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Title: IS GOLD MONEY?
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Published: Jul 14, 2011
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2011-07-14 13:07:59 by socalv8
Keywords: Paul, Ben, Good Question
Views: 75511
Comments: 131

Big Ben's hesitation was telling.

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#83. To: jwpegler (#82) (Edited)

America and the rest of the western world invented these things. We invented most of them when government was largely irrelevant in our lives.

The govts of the USA and abroad invested heavily in the development of most if not all these inventions including the invention of the computer and internet.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-16   18:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Godwinson (#83)
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The govts of the USA and abroad invested heavily in the development of most if not all these inventions

Complete and utter nonsense.

Show your sources on how government investment created the Automobile, Airplane, Assembly Line, Light Bulb, Telephone, etc.

You can't because it isn't true.


I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years -- Lyndon Johnson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-16   18:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: mininggold (#48)

Gold is way out of whack right now,

Out of whack, the new norm or the lowest it will ever be again...
Going to be interesting to watch, and fun since I'm not invested in it. Are you?

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-16   18:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: jwpegler (#82)

America and the rest of the western world invented these things.

That is exactly what scares the crap out of the psychotic, money mongering, human trash with delusions of godhood. They witnessed freedom loving Americans come together like no society in the history of this planet and project a will and an industrial might during WWII that has never been equaled. This human tripe has no other choice except to bring down America before they are destroyed by the decendents of those freedom loving Americans. They are scared stupid and that is certainly evident given the present day events.

eskimo  posted on  2011-07-16   18:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: socalv8 (#85) (Edited)

Out of whack, the new norm or the lowest it will ever be again...

If the Fed pursues a "Quantitative Easing" #3, we'll see gold at $2,500 an ounce.

We will also see mass hysteria on left, as they channel the dead ghost of FDR to bash "speculators" to try and shift blame from government boobs and tyrants to the market.

Fortunately, the government no longer has monopoly control of the media. So, the outcome is going to be very different than it was in the 1930s. Very different.


I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years -- Lyndon Johnson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-16   19:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: eskimo (#86) (Edited)

Yep. I completely agree.

In the 1930s, people in cahoots with the government had a monopoly in the media. Americans didn't get the truth. This is no longer the case. This scares the crap out of the government tyrants.


I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years -- Lyndon Johnson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-16   19:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: jwpegler (#84)

Show your sources on how government investment created the Automobile, Airplane, Assembly Line, Light Bulb, Telephone, etc.

Govt built roads that made the auto practical to own, the Wright Brothers would have gone nowhere if not for govt military contracts and the govt subsidized airports and so on. In cases where there was no govt subsidy the fact that the govt enforced patent rights is a major catalyst for innovation. The assembly line, sad that you do not know this - was not invented by Hentry Ford and existed in one form or another throughout time.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-17   9:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Godwinson (#89)

The military played a major role in the development of the internet so conservative would have a place to meet and complain about government.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-17   9:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Godwinson (#89)

Wright Brothers would have gone nowhere if not for govt military contracts

Yeah. Planes and automobiles would never have been invented if it weren't for the government. We would still be riding horses right fool? You are really cranky and really dumb. I pity you fool.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-17   10:14:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: socalv8 (#85)

Going to be interesting to watch, and fun since I'm not invested in it. Are you?

I still have most I obtained by my own labor, and some I bought at 400 and below.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-17   10:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#91)

Yeah. Planes and automobiles would never have been invented if it weren't for the government.

If not for the military and govt subsidies (US Post saved the airline businesses at one point when they initiated air mail at a loss) we would still be flying bi-planes made of cloth and wood. If not for orderly and well built roads by the govt automobiles would not be as wide spread as they are today. You seem to forget that the national road system was only built in the USA after WW2 by that commie Ike Eisenhower.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-17   11:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: jwpegler (#87)

If the Fed pursues a "Quantitative Easing" #3, we'll see gold at $2,500 an ounce.

They will...they threw the hint out and Wall St. will hold them to it.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-17   11:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: mininggold (#92)

most I obtained by my own labor

Is a license required to mine on your own? If not, it will soon, imho.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-17   11:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: socalv8 (#95) (Edited)

Is a license required to mine on your own? If not, it will soon, imho.

Not usually on private, sometimes a permit on certain public lands. You can still place a claim on most BLM or Forest Service lands if you can find any areas that are unclaimed that have anything worth prospecting. I'm talking pick and shovel type mining not anything requiring the removal and processing of large amounts of material.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-17   12:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: mininggold (#96)

Interesting, I'd guess that if gold prices skyrocket BLM and Fed Service lands will "lawyer up".

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-17   12:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: socalv8 (#97) (Edited)

Interesting, I'd guess that if gold prices skyrocket BLM and Fed Service lands will "lawyer up".

Most are already claimed, but they do take some off the list of claimables occasionally and occasionally they add some. They actually do land swaps and deals with the lumber companies ALL THE TIME.

If congress creates an reserve or park in an area, then the status of most claims there are changed according to the terms listed in the legislation.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-17   12:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: socalv8 (#97)

Interesting, I'd guess that if gold prices skyrocket BLM and Fed Service lands will "lawyer up".

Right now our lands are being used as assets for debt collateral. The Chinese want them as pristine as possible. Heh but that's a small price for the financing of wars that keeps the world safe for 'free markets'.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-17   12:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Godwinson (#89) (Edited)

Govt built roads that made the auto practical to own...

No. You said: "The govts of the USA and abroad invested heavily in the development of most if not all these inventions". You are completely wrong, so now you are changing your story.

None of the game changing technologies I listed had any government investment. Governments may have been one of the customers for many of these technologies. So what? They were created by private sector without government investment. BOZO.


I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years -- Lyndon Johnson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-17   13:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Godwinson (#93)

You seem to forget that the national road system was only built in the USA after WW2 by that commie Ike Eisenhower.

Real, freedom loving Americans should refuse to drive on them socialist highways.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-17   13:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: lucysmom (#101)

Real, freedom loving Americans should refuse to drive on them socialist highways.

Or use those socialist airports, or use communications involving satellites that are monitored by our socialist military to keep them from hitting each other.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-17   14:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: mininggold (#102)

Or use those socialist airports, or use communications involving satellites that are monitored by our socialist military to keep them from hitting each other.

If they really loved freedom, they'd boycott the internet.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-17   14:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: jwpegler, mininggold, lucysmom (#100) (Edited)

No. You said: "The govts of the USA and abroad invested heavily in the development of most if not all these inventions". You are completely wrong, so now you are changing your story.

There is no change in my story. You are just being a know-nothing.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-18   0:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: mininggold (#99)

Right now our lands are being used as assets for debt collateral. The Chinese want them as pristine as possible.

"Prestine" isn't an issue. They'll drill the land we're too stupid to drill.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-18   3:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: lucysmom (#101)

Real, freedom loving Americans should refuse to drive on them socialist highways.

Fake, profit hating Americans should insist on walking only on them there communist hiking paths.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-18   4:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: lucysmom (#103)

they'd boycott the internet.

Sure would make the DNC's job easier.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-18   4:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Godwinson (#104)

There is no change in my story.

You clearly did, Godwinson. Admitting mistakes is a trait you share with Obama.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-18   4:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: socalv8 (#106)

Fake, profit hating Americans should insist on walking only on them there communist hiking paths.

That doesn't make sense.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-18   8:43:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: lucysmom, socalv8 (#109)

We commies can walk on trails and drive on highways since they are both built and maintained by communist tax dollars.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-18   8:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Godwinson (#110) (Edited)

We commies can walk on trails and drive on highways since they are both built and maintained by communist tax dollars.

And we can enjoy ourselves because we're not consumed with bitterness.

Let's not forget our socialist sidewalks, sewers, and home invasion by socialist water.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-18   10:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: lucysmom (#111)

And we can enjoy ourselves because we're not consumed with bitterness.

I think the "socialist" canard is used to hide the fact that blacks are allowed to walk on the same side of the streets as whites, so these GOP-tards want to get rid of the sidewalks.......

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-18   10:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: lucysmom (#109)

That doesn't make sense.

Nor does your post that I was mocking. Socialst roads?

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-18   12:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Godwinson (#110)

We commies can walk

Gum chewing next semester?

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-18   12:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: lucysmom (#111)

Let's not forget our socialist sidewalks, sewers, and home invasion by socialist water.

Make that "socialist fluoridated water".

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-18   12:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Godwinson (#112)

I think the "socialist" canard is used to hide the fact that blacks are allowed to walk on the same side of the streets as whites

Phffftt. You lose, Tawana Brawley.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-18   12:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: socalv8 (#114)

Gum chewing next semester?

Hey, I've raised children. That means multitasking is my middle name.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-18   12:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Skip Intro (#115)

Make that "socialist fluoridated water".

Shhhh - don't get 'um all stirred up again.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-18   12:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: lucysmom (#111)

And we can enjoy ourselves because we're not consumed with bitterness.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-07-18   13:00:56 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: lucysmom (#117)

Once again you answer a post directed at Godwinson. Got something to tell us?

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-18   13:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#119)

Jeez...that Pelosi pic...Is this what Women's Lib brought us? FAIL.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-18   13:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: lucysmom, mininggold, gooberloserton, ALL (#111)

#111. To: Godwinson (#110) (Edited)

We commies can walk on trails and drive on highways since they are both built and maintained by communist tax dollars. And we can enjoy ourselves because we're not consumed with bitterness.

Let's not forget our socialist sidewalks, sewers, and home invasion by socialist water.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom posted on 2011-07-18 10:51:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

This is how morons "think" and "talk".

This known fool of one particular bent, tries to mock others of an another political persuasion as putatively being dogmatic "purists", who are on the whole incapable of seeing actual past actions as being both of utility to the American people, while being of at least a mixed political nature.

Which is supposed to "prove" somehow that "the others", (conservatives in this case, wink wink, nudge nudge), are stoopid and incapable of analytical thought.

But what it really shows is that this known FOOL is the dogmatic purist and incapable of rational thought.

Because you see only the demonRATs et. al. are political about everything all of the time, it is only they and their kind who put their partees before OUR country.

Only a FOOL who is a complete dogmatic ideological whore thinks that political theory especially as practically embodied in the REAL world is ever "pure" and/or "perfect".

Only FOOLS would ever think that any politics can EVER be 100% theoretically "pure" in the REAL world You gibbering idiot.

You are the same sort of phuckwad who claims that Communist China is better than the USA in alot of goobermental ways aren't you FOOL?

You libTARDS are beyond FUNNY!

When your fingers aren't on any triggers. (Want to explain to us ALL why YOUR messiah "king" obammy started a WAR with Lybia?)

2012 come soon!

SAVE the USA!

2012!

2012!

2012!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-07-18   13:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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