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Title: Survey: Physicians Prefer Medicare to Private Plans
Source: Internal Medicine News
URL Source: http://www.internalmedicinenews.com ... -private-plans/9449dfc977.html
Published: Mar 01, 2001
Author: ERIK GOLDMAN
Post Date: 2011-07-14 09:22:35 by lucysmom
Keywords: What You Think You Know, Ain
Views: 43924
Comments: 66

DENVER — Physicians may not be enamored of Medicare, but they like it better than private insurance plans, according to a survey by the Medical Group Management Association.

In MGMA's Payer Performance Study—covering more than 1,700 group practices—physician groups ranked Medicare Part B well ahead of six large private insurers in terms of overall satisfaction. The survey asked members of MGMA to rank seven of the largest payers (Medicare Part B, UnitedHealthcare, Aetna, Cigna, Humana, Coventry, and Anthem) on payer communications, provider credentialing, contract negotiation, payment processing, systems transparency, and overall satisfaction.

Medicare led the pack with a mean aggregate satisfaction score of 3.59 on a 6-point scale. Aetna took second place with a score of 3.14. The big loser? UnitedHealthcare, with a score of 2.45.

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#1. To: Badeye, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, Capitalist Eric, Mininggold (#0)

The MGMA survey did not ask about satisfaction with actual Medicare reimbursement rates, but Dr. Jessee said he anticipated that Medicare's ranking could drop considerably if the federal government cuts physician fees in the future.

A friend's doctor told her that Medicare actually pays better than Blue Shield.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-14   9:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom, All (#1)

Single Payer VA Medicare for All.

The only way to be sure.

" WASHINGTON — "The House on Friday overwhelmingly passed a $649 billion defense spending bill that boosts the Pentagon budget by $17 billion and covers the costs of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The House rejected a measure sponsored by Rep. Kucinich that would have prohibited funds for the U.S. military to continue its limited role in Libya.(photo: AFP) The strong bipartisan vote was 336-87 and reflected lawmakers' intent to ensure national security, preserve defense jobs across the nation and avoid deep cuts while the country is at war.

While House Republican leaders slashed billions from all other government agencies, the Defense Department is the only one that will see a double-digit increase in its budget beginning Oct. 1."

See the Correlation? 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-14   9:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

As the Global Commission on Drug Policy recently reported:

“The global war on drugs has failed, with devastating consequences for individuals and societies around the world….

Vast expenditures on criminalization and repressive measures directed at producers, traffickers and consumers of illegal drugs have clearly failed to effectively curtail supply or consumption….

Government expenditures on futile supply reduction strategies and incarceration displace more cost-effective and evidence-based investments in demand and harm reduction.”

The War on Drugs has cost US taxpayers over $2.5 trillion dollars. From 1998 – 2008, a UN study estimates that the use of opiates has increased 35 percent and cocaine use has increased 27 percent. Due to nonviolent drug offenses, the US prison population has increased “more than twelvefold since 1980.”

And then the War of Terror:

$6.8 Trillion

"July 13, 2011

No man is an island, and each man’s death diminishes me. But some more than others and the loss of Ahmed Wali Karzai, Governor of Kandahar, monster of corruption, second largest heroin dealer in the world, is not particularly saddening. It is, however, a tremedous reminder of the absolute futility of the war in Afghanistan.

NATO have killed uncounted thousands, many of them civilians, precisely to put Ahmed Wali Karzai and his like into power. Ahmed Wali and his counterparts have stolen many billions of Western taxpayers’ money, intended for aid and reconstruction. They have flooded the world with more and cheaper heroin than ever seen before. Somehow this has all been a great victory for the West."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-14   9:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

Remember the drug-dealing Reagan administration?

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-14   9:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#4)

Remember the drug-dealing Reagan administration?

The Start of of the War of Drugs & Terror:

" Afghanistan as a Drug War

“From a modest 185 tons at the start of American intervention in 2001, Afghanistan now produced 8,200 tons of opium, a remarkable 53 percent of the country’s GDP and 93 percent of global heroin supply.

when Clinton pushed the IranContra Investigation under the rug it sealed his fate....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-14   10:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#1)

A friend's doctor told her that Medicare actually pays better than Blue Shield.

Gee, I wonder why its insolvent....(eyes rolling)

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-14   13:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#6)

Gee, I wonder why its insolvent....(eyes rolling)

I don't know - maybe George the lesser had a little to do with it.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-14   15:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysmom (#1)

A friend's doctor told her that Medicare actually pays better than Blue Shield.

One of my closest friends packed up his family, and moved out of the country.

He and his wife are both doctors. They decided they weren't going to put with the ob@m@-c@re SOCIALIST system.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
-- Joseph Goebbels --

The State can no longer hide the consequences of their 100-year lie. VERY interesting times are ahead.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-14   17:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#8)

Maybe you could join them.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-14   21:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#9)

You first.

You're a fucking SOCIALIST.

I'm sure there are LOTS of countries that'd love to have a parasite like you: Cuba, Norway, France, China... oh, forget that last one... they SHOOT parasites.

Then again, maybe you *should* go. You're a fucking waste of flesh, so why don't you just die?

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-14   21:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)

I'm sure there are LOTS of countries that'd love to have a parasite like you: Cuba

Cuba doesn't put up with parasites. You work or you starve. ditto for the old Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, etc. It's only the decadent Europeans and Americans that allow lazy able bodied people to suck the lifeblood out of society.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-14   21:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jwpegler (#11)

Cuba doesn't put up with parasites. You work or you starve. ditto for the old Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, etc. It's only the decadent Europeans and Americans that allow lazy able bodied people to suck the lifeblood out of society.

I guess all that talk about Cuba being a communist country is more of that GOP BS. According to your description they fit that capitalist ideal of 'survival of the fittest' to a 'T'.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-14   22:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#12)

I guess all that talk about Cuba being a communist country is more of that GOP BS

No. Communist countries forced people to work at the barrel of a gun. Ask anyone who lived in one.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-14   22:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: jwpegler (#13)

No. Communist countries forced people to work at the barrel of a gun. Ask anyone who lived in one.

You are mixing up communist and a dictatorship, while they aren't necessarily exclusive neither are they automatically inclusive either.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-14   23:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mininggold (#14)

You are mixing up communist and a dictatorship

They are synonyms.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-14   23:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)

They are synonyms.

Argentina was a dictatorship that was not communist.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-14   23:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#16)

Every communist country is a dictatorship. Every dictatorship isn't communist. So I guess they aren't complete synonyms.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-14   23:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Capitalist Eric, A K A Stone (#10)

Then again, maybe you *should* go. You're a fucking waste of flesh, so why don't you just die?

'Morning Stone.

Perhaps you would explain why you banned war and allow posters who write stuff like the above to stay.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   9:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)

You're a fucking SOCIALIST.

I'm sure there are LOTS of countries that'd love to have a parasite like you: Cuba, Norway, France, China... oh, forget that last one... they SHOOT parasites.

Then again, maybe you *should* go. You're a fucking waste of flesh, so why don't you just die?

Again, you expose yourself as an angry, bitter man lacking in social skills.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   10:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold, Capitalist Eric (#14)

You are mixing up communist and a dictatorship, while they aren't necessarily exclusive neither are they automatically inclusive either.

Milton Friedman's “Chicago Boys” proved that capitalism can get along just fine with a brutal dictator. You'd think some one as smart as CE would know that Capitalism is an economic system, not a political system (I guess they don't teach that in economics schools).

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   10:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#15)

They are synonyms.

No, they are not. One is an economic system, the other is a political system.

Hitler's Germany is an example of a Capitalist dictatorship; and reading the posts of capitalism's proponents on this forum, the preferred model.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   10:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#16)

Argentina was a dictatorship that was not communist

Argentina was an authoritarian regime. All of the Communist countries were totalitarian regimes, as was Nazi Germany.

There is a huge difference between authoritarian countries and totalitarian countries.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   10:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom (#21) (Edited)

Hitler's Germany is an example of a Capitalist dictatorship

Wrong again.

Communist -- government kills the goose that lays the golden egg

Fascist -- government controls the goose that lays the golden egg and makes it work for state purposes

Capitalist -- government leaves the goose alone


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   10:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: jwpegler (#22)

Argentina was an authoritarian regime. All of the Communist countries were totalitarian regimes, as was Nazi Germany.

There is a huge difference between authoritarian countries and totalitarian countries.

Argentina has been all of the above.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   10:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: jwpegler (#23) (Edited)

Wrong again.

Communist -- government kills the goose that lays the golden egg

Fascist -- government controls the goose that lays the golden egg and makes it work for state purposes

Capitalist -- government leaves the goose alone

Again you don't know your definitions. Capitalism is an economic system although it does desire to be unregulated so it can do it's dirty deeds with impunity. But China is capitalist yet also manages to be a communist dictatorship.

Why don't you try to find the word 'capitalism' in our constitution.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   10:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold (#24) (Edited)

Peron was definitely an admirer of Mussolini, but he was never able to establish the type of all encompassing regime that the Fascists, Nazis, and Communists did. Peron was a typical authoritarian dictator. The term Authoritarian refers to the structure of government rather than society.

Totalitarianism is fundamentally different. Totalitarianism tries to control all aspects society including economy, education, art, science, private life and the morals of citizens.

Fascism: Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state -- Benito Mussolini


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   10:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: jwpegler (#23)

Fascist -- government controls the goose that lays the golden egg and makes it work for state purposes

Do you think Fascism would have enjoyed the enthusiastic support of American businessmen if it didn't uphold private property rights, private profits, and the existence of a market economy?

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   10:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mininggold (#25) (Edited)

China is capitalist yet also manages to be a communist dictatorship

Wrong again.

China is no longer a communist dictatorship. China has evolved into something akin to Chile under Pinochet -- a market system with authoritarian political control. China's goal is to become a giant Singapore.

Yes, they still use the term "Communist Party", but it's something very different than the Communist Parties of the 20th century.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   10:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: jwpegler (#26)

Peron was definitely an admirer of Mussolini, but he was never able to establishment the type of all encompassing regime that the Fascists, Nazis, and Communists did. Peron was a typical authoritarian dictator. The term Authoritarian refers to the structure of government rather than society.

You do know there was a military coup down there in the late sixties that set up a strict dictatorship for about ten years.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   10:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#29) (Edited)

set up a strict dictatorship

Your not listening again, as usual.

There are a lot of different kinds of dictatorships. Latin American dictatorships were authoritarian. Fascist, Nazi, and Communist dictatorships were totalitarian.

Authoritarian dictatorships don't try to change human nature so that people will be happy to serve the state. Totalitarian dictatorships did try to do this.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   10:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: jwpegler (#28)

China is no longer a communist dictatorship. China has evolved into something akin to Chile under Pinochet -- market system with authoritarian political control. China's goal is to become a giant Singapore.

Thanks.... you just cited the example that proves that not all communist practicing countries must be total dictatorships.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   10:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: jwpegler (#30)

Your not listening again, as usual.

I don't listen avidly to posters who set them selves up as 'dictators' while not even knowing basic definitions.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   11:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#25) (Edited)

Why don't you try to find the word 'capitalism' in our constitution.

Why don't you try to find the word 'democracy' in our Constitution.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   11:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mininggold (#32)

I don't listen avidly to posters...

So stop talking to me.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   11:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mininggold (#31)

Thanks.... you just cited the example that proves that not all communist practicing countries must be total dictatorships.

That's not what I said, and you're bozoed. Loser.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   11:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: jwpegler (#35)

That's not what I said, and you're bozoed. Loser.

It sure was, since you are the only one in the big wide world who has claimed China is not a communist country. First bozo in makes YOU the loser.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   11:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: jwpegler (#33)

Why don't you try to find the word 'democracy' in our Constitution.

Because a Representative Republic and a Democracy are entirely different? I bet you didn't know that.

Capitalists like to obfuscate by calling the US a democracy though, because it's their preferred political system.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   11:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: lucysmom (#7)

Gee, I wonder why its insolvent....(eyes rolling)

I don't know - maybe George the lesser had a little to do with it.

Yep. And thats why I voted against the GOP in 06.

Some of us vote based on 'reality'. Others just vote straight party line, and thereby demonstrate a level of stupidity thats staggering when you think about it.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-15   11:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold (#37)

obfuscate

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-07-15   12:30:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Badeye (#38)

Others just vote straight party line, and thereby demonstrate a level of stupidity thats staggering when you think about it.

When Republicans decided they owed more allegiance to Grover Norquist than to constituents, I stopped voting Republican.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   12:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#21)

Hitler's Germany is an example of a Capitalist dictatorship;

You make it too easy... LOL.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi

The self-identification term, used by exponents of the ideology past and present is National Socialism and adherents describe themselves as National Socialists. For instance the best known organisation expousing this system, the German party led by Adolf Hitler was called the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German abbreviation: NSDAP). Similarly, the second volume of Mein Kampf is entitled The National Socialist Movement.[18] According to Joseph Goebbels in an official exposition of the ideology, the logic behind the synthesis of Nationalism and Socialism as represented in the name, was to "counter the Internationalism of Marxism with the nationalism of a German Socialism".[19]

Thanks for playing, loonymom/ming.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-15   12:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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