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Title: Survey: Physicians Prefer Medicare to Private Plans
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Internal Medicine News
URL Source: http://www.internalmedicinenews.com ... -private-plans/9449dfc977.html
Published: Mar 01, 2001
Author: ERIK GOLDMAN
Post Date: 2011-07-14 09:22:35 by lucysmom
Keywords: What You Think You Know, Ain
Views: 39592
Comments: 66
DENVER — Physicians may not be enamored of Medicare, but they like it better than private insurance plans, according to a survey by the Medical Group Management Association. In MGMA's Payer Performance Study—covering more than 1,700 group practices—physician groups ranked Medicare Part B well ahead of six large private insurers in terms of overall satisfaction. The survey asked members of MGMA to rank seven of the largest payers (Medicare Part B, UnitedHealthcare, Aetna, Cigna, Humana, Coventry, and Anthem) on payer communications, provider credentialing, contract negotiation, payment processing, systems transparency, and overall satisfaction. Medicare led the pack with a mean aggregate satisfaction score of 3.59 on a 6-point scale. Aetna took second place with a score of 3.14. The big loser? UnitedHealthcare, with a score of 2.45.
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#1. To: Badeye, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, Capitalist Eric, Mininggold (#0)
A friend's doctor told her that Medicare actually pays better than Blue Shield.
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
Single Payer VA Medicare for All. The only way to be sure. " WASHINGTON — "The House on Friday overwhelmingly passed a $649 billion defense spending bill that boosts the Pentagon budget by $17 billion and covers the costs of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The House rejected a measure sponsored by Rep. Kucinich that would have prohibited funds for the U.S. military to continue its limited role in Libya.(photo: AFP) The strong bipartisan vote was 336-87 and reflected lawmakers' intent to ensure national security, preserve defense jobs across the nation and avoid deep cuts while the country is at war. While House Republican leaders slashed billions from all other government agencies, the Defense Department is the only one that will see a double-digit increase in its budget beginning Oct. 1." See the Correlation? 8D
As the Global Commission on Drug Policy recently reported: “The global war on drugs has failed, with devastating consequences for individuals and societies around the world…. Vast expenditures on criminalization and repressive measures directed at producers, traffickers and consumers of illegal drugs have clearly failed to effectively curtail supply or consumption…. Government expenditures on futile supply reduction strategies and incarceration displace more cost-effective and evidence-based investments in demand and harm reduction.” The War on Drugs has cost US taxpayers over $2.5 trillion dollars. From 1998 – 2008, a UN study estimates that the use of opiates has increased 35 percent and cocaine use has increased 27 percent. Due to nonviolent drug offenses, the US prison population has increased “more than twelvefold since 1980.” And then the War of Terror: $6.8 Trillion "July 13, 2011 No man is an island, and each man’s death diminishes me. But some more than others and the loss of Ahmed Wali Karzai, Governor of Kandahar, monster of corruption, second largest heroin dealer in the world, is not particularly saddening. It is, however, a tremedous reminder of the absolute futility of the war in Afghanistan. NATO have killed uncounted thousands, many of them civilians, precisely to put Ahmed Wali Karzai and his like into power. Ahmed Wali and his counterparts have stolen many billions of Western taxpayers’ money, intended for aid and reconstruction. They have flooded the world with more and cheaper heroin than ever seen before. Somehow this has all been a great victory for the West."
Remember the drug-dealing Reagan administration?
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
The Start of of the War of Drugs & Terror: " Afghanistan as a Drug War “From a modest 185 tons at the start of American intervention in 2001, Afghanistan now produced 8,200 tons of opium, a remarkable 53 percent of the country’s GDP and 93 percent of global heroin supply. when Clinton pushed the IranContra Investigation under the rug it sealed his fate....;}
Gee, I wonder why its insolvent....(eyes rolling)
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
I don't know - maybe George the lesser had a little to do with it.
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
One of my closest friends packed up his family, and moved out of the country. He and his wife are both doctors. They decided they weren't going to put with the ob@m@-c@re SOCIALIST system.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” The State can no longer hide the consequences of their 100-year lie. VERY interesting times are ahead.
Maybe you could join them.
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
You first. You're a fucking SOCIALIST. I'm sure there are LOTS of countries that'd love to have a parasite like you: Cuba, Norway, France, China... oh, forget that last one... they SHOOT parasites. Then again, maybe you *should* go. You're a fucking waste of flesh, so why don't you just die?
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... Their God... is the STATE.
Cuba doesn't put up with parasites. You work or you starve. ditto for the old Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, etc. It's only the decadent Europeans and Americans that allow lazy able bodied people to suck the lifeblood out of society.
I guess all that talk about Cuba being a communist country is more of that GOP BS. According to your description they fit that capitalist ideal of 'survival of the fittest' to a 'T'.
No. Communist countries forced people to work at the barrel of a gun. Ask anyone who lived in one.
You are mixing up communist and a dictatorship, while they aren't necessarily exclusive neither are they automatically inclusive either.
They are synonyms.
Argentina was a dictatorship that was not communist.
Every communist country is a dictatorship. Every dictatorship isn't communist. So I guess they aren't complete synonyms.
'Morning Stone. Perhaps you would explain why you banned war and allow posters who write stuff like the above to stay.
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
I'm sure there are LOTS of countries that'd love to have a parasite like you: Cuba, Norway, France, China... oh, forget that last one... they SHOOT parasites. Then again, maybe you *should* go. You're a fucking waste of flesh, so why don't you just die? Again, you expose yourself as an angry, bitter man lacking in social skills.
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
Milton Friedman's “Chicago Boys” proved that capitalism can get along just fine with a brutal dictator. You'd think some one as smart as CE would know that Capitalism is an economic system, not a political system (I guess they don't teach that in economics schools).
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
No, they are not. One is an economic system, the other is a political system. Hitler's Germany is an example of a Capitalist dictatorship; and reading the posts of capitalism's proponents on this forum, the preferred model.
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
Argentina was an authoritarian regime. All of the Communist countries were totalitarian regimes, as was Nazi Germany. There is a huge difference between authoritarian countries and totalitarian countries.
Wrong again. Communist -- government kills the goose that lays the golden egg Fascist -- government controls the goose that lays the golden egg and makes it work for state purposes Capitalist -- government leaves the goose alone
There is a huge difference between authoritarian countries and totalitarian countries. Argentina has been all of the above.
Communist -- government kills the goose that lays the golden egg Fascist -- government controls the goose that lays the golden egg and makes it work for state purposes Capitalist -- government leaves the goose alone Again you don't know your definitions. Capitalism is an economic system although it does desire to be unregulated so it can do it's dirty deeds with impunity. But China is capitalist yet also manages to be a communist dictatorship. Why don't you try to find the word 'capitalism' in our constitution.
Peron was definitely an admirer of Mussolini, but he was never able to establish the type of all encompassing regime that the Fascists, Nazis, and Communists did. Peron was a typical authoritarian dictator. The term Authoritarian refers to the structure of government rather than society. Totalitarianism is fundamentally different. Totalitarianism tries to control all aspects society including economy, education, art, science, private life and the morals of citizens. Fascism: Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state -- Benito Mussolini
Do you think Fascism would have enjoyed the enthusiastic support of American businessmen if it didn't uphold private property rights, private profits, and the existence of a market economy?
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
Wrong again. China is no longer a communist dictatorship. China has evolved into something akin to Chile under Pinochet -- a market system with authoritarian political control. China's goal is to become a giant Singapore. Yes, they still use the term "Communist Party", but it's something very different than the Communist Parties of the 20th century.
You do know there was a military coup down there in the late sixties that set up a strict dictatorship for about ten years.
Your not listening again, as usual. There are a lot of different kinds of dictatorships. Latin American dictatorships were authoritarian. Fascist, Nazi, and Communist dictatorships were totalitarian. Authoritarian dictatorships don't try to change human nature so that people will be happy to serve the state. Totalitarian dictatorships did try to do this.
Thanks.... you just cited the example that proves that not all communist practicing countries must be total dictatorships.
I don't listen avidly to posters who set them selves up as 'dictators' while not even knowing basic definitions.
Why don't you try to find the word 'democracy' in our Constitution.
So stop talking to me.
That's not what I said, and you're bozoed. Loser.
It sure was, since you are the only one in the big wide world who has claimed China is not a communist country. First bozo in makes YOU the loser.
Because a Representative Republic and a Democracy are entirely different? I bet you didn't know that. Capitalists like to obfuscate by calling the US a democracy though, because it's their preferred political system.
Gee, I wonder why its insolvent....(eyes rolling) I don't know - maybe George the lesser had a little to do with it. Yep. And thats why I voted against the GOP in 06. Some of us vote based on 'reality'. Others just vote straight party line, and thereby demonstrate a level of stupidity thats staggering when you think about it.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !
When Republicans decided they owed more allegiance to Grover Norquist than to constituents, I stopped voting Republican.
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
You make it too easy... LOL. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi Thanks for playing, loonymom/ming.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... Their God... is the STATE.
Socialism is a political system. Capitalism is an economic system. German businesses accepted foreign capital right up to and even during the war. Thanks for playing
Using your logic, that would make The People's Republic of China, Republican.
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
He might be right.
Coming from a socialist parasite like you, I guess my only answer would be "thank you!" *PING* to everyone else... a reminder of a good speech, by Ted Nugent: I like big trucks, big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women. I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel governmental functionary with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. I don't care about appearing compassionate. I think playing with toy guns doesn't make you a killer. I believe ignoring your kids and giving them Prozac might. I think I'm doing better than the homeless. I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. I have the right not to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or make me mad. This is my life to live, and not necessarily up to others expectations. I know what SEX is and there are not varying degrees of it. I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. But if you want to that's fine; I just don't feel like everyone else should have to. I believe that if you are selling me a Dairy Queen shake, a pack of cigarettes, or hotel room you do it in English. As of matter of fact, if you are an American citizen you should speak English. My uncles and forefathers shouldn't have had to die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come disrespect ours, and make us bend to your will. Get over it. I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you're running from them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the previous line. I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for unpopular opinions or actions. I know how to count votes and I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation do a recount when needed. I know what the definition of lying is, and it isn't based on the word "is"- ever. I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you qualify for any special loan programs, gov't sponsored bank loans, etc., so you can open a hotel, 7-Eleven, trinket shop, or anything else, while the indigenous peoples can't get past a high school education because they can't afford it. I didn't take the initiative in inventing the Internet. I thought the Taco Bell dog was funny. I want them to bring back safe and sane fireworks. I believe noone ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne,Ice-T or Marilyn Manson sang, but that doesn't mean I want to listen to that crap from someone else's car when I'm stopped at a red light. But I respect your right to. I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster or Jack In The Box. I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite or fat-free on the package. Our soldiers did not go to some foreign country and risk their lives in vain and defend our Constitution so that decades later you can tell me it's a living document ever changing and is open to interpretation. The guys who wrote it were light years ahead of anyone today, and they meant what they said - now leave the document alone, or there's going to be trouble. I don't hate the rich. I help the poor. I know wrestling is fake. I've never owned, or was a slave, and a large percentage of our forefathers weren't wealthy enough to own one either. Please stop blaming me because some prior white people were idiots - and remember, tons of white, Indian, Chinese, and other races have been enslaved too - it was wrong for every one of them. I believe a self-righteous liberal Democrat with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude. I want to know exactly which church is it where the "Reverend" Jessie Jackson preaches; and, what exactly is his job function. I own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you will serve the time. I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and should continue to make more. If it makes you mad, then invent the next operating system that's better and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you. I don't believe in hate crime legislation. Even suggesting it makes me mad. You're telling me that someone who is a minority, gay, disabled, another nationality, or otherwise different from the mainstream of this country has more value as a human being that I do as a white male. If someone kills anyone, I'd say that it's a hate crime. We don't need more laws! Let's enforce the ones we already have. I think turkey bacon, turkey beef, turkey fake anything stinks. I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child-it takes a parent with the guts to stand up to the kid and spank his butt and say "NO!"when it's necessary to do so. I'll admit that the only movie that ever made me cry was Ole Yeller. I didn't realize Dr. Seuss was a genius until I had a kid. I will not be frowned upon or be looked down upon or be made to keep silent because I have these beliefs and opinions. I thought this country allowed me that right. I will not conform or compromise just to keep from hurting somebody's feelings. I'm neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise. Yes, I guess by some people's definition, I may be a bad American. But that's tough. Ted Nugent It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... Their God... is the STATE.
I put loonymom/mini-intellect on my content filter this morning. It's the first time I blocked anyone. I hate to do it. But I just can't take her idiocy any longer.
Ted Nugent, the ex hippy, admitted wanton sex addict. Another brain full of scars from STDs and too loud music. LOLOL
Bullshit. Unlike you, I posted a citation, which is only one of many. I could post a variety of other sources, which will all tell you the same thing: Nazi Germany was a SOCIALIST country. Nazi was short for the National Socialist German Workers Party. How do you NOT understand this? How many references need I post, before you DO get it? You've been caught in either another lie, or exposed for being grossly ignorant. Which is it?
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... Their God... is the STATE.
How long does it take you to switch from one screen-name to another, to continue your "conversation?"
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... Their God... is the STATE.
It's amazing: she makes a statement that's obviously wrong, and I post information that demonstrates the error... and she just blindly keeps believing that her factually incorrect opinions are still perfectly valid. What a bimbo.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... Their God... is the STATE.
Why? Are you posting as jwpegler now? OTOH Naaah. It's probably just the expression of another one of your Asperger type symptoms.
Why would I need to? I've been using the same screen-name for 15 years, never felt the urge to "validate" my statements. However, when YOU, loonymom, make obviously gross errors, the only way to cover is to pretend to be someone else. Pathetic.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... Their God... is the STATE.
She's absolutely delusional. She reminds me of my ex-mother-in-law who insists that Elvis wasn't a drug addict. No matter how much evidence you put in front of her, she just shakes it off. It's unreal.
That must be why you got booted off LP.
Did you take heed of the opening words of your citation The self-identification term, used by exponents...? Again I ask you, why do you think American businessmen were enamored with Hitler and the Nazis? Why might Nazis want to identify themselves as socialists? Capitalists and conservatives in Germany feared that a takeover by the Communists was inevitable and did not trust the democratic parties of the Weimar Republic to be able to resist a communist revolution. Increasing numbers of capitalists began looking to the nationalist movements as a bulwark against Bolshevism. After Mussolini's fascists took power in Italy in 1922, fascism presented itself as a realistic option for opposing "Communism", particularly given Mussolini's success in crushing the Communist and anarchist movements which had destabilised Italy with a wave of strikes and factory occupations after the First World War. Fascist parties formed in numerous European countries. Many historians such as Ian Kershaw and Joachim Fest argue that Hitler and the Nazis were one of numerous nationalist and increasingly fascistic groups that existed in Germany and contended for leadership of the anti-Communist movement and, eventually, of the German state. Further, they assert that fascism and its German variant National Socialism became the successful challengers to Communism because they were able to both appeal to the establishment as a bulwark against Bolshevism and appeal to the working class base, particularly the growing underclass of unemployed and unemployable and growingly impoverished middle class elements who were becoming declassed (the lumpenproletariat). The Nazi's use of socialist rhetoric appealed to disaffection with capitalism while presenting a political and economic model that divested "socialism" of any elements which were dangerous to capitalism, such as the concept of class struggle, "the dictatorship of the proletariat" or worker control of the means of production. www.nazism.net/about/nazi_ideology/ You've been caught in either another lie, or exposed for being grossly ignorant. Which is it? The dilettante strikes again.
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
Don't see how thats relevant, but whatever.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
lmao. My ex mother in law was the same way. And yeah, so is goofy.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Another lie. I gave my opus HERE. Why do you keep posting shit that is so easy to disprove? Are you work at being an idiot, or does it just come naturally? Oh, and why bother to switch back to ming, from your other "personality," hmmm? Losing the argument again, eh?
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... Their God... is the STATE.
You failed to read and comprehend the meaning of the words... What, your lips get too tired from the effort? Here, let me HELP you, grannie: I could post a variety of other sources, which will all tell you the same thing: Nazi Germany was a SOCIALIST country. Nazi was short for the National Socialist German Workers Party. How do you NOT understand this? How many references need I post, before you DO get it? You've been caught in either another lie, or exposed for being grossly ignorant. Which is it? Nice evasion. Were I to make a guess, I'd say you're both; stupid and a liar. It would certainly explain why you post easily disproven bullshit, and then get annoyed when your lies are exposed. You stupidly think that nobody will see through your superficial attempts to cover yourself... We all see you're a joke. The only one who still thinks you post anything of substance... is you. Oh, and of course "ming," which we all know is also you. Must really suck to be you.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... Their God... is the STATE.
I could post a variety of other sources, which will all tell you the same thing: Nazi Germany was a SOCIALIST country. Nazi was short for the National Socialist German Workers Party. So what? Nazi Germany called itself socialist; does that make it socialist? If so, then mainland China must be a republic because it has the word "Republic" in its name. Nothing to say about my sourced rebuttal - thought not.
Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.
most women aree like that, they can't handle the truth why do yu think they vote democrat on a reguular basiss, they liike being lied to
First honest thing you've said. As always, you resort back to the same old playbook, that we all know: Rule of Disinformation #13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact. Your "citation" is a webpage that has interesting twists on historical data, but mainly uses words like "some historians say," or "a few philosophers think", etc., etc. In other words, it's a webpage I could have put together in a few hours, if I really wanted to. Which means your citation is worth precisely dick, especially when there are a variety of aspects that are factually wrong. I already described what "Nazi" stood for. The "Socialist" aspect was important, because Germans had been economically wiped out by World War I, the resultant Treaty of Versailles and "democratic politics." Of course, they were also aware of the suffering going on in Russia, due to the Bolshevik revolution, so that knew that Communism was a terrible alternative. They wanted SOCIALISM, without the flaws of Communism. They mixed in corporatist elements, and some dictatorial elements... But the end result was a hybrid between corporatism and socialism. Your point- that the Nazis were capitalists- is a LIE. Your "citation," your twisting it to fit alternative conclusions, and your whole line of thinking- is a LIE. Check-mate, grannie. ESAD.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... Their God... is the STATE.
hmmm......that desription reminds me of......welllllll.....of you.....seems i forgot to dump you in the bozo dustbin ya chaep truck stop dampened matress junkie slot. piss off until just after november's elections when i graciously allow you to reappear on my screen bleating and moaning in abjuect crushing defeat to my schadenfreude's delight. regressive pig. spit!!
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. (decided to retire the beatdowns on old worthless retread posters that are bozoed)
why do yu think they vote democrat on a reguular basiss, they liike being lied to So what do they like being lied to about, or need I even guess.....
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!
the big three, the size ofthere ass, how smart they arent and how good they dont look
You need to add "Money doesn't grow on trees" and your opinion of her parents to the list..... LOL.....
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!
The MGMA survey did not ask about satisfaction with actual Medicare reimbursement rates, but Dr. Jessee said he anticipated that Medicare's ranking could drop considerably if the federal government cuts physician fees in the future.
#2. To: lucysmom, All (#1)
#3. To: All (#2)
#4. To: mcgowanjm (#3)
#5. To: lucysmom (#4)
Remember the drug-dealing Reagan administration?
#6. To: lucysmom (#1)
A friend's doctor told her that Medicare actually pays better than Blue Shield.
#7. To: Badeye (#6)
Gee, I wonder why its insolvent....(eyes rolling)
#8. To: lucysmom (#1)
A friend's doctor told her that Medicare actually pays better than Blue Shield.
-- Joseph Goebbels --
#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#8)
#10. To: lucysmom (#9)
#11. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)
I'm sure there are LOTS of countries that'd love to have a parasite like you: Cuba
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#12. To: jwpegler (#11)
Cuba doesn't put up with parasites. You work or you starve. ditto for the old Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, etc. It's only the decadent Europeans and Americans that allow lazy able bodied people to suck the lifeblood out of society.
#13. To: mininggold (#12)
I guess all that talk about Cuba being a communist country is more of that GOP BS
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#14. To: jwpegler (#13)
No. Communist countries forced people to work at the barrel of a gun. Ask anyone who lived in one.
#15. To: mininggold (#14)
You are mixing up communist and a dictatorship
#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)
They are synonyms.
#17. To: mininggold (#16)
#18. To: Capitalist Eric, A K A Stone (#10)
Then again, maybe you *should* go. You're a fucking waste of flesh, so why don't you just die?
#19. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)
You're a fucking SOCIALIST.
#20. To: mininggold, Capitalist Eric (#14)
You are mixing up communist and a dictatorship, while they aren't necessarily exclusive neither are they automatically inclusive either.
#21. To: A K A Stone (#15)
They are synonyms.
#22. To: mininggold (#16)
Argentina was a dictatorship that was not communist
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#23. To: lucysmom (#21)
(Edited)
Hitler's Germany is an example of a Capitalist dictatorship
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#24. To: jwpegler (#22)
Argentina was an authoritarian regime. All of the Communist countries were totalitarian regimes, as was Nazi Germany.
#25. To: jwpegler (#23)
(Edited)
Wrong again.
#26. To: mininggold (#24)
(Edited)
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#27. To: jwpegler (#23)
Fascist -- government controls the goose that lays the golden egg and makes it work for state purposes
#28. To: mininggold (#25)
(Edited)
China is capitalist yet also manages to be a communist dictatorship
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#29. To: jwpegler (#26)
Peron was definitely an admirer of Mussolini, but he was never able to establishment the type of all encompassing regime that the Fascists, Nazis, and Communists did. Peron was a typical authoritarian dictator. The term Authoritarian refers to the structure of government rather than society.
#30. To: mininggold (#29)
(Edited)
set up a strict dictatorship
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#31. To: jwpegler (#28)
China is no longer a communist dictatorship. China has evolved into something akin to Chile under Pinochet -- market system with authoritarian political control. China's goal is to become a giant Singapore.
#32. To: jwpegler (#30)
Your not listening again, as usual.
#33. To: mininggold (#25)
(Edited)
Why don't you try to find the word 'capitalism' in our constitution.
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#34. To: mininggold (#32)
I don't listen avidly to posters...
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#35. To: mininggold (#31)
Thanks.... you just cited the example that proves that not all communist practicing countries must be total dictatorships.
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#36. To: jwpegler (#35)
That's not what I said, and you're bozoed. Loser.
#37. To: jwpegler (#33)
Why don't you try to find the word 'democracy' in our Constitution.
#38. To: lucysmom (#7)
#39. To: mininggold (#37)
obfuscate
#40. To: Badeye (#38)
Others just vote straight party line, and thereby demonstrate a level of stupidity thats staggering when you think about it.
#41. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#21)
Hitler's Germany is an example of a Capitalist dictatorship;
The self-identification term, used by exponents of the ideology past and present is National Socialism and adherents describe themselves as National Socialists. For instance the best known organisation expousing this system, the German party led by Adolf Hitler was called the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German abbreviation: NSDAP). Similarly, the second volume of Mein Kampf is entitled The National Socialist Movement.[18] According to Joseph Goebbels in an official exposition of the ideology, the logic behind the synthesis of Nationalism and Socialism as represented in the name, was to "counter the Internationalism of Marxism with the nationalism of a German Socialism".[19]
#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#41)
#43. To: Capitalist Eric (#41)
You make it too easy... LOL.
#44. To: lucysmom (#43)
Using your logic, that would make The People's Republic of China, Republican.
#45. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone, Rudgear, CZ82, jwpegler, hondo68, socalv8 (#19)
Again, you expose yourself as an angry, bitter man lacking in social skills.
I'm a Bad American - this pretty much sums it up for me.
#46. To: Capitalist Eric (#45)
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#47. To: Capitalist Eric (#45)
Ted Nugent
#48. To: lucysmom (#43)
Using your logic, that would make The People's Republic of China, Republican.
#49. To: mininggold (#44)
loonysmom: Using your logic, that would make The People's Republic of China, Republican.
wing-ding ming: He might be right.
#50. To: jwpegler (#46)
(Edited)
I put loonymom/mini-intellect on my content filter this morning. It's the first time I blocked anyone. I hate to do it. But I just can't take her idiocy any longer.
#51. To: Capitalist Eric (#49)
(Edited)
How long does it take you to switch from one screen-name to another, to continue your "conversation?"
#52. To: mininggold (#51)
#53. To: Capitalist Eric (#50)
It's amazing: she makes a statement that's obviously wrong, and I post information that demonstrates the error... and she just blindly keeps believing that her factually incorrect opinions are still perfectly valid.
Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin
#54. To: Capitalist Eric (#52)
Why would I need to? I've been using the same screen-name for 15 years, never felt the urge to "validate" my statements.
#55. To: Capitalist Eric (#48)
Bullshit. Unlike you, I posted a citation, which is only one of many.
#56. To: lucysmom (#40)
When Republicans decided they owed more allegiance to Grover Norquist than to constituents, I stopped voting Republican.
#57. To: jwpegler (#53)
She reminds me of my ex-mother-in-law who insists that Elvis wasn't a drug addict. No matter how much evidence you put in front of her, she just shakes it off. It's unreal.
#58. To: mininggold (#54)
(Edited)
That must be why you got booted off LP.
#59. To: lucysmom (#55)
Did you take heed of the opening words of your citation The self-identification term, used by exponents...?
The dilettante strikes again.
#60. To: Capitalist Eric (#59)
Here, let me HELP you, grannie:
#61. To: jwpegler (#53)
She's absolutely delusional. She reminds me of my ex-mother-in-law who insists that Elvis wasn't a drug addict. No matter how much evidence you put in front of her, she just shakes it off. It's unreal.
#62. To: lucysmom (#60)
Nazi Germany called itself socialist...
does that make it socialist? If so, then mainland China must be a republic because it has the word "Republic" in its name.
Nothing to say about my sourced rebuttal - thought not.
#63. To: whiningskank (#47)
Another brain full of scars from STDs and too loud music. LOLOL
#64. To: Lenny (#61)
most women aree like that, they can't handle the truth
#65. To: CZ82 (#64)
So what do they like being lied to about, or need I even guess.....
#66. To: Lenny (#65)
So what do they like being lied to about, or need I even guess..... the big three, the size ofthere ass, how smart they arent and how good they dont look
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