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International News Title: Is a U.S. Default Inevitable? [Pat Buchanan] As President Bush prepared to invade Iraq in September 2002, the head of his economic policy council, Lawrence Lindsey publicly estimated such a war could cost $100 billion to $200 billion. Lindsey had committed candor, and the stunned Bushites came down on him with both feet. “Baloney,” said Donald Rumsfeld. The likely cost would be $60 billion, said Mitch Daniels of the Office of Management and Budget. We can finance the war with Iraqi oil, said Paul Wolfowitz. By year’s end, Lindsey was gone, back, in Ronald Reagan’s phrase, “testing the magic of the marketplace.” And the cost of the Iraq War? It has passed $1 trillion. So Lindsey is worth listening to. And he is now saving that the Obamaites may be wildly underestimating the deficits America is going to run in this decade. Here is why. The average rate of interest the Fed has had to pay to borrow for the last two decades has been 5.7 percent. However, President Obama is projecting the cost of money at only 2.5 percent. A return to the normal Fed rate would, by 2020, add $4.9 trillion to the cumulative deficit, says Lindsey, more than twice the $2 trillion in savings being discussed in Joe Biden’s debt-ceiling deal. Second, Obama is estimating growth in 2012, 2013 and 2014 at 4, 4.5 and 4.1 percent. But the normal rate for a mature economy recovering from recession is 2.5 percent. Hence, if we return to a normal rate of growth, rather than rise to Obama’s projected rate, says Lindsey, that would add $700 billion to the deficit over the next three years and $4 trillion by 2020. Taken together, a U.S. return to a normal rate of growth of 2.5 percent, higher than today, and a normal rate of interest for the Fed could add as much as $9 trillion to the deficits between now and 2020. New taxes on millionaires and billionaires who ride around in corporate jets can’t cover a tenth of 1 percent of these deficits. Writes Lindsey, “Only serious long-term spending reduction in the entitlement area can begin to address the nation’s deficit and debt problems.” His conclusion is logical, but seems impossible to achieve when both parties are talking of taking Medicare and Social Security off the table. Which makes his final point all the more compelling: “Under current government policies and economic projections, (bondholders) should be far more concerned about a return of their principal in 10 years than about any short-term delay in interest payments in August.” Lindsey is saying that the probability of U.S. bonds losing face value through inflation or default is high, given the size of the deficits we will be running and the improbability that any deficit-reduction plan now out there can significantly reduce them. Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s are already talking of downgrading U.S. debt if the debt ceiling is not raised by early August. Is America then headed for an inevitable default? One Chinese economist is already accusing us of defaulting, as the Fed’s flooding of the world with dollars has seen the dollar lose 10 percent of its value against other currencies in the last year. Holding $1 trillion in U.S. debt, China has watched the purchasing power of that U.S. paper plummet. Understandably, Beijing fears that if we ever pay back all they have lent us, it will be in U.S. dollars of far lesser value. What should House Republicans do? Stick to their principles and convictions. For the cause of the deficit-debt crisis has been the explosion in federal spending under Barack Obama to the largest share of the U.S. economy since the climactic years of World War II. Administrations of both parties contributed to this rise in the federal share of gross domestic product. But the GOP committed itself in 2010 to rein it in, without raising taxes. On that pledge the GOP triumphed and should keep its commitment. First, because it is a solemn undertaking with a nation disgusted with politicians who say one thing and do another. Second, because our fiscal crisis, like Europe’s, is a result of too much government, not too little revenue. Third, because there is no credible school of economic thought that says raising taxes on the productive sector when one in six workers is unemployed or underemployed is the way to prosperity. Under Obama these past two years, the nation relied on the U.S. government to pull us out of the ditch. But Obama’s $787 billion stimulus, his three deficits of 10 percent of GDP, and Ben Bernanke’s tripling of Fed assets by buying the bad paper of big banks and $600 billion in U.S. debt all failed. For Republicans to agree now to a tax increases that would violate their principles, their promises to the voters and their basic philosophy — and be icing on the cake of Obama’s debt-ceiling increase — would be politically suicidal. Indeed, were the Republican Party to do this, it would raise the question of why we need a Republican Party.
Poster Comment: Question: Is a U.S. Default Inevitable? Answer: YES.
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Yep. Every single man, woman and child in America owes about $50,000 in current debt. If you take the future obligations of Socialist Insecurity, MediScare, and MediScathe in account, we all owe about $540,000. It can't be paid. There are two options: Hyperinflation or default. Default would be far less painful. It's time to start from scratch. Default on the debt. Get rid of the welfare / warfare state. Implement sound money. Rebuild the country on a more solid footing. We should probably also hang a whole bunch of politicians and political appointees for getting us into this mess. That would be a powerful incentive for future politicians to refrain from digging us into another hole.
It's time to start from scratch. Default on the debt. Get rid of the welfare / warfare state. Implement sound money. Rebuild the country on a more solid footing. We should probably also hang a whole bunch of politicians and political appointees for getting us into this mess. That would be a powerful incentive for future politicians to refrain from digging us into another hole. Ditto, except for the hanging part; put them all on a deserted island and let them go Lord of the Flies.**** **** No cell phones.
I can see why you would pick 'Lord of the Flies' as it's the premier 'conservative' utopian dream scenario.
If you are claiming that anarchy is a conservative utopia then what the hell do you call democracy?
Actually it was survival of the fittest, but I should have stated that it's more the 'conservative' goal for the us, since they no doubt have other plans for themselves.
I'm a Democrat and I still don't get your meaning; sorry.
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