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#26. To: mininggold (#24) (Edited)

Peron was definitely an admirer of Mussolini, but he was never able to establish the type of all encompassing regime that the Fascists, Nazis, and Communists did. Peron was a typical authoritarian dictator. The term Authoritarian refers to the structure of government rather than society.

Totalitarianism is fundamentally different. Totalitarianism tries to control all aspects society including economy, education, art, science, private life and the morals of citizens.

Fascism: Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state -- Benito Mussolini


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   10:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: jwpegler (#23)

Fascist -- government controls the goose that lays the golden egg and makes it work for state purposes

Do you think Fascism would have enjoyed the enthusiastic support of American businessmen if it didn't uphold private property rights, private profits, and the existence of a market economy?

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   10:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mininggold (#25) (Edited)

China is capitalist yet also manages to be a communist dictatorship

Wrong again.

China is no longer a communist dictatorship. China has evolved into something akin to Chile under Pinochet -- a market system with authoritarian political control. China's goal is to become a giant Singapore.

Yes, they still use the term "Communist Party", but it's something very different than the Communist Parties of the 20th century.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   10:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: jwpegler (#26)

Peron was definitely an admirer of Mussolini, but he was never able to establishment the type of all encompassing regime that the Fascists, Nazis, and Communists did. Peron was a typical authoritarian dictator. The term Authoritarian refers to the structure of government rather than society.

You do know there was a military coup down there in the late sixties that set up a strict dictatorship for about ten years.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   10:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#29) (Edited)

set up a strict dictatorship

Your not listening again, as usual.

There are a lot of different kinds of dictatorships. Latin American dictatorships were authoritarian. Fascist, Nazi, and Communist dictatorships were totalitarian.

Authoritarian dictatorships don't try to change human nature so that people will be happy to serve the state. Totalitarian dictatorships did try to do this.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   10:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: jwpegler (#28)

China is no longer a communist dictatorship. China has evolved into something akin to Chile under Pinochet -- market system with authoritarian political control. China's goal is to become a giant Singapore.

Thanks.... you just cited the example that proves that not all communist practicing countries must be total dictatorships.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   10:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: jwpegler (#30)

Your not listening again, as usual.

I don't listen avidly to posters who set them selves up as 'dictators' while not even knowing basic definitions.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   11:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#25) (Edited)

Why don't you try to find the word 'capitalism' in our constitution.

Why don't you try to find the word 'democracy' in our Constitution.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   11:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mininggold (#32)

I don't listen avidly to posters...

So stop talking to me.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   11:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mininggold (#31)

Thanks.... you just cited the example that proves that not all communist practicing countries must be total dictatorships.

That's not what I said, and you're bozoed. Loser.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   11:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: jwpegler (#35)

That's not what I said, and you're bozoed. Loser.

It sure was, since you are the only one in the big wide world who has claimed China is not a communist country. First bozo in makes YOU the loser.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   11:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: jwpegler (#33)

Why don't you try to find the word 'democracy' in our Constitution.

Because a Representative Republic and a Democracy are entirely different? I bet you didn't know that.

Capitalists like to obfuscate by calling the US a democracy though, because it's their preferred political system.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   11:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: lucysmom (#7)

Gee, I wonder why its insolvent....(eyes rolling)

I don't know - maybe George the lesser had a little to do with it.

Yep. And thats why I voted against the GOP in 06.

Some of us vote based on 'reality'. Others just vote straight party line, and thereby demonstrate a level of stupidity thats staggering when you think about it.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-15   11:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold (#37)

obfuscate

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-07-15   12:30:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Badeye (#38)

Others just vote straight party line, and thereby demonstrate a level of stupidity thats staggering when you think about it.

When Republicans decided they owed more allegiance to Grover Norquist than to constituents, I stopped voting Republican.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   12:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#21)

Hitler's Germany is an example of a Capitalist dictatorship;

You make it too easy... LOL.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi

The self-identification term, used by exponents of the ideology past and present is National Socialism and adherents describe themselves as National Socialists. For instance the best known organisation expousing this system, the German party led by Adolf Hitler was called the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German abbreviation: NSDAP). Similarly, the second volume of Mein Kampf is entitled The National Socialist Movement.[18] According to Joseph Goebbels in an official exposition of the ideology, the logic behind the synthesis of Nationalism and Socialism as represented in the name, was to "counter the Internationalism of Marxism with the nationalism of a German Socialism".[19]

Thanks for playing, loonymom/ming.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-15   12:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#41)

Socialism is a political system. Capitalism is an economic system. German businesses accepted foreign capital right up to and even during the war.

Thanks for playing

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   12:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Capitalist Eric (#41)

You make it too easy... LOL.

Using your logic, that would make The People's Republic of China, Republican.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   12:55:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom (#43)

Using your logic, that would make The People's Republic of China, Republican.

He might be right.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   13:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone, Rudgear, CZ82, jwpegler, hondo68, socalv8 (#19)

Again, you expose yourself as an angry, bitter man lacking in social skills.

Coming from a socialist parasite like you, I guess my only answer would be "thank you!"

*PING* to everyone else... a reminder of a good speech, by Ted Nugent:

I'm a Bad American - this pretty much sums it up for me.

I like big trucks, big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel governmental functionary with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies.

I don't care about appearing compassionate.

I think playing with toy guns doesn't make you a killer. I believe ignoring your kids and giving them Prozac might.

I think I'm doing better than the homeless.

I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized.

I have the right not to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or make me mad.

This is my life to live, and not necessarily up to others expectations.

I know what SEX is and there are not varying degrees of it.

I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. But if you want to that's fine; I just don't feel like everyone else should have to.

I believe that if you are selling me a Dairy Queen shake, a pack of cigarettes, or hotel room you do it in English.

As of matter of fact, if you are an American citizen you should speak English.

My uncles and forefathers shouldn't have had to die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come disrespect ours, and make us bend to your will. Get over it.

I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you're running from them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the previous line.

I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for unpopular opinions or actions.

I know how to count votes and I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation do a recount when needed.

I know what the definition of lying is, and it isn't based on the word "is"- ever.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you qualify for any special loan programs, gov't sponsored bank loans, etc., so you can open a hotel, 7-Eleven, trinket shop, or anything else, while the indigenous peoples can't get past a high school education because they can't afford it.

I didn't take the initiative in inventing the Internet.

I thought the Taco Bell dog was funny.

I want them to bring back safe and sane fireworks.

I believe noone ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne,Ice-T or Marilyn Manson sang, but that doesn't mean I want to listen to that crap from someone else's car when I'm stopped at a red light. But I respect your right to.

I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster or Jack In The Box.

I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite or fat-free on the package.

Our soldiers did not go to some foreign country and risk their lives in vain and defend our Constitution so that decades later you can tell me it's a living document ever changing and is open to interpretation. The guys who wrote it were light years ahead of anyone today, and they meant what they said - now leave the document alone, or there's going to be trouble.

I don't hate the rich.

I help the poor.

I know wrestling is fake.

I've never owned, or was a slave, and a large percentage of our forefathers weren't wealthy enough to own one either. Please stop blaming me because some prior white people were idiots - and remember, tons of white, Indian, Chinese, and other races have been enslaved too - it was wrong for every one of them.

I believe a self-righteous liberal Democrat with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

I want to know exactly which church is it where the "Reverend" Jessie Jackson preaches; and, what exactly is his job function.

I own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you will serve the time.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and should continue to make more. If it makes you mad, then invent the next operating system that's better and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

I don't believe in hate crime legislation. Even suggesting it makes me mad. You're telling me that someone who is a minority, gay, disabled, another nationality, or otherwise different from the mainstream of this country has more value as a human being that I do as a white male. If someone kills anyone, I'd say that it's a hate crime.

We don't need more laws! Let's enforce the ones we already have.

I think turkey bacon, turkey beef, turkey fake anything stinks.

I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child-it takes a parent with the guts to stand up to the kid and spank his butt and say "NO!"when it's necessary to do so.

I'll admit that the only movie that ever made me cry was Ole Yeller.

I didn't realize Dr. Seuss was a genius until I had a kid.

I will not be frowned upon or be looked down upon or be made to keep silent because I have these beliefs and opinions. I thought this country allowed me that right.

I will not conform or compromise just to keep from hurting somebody's feelings.

I'm neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise.

Yes, I guess by some people's definition, I may be a bad American. But that's tough.

Ted Nugent

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-15   13:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Capitalist Eric (#45)

I put loonymom/mini-intellect on my content filter this morning. It's the first time I blocked anyone. I hate to do it. But I just can't take her idiocy any longer.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   13:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Capitalist Eric (#45)

Ted Nugent

Ted Nugent, the ex hippy, admitted wanton sex addict. Another brain full of scars from STDs and too loud music. LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   13:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: lucysmom (#43)

Using your logic, that would make The People's Republic of China, Republican.

Bullshit. Unlike you, I posted a citation, which is only one of many.

I could post a variety of other sources, which will all tell you the same thing: Nazi Germany was a SOCIALIST country. Nazi was short for the National Socialist German Workers Party.

How do you NOT understand this?

How many references need I post, before you DO get it?

You've been caught in either another lie, or exposed for being grossly ignorant. Which is it?

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-15   13:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mininggold (#44)

loonysmom: Using your logic, that would make The People's Republic of China, Republican.
wing-ding ming: He might be right.

How long does it take you to switch from one screen-name to another, to continue your "conversation?"

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-15   13:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: jwpegler (#46) (Edited)

I put loonymom/mini-intellect on my content filter this morning. It's the first time I blocked anyone. I hate to do it. But I just can't take her idiocy any longer.

It's amazing: she makes a statement that's obviously wrong, and I post information that demonstrates the error... and she just blindly keeps believing that her factually incorrect opinions are still perfectly valid.

What a bimbo.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-15   14:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Capitalist Eric (#49) (Edited)

How long does it take you to switch from one screen-name to another, to continue your "conversation?"

Why? Are you posting as jwpegler now?

OTOH Naaah. It's probably just the expression of another one of your Asperger type symptoms.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   14:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: mininggold (#51)

Why would I need to? I've been using the same screen-name for 15 years, never felt the urge to "validate" my statements.

However, when YOU, loonymom, make obviously gross errors, the only way to cover is to pretend to be someone else.

Pathetic.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-15   14:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Capitalist Eric (#50)

It's amazing: she makes a statement that's obviously wrong, and I post information that demonstrates the error... and she just blindly keeps believing that her factually incorrect opinions are still perfectly valid.

She's absolutely delusional. She reminds me of my ex-mother-in-law who insists that Elvis wasn't a drug addict. No matter how much evidence you put in front of her, she just shakes it off. It's unreal.


Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history -- Vladimir Putin

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-15   14:04:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Capitalist Eric (#52)

Why would I need to? I've been using the same screen-name for 15 years, never felt the urge to "validate" my statements.

That must be why you got booted off LP.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-15   14:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Capitalist Eric (#48)

Bullshit. Unlike you, I posted a citation, which is only one of many.

Did you take heed of the opening words of your citation The self-identification term, used by exponents...?

Again I ask you, why do you think American businessmen were enamored with Hitler and the Nazis?

Why might Nazis want to identify themselves as socialists?

Capitalists and conservatives in Germany feared that a takeover by the Communists was inevitable and did not trust the democratic parties of the Weimar Republic to be able to resist a communist revolution. Increasing numbers of capitalists began looking to the nationalist movements as a bulwark against Bolshevism. After Mussolini's fascists took power in Italy in 1922, fascism presented itself as a realistic option for opposing "Communism", particularly given Mussolini's success in crushing the Communist and anarchist movements which had destabilised Italy with a wave of strikes and factory occupations after the First World War. Fascist parties formed in numerous European countries.

Many historians such as Ian Kershaw and Joachim Fest argue that Hitler and the Nazis were one of numerous nationalist and increasingly fascistic groups that existed in Germany and contended for leadership of the anti-Communist movement and, eventually, of the German state. Further, they assert that fascism and its German variant National Socialism became the successful challengers to Communism because they were able to both appeal to the establishment as a bulwark against Bolshevism and appeal to the working class base, particularly the growing underclass of unemployed and unemployable and growingly impoverished middle class elements who were becoming declassed (the lumpenproletariat). The Nazi's use of socialist rhetoric appealed to disaffection with capitalism while presenting a political and economic model that divested "socialism" of any elements which were dangerous to capitalism, such as the concept of class struggle, "the dictatorship of the proletariat" or worker control of the means of production.

www.nazism.net/about/nazi_ideology/

You've been caught in either another lie, or exposed for being grossly ignorant. Which is it?

The dilettante strikes again.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   15:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: lucysmom (#40)

When Republicans decided they owed more allegiance to Grover Norquist than to constituents, I stopped voting Republican.

Don't see how thats relevant, but whatever.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-15   16:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: jwpegler (#53)

She reminds me of my ex-mother-in-law who insists that Elvis wasn't a drug addict. No matter how much evidence you put in front of her, she just shakes it off. It's unreal.

lmao. My ex mother in law was the same way.

And yeah, so is goofy.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-15   16:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mininggold (#54) (Edited)

That must be why you got booted off LP.

Another lie. I gave my opus HERE.

Why do you keep posting shit that is so easy to disprove?

Are you work at being an idiot, or does it just come naturally?

Oh, and why bother to switch back to ming, from your other "personality," hmmm? Losing the argument again, eh?

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-15   17:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: lucysmom (#55)

Did you take heed of the opening words of your citation The self-identification term, used by exponents...?

You failed to read and comprehend the meaning of the words...

What, your lips get too tired from the effort?

Here, let me HELP you, grannie:

I could post a variety of other sources, which will all tell you the same thing: Nazi Germany was a SOCIALIST country. Nazi was short for the National Socialist German Workers Party.

How do you NOT understand this?

How many references need I post, before you DO get it?

You've been caught in either another lie, or exposed for being grossly ignorant. Which is it?

The dilettante strikes again.

Nice evasion. Were I to make a guess, I'd say you're both; stupid and a liar.

It would certainly explain why you post easily disproven bullshit, and then get annoyed when your lies are exposed. You stupidly think that nobody will see through your superficial attempts to cover yourself...

We all see you're a joke. The only one who still thinks you post anything of substance... is you. Oh, and of course "ming," which we all know is also you.

Must really suck to be you.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-15   17:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Capitalist Eric (#59)

Here, let me HELP you, grannie:

I could post a variety of other sources, which will all tell you the same thing: Nazi Germany was a SOCIALIST country. Nazi was short for the National Socialist German Workers Party.

So what? Nazi Germany called itself socialist; does that make it socialist? If so, then mainland China must be a republic because it has the word "Republic" in its name.

Nothing to say about my sourced rebuttal - thought not.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-15   18:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: jwpegler (#53)

She's absolutely delusional. She reminds me of my ex-mother-in-law who insists that Elvis wasn't a drug addict. No matter how much evidence you put in front of her, she just shakes it off. It's unreal.

most women aree like that, they can't handle the truth

why do yu think they vote democrat on a reguular basiss, they liike being lied to

Lenny  posted on  2011-07-15   18:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: lucysmom (#60)

Nazi Germany called itself socialist...

First honest thing you've said.

does that make it socialist? If so, then mainland China must be a republic because it has the word "Republic" in its name.

As always, you resort back to the same old playbook, that we all know:

Rule of Disinformation #13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

Nothing to say about my sourced rebuttal - thought not.

Your "citation" is a webpage that has interesting twists on historical data, but mainly uses words like "some historians say," or "a few philosophers think", etc., etc. In other words, it's a webpage I could have put together in a few hours, if I really wanted to. Which means your citation is worth precisely dick, especially when there are a variety of aspects that are factually wrong.

I already described what "Nazi" stood for. The "Socialist" aspect was important, because Germans had been economically wiped out by World War I, the resultant Treaty of Versailles and "democratic politics." Of course, they were also aware of the suffering going on in Russia, due to the Bolshevik revolution, so that knew that Communism was a terrible alternative.

They wanted SOCIALISM, without the flaws of Communism. They mixed in corporatist elements, and some dictatorial elements...

But the end result was a hybrid between corporatism and socialism.

Your point- that the Nazis were capitalists- is a LIE.

Your "citation," your twisting it to fit alternative conclusions, and your whole line of thinking- is a LIE.

Check-mate, grannie.

ESAD.

It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow Orwells' mottos:

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished.

Stephen King once observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [and] …logic can be happily tossed out the window.

This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY.

Because THEY are religious zealots...

Their God... is the STATE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-15   19:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: whiningskank (#47)

Another brain full of scars from STDs and too loud music. LOLOL

hmmm......that desription reminds me of......welllllll.....of you.....seems i forgot to dump you in the bozo dustbin ya chaep truck stop dampened matress junkie slot.

piss off until just after november's elections when i graciously allow you to reappear on my screen bleating and moaning in abjuect crushing defeat to my schadenfreude's delight.

regressive pig. spit!!

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. (decided to retire the beatdowns on old worthless retread posters that are bozoed)

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-07-15   22:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Lenny (#61)

most women aree like that, they can't handle the truth

why do yu think they vote democrat on a reguular basiss, they liike being lied to

So what do they like being lied to about, or need I even guess.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-16   11:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: CZ82 (#64)

So what do they like being lied to about, or need I even guess.....

the big three, the size ofthere ass, how smart they arent and how good they dont look

Lenny  posted on  2011-07-16   16:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Lenny (#65)

So what do they like being lied to about, or need I even guess..... the big three, the size ofthere ass, how smart they arent and how good they dont look

You need to add "Money doesn't grow on trees" and your opinion of her parents to the list..... LOL.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-16   20:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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