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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In International News See other International News Articles Title: IS GOLD MONEY? Source: [None] URL Source: [None] Published: Jul 14, 2011 Author: Ron Paul Post Date: 2011-07-14 13:07:59 by socalv8 Keywords: Paul, Ben, Good Question Views: 75381 Comments: 131 Big Ben's hesitation was telling. What say you? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 74. #2. To: socalv8 (#0) Money serves two purposes -- a medium of exchange and a store of value. Gold evolved as the most widely acceptable form of money over history because of it's characteristics -- it's scarce and durable. The pieces of paper that we pass around today are a lousy store of value because the government purposefully inflates the money supply to hand out to special interests. The only reason that they are accepted as a medium of exchange is because the government has decreed them to be so. jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-14   13:45:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: jwpegler, mininggold (#2) (Edited) The pieces of paper that we pass around today are a lousy store of value because the government purposefully inflates the money supply to hand out to special interests. The same thing happened with gold and silver based money. We saw deflation and inflationary periods with gold. In fact, just finding new gold mines would lower the value of your purse. We have had gold and silver bubbles before. As soon as people start to 'cash' in their gold holdings the price of gold will start to fall. That's what happened to the stock market and real estate bubbles. People bought the things and as more people bought the more the price went up but as soon as the tipping point was reached for people selling the stuff back the values collapsed. Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-14   15:34:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Godwinson (#4) (Edited) The same thing happened with gold and silver based money Dumb ass, the only way you can increase the supply of gold is by mining it. Historically, the gold supply has increased an average of 2% a year. On the other hand, there is no limit to how much fiat money a government can create and how quickly it can create it. This is why gold is a good store of value and fiat money is not. jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-14   15:51:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: jwpegler, mininggold (#6) (Edited) This is why gold is a good store of value and fiat money is not. As soon as anyone with significant reserves announces they are selling their gold the value drops. When the UK declared a sale of its gold in 1999 that was the fear and led to the Washington Agreement on Gold. Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-14   15:57:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Godwinson (#8) As soon as anyone with significant reserves announces they are selling their gold the value drops. LMAO! That is the kind of nonsense that keeps stupid people storing the fruits of their labor in paper promises until they become poor stupid people. When I was very young a $5 gold piece would buy you a fine rifle, a silver dollar would buy you 4 to 5 gallons of gasoline. Had one kept that silver and gold until today they would still be able to use it to purchase the same items. Keeping the same money in paper would now get you, maybe, two rounds for that rifle and a quart of gas. eskimo  posted on  2011-07-14   17:01:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: eskimo, Godwinson (#11) (Edited) LMAO! That is the kind of nonsense that keeps stupid people storing the fruits of their labor in paper promises until they become poor stupid people. LOL. It's a safe bet to say he's never owned a gold coin... I'm sure gobsheit has his 'savings' stored- not even in printed money, but in digital money, at the local bank. Which means it's not worth the paper it's not printed on... Of course, this supposes that an idiot like gobsheit has enough earning potential to have any savings... Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-14   17:14:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Capitalist Eric (#13) It's a safe bet to say he's never owned a gold coin... My guess is that Goobershit has never held a job either... jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-14   18:00:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: jwpegler, Capitalist Eric, CZ82, lucysmom, mininggold, eskimo (#21) Toothless inbred hillbillies know more about economics than you guys. The gold standard failed. Move out of the last century. The gold standard of the 1920s prolonged the Great Depression. The gold standard limited the flexibility of central banks' monetary policy by limiting their ability to expand the money supply, and thus their ability to lower interest rates. In the US, the Federal Reserve was required by law to have 40% gold backing of its Federal Reserve demand notes, and thus, could not expand the money supply beyond what was allowed by the gold reserves held in their vaults. That is different than investing in gold. But that is no more or less exotic than investing in orange or wheat futures. It's a commodity like any other. You will probably make more money investing in black gold aka oil. But the "gold delusion" is part of the mental mind fuck you right wingers operate under because it is linked to this mythology of a lost golden age back when America "worked", when blacks were Jim Crow'ed and women were subservient to men and other such delusions. Your obsession with the gold standard has more to do with your mythological world view (conservatives/right wingers in America are increasingly living in a fantasy world were empirical evidence is ignored) than sound economic policy. Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-15   9:21:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #51. To: Godwinson (#30) The gold standard failed. LOL!! That is the stupidest thing you have said so far. Gold has been money for 1000s of years. Appears you have been sucked into the delusional fiat money scam that has transformed a lot of stupid fools into poor stupid fools. No one with a modicum of intellect and their wits about them could deny the historical facts of the matter. eskimo  posted on  2011-07-15   17:19:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #53. To: eskimo (#51) Gold has been money for 1000s of years. So what? They stopped using it just like they stopped using human sacrifice to make it rain. Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-16   0:45:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #54. To: Godwinson (#53) LOL! Gold and silver are still money to rational people. You go ahead and stack your paper; you can always use it to wipe. eskimo  posted on  2011-07-16   3:34:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #55. To: eskimo (#54) You go ahead and stack your paper; you can always use it to wipe. Money is not made out of actual paper but it is clear you h ave no idea how money works. Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-16   9:26:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #56. To: Godwinson (#55) Clearly, I know much better than you that money must be a good "store of value". You go ahead and stack your paper; you can always use it to wipe. eskimo  posted on  2011-07-16   11:19:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #58. To: eskimo (#56) Clearly, I know much better than you that money must be a good "store of value". You go ahead and stack your paper; you can always use it to wipe. Lugging around all that gold must be tiring. mininggold  posted on  2011-07-16   11:41:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #62. To: mininggold (#58) Lugging around all that gold must be tiring. LOL! 1600 paper dollars is heavier than an ounce of gold. There you go, something just as stupid as you wrote. eskimo  posted on  2011-07-16   12:11:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #63. To: eskimo (#62) LOL! 1600 paper dollars is heavier than an ounce of gold. There you go, something just as stupid as you wrote. They don't use 100 dollar bills in your state? mininggold  posted on  2011-07-16   12:15:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #65. To: mininggold (#63) They don't use 100 dollar bills in your state? LOL!! Hell, we paper the the walls whith them. eskimo  posted on  2011-07-16   12:21:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #67. To: eskimo (#65) LOL!! Hell, we paper the the walls whith them. Does the State of Alaska pay you your yearly stipend in gold bullion or a check from the state's coffers? mininggold  posted on  2011-07-16   12:25:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #68. To: mininggold (#67) LOL!! I get my gold from the same creek I get my water. You really are not too bright, so just ask and I will try to help you fix that. eskimo  posted on  2011-07-16   12:35:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #69. To: eskimo (#68) LOL!! I get my gold from the same creek I get my water. You really are not too bright, so just ask and I will try to help you fix that. And I bet you don't realize that mercury is soluble in water, but hell you probably burn it off directly and take deep breaths as you are doing it. Another side effect is silly laughter and delusional thinking as expressed by your indicating that your statement of papering walls with 100 dollars bills actually makes sense to you. mininggold  posted on  2011-07-16   12:42:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #71. To: mininggold (#69) LOL!! You really only know enough to be childishly paranoid. The water soluable percentage of naturally occuring metals is not what you imagine or no water would be safe to drink. The rest of your childish innuendo must just be a manifestation of your mental malady. eskimo  posted on  2011-07-16   13:04:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #74. To: eskimo (#71) LOL!! You really only know enough to be childishly paranoid. The water soluable percentage of naturally occuring metals is not what you imagine or no water would be safe to drink. The rest of your childish innuendo must just be a manifestation of your mental malady. Which means you haven't tested it. mininggold  posted on  2011-07-16   13:08:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 74. #77. To: mininggold (#74) Which means you haven't tested it. Oh, but I have, for more than half a century. Anything else I can help you with? eskimo  posted on  2011-07-16 13:23:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 74. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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