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Title: LET’S END THIS DEBT CEILING DEBATE WITH A $1 OZ. $1T COIN
Source: Pragmatic Capitalism
URL Source: http://pragcap.com/lets-end-this-de ... ing-debate-with-a-1-oz-1t-coin
Published: Jul 7, 2011
Author: Cullen Roche
Post Date: 2011-07-09 00:54:08 by lucysmom
Keywords: Debt Ceiling, Treasury vs Congress
Views: 59693
Comments: 102

A reader points out a very interesting loophole in the debt ceiling debate that would give the US Treasury the ability to tell the US Congress to take their fearmongering and shove it you know where. Reader “Beowulf” notes:

“No, Tsy isn’t authorized to just “print” money, the Federal Reserve Act gives that power to the Fed, However, the Coinage Act grants the Secretary of the Treasury rather broad coin seigniorage authority. Geithner could sidestep the debt ceiling this afternoon by ordering the West Point Mint to coin a 1 oz. $ 1 trillion coin. Tsy can then present the jumbo coins at the NY Fed to buy back $1 trillion in Fed-held debt (the Fed has to accept it, a creditor can’t refuse legal tender paid in to settle a debt):

(h) The coins issued under this title shall be legal tender… (k) The Secretary may mint and issue platinum bullion coins and proof platinum coins in accordance with such specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time.”

The simple threat of doing this would end this debate right here and right now. It’s time for Congress to stop playing Russian roulette with the US economy. If you want to take a stand on spending then do so before you pass legislation that causes us to run up into the debt ceiling. Don’t use some phony law to try to scare people into thinking that we are Greece (something that’s entirely impossible anyhow).

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#1. To: Badeye, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, Capitalist Eric, Mininggold (#0)

Sounds crazy, but...

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-09   0:57:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lucysmom (#1)

Crazy is raising the debt limit. The rationalizations for doing so are very similiar to a drunk's reasoning for demanding he be given another bottle of Jack Daniels.

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-11   9:48:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Badeye (#33)

The rationalizations for doing so are very similiar to a drunk's reasoning for demanding he be given another bottle of Jack Daniels.

Not hanging out with drunks, I wouldn't know what that might be.

What I do know is that if we don't pay our bills, we've broken our word.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-11   11:01:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: lucysmom (#36)

What I do know is that if we don't pay our bills, we've broken our word.

Raising the debt ceiling doesn't pay our bills. It only allows this administration to continue to write BAD CHECKS, further excerbating the debt crisis we already face.

And it will in fact 'break the word' to American Taxpayers...not that you on the Left give a rats ass about THAT.

Finally, I'm sure you are very familiar with drunks goofy. I don't believe anyone could suffer you without being drunk first.

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-11   11:12:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Badeye (#40)

Raising the debt ceiling doesn't pay our bills. It only allows this administration to continue to write BAD CHECKS, further excerbating the debt crisis we already face.

Every American owes $50,000 in current debt and $500,000 in future obligations. $500,000 -- that's $2 million for every family of four. The median household income is about $50,000 a year. Do the math. This can't possibly be paid.

Not only do we have to stop borrowing money now, we also have to remove Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid from entitlement status. They should be funded each year based on our ability to pay, not based on some automatic formula.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-11   11:37:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: jwpegler (#49)

we also have to remove Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid from entitlement status.

Get ready for war then, MFer.

You can use your Largest ever Military Budget to get me some weapons....

8D

Cause I ain't no body's slave.

These Entitlements as you call them were made because 7 million Americans had just dies of starvation/cold the Winter of 32.

The Top 50 000 will run out of bodies before the Bottom 90%....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-11   11:41:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: mcgowanjm (#53)

Get ready for war then

War with 60 year old dope heads like you??? Right. You can barely get out of bed in the morning and post incoherent rants on Liberysflame. ROTFLMAO.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-11   11:44:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: jwpegler (#56)

Get ready for war then

Whatever.

Now we know why your local police need tanks....

How's your Bailed out Banksters doin this AM?

Care to explain how America comes out of this Depression?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-11   11:46:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: All (#57)

#3. To: mcgowanjm (#2)

European Stock Markets crashing.

Yes they are.

Fred Mertz posted on 2011-07-11 10:28:34 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-11   11:47:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: mcgowanjm (#58)

European Stock Markets crashing.

Some might consider this a time to buy and jwpegler needs to use YOUR money. LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-11   11:55:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: mininggold (#64)

Some might consider this a time to buy and jwpegler needs to use YOUR money. LOLOL

I don't see how he gets it.

Zero Duration Short Term Treasuries.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-11   14:26:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: mcgowanjm (#82)

I don't see how he gets it.

Zero Duration Short Term Treasuries.

;}

Giving what you now make in SS contributions to Wall Street to invest in their pyramid schemes. But maybe you work for the prisons or similiar where you don't have to contribute.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-11   14:40:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#87. To: mininggold (#85)

Giving what you now make in SS contributions to Wall Street

Oh THAT!! ;}

That one died with bush43's political capital.

Now they have to do it illegally.

Which means they still owe me. No matter what.

And they'll give it to me, one way or the other.

I'll take land in lieu of, for instance...8>D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-11 14:43:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: mininggold (#85) (Edited)

"Even knowing how dedicated to bad ends Obama is, I still feel like I’ve walked into a parallel universe. He’s now determined to make these horrific entitlement cuts a sign of his manhood. This is “Change” for sure, to a more brutal, grasping, dog eat dog society, all administered by self serving elites. They will in the end reap the whirlwind they are creating, but not before it mows a path of destruction through our social order."

Obama will go down as the next Hoover.

bush43 having paved the way as Warren G Harding/Coolidge combined.

The USEMpire will implode.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-11 14:46:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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