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Title: Nearly 1.3 Million In Ohio Sign Recall Of Union-Busting Bill, Placing It On The November 8 Ballot
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/ ... -recall-of-union-busting-bill/
Published: Jul 1, 2011
Author: By Eric W. Dolan
Post Date: 2011-07-01 11:41:08 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 59414
Comments: 110

The pro-labor coalition We Are Ohio delivered nearly 1.3 million signatures Wednesday to repeal SB 5, a new law restricting the collective-bargaining rights of public employees, placing it on the November 8 ballot.

People's World reported that the 1,298,301 signatures were delivered to the Secretary of State's office by a semi-truck packed with 1502 boxes of petitions and accompanied by a large "People's Parade."

We Are Ohio collected more signatures than any other petition drive in Ohio history thanks to the work of more than 10,000 volunteers.

The signatures must now be validated by each county board of elections office.

“Today we celebrate the unprecedented achievement of the more than one million Ohioans who want to repeal SB 5,” Melissa Fazekas, spokeswoman for We Are Ohio, said in a statement. “This historic number of signatures sends a strong, clear message to the extreme politicians who played political tricks to pass SB 5 and to the rest of the country."

"More than 1 million voices from all 88 counties can’t be wrong," she continued. "The more than 6200 people who marched today and the more than one million who support the citizen’s veto, are proof that while our campaign may be out spent, we will never be out worked, or out volunteered or out supported by hard working Ohioans.”

The filing of the petitions will keep SB 5 from taking effect until the results of the election are known in November.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

"You "say" the most iodtic things..." --our local dummy DwarF

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-01   13:28:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Capitalist Eric (#1)

Chuckles...that "free market" BS that you spout means that labor has the freedom to price its labor...

Hilarious that you support government meddling in the "Free Market" when it's being done to smack down the worker...

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I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-01   13:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

Yep, and boy are the leftwingers and union thugs going to be surprised at the result.

SB5 will be reaffirmed by a wide margin. Bookmark it, Brian.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   13:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#3)

SB5 will be reaffirmed by a wide margin. Bookmark it, Brian.

Interesting.....

What makes you so sure?

Jameson  posted on  2011-07-01   19:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

People's World reported that the 1,298,301 signatures were delivered to the Secretary of State's office by a semi-truck packed with 1502 boxes of petitions and accompanied by a large "People's Parade."

I'm curious as to how many of the signatures are fake, and how many of the people who signed it were lied to as to what it meant????? Nobody canvassed my plat trying to get signatures.....

Everybody I know is for what Kasich did, they are tired of paying the taxes required to employ those people.... most of them are idiots..... There have been no demonstrations whatsoever around here about SB5. I finally seen someone today "protesting" SB5, a 75 year old woman in a lawnchair!!! Heck you don't even see any signs along the side of the road talking about SB5.... In Columbus it might be an issue but in the western part of the state it doesn't seem to be an issue.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-01   19:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#2)

Hilarious that you support government meddling in the "Free Market" when it's being done to smack down the worker...

Some might say it's almost hypocritical.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-01   19:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CZ82 (#5)

Everybody I know is for what Kasich did, they are tired of paying the taxes required to employ those people.... most of them are idiots.

So, according to you, "MOST" Cops and Fire Fighters are idiots......

why do you feel this way?

Jameson  posted on  2011-07-01   20:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jameson (#7)

Everybody I know is for what Kasich did, they are tired of paying the taxes required to employ those people.... most of them are idiots.

So, according to you, "MOST" Cops and Fire Fighters are idiots......

why do you feel this way?

Dayton was recently told (by the US DOJ) they "HAD" to hire people to staff their police departments that "COULDN"T pass the entrance exam!!!!! don't you just love it???? Why hire and pay these clowns good money when they aren't even qualified??????

www.therightscoop.com/jus...-to-lower-police-recruit- test-standards/

You also forget about all of the county maintenance workers, the ones who make up the majority of workers.... police and fire dept do not account for that many positions....

I work for a Mechanical contractor in Dayton who does quite a lot of work for Montgomery Cty.....One of a bout a dozen Montgomery Cty hires on a regular basis..... The county has employees who "SUPPOSEDLY" are qualified to do the work I do for the county.... (at least that's what it says in their job description, most of them only know how to change lightbulbs)!!!

Now why would you want to employ someone who can't do the job they were hired to do, and still have to pay a private contractor to do the job???? The county is paying "TWICE" to get the work done.... does that make sense to you???? Not to me, I'm not gonna pay somebody twice to do something for me... that's insane, but that's what your tax money is going for, and that's why the taxpayers are pissed off....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-01   20:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82 (#8)

county maintenance workers, the ones who make up the majority of workers.... police and fire dept do not account for that many positions...

Yeah, yeah...

I know - the DOT workers leaning on their shovels......

So when you say that "county maintenance workers" make up the majority of workers....can you link to any stats to back it up?

I would have believed that there were far more cops, fire fighters and school teachers than maintenance workers....am I wrong?

Jameson  posted on  2011-07-01   21:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#3)

You are not worthy of a 'bookmark' asslips...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-07-02   0:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jameson (#9)

I know - the DOT workers leaning on their shovels......

So when you say that "county maintenance workers" make up the majority of workers....can you link to any stats to back it up?

I would have believed that there were far more cops, fire fighters and school teachers than maintenance workers....am I wrong?

DOT works for the State, not the county.....

And I see you have no clue who all works for the county!!!! It's not just fire, police and school teachers.. Try Sanitation, Water and Waste, Social Services, Vehicle Licensing, County commissioner, Legal Resource, Courts, Purchasing ....etc....etc.... etc..... that's just naming a few.... Who do you think gives you your Welfare check of Food Stamps....... a county worker!!!

Since you decided to add teachers into the mix, that last link I sent you about the Mont Cty Police being forced to hire unqualified people, well you can thank the local "UNION" school teachers for that..... If they were doing their job those people might actually be qualified to be cops, they might actually know something or be able to take a test..... That would mean that the taxpayers are "ACTUALLY" getting something in return for their taxes, not a bunch of ca ca ........

I related to you what I have seen from personal experience working with them.... If you want stats then look them up for yourself..... Montgomery county, Ohio!!!!!! See if those stats tell you what you want to know.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-02   1:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CZ82 (#11)

DOT works for the State, not the county.....

Counties have road maintenance workers. Who do you think maintains the roads that aren't part of the interstates.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-02   1:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#12)

DOT works for the State, not the county.....

Counties have road maintenance workers. Who do you think maintains the roads that aren't part of the interstates.

DOT (State) takes care of Interstates, US routes and state routes.....

City streets and county roads are under the guidance of the County Operations Engineer.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-02   1:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: CZ82 (#13)

City streets and county roads are under the guidance of the County Operations Engineer.....

And most commercial transport starts at the county ops road level.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-02   1:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jameson (#4)

Interesting.....

What makes you so sure?

The huge number of unemployed private sector types, and the very small percentage of employed voters in comparision here.

Union membership in the private sector here has imploded over the past couple of decades.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-02   9:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Brian S (#10)

You are not worthy of a 'bookmark' asslips...

Odd, since you routinely post 'bookmarked' when you don't agree, bitch.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-02   9:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye (#15)

The huge number of unemployed private sector types, and the very small percentage of employed voters in comparision [sic] here.

Wha...huh? You're claiming that Ohio has more unemployed people than employed people?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
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I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-02   9:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye (#15)

Union membership in the private sector here has imploded over the past couple of decades.

Duh...union membership everywhere has "imploded", Boofer.

Ohio is actually 2%pts above the national average. 13.7 v. 11.9.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-02   9:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#16)

Odd, since you routinely post 'bookmarked' when you don't agree, bitch.

And as usual, you are full of fucking shit...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-07-02   18:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#18)

Ohio is actually 2%pts above the national average. 13.7 v. 11.9.

Total membership maybe, actually working not near that amount..... Ohio has lost over 500,000 jobs in the last 10 years and quite a few of them were union jobs.... Most vehicle manufacturing union menbers around here are sitting at home because the plants are closed.... Most of the buildings have been demolished and the rest are in the process of being sold right now.... The rumour is the 1 GM plant left intact is being sold to a new investment company and they say the new owners will hire over 2,000 people... I just don't remember what they are going to offer/produce....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-02   22:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: CZ82 (#20)

FYI, Stone has banned war.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-02   22:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Skip Intro (#21)

That might last a day or so.

A K A Goldi keeps track of traffic on his site; and it's very slow right now.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-02   23:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Skip Intro (#21) (Edited)

FYI, Stone has banned war

That doesn't surprise me, and I'll bet a few others got it too......

There sure has been a lot of whining going on lately about the way he runs his website, and he finally got tired of it..... How he runs his website is his business, if people don't like it then they can just go someplace else.... If they have a beef with him then they need to be "ADULTS" about it and approach him thru a "NICELY" worded PM instead of calling him out on a thread made to piss him off....... that was dumb and got the expected response....

As I see it they got pissed off because he has a different viewpoint about some of the threads/post they made.... As I understand it there are some rules Stone should/has to follow as the owner of the site.... (whether he chooses to do so or not is his business).... And those rules should be posted clearly so everybody knows what can/can't be tolerated..... calling people names is a no no and probably one of the major reasons why all of this happened, along with re-wording of some threads titles......

Another thing I see is Stone has a busy personal life and doesn't have the time to police the site on a regular basis. And when he makes some edits/changes to their posts they come up with this shit of "You never said anything before about that" or "So and so said that in another thread" and just get plain obnoxious about it..... calm down children!!!!

He's changed the titles to 1-2 of my threads, and edited some of the words I posted...... I don't have a problem with that, it happens.... sometimes the wrong words just come out of your keyboard!!!!!

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-03   8:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: CZ82, war, woodchopper (#23)

That doesn't surprise me, and I'll bet a few others got it too.....

He was trying to mount an insurrection here. That is why he is gone. Woodchopper is now at full posting again.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-03   8:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: CZ82 (#23)

... sometimes the wrong words just come out of your keyboard!!!!

This is the mass attitude of why America is so fucked upped. Take responsibility for your own actions, man!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   9:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone, war (#24)

He [war] was trying to mount an insurrection here. That is why he is gone.

Are you out of your friggin' mind?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   9:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#25)

This is the mass attitude of why America is so fucked upped. Take responsibility for your own actions, man!

Responsibility!!!! That word seems like it's become a 4 letter word the last 20- 30 years or so.... along with a few others....

Responsibility, integrity and honesty are out, Irresponsibility, dishonesty and rascism are in!!!!!

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-03   9:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#26)

When someone posts an article telling everyone to bozo my new moderator. That is an insurrection. Any two year old would know that is a no no.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-03   9:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone, Moderator X (#28)

When someone posts an article telling everyone to bozo my new moderator.

You post in broken English, similar to your Moderator X.

That is an insurrection. Any two year old would know that is a no no.

Are you suggesting that the individual posters can not take advantage of BOZOing any poster they feel subject to their own dislikes? If so, why have a BOZO filter in the first place? If not, you have demonstrated contempt (once again) for your own subscribers.

Are you suggesting that the forum is not capable of viewing a thread based on opinion and respond (based on individual contributions) accordingly? If so, why have a forum at all?

There was no insurrection; that position infers spamming or joining another chit-chat forum. What you performed is just more "icing on the cake" of the reasons you need another moderator as opposed to more posters. You are simply attempting to alter the venue of LF from what you originally intended.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   10:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#27)

This is the mass attitude of why America is so fucked upped. Take responsibility for your own actions, man!

Then let the words posted by the person who's name it bears stand unless the poster asks his words be edited (that is holding the individual responsible). If the post exceeds the low standards of decency here, then delete it, and apply the same rules to all posts.

Of course the site belongs to A K A Stone and he can run it as he sees fit, however how he runs it determines whether or not it is a place of debate or a pot where a limited group can comfortably stew in their own juice.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-03   10:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)

When someone posts an article telling everyone to bozo my new moderator. That is an insurrection. Any two year old would know that is a no no.

Why?

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-03   10:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone, Moderator whatever (#31)

That is an insurrection. Any two year old would know that is a no no.

Why?

Two year olds know they should respect government authority? That's more of that Honda 'logic'. I doubt he has kids if he believes that's the case.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-03   11:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Brian S (#19)

Odd, since you routinely post 'bookmarked' when you don't agree, bitch. And as usual, you are full of fucking shit...

Ah, no, dumbass. The database here has at least TWO DOZEN examples of you doing this.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-03   11:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#24)

The dwarf does that on every site he has ever belonged to.

This isn't 'news'. What will be news is if you keep the banning in place.

How may times have you done this, then recinded?

It gets old Stone. Make a decision. And then stick with it.

That said, I can now clear my filter.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-03   11:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lucysmom (#30)

If the post exceeds the low standards of decency here, then delete it, and apply the same rules to all posts.

Since when does this site have any standards of decency?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-03   11:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: buckeroo (#29)

You post in broken English, similar to your Moderator X.

You post in the same language too conservative, amongst others, use. You are a Commonwealth citizen or try to affect that perception through consistent Commonwealth spelling. Its got nothing to do with your spell check or other excuses. You never address the observations directly but flee the board until you think it is safe to return. I don't know why you do it, but I don't like being lied to and I cannot imagine why you would on something as harmless and meaningless as a message board unless you simply have a mendacious nature. That or a flaming paranoid.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-07-03   11:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rudgear (#36)

You never address the observations directly but flee the board until you think it is safe to return.

Heya Ruddy! Happy Day before the Fourth of July!

You can remove your tagline now. War is all washed upped on LF.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   11:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: All, Rudgear (#37)

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

WOW! That tagline is all gone! That's a nice lad, Ruddy! Keep up the good work!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   11:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Skip Intro, yukon, Gatlin, harrowup, WhiteSands, 22rifle, A K A Stone, Moderator X (#35) (Edited)

DELETED BY A K A Stone

ROTFL

Here I shall put it back.

Since when does this site have any standards of decency?

When the LP Kloaughns post on LF. Ask A K A Stone about his own philosophy about that lot. They are given unbridled liberty to do anything they choose to include lying out their teeth for over a month while others were repeatedly banned, timed-out, censored, threads erased, altered and modified by A K A Stone.

Of course all that "moderating" by A K A Stone NEVER once included the LP Kloaughns; it was ALL the rest of us. That is why Stone has his trusty "Moderator X" now. It is ALL too much work for Stone alone.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   12:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Badeye (#34) (Edited)

The dwarf does that on every site he has ever belonged to.

Yet you have posted many times your sex fantasies with horses but here you are still able to post. Go figure.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-03   12:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Badeye (#33)

Ah, no, dumbass. The database here has at least TWO DOZEN examples of you doing this.

The big question is, why DO you have a need to stalk?

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-03   12:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Skip Intro (#35)

Since when does this site have any standards of decency?

If it did, I wouldn't have to employ my own standards and use the bozo filter.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-03   13:05:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Skip Intro (#35)

Since when does this site have any standards of decency?

If I raised the standards any higher you wouldn't be here. You're already here based on a sliding scale.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-03   13:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Badeye (#33)

The database here has at least TWO DOZEN examples of you doing this.

Liar. Not even close and you can't back up your claim so piss off.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-07-03   13:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro (#43) (Edited)

If I raised the standards any higher you wouldn't be here. You're already here based on a sliding scale.

Just what does he post here that is so bad?

And why don't you put the bestiality fantasizer here, badeye, on the same sliding scale, since you seem to think the standards here are so high. And while you are at it broadcast it so everyone else here knows.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-03   13:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mininggold (#45)

Just what does he post here that is so bad?

He is an ill mannered liberal.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-03   13:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone, war (#46)

He [war] is an ill mannered liberal.

First of all, war is not ill-mannered unless someone [anyone] provides a condescending opinion about himself; you can see this same characteristic throughout ALL of his posts and your perspective is rare with the exception of badeye.

Still, war has made more sound posts on LF than anyone and I don't necessarily agree with him; he makes a point and follows up with REAL data.

So what if he leans towards the liberal side of politics? Isn't that the scope of perspective folks want to see beyond your Palin and Israel rant?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   13:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#46)

He is an ill mannered liberal.

So that's why so called conservative perverts are tolerated. I see. And that's why your site is so full of them.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-03   13:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeroo (#47)

Still, war has made more sound posts on LF than anyone

Including you?

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-07-03   13:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: mininggold (#48)

Name the conservative perv-o's and how you know them to be perverted. Or are you just throwing the hyperbole around, hoping some will stick.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-07-03   13:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: mininggold (#48)

He is an ill mannered liberal.

So that's why so called conservative perverts are tolerated. I see. And that's why your site is so full of them.

What conservative perverts?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-03   13:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Rudgear (#49)

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

And including you.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   13:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: lucysmom (#30)

This is the mass attitude of why America is so fucked upped. Take responsibility for your own actions, man! Then let the words posted by the person who's name it bears stand unless the poster asks his words be edited (that is holding the individual responsible). If the post exceeds the low standards of decency here, then delete it, and apply the same rules to all posts.

Of course the site belongs to A K A Stone and he can run it as he sees fit, however how he runs it determines whether or not it is a place of debate or a pot where a limited group can comfortably stew in their own juice.

So has anybody ever asked Stone if he could be held responsible for the content of his website????

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-03   14:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: CZ82 (#53)

So has anybody ever asked Stone if he could be held responsible for the content of his website????

I deleted every article from that Las Vegas place that was suing people. They sent me an email.

Besides they will never take me alive. ;)

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-03   14:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#53)

So has anybody ever asked Stone if he could be held responsible for the content of his website????

Supposedly if the editing of titles and content occurs it doesn't matter what Stone thinks, the answer is yes (if anyone wants to pursue it). Which is probably why Stone does his best to keep traffic down on this site.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-03   14:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#54)

that Las Vegas place that was suing people

That slip and fall law firm was shot down in court recently. The judge ruled that posting the full article was fair use. YMMV.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-03   14:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: mininggold (#55)

Which is probably why Stone does his best to keep traffic down on this site.

Where do you get these wacky ideas?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-03   14:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: buckeroo (#52)

I notice your model web master Robin is deleting threads over at your example of Internet integrity. What's up with that?

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-07-03   14:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: hondo68 (#56)

that Las Vegas place that was suing people That slip and fall law firm was shot down in court recently. The judge ruled that posting the full article was fair use. YMMV.

So what you are saying is if you repost someone elses article the content has to stay the same, verbatim?????? If any changes are made to it then it's illegal???

And if the thread is illegal, who can be held responsible for it??? The webmaster/moderator or the person who posted it????

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-03   15:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: CZ82 (#59)

the content has to stay the same, verbatim?????? If any changes are made to it then it's illegal???

As far as I can figure, the decision took into account the type of content and a lot of other factors. It's far from a hard and fast ruling that you can post re- post anything. What the judge had for breakfast that morning could have been a factor. ;)


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-03   15:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: A K A Stone (#57)

Where do you get these wacky ideas?

Because you banned war and kept woodchopper.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-04   0:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: CZ82 (#59)

So what you are saying is if you repost someone elses article the content has to stay the same, verbatim??????

That would seem logical.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-04   0:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: lucysmom (#61)

Because you banned war and kept woodchopper.

woodchoppper didn't start a thread.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-04   2:19:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#63)

woodchoppper didn't start a thread.

So it's personal then.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-04   9:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: hondo68 (#60)

What the judge had for breakfast that morning could have been a factor. ;)

Aint that the truth.... LOL......

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-04   9:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#40)

Great example of why you aren't taken seriously, ming.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-04   11:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: mininggold (#41)

The big question is, why DO you have a need to stalk?

Wrong again, ming.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-04   11:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Brian S (#44)

The database here has at least TWO DOZEN examples of you doing this. Liar. Not even close and you can't back up your claim so piss off.

Fair enough. Approximately a dozen times, so fuck off Brian. You know you routinely have done this, have been called on it.

Then again, we both know you are a coward.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-04   11:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: buckeroo (#47)

First of all, war is not ill-mannered unless someone [anyone] provides a condescending opinion about himself; you can see this same characteristic throughout ALL of his posts and your perspective is rare with the exception of badeye.

Horseshit, bucky.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-04   11:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: lucysmom (#61)

Where do you get these wacky ideas? Because you banned war and kept woodchopper.

Almost every site he's ever been at has banned him eventually, bucky.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-04   11:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Badeye (#68)

Using google I found two instances. A far cry from the 2 dozen you claim.

Indeed the 'databases' do not LIE, unlike you.

www.google.com/search?hl=...&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=off

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-07-04   12:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: lucysmom, war (#62)

So what you are saying is if you repost someone elses article the content has to stay the same, verbatim??????

That would seem logical.

little war got busted adding text to articles in the past.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-04   12:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Brian S (#71)

Using google I found two instances. A far cry from the 2 dozen you claim.

Indeed the 'databases' do not LIE, unlike you.

Many more than that, sorry you have low capabilities related to searching.

And I'll note its you who said 'never'...were you lying then, or now, asslips?

rotflmao.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-04   13:03:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Badeye (#33)

The database here has at least TWO DOZEN examples of you doing this.

Liar.

You and "tubby" suck Dick.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-04   13:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: A K A Stone (#72) (Edited)

little war got busted adding text to articles in the past.

Another lie from you. He added one word to one article, and you have no idea if other posters here have done that or not. And I doubt you would care to find out.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-04   14:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Thunderbird, badeye (#74)

You and "tubby" suck Dick.

Careful or he will post another one of his fantasies about you and a horse.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-04   14:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Badeye, ALL (#73)

And I'll note its you who said 'never'...were you lying then

Show us all where I said "never" in regards to bookmarking scat eater.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-07-04   14:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: mininggold (#75)

little war got busted adding text to articles in the past.

Another lie from you. He added one word to one article,

You just said he did it then you said I lied about it. What does that make you?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-04   15:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Nearly 1.3 Million In Ohio Sign Recall Of Union-Busting Bill, Placing It On The November 8 Ballot

Yep, and this is why Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo, Youngstown, Dayton and Akron all suffered huge population declines from 2000 to 2010 -- the leftist reactionaries are still living in the mid-20th century and refuse to face reality.

This is why I got out of Michigan in 1989. Thank god that I had the sense to leave when I could.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-04   16:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Thunderbird (#74)

Hey, ming thinks you share a horse love interest with Fred!

(laughing)

Sounds like animal abuse to me.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-05   9:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Brian S (#77)

in regards to bookmarking scat eater.

No need to bring your sister into this, Brian....lmao

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-05   9:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: buckeroo (#39)

Of course all that "moderating" by A K A Stone NEVER once included the LP Kloaughns; it was ALL the rest of us. That is why Stone has his trusty "Moderator X" now. It is ALL too much work for Stone alone.

Goldi gives you free reign at her sewer; why do you need to trash this one too?

Stone has me locked out of banning you.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-05   13:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: harrowup (#82)

Goldi gives you free reign at her sewer; why do you need to trash this one too?

It is a beautiful summer, isn't it?

Stone has me locked out of banning you.

Hehehe. OK, Moderator X: now you know the power I wield. Please go away and sit in your corner wearing your classical duncehat while perched upon a three rung highchair.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-05   13:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo (#83)

Please go away

Nah; I'm here to remind you that when the vigilantes eventually decide to bring some measure of closure to all of the LULZSEC/ANONYMOUS wannabees they will start on the easy targets like you, Booby.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-05   16:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Badeye (#80)

Hey, ming thinks you share a horse love interest with Fred!

(laughing)

Sounds like animal abuse to me.

Leave it to you to mention "a horse love interest". I guess that's the only scenario that suits your imagination.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-05   16:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: harrowup (#84)

Naw. It is impossible to catch me. Here is why: you must have FACTS. Without facts, you are lost in a hopeless maze that is entertaining to everyone.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-05   16:25:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: mininggold (#85)

Leave it to you to mention "a horse love interest". I guess that's the only scenario that suits your imagination.

You brought it up, dumbass.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-05   16:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Badeye (#87)

You brought it up, dumbass.

Actually no, since you continually bring it up.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-05   16:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: mininggold (#88)

You brought it up, dumbass.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-05   16:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: buckeroo (#86)

Naw. It is impossible to catch me.

The vigilantes that have the facts don't need to catch you. They know where you live and work.

Most folks are fed up with internet hooligans. All of you should consider remote starters for your gas grills.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-05   16:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: mininggold (#76)

Careful or he will post another one of his fantasies about you and a horse.

Nah, the pathetic neocon klown just put me on filter.

I guess the truth 'hurts' more than Badlie cares to admit.

Free War

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   17:23:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: harrowup (#90)

The vigilantes that have the facts don't need to catch you. They know where you live and work.

I am shivering in my boots right now, a cold sweat is dripping from my brow and my blood pressure is 220/150. OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Most folks are fed up with internet hooligans. All of you should consider remote starters for your gas grills.

Perhaps, you should perform your own advise.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-05   20:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: buckeroo (#92)

SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Unlikely anyone can help you stop being such an asshole except you.

Shame really; when you're sober and calm you have some very intelligent views which bear discussion unlike the rest of the sociopaths that accompany you.

Unfortunately you can't resist your baser instincts and no one really bothers with your thoughts anymore.

Jackelope would have given you a swift kick.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-05   21:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: harrowup, buckeroo (#93)

Jackelope would have given you a swift kick.

I doubt he would have done anything other than laugh at YOU after your yukon stunt.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-05   21:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: mininggold (#94)

You have an unusual ability to be confused.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-05   22:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: harrowup (#93) (Edited)

Shame really; when you're sober and calm you have some very intelligent views which bear discussion unlike the rest of the sociopaths that accompany you.

What makes YOU think I am any different at any time? As far as the "sociopaths" don't you think you better hunker down and beg for "forgiveness" before a set of shenanigans are performed on you?

Jackelope would have given you a swift kick.

I shall invite you, specifically to view one of Hank's threads. It never received even a post. I shall consider it an honour if you come by once I ping you. Will you come by and say "hi" on LP?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-05   22:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: buckeroo (#96)

What makes YOU think I am any different at any time?

You stumble into incoherence as easily as warp which the rest of your post clearly demonstrates.

You're intelligent. Grow up and control yourself.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-05   22:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: harrowup (#97)

I am about to ping you on LP. Are you there? Will you come by and make a post after reading the article?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-05   22:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: buckeroo (#98)

You should not be allowed to post at LP, so of course I won't reply.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-05   23:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: harrowup (#99)

#1. To: JackelopeBreeder, harrowup (#0)

One of the GREATEST ALL TIME POSTERS left the planet a few years ago. Look at this thread Admiral, not one reply from about 5+ years ago on a significant issue confronting us today.

Oh man, the views concerning this thread are over 1400 and this is the first post. And we wonder why America is destroyed. Man oh Man, I cry about the destruction beyond any personal issues.

Come on by, harrowup. And say HI!

Moderator X posted on 2011-07-05 23:01:32 ET

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-05   23:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: harrowup (#99)

Well, despite your personal considerations I pinged you. For ol' tymes sake.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-05   23:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Fred Mertz (#100)

Thanks, Fred.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-05   23:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: buckeroo (#102)

Bucky, any time. That is when I have time.

My dog is on her last weeks or months. Do you have any advice with regard to that?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-05   23:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Fred Mertz (#103)

My dog is on her last weeks or months.

I am very sorry to hear this; dogs are so stoic about their pain. Hold her close and love her more than you can bear and she will rest easier. I am so sorry.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-05   23:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: harrowup (#104)

She's 16 and I've spent more than one-quarter of my life with her.

A friend told me he probably kept his dog going for a year longer than he should have - after the fact.

I won't keep her going for my pleasure. I hate to play god though. I'll do the right thing at the right time, but I'll hate it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-05   23:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Fred Mertz (#105)

I'm sorry Fred.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-05   23:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: lucysmom (#106)

She's the best thing that came out of my failed marriage. Thanks for your thoughts.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-05   23:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: harrowup (#93)

Jackelope would have...

You tacky old queen...Shut up.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-06   0:46:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Fred Mertz (#105)

A friend told me he probably kept his dog going for a year longer than he should have - after the fact.

You should listen to your friend. I did the same with a cat, for nearly two years. Once you get started on the "heroic" measures, it's almost impossible to stop.

Still, everyone has to do what they think is best. You have my sympathy and best wishes.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-06   1:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Skip Intro (#109)

Thank you for your sage advice and wishes. She had bounce in her step this morning and I'll do the right thing.

I know a guy, half a dozen years ago, that spent $5K for some sort of operation on his (and wife's) cat. Pets are priceless in many ways.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-06   14:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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