aren't that many union people in Ohio anymore, their masters have seen to that by phucking them in their contracts...... what 10-12% now...... used to be double that.....

I let the bedwetters carry the class warfare water for their masters, me I know who signs my paycheck.....

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-22   18:52:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: CZ82 (#13)

I let the bedwetters carry the class warfare water for their masters, me I know who signs my paycheck.....

Ahhh - so you're for sale.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-22   21:20:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lucysmom (#14)

Ahhh - so you're for sale.

When it comes to working to pay the bills for my family, yes.. aren't we all.... If you have the skills and know how to market yourself then you can earn top dollar, that's the way it is in a free market.....

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-23   7:45:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: CZ82 (#17)

When it comes to working to pay the bills for my family, yes.. aren't we all....

Taxes are the bill we get from government for services rendered.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-23   10:59:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#18)

Taxes are the bill we get from government for services rendered.

And we aren't getting shit for our tax money......

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-23   14:16:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: CZ82 (#19)

And we aren't getting shit for our tax money......

www.youtube.com/watch?fea...lpage&v=zKdfo68FSh0#t=86s

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-23   18:46:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lucysmom (#20)

And we aren't getting shit for our tax money......

www.youtube.com/watch?fea...lpage&v=zKdfo68FSh0#t=86s

So was that video only supposed to be 3 seconds long????

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-24   7:10:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: CZ82 (#21)

So was that video only supposed to be 3 seconds long????

?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-24   8:02:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom (#22)

So was that video only supposed to be 3 seconds long???? ?

That link you sent only played for 3 seconds, was it supposed to be longer???

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-24   8:06:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: CZ82 (#23)

That link you sent only played for 3 seconds, was it supposed to be longer???

The video is 1 minute, 27 seconds. The link works fine for me.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-24   9:12:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#24)

3 seconds here too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-24   10:15:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#25)

3 seconds here too.

Still get the long version on this end by clicking on the link.

try this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zKdfo68FSh0#t=86s

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-24   10:29:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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