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Title: Boehner: No Debt Limit Solution Til After Vote On Balanced Budget Amendment
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URL Source: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/ ... -balanced-budget-amendment.php
Published: Jul 15, 2011
Author: Brian Beutler
Post Date: 2011-07-15 12:58:49 by jwpegler
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Views: 6167
Comments: 14

Whatever the ultimate outcome of the debt limit fight, the theatrics will continue in the House of Representatives for another week or so.

Scores of House Republicans say they won't vote to raise the debt limit unless a Constitutional balanced budget amendment has been sent off to the states for ratification. And so whatever Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and other Congressional leaders decide about the real path ahead, he'll hold votes next week on a major spending cut and spending cap plan that includes a hike in the debt ceiling, and, separately, on a balanced budget amendment. The latter would require a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate and, in its current form, stands little chance of passing either chamber.

The votes themselves will put some political pressure on Democrats to support the nominally popular balanced budget amendment, and will allow Republicans to claim they voted to raise the debt limit in the event that the government runs out of borrowing authority. But the so-called "cut, cap, and balance" approach is dead on arrival in the Senate.

At a Friday press conference after a meeting with the GOP caucus, Boehner let slip, subtly, that the plan will go nowhere.

"The cut cap and balance plan that the House will vote on next week is a solid plan for moving forward," he said. "Let's get through that vote and then we'll make decisions about what will come after."

This effort is running parallel to the one leaders of both parties are putting together on the Senate side, in conjunction with the White House. That's where the real solution lies. Boehner's offer is a consolation prize, of sorts, for House conservatives, whom GOP leaders feel they must appease.

Hearing Boehner talk about it, you might think they had all the time in the world for symbolic votes.

"Senator McConnell pointed out that his plan is being put on the table as a last-ditch effort," he said. "We're far from the time for a last ditch effort."

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Text of the House Balanced Budget Amendment

Article--

Section 1. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed total receipts for that fiscal year, unless three-fifths of the whole number of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific excess of outlays over receipts by a rollcall vote.

Section 2. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed 18 percent of economic output of the United States, unless two-thirds of each House of Congress shall provide for a specific increase of outlays above this amount.

Section 3. The limit on the debt of the United States held by the public shall not be increased unless three-fifths of the whole number of each House shall provide by law for such an increase by a rollcall vote.

Section 4. Prior to each fiscal year, the President shall transmit to the Congress a proposed budget for the United States Government for that fiscal year in which total outlays do not exceed total receipts.

Section 5. A bill to increase revenue shall not become law unless two-thirds of the whole number of each House shall provide by law for such an increase by a rollcall vote.

Section 6. The Congress may waive the provisions of this article for any fiscal year in which a declaration of war is in effect. The provisions of this article may be waived for any fiscal year in which the United States is engaged in military conflict which causes an imminent and serious military threat to national security and is so declared by a joint resolution, adopted by a majority of the whole number of each House, which becomes law.

Section 7. The Congress shall enforce and implement this article by appropriate legislation, which may rely on estimates of outlays and receipts.

Section 8. Total receipts shall include all receipts of the United States Government except those derived from borrowing. Total outlays shall include all outlays of the United States Government except for those for repayment of debt principal.

Section 9. This article shall take effect beginning with the later of the second fiscal year beginning after its ratification or the first fiscal year beginning after December 31, 2016.'.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   13:03:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: jwpegler (#1)

I guess the original intent of the constitution was not good enough. So much for conservatives conserving the constitution.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-15   13:07:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Godwinson (#2)

I guess the original intent of the constitution was not good enough. So much for conservatives conserving the constitution.

Dunderhead, here is the original intent of the Constitution:

Article 5 - The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States...

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   13:16:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: jwpegler, mininggold (#5)

Suddenly the constitution is a living document for you conserva-creeps.

Hey, guess what the founding fathers did when they ratified the US Constitution? The purposefully took on the nation's debt.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-15   13:33:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Godwinson (#6)

Suddenly the constitution is a living document

Wrong again bozo.

That's not what the term "living document" means. "Living document" refers to the theory that the courts can interpret the Constitution in context of the times, regardless of what it actually says. Conservatives completely reject this notion.

The Constitution specifies a mechanism for amending it. That's what we're doing.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   13:39:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#8. To: jwpegler (#7)

The Constitution specifies a mechanism for amending it. That's what we're doing.

Hold your breath. You'll be as dead as those who did the same waiting for the Equal Rights Amendment to pass.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15 13:45:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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