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Title: Hanoi Jane Fonda: 'I Have Never Done Anything to Hurt My Country or the Men and Women Who Have Fought and Continue to Fight for Us'
Source: CNS News
URL Source: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article ... -i-have-never-done-anything-hu
Published: Jul 16, 2011
Author: Terence P. Jeffrey
Post Date: 2011-07-17 04:23:48 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: commie, traitor, Hanoi Jane
Views: 47920
Comments: 79

(CNSNews.com) - Actress Jane Fonda said in a statement posted on her website today that the QVC television channel cancelled an appearance they had scheduled with her today to promote her new book "Prime Time," blaming the cancellation on what she called "well funded and organized political extremist groups."

In the same statement Fonda said, "I have never done anything to hurt my country or the men and women who have fought and continue to fight for us."

In 1972, during the Vietnam War, Fonda took a two-week trip to North Vietnam, where she was photographed sitting on an antiaircraft gun that North Vietnamese forces otherwise used for shooting at American planes.

When she returned from her sojourn in Vietnam, as Time Magazine reported at the time, she accused U.S. forces of deliberately trying to bomb and destroy dikes, whose destruction could have caused the death of many civilians.

"The outcry was joined by Actress-Activist Jane Fonda," Time reported in its August 7, 1972 edition. "Returning from a two-week trip to Hanoi, where among other things she interviewed several American prisoners of war, she presented a 20-minute film of the visit at a New York press conference that purported to show several recent bomb craters in dikes near Nam Sach, 40 miles southeast of Hanoi, and further damage near the provincial capital of Nam Dinh.

"Hardly a dispassionate witness," Time continued, she said: 'I believe in my heart, profoundly, that the dikes are being bombed on purpose.' From firsthand observation and from pictures shown her by the North Vietnamese, she concluded: Not only the dikes are being bombed, but hydraulic systems, sluice gates, pumping stations and dams as well. The worst damage is done by bombs that fall on both sides of the dikes, causing deep fissures that weaken the base of the dikes.'"

A New York Times review of Fonda's 2005 memoir reported that Fonda apologized in the book for being photographed on the North Vietnamese antiaircraft gun.

"As she has before, Ms. Fonda apologizes for being photographed laughing and clapping while sitting on an antiaircraft gun in Hanoi," says the New York Times review. "(She writes that she absent-mindedly sat down in a moment of euphoria with her North Vietnamese hosts, and adds, 'That two-minute lapse of sanity will haunt me until the day I die.')"

In her statement today, Fonda said QVC had received calls criticizing her on her "opposition to the Vietnam War."

"I was to have been on QVC today to introduce my book, 'Prime Time,' about aging and the life cycle," Fonda said. "The network said they got a lot of calls yesterday criticizing me for my opposition to the Vietnam War and threatening to boycott the show if I was allowed to appear.

"I am, to say the least, deeply disappointed that QVC caved to this kind of insane pressure by some well funded and organized political extremist groups," said Fonda. "And that they did it without talking to me first. I have never shied away from talking about this as I have nothing to hide. I could have pointed out that threats of boycotts are nothing new for me and have never prevented me from having best selling books and exercise DVDs, films, and a Broadway play.

"Most people don’t buy into the far right lies," said Fonda. "Many people have reached out to express how excited they were about my going onto QVC and hearing about my book.

"Bottom line, this has gone on far too long, this spreading of lies about me! None of it is true. NONE OF IT!" said Fonda. "I love my country. I have never done anything to hurt my country or the men and women who have fought and continue to fight for us. I do not understand what the far right stands to gain by continuing with these myths. In this case, they denied a lot of people the chance to hear about a book that can help make life better, easier and more fulfilling. I am deeply grateful for all of the support I have been getting since this happened, including from my Vietnam Veterans friends."

QVC told the Associated Press that the cancellation of Fonda's appearance was a routine scheduling change. "It's not unusual to have a schedule change ... with little or no notice," QVC spokesman Paul Capelli told the news service.

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#15. To: lucysmom (#10)

What communist paradise is it that I admire?

All of them,past and present.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-17   14:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#11)

She is lucky that she wasn't tried for treason and executed.

That honor should go to those who lied our way into the war.

You mean JFK and LBJ?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-17   14:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#12)

I think we need to reinsitute the draft, up to and including the age of forty.

YIKES! Something we agree on! Especially if there were no student exemptions.

There would be a lot less of this bullshit going on if Buffy and Biff were in danger of being drafted.

Not only that,but draftees are a lot more likely to be whistle-blowers if they see something illegal or un-Constitutional going on.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-17   14:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom, CZ82 (#3)

Ya right, shut the fuck up bitch.....

Long live free speech!

So lucysidiotmommy "thinks" that Hanoi Jane et. al. have the right to commit TREASON?

Now lucysidiotmommy TRY to tell us all, you gibbering fool, that Hanoi Jane did not commit treason by what she did during the Vietnam WAR.

You stoopid phucking libTURD whore.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-07-17   14:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#15)

All of them,past and present.

Really? Well I'll be darned!

Thank you for sharing my thoughts and feelings with me.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-17   14:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#14)

More BullBarack! It's obvious to me you are the product of a political education,and believe the lies you were told.

And how many other Aspergers are there, who have led such illustrious military careers such as yourself?

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-17   14:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mininggold (#8)

That's because half the draftees in Vietnam would have come to her defense. She was extremely popular among those being required to take a bullet for the tire companies.

That's a bald faced lie whinnyold.

This whore Fonda turned a note passed to her by a POW over to the North Vietnamese.

Draftees are Americans also bitch.

No AMERICAN can support what that whore did bitch.

You are a lying libTURD whore, you agreeded with what she did.

Hanoi Jane is your hero bitch.

Phuck you both.

Spit ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-07-17   14:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Mad Dog (#21)

No AMERICAN can support what that whore did bitch.

You are a lying libTURD whore, you agreeded with what she did.

That only proves you had no actual Vietnam war experience.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-17   14:54:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#13)

I think we need to reinsitute the draft, up to and including the age of forty. Those who support wars should be forced to fight in them.

I have always thought that.

"Never ask others to do what you are unwilling to do."

Holy SHIT!

IT'S SNOWING IN HELL!

You two libTURD whores actually agree with me and most conservatives in this matter!

ALL able bodied serve.

ALL less than able bodied serve.

ALL serve.

ALL.

THAT is the ONLY way to fight against a professional military class.

THAT makes EVERYBODY pay attention.

THAT makes the gibbering classes/politician/liars/would be masters of the universe pay attention.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-07-17   14:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#13) (Edited)

I think we need to reinsitute the draft, up to and including the age of forty. Those who support wars should be forced to fight in them. I have always thought that.

"Never ask others to do what you are unwilling to do."

Now that's a good idea, reinstitute the draft or make military service mandatory for everybody.....

I can just see it now all of the Liberal draft dodgers heading for Canada again, wow maybe then we could do away with Welfare..... And chase away a whole lot of illegal aiens too!!!!!

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-17   15:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: CZ82 (#24)

I can just see it now all of the Liberal draft dodgers heading for Canada again...

The only draftee that I know wanted to go to Canada was and is conservative.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-17   15:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lucysmom (#25)

I can just see it now all of the Liberal draft dodgers heading for Canada again... The only draftee that I know wanted to go to Canada was and is conservative.

Good, let him go, just shows he isn't willing to do what it takes or what is right for his country.... one less mouth to feed....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-17   15:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#16)

You mean JFK and LBJ?

Woodrow Wilson too.


I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years -- Lyndon Johnson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-17   15:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

including from my Vietnam Veterans friends."

of course this traitorous bitch is referring to the VC and NVA.

IS THIS FOUL C*NT EVER GOING TO DIE, i've been waiting years to take a big healthy taco bell DUMP on this bitch's grave

calcon  posted on  2011-07-17   15:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: calcon (#28)

IS THIS FOUL C*NT EVER GOING TO DIE, i've been waiting years to take a big healthy taco bell DUMP on this bitch's grave

Jane Fonda loves niggers.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-17   17:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: calcon (#28)

IS THIS FOUL C*NT EVER GOING TO DIE, i've been waiting years to take a big healthy taco bell DUMP on this bitch's grave

Get in line!!!!

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-17   17:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mininggold (#22)

MD; No AMERICAN can support what that whore did bitch.

You are a lying libTURD whore, you agreeded with what she did.

whinnyold; That only proves you had no actual Vietnam war experience.

You miserable piece of lying libTURD shit.

I earned a VSM, with four stars, and a MUC with two stars, and a CAR.

YOU are the one without any Vietnam experience, you LYING libTURD cunt.

Hanoi Jane is, and always has been, YOUR kind of people bitch.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-07-17   18:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: CZ82 (#26)

Good, let him go...

Loving freedom, I thought what he did was up to him.

Once again it is the so-called conservative that thinks of impinging on the freedom of others.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-17   20:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lucysmom (#19)

Thank you for sharing my thoughts and feelings with me.

You're welcome. If it wasn't me,it would be somebody else.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-17   21:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mininggold (#20)

And how many other Aspergers are there, who have led such illustrious military careers such as yourself?

I don't know,but I DO know there are a lot if idiot self-described "liberals" out there who are really fascists at heart that expose their true prejudices and hatred towards those are different every day,just like you did just now.

BTW,are you REALLY so stupid that you think people with Aspergers are retarded?

After all,if *I* am retarded,what does that make you?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-17   21:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: jwpegler (#27)

Woodrow Wilson too.

Say what?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-17   21:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#35) (Edited)

Woodrow Wilson
To counter opposition to the war at home, Wilson pushed the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918 through Congress to suppress anti-British, pro-German, or anti-war opinions. He welcomed socialists who supported the war and pushed for deportation of foreign-born radicals.[92] Citing the Espionage Act, the U.S. Post Office refused to carry any written materials that could be deemed critical of the U. S. war effort. Some sixty newspapers were deprived of their second-class mailing rights.[93]

His wartime policies were strongly pro-labor. He worked closely with Samuel Gompers and the AFL, while suppressing antiwar groups trying to impede the war effort. The American Federation of Labor, the railroad brotherhoods and other 'moderate' unions saw enormous growth in membership and wages during Wilson's administration. There was no rationing, so consumer prices soared. As income taxes increased, white-collar workers suffered.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson

Big progressive union socialist global commie, started the Federal Reserve and WWI. Took Lincoln's Bolshevik revolution (the war of northern aggression) several steps further.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-17   21:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Mad Dog (#31)

Oh, bullshit you fucking poser

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-07-17   23:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Biff Tannen (#37)

.

No little boy biffy, NOT bullshit.

But then we all already know that YOU haven't ever served in any military, anywhere, anytime, don't we little boy biffy.

The matters that we are discussing here are things that you have only read about aren't they phuckwad?

Many of us, including me little boy biffy, LIVED it.

But none of this really matters to you and your ilk little boy biffy, does it little boy biffy?

You'd suck on Hanoi Jane's ass today just like you would have sucked on it when she did it.

Because she and you are exactly the same sort of people.

Vile, lying, chicken shit, libTURD cowards.

Spit ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-07-17   23:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#33)

If it wasn't me,it would be somebody else.

I've noticed youse guys are good that way.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-18   0:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Mad Dog (#38)

You'd suck on Hanoi Jane's ass today ...

No, no. She's filth.

And you are too.

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-07-18   9:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: hondo68 (#36)

Ok,he had nothing to do with getting us involved in VN.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-18   11:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: lucysmom (#39)

If it wasn't me,it would be somebody else.

I've noticed youse guys are good that way.

Hell,you DEPEND on people telling you what to do everyday because you don't have a actual mind of your own to make decisions.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-18   11:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

In the same statement Fonda said, "I have never done anything to hurt my country or the men and women who have fought and continue to fight for us."

Demonstrating that liberals are totally delusional on just about every topic under the sun.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-18   11:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: hondo68 (#36)

Woodrow Wilson

You forgot to list Wilson also RESEGREGATED the Military, fully supported 'Jim Crow' Laws, and was simply a flat out racist hate monger.

In other words, a Democrat.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-18   11:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#42)

Hell,you DEPEND on people telling you what to do everyday because you don't have a actual mind of your own to make decisions.

Wow, I really have you fooled.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-18   11:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mininggold (#8)

That's because half the draftees in Vietnam would have come to her defense. She was extremely popular among those being required to take a bullet for the tire companies.

iNsAnE iN tHe MeMbRaNe

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-18   12:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Biff Tannen (#40)

LOL!

Well being half right is a real improvement for a little cunt such as YOU little boy biffy.

But compared to YOU cunt, EVERYBODY who has ever even signed and went to basic/boot is in a orders of magnitude greater universe than cowardly parasites such as you, where actual DUTY and HONOR aren't just words.

Words that vile little cowardly cunts such as you could never, EVER, understand.

But IF you were a decent person you wouldn't need to have served to understand all of this.

However, you are a weak little whiney parasite cunt.

YOU and your ilk are all too happy to TAKE the liberty and FREEDOM that your betters throughout all of AMERICAN history have paid for with their own blood sweat tears and lives.

While YOU are nothing but a worthless whiny little parasite bitch.

It must suck to know that you are a parasite, a coward. and a fraud.

No wonder you are always such a cunt.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-07-18   13:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: lucysmom (#32)

Loving freedom, I thought what he did was up to him.

Once again it is the so-called conservative that thinks of impinging on the freedom of others.

Well if he wants to be a coward then it's his decision, just don't try coming back you're not wanted.....

Looks like your definiton of a conservative is different from mine. If he was too chickenshit to do what was right, then he's not a conservative he's really a Liberal!!!!!

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-18   16:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Mad Dog (#47)

Whatever, mig killer.

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-07-18   17:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: CZ82 (#48)

Looks like your definiton of a conservative is different from mine. If he was too chickenshit to do what was right, then he's not a conservative he's really a Liberal!!!!!

Some men went to Vietnam because, for them, that was the easier thing to do - go with the flow.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-18   18:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: lucysmom (#50)

Some men went to Vietnam because, for them, that was the easier thing to do - go with the flow.

They could have joined another service that didn't have a big presence in Nam, and would still have been doing their duty for their country.......

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-18   19:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: CZ82, lucysmom (#51)

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-18   19:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#52)

Amendment XIII to the Constitution.

What's that have to do with the US waging a police action in VN? It's not like the gov't is subject to any restrictions or anything.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-07-18   19:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#53)

I would argue that it is really the 14th. They took the real 13th from us.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-18   20:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: CZ82 (#51)

They could have joined another service that didn't have a big presence in Nam, and would still have been doing their duty for their country.......

Paying taxes is also a duty ones owes to one's country and we see how conservatives whine and wail about that. Don't you judge the man who refuses to kill.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-18   20:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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