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Title: Nearly 1.3 Million In Ohio Sign Recall Of Union-Busting Bill, Placing It On The November 8 Ballot
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/ ... -recall-of-union-busting-bill/
Published: Jul 1, 2011
Author: By Eric W. Dolan
Post Date: 2011-07-01 11:41:08 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 59557
Comments: 110

The pro-labor coalition We Are Ohio delivered nearly 1.3 million signatures Wednesday to repeal SB 5, a new law restricting the collective-bargaining rights of public employees, placing it on the November 8 ballot.

People's World reported that the 1,298,301 signatures were delivered to the Secretary of State's office by a semi-truck packed with 1502 boxes of petitions and accompanied by a large "People's Parade."

We Are Ohio collected more signatures than any other petition drive in Ohio history thanks to the work of more than 10,000 volunteers.

The signatures must now be validated by each county board of elections office.

“Today we celebrate the unprecedented achievement of the more than one million Ohioans who want to repeal SB 5,” Melissa Fazekas, spokeswoman for We Are Ohio, said in a statement. “This historic number of signatures sends a strong, clear message to the extreme politicians who played political tricks to pass SB 5 and to the rest of the country."

"More than 1 million voices from all 88 counties can’t be wrong," she continued. "The more than 6200 people who marched today and the more than one million who support the citizen’s veto, are proof that while our campaign may be out spent, we will never be out worked, or out volunteered or out supported by hard working Ohioans.”

The filing of the petitions will keep SB 5 from taking effect until the results of the election are known in November.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

"You "say" the most iodtic things..." --our local dummy DwarF

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-01   13:28:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Capitalist Eric (#1)

Chuckles...that "free market" BS that you spout means that labor has the freedom to price its labor...

Hilarious that you support government meddling in the "Free Market" when it's being done to smack down the worker...

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war  posted on  2011-07-01   13:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

Yep, and boy are the leftwingers and union thugs going to be surprised at the result.

SB5 will be reaffirmed by a wide margin. Bookmark it, Brian.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   13:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#3)

SB5 will be reaffirmed by a wide margin. Bookmark it, Brian.

Interesting.....

What makes you so sure?

Jameson  posted on  2011-07-01   19:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

People's World reported that the 1,298,301 signatures were delivered to the Secretary of State's office by a semi-truck packed with 1502 boxes of petitions and accompanied by a large "People's Parade."

I'm curious as to how many of the signatures are fake, and how many of the people who signed it were lied to as to what it meant????? Nobody canvassed my plat trying to get signatures.....

Everybody I know is for what Kasich did, they are tired of paying the taxes required to employ those people.... most of them are idiots..... There have been no demonstrations whatsoever around here about SB5. I finally seen someone today "protesting" SB5, a 75 year old woman in a lawnchair!!! Heck you don't even see any signs along the side of the road talking about SB5.... In Columbus it might be an issue but in the western part of the state it doesn't seem to be an issue.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-01   19:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#2)

Hilarious that you support government meddling in the "Free Market" when it's being done to smack down the worker...

Some might say it's almost hypocritical.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-01   19:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CZ82 (#5)

Everybody I know is for what Kasich did, they are tired of paying the taxes required to employ those people.... most of them are idiots.

So, according to you, "MOST" Cops and Fire Fighters are idiots......

why do you feel this way?

Jameson  posted on  2011-07-01   20:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jameson (#7)

Everybody I know is for what Kasich did, they are tired of paying the taxes required to employ those people.... most of them are idiots.

So, according to you, "MOST" Cops and Fire Fighters are idiots......

why do you feel this way?

Dayton was recently told (by the US DOJ) they "HAD" to hire people to staff their police departments that "COULDN"T pass the entrance exam!!!!! don't you just love it???? Why hire and pay these clowns good money when they aren't even qualified??????

www.therightscoop.com/jus...-to-lower-police-recruit- test-standards/

You also forget about all of the county maintenance workers, the ones who make up the majority of workers.... police and fire dept do not account for that many positions....

I work for a Mechanical contractor in Dayton who does quite a lot of work for Montgomery Cty.....One of a bout a dozen Montgomery Cty hires on a regular basis..... The county has employees who "SUPPOSEDLY" are qualified to do the work I do for the county.... (at least that's what it says in their job description, most of them only know how to change lightbulbs)!!!

Now why would you want to employ someone who can't do the job they were hired to do, and still have to pay a private contractor to do the job???? The county is paying "TWICE" to get the work done.... does that make sense to you???? Not to me, I'm not gonna pay somebody twice to do something for me... that's insane, but that's what your tax money is going for, and that's why the taxpayers are pissed off....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-01   20:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82 (#8)

county maintenance workers, the ones who make up the majority of workers.... police and fire dept do not account for that many positions...

Yeah, yeah...

I know - the DOT workers leaning on their shovels......

So when you say that "county maintenance workers" make up the majority of workers....can you link to any stats to back it up?

I would have believed that there were far more cops, fire fighters and school teachers than maintenance workers....am I wrong?

Jameson  posted on  2011-07-01   21:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#3)

You are not worthy of a 'bookmark' asslips...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-07-02   0:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jameson (#9)

I know - the DOT workers leaning on their shovels......

So when you say that "county maintenance workers" make up the majority of workers....can you link to any stats to back it up?

I would have believed that there were far more cops, fire fighters and school teachers than maintenance workers....am I wrong?

DOT works for the State, not the county.....

And I see you have no clue who all works for the county!!!! It's not just fire, police and school teachers.. Try Sanitation, Water and Waste, Social Services, Vehicle Licensing, County commissioner, Legal Resource, Courts, Purchasing ....etc....etc.... etc..... that's just naming a few.... Who do you think gives you your Welfare check of Food Stamps....... a county worker!!!

Since you decided to add teachers into the mix, that last link I sent you about the Mont Cty Police being forced to hire unqualified people, well you can thank the local "UNION" school teachers for that..... If they were doing their job those people might actually be qualified to be cops, they might actually know something or be able to take a test..... That would mean that the taxpayers are "ACTUALLY" getting something in return for their taxes, not a bunch of ca ca ........

I related to you what I have seen from personal experience working with them.... If you want stats then look them up for yourself..... Montgomery county, Ohio!!!!!! See if those stats tell you what you want to know.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-02   1:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CZ82 (#11)

DOT works for the State, not the county.....

Counties have road maintenance workers. Who do you think maintains the roads that aren't part of the interstates.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-02   1:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#12)

DOT works for the State, not the county.....

Counties have road maintenance workers. Who do you think maintains the roads that aren't part of the interstates.

DOT (State) takes care of Interstates, US routes and state routes.....

City streets and county roads are under the guidance of the County Operations Engineer.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-02   1:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: CZ82 (#13)

City streets and county roads are under the guidance of the County Operations Engineer.....

And most commercial transport starts at the county ops road level.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-02   1:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jameson (#4)

Interesting.....

What makes you so sure?

The huge number of unemployed private sector types, and the very small percentage of employed voters in comparision here.

Union membership in the private sector here has imploded over the past couple of decades.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-02   9:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Brian S (#10)

You are not worthy of a 'bookmark' asslips...

Odd, since you routinely post 'bookmarked' when you don't agree, bitch.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-02   9:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye (#15)

The huge number of unemployed private sector types, and the very small percentage of employed voters in comparision [sic] here.

Wha...huh? You're claiming that Ohio has more unemployed people than employed people?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
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I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-02   9:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye (#15)

Union membership in the private sector here has imploded over the past couple of decades.

Duh...union membership everywhere has "imploded", Boofer.

Ohio is actually 2%pts above the national average. 13.7 v. 11.9.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-02   9:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#16)

Odd, since you routinely post 'bookmarked' when you don't agree, bitch.

And as usual, you are full of fucking shit...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-07-02   18:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#18)

Ohio is actually 2%pts above the national average. 13.7 v. 11.9.

Total membership maybe, actually working not near that amount..... Ohio has lost over 500,000 jobs in the last 10 years and quite a few of them were union jobs.... Most vehicle manufacturing union menbers around here are sitting at home because the plants are closed.... Most of the buildings have been demolished and the rest are in the process of being sold right now.... The rumour is the 1 GM plant left intact is being sold to a new investment company and they say the new owners will hire over 2,000 people... I just don't remember what they are going to offer/produce....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-02   22:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: CZ82 (#20)

FYI, Stone has banned war.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-02   22:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Skip Intro (#21)

That might last a day or so.

A K A Goldi keeps track of traffic on his site; and it's very slow right now.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-02   23:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Skip Intro (#21) (Edited)

FYI, Stone has banned war

That doesn't surprise me, and I'll bet a few others got it too......

There sure has been a lot of whining going on lately about the way he runs his website, and he finally got tired of it..... How he runs his website is his business, if people don't like it then they can just go someplace else.... If they have a beef with him then they need to be "ADULTS" about it and approach him thru a "NICELY" worded PM instead of calling him out on a thread made to piss him off....... that was dumb and got the expected response....

As I see it they got pissed off because he has a different viewpoint about some of the threads/post they made.... As I understand it there are some rules Stone should/has to follow as the owner of the site.... (whether he chooses to do so or not is his business).... And those rules should be posted clearly so everybody knows what can/can't be tolerated..... calling people names is a no no and probably one of the major reasons why all of this happened, along with re-wording of some threads titles......

Another thing I see is Stone has a busy personal life and doesn't have the time to police the site on a regular basis. And when he makes some edits/changes to their posts they come up with this shit of "You never said anything before about that" or "So and so said that in another thread" and just get plain obnoxious about it..... calm down children!!!!

He's changed the titles to 1-2 of my threads, and edited some of the words I posted...... I don't have a problem with that, it happens.... sometimes the wrong words just come out of your keyboard!!!!!

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-03   8:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: CZ82, war, woodchopper (#23)

That doesn't surprise me, and I'll bet a few others got it too.....

He was trying to mount an insurrection here. That is why he is gone. Woodchopper is now at full posting again.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-03   8:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: CZ82 (#23)

... sometimes the wrong words just come out of your keyboard!!!!

This is the mass attitude of why America is so fucked upped. Take responsibility for your own actions, man!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   9:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone, war (#24)

He [war] was trying to mount an insurrection here. That is why he is gone.

Are you out of your friggin' mind?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   9:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#25)

This is the mass attitude of why America is so fucked upped. Take responsibility for your own actions, man!

Responsibility!!!! That word seems like it's become a 4 letter word the last 20- 30 years or so.... along with a few others....

Responsibility, integrity and honesty are out, Irresponsibility, dishonesty and rascism are in!!!!!

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-03   9:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#26)

When someone posts an article telling everyone to bozo my new moderator. That is an insurrection. Any two year old would know that is a no no.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-03   9:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone, Moderator X (#28)

When someone posts an article telling everyone to bozo my new moderator.

You post in broken English, similar to your Moderator X.

That is an insurrection. Any two year old would know that is a no no.

Are you suggesting that the individual posters can not take advantage of BOZOing any poster they feel subject to their own dislikes? If so, why have a BOZO filter in the first place? If not, you have demonstrated contempt (once again) for your own subscribers.

Are you suggesting that the forum is not capable of viewing a thread based on opinion and respond (based on individual contributions) accordingly? If so, why have a forum at all?

There was no insurrection; that position infers spamming or joining another chit-chat forum. What you performed is just more "icing on the cake" of the reasons you need another moderator as opposed to more posters. You are simply attempting to alter the venue of LF from what you originally intended.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   10:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#27)

This is the mass attitude of why America is so fucked upped. Take responsibility for your own actions, man!

Then let the words posted by the person who's name it bears stand unless the poster asks his words be edited (that is holding the individual responsible). If the post exceeds the low standards of decency here, then delete it, and apply the same rules to all posts.

Of course the site belongs to A K A Stone and he can run it as he sees fit, however how he runs it determines whether or not it is a place of debate or a pot where a limited group can comfortably stew in their own juice.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-03   10:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)

When someone posts an article telling everyone to bozo my new moderator. That is an insurrection. Any two year old would know that is a no no.

Why?

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-03   10:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone, Moderator whatever (#31)

That is an insurrection. Any two year old would know that is a no no.

Why?

Two year olds know they should respect government authority? That's more of that Honda 'logic'. I doubt he has kids if he believes that's the case.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-03   11:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Brian S (#19)

Odd, since you routinely post 'bookmarked' when you don't agree, bitch. And as usual, you are full of fucking shit...

Ah, no, dumbass. The database here has at least TWO DOZEN examples of you doing this.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-03   11:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#24)

The dwarf does that on every site he has ever belonged to.

This isn't 'news'. What will be news is if you keep the banning in place.

How may times have you done this, then recinded?

It gets old Stone. Make a decision. And then stick with it.

That said, I can now clear my filter.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-03   11:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lucysmom (#30)

If the post exceeds the low standards of decency here, then delete it, and apply the same rules to all posts.

Since when does this site have any standards of decency?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-03   11:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: buckeroo (#29)

You post in broken English, similar to your Moderator X.

You post in the same language too conservative, amongst others, use. You are a Commonwealth citizen or try to affect that perception through consistent Commonwealth spelling. Its got nothing to do with your spell check or other excuses. You never address the observations directly but flee the board until you think it is safe to return. I don't know why you do it, but I don't like being lied to and I cannot imagine why you would on something as harmless and meaningless as a message board unless you simply have a mendacious nature. That or a flaming paranoid.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-07-03   11:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rudgear (#36)

You never address the observations directly but flee the board until you think it is safe to return.

Heya Ruddy! Happy Day before the Fourth of July!

You can remove your tagline now. War is all washed upped on LF.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   11:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: All, Rudgear (#37)

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

WOW! That tagline is all gone! That's a nice lad, Ruddy! Keep up the good work!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   11:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Skip Intro, yukon, Gatlin, harrowup, WhiteSands, 22rifle, A K A Stone, Moderator X (#35) (Edited)

DELETED BY A K A Stone

ROTFL

Here I shall put it back.

Since when does this site have any standards of decency?

When the LP Kloaughns post on LF. Ask A K A Stone about his own philosophy about that lot. They are given unbridled liberty to do anything they choose to include lying out their teeth for over a month while others were repeatedly banned, timed-out, censored, threads erased, altered and modified by A K A Stone.

Of course all that "moderating" by A K A Stone NEVER once included the LP Kloaughns; it was ALL the rest of us. That is why Stone has his trusty "Moderator X" now. It is ALL too much work for Stone alone.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-03   12:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Badeye (#34) (Edited)

The dwarf does that on every site he has ever belonged to.

Yet you have posted many times your sex fantasies with horses but here you are still able to post. Go figure.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-03   12:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Badeye (#33)

Ah, no, dumbass. The database here has at least TWO DOZEN examples of you doing this.

The big question is, why DO you have a need to stalk?

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-03   12:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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