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Title: A Political Scientist Who Does Great Economics
Source: Forbes
URL Source: http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/12/ec ... butors-thomas-c-schelling.html
Published: Oct 12, 2009
Author: Thomas C. Schelling
Post Date: 2011-07-01 01:43:27 by lucysmom
Keywords: Social Sciences
Views: 28203
Comments: 54

On the selection of Elinor Ostrom for the Frank E. Seidman Distinguished Award in Political Economy in 1997, I was invited to the award ceremony to say a few words. A colleague asked me who the recipient was, and I said "Elinor Ostrom."

Ostrom pioneered the study of informal, non-governmental institutions that people invent to ration their use of the "commons," even in asymmetrical situations like upstream versus downstream occupants of a river bank. What is known as the "free rider" (non-cooperator) problem has found a number of solutions, voluntarily adopted, in a variety of cultures and environments. Elinor Ostrom "discovered" this subject and revealed it to us with examples ranging from the simple to the sophisticated. The Nobel prizes are intended to honor not lifetime achievement but specific discoveries or inventions. Elinor Ostrom is a perfect example.

It has been remarked that she is the first woman to be awarded the prize in economic sciences. (Several women in other disciplines were awarded Nobels this year.) She is also the first political scientist, symbolizing that you don't need a Ph.D. from an economics department to do work that advances economic "sciences." Daniel Kahneman, who with Amos Tversky (deceased) pioneered what is now called "behavioral economics," is a psychologist at Princeton who received the Nobel recently.

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#1. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)

Have you figured out yet how political science relates to economics?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-01   1:58:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom (#1)

Have you figured out yet how political science relates to economics?

It involves killing brown people?

Nobel laureate Thomas Schelling's little-known role in the Vietnam War.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-01   3:25:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: socalv8 (#2)

It involves killing brown people?

This dark side of Tom Schelling is also the dark side of social science—the brash assumption that neat theories not only reflect the real world but can change it as well, and in ways that can be precisely measured.

Or it could be an economic theory that promotes unregulated free markets, trade, and opposes labor's right to organize for higher wages, better working conditions, and more benefits - not as overtly violent as war perhaps, but devastating none the less.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-01   9:57:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom (#6)

labor's right to organize for higher wages, better working conditions, and more benefits

Lefty Labor proved too greedy.
At least the Right works to satisfy their greed...the Left's greed is aimed at other's work.

socalv8  posted on  2011-07-03   2:38:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: socalv8 (#20)

Lefty Labor proved too greedy.

How many employees would it take to match the combined compensation of the top 209 CEOs?

Answer, 102,000.

www.bloomberg.com/news/20...-s-jobs-afl-cio-says.html

But for you, it is labor that is too greedy - interesting.

Why do you hate productive American workers?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-03   10:28:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#22)

Why do you hate productive American workers?

You must be referring to Non-union workers....

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-03   11:00:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: CZ82 (#24)

You must be referring to Non-union workers....

Nope. Only some one who wishes to see a docile working class would say that.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-03   11:06:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lucysmom (#26)

You must be referring to Non-union workers....

Nope. Only some one who wishes to see a docile working class would say that.

No I prefer to see a productive working class, "MOST" union members just aren't ... takes 4 people to do 1 persons job..... and whine their asses off!!!

It makes life much easier going someplace that requires "good" customer service if the workers there are smart/productive....

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-03   13:52:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: CZ82 (#30)

No I prefer to see a productive working class, "MOST" union members just aren't ... takes 4 people to do 1 persons job..... and whine their asses off!!!

My father was a union member.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-03   17:04:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: lucysmom (#31)

My father was a union member.

So was my dad, (Civil Service) two of my uncles, ( 1-GM and 1 state) all of the civilians who I supervised when I was in the military, and now me (private)... Seems to me you said he was a janitor???

I've seen all of the "different" (public/private/federal) unions over the years and know how they operate.... "MOST" of them are inefficient and whiny.... the only ones I've seen that are any good (private) are the ones who have to be "PRODUCTIVE" to keep their jobs.....

Our latest contract we signed (May 11) has "NO" pay raises in it for the next 3 years... Why??? Because that is what the market will bear right now, why demand a raise so you can put yourself out of work..... In fact we all took a .20 cents per hour deduction from our base pay to put into our retirement fund... The balance was getting low from a lot of construction members being unemployed that last 2-1/2 years..... On top of that the amount of "HOURS" worked per month has fallen %50 in the last 10 years.... Ohio has lost over 500,000 jobs since 2000 and a good bit of them were union..... Ask all of the unemployed GM people if they are happy with their union!!!!! Don't be surprised if you hear a lot of 4 letter words from them about their bosses... Ask a private union guy what he thinks about being unemployed and he will cuss the Politicians up one side and down the other!!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-07-03   17:31:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: CZ82 (#32)

Seems to me you said he was a janitor???

Nope, that was a friend's father.

I've seen all of the "different" (public/private/federal) unions over the years and know how they operate.... "MOST" of them are inefficient and whiny....

My experience has been exactly the opposite. Think about it - if government pays as well as youse guys seem to think it does, with better benefits and job security than the private sector, then government is able to attract and retain better employees.

Ask a private union guy what he thinks about being unemployed and he will cuss the Politicians up one side and down the other!!!!!

They should be going after the bankers with pitch forks - they're the guys that inflated the bubble and profited when it popped.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-04   0:27:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: lucysmom (#34)

Ask a private union guy what he thinks about being unemployed and he will cuss the Politicians up one side and down the other!!!!!

They should be going after the bankers with pitch forks - they're the guys that inflated the bubble and profited when it popped

They know who crawled into bed with the bankers and forced them to create this mess for political and monetary gain.......

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