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Title: Did Obama Forget Those Private Jet Tax Breaks He Just Denounced Were Created By His Own Stimulus Plan?
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://michellemalkin.com/2011/06/29/obama-stimulus-2/
Published: Jun 30, 2011
Author: Doug powers
Post Date: 2011-06-30 15:34:55 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 38098
Comments: 60

Before signing the stimulus bill (aka “Porkulus”) in February of 2009, White House Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton said that, even though the president probably hadn’t read the entire 1,079 bill cover-to-cover, he knew it was okay to sign because he had “a team of the best legislative and economic experts in the country who advised him.”

Apparently Obama didn’t check with them before letting loose on private jet tax breaks at today’s press conference.

From the Heritage Foundation:

The chief economic culprit of President Obama’s Wednesday press conference was undoubtedly “corporate jets.” He mentioned them on at least six occasions, each time offering their owners as an example of a group that should be paying more in taxes.

“I think it’s only fair to ask an oil company or a corporate jet owner that has done so well,” the president stated at one point, “to give up that tax break that no other business enjoys.”

But the corporate jet tax break to which Obama was referring – called “accelerated depreciation,” and a popular Democratic foil of late – was created by his own stimulus package.

More background on that here.

“The stimulus is working as intended! Well, except for that part… and that part… and…”

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#6. To: All (#0)

This was a GOP ornament that was put on to the stim Chirstmas Tree so that it could pass.

war  posted on  2011-06-30   16:02:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#6)

He didn't need any GOP votes to get the stimulus passed.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-30   16:12:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

He didn't need any GOP votes to get the stimulus passed.

Yes he did.

Dems had only 59 votes. Franken hadn't been seated yet.

war  posted on  2011-06-30   16:15:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#8)

The Senate then began consideration of the bill starting with the $275 billion tax provisions in the week of February 2, 2009.[11] A significant difference between the House version and the Senate version was the inclusion of a one-year extension of revisions to the alternative minimum tax which added $70 billion to the bill's total.

Republicans proposed several amendments to the bill directed at increasing the share of tax cuts and downsizing spending as well as decreasing the overall price.[12] President Obama and Senate Democrats hinted that they would be willing to compromise on Republican suggestions to increase infrastructure spending and to double the housing tax credit proposed from $7,500 to $15,000 and expand its application to all home buyers, not just first-time buyers.[13] Other considered amendments included the Freedom Act of 2009, an amendment proposed by Senate Finance Committee members Maria Cantwell (D) and Orrin Hatch (R) to include tax incentives for plug-in electric vehicles[14] and an amendment proposed by Jim DeMint (R) to remove language from the bill that would prohibit funds which would be "used for sectarian instruction, religious worship, or a school or department of divinity; or in which a substantial portion of the functions of the facilities are subsumed in a religious mission".[15]

The Senate called a special Saturday debate session for February 7 at the urging of President Obama. The Senate voted, 61-36 (with 2 not voting) on February 9 to end debate on the bill and advance it to the Senate floor to vote on the bill itself.[16] On February 10, the Senate voted 61-37 (with one not voting)[17] All the Democrats voted in favor, but only three Republicans voted in favor (Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, and Arlen Specter), with Specter later switching to the Democratic party.[18] At one point, the Senate bill stood at $838 billion

Nothing there about Obama giving a concession of corporate jets. So, as usual, you're just making it up.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-30   16:21:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: no gnu taxes (#9)

ROFLMAO...I'm not as stupid as you are.

Who is a US Senator from the State of Kansas and what company is headquartered there, douche?

war  posted on  2011-06-30   16:30:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#10)

Who is a US Senator from the State of Kansas and what company is headquartered there, douche?

No Kansas Senator voted for the stimulus, douche.

You are making the whole thing up.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-30   16:42:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: no gnu taxes (#11) (Edited)

No Kansas Senator voted for the stimulus, douche.

You never answered the question, douche.

Why would a particular Senator have to vote FOR something that he knew was going to pass?

But to add further intrigue, why would he have to vote FOR something that had already existed for seven years.

For someone who worked in Washington you sure are stupid as to how it works.

war  posted on  2011-06-30   18:43:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#13)

You never answered the question, douche.

Why would a particular Senator have to vote FOR something that he knew was going to pass?

Not only are you making things up, you are being stupid about it. You clearly stated that Obama signed the stimulus to appease Republicans (without any evidence of such). Then you tried to say he did it to coax Kansas Senators who never voted for it. In fact, the three GOP Senators who did sign it were Collins, Snow, and Spectre, who didn't need to be coaxed. Having made a dumbass of yourself over those arguments, you move on to "it was initiated 7 years earlier anyway.

Just admit you are FOS.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-01   8:13:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: no gnu taxes (#19)

You clearly stated that Obama signed the stimulus to appease Republicans

Either ping me to that post where I so stated or admit that you just outright lied.

A) What I stated was this: This was a GOP ornament that was put on to the stim Chirstmas Tree so that it could pass.

And this:

B) Yes he did[need GOP votes to get the stim passed].

Dems had only 59 votes. Franken hadn't been seated yet.

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In the case of "A", to avoid a filibuster the stim HAD to have "pet" programs either sustained, expanded or put in. Had Obama not agreed to such then the bill would have never gotten to - which brings us to "B" - CLOTURE which requires 60 votes. He needed GOP votes FOR CLOTURE. So, not only did he AGREE to keep those breaks he AGREED to have them folded into the accelerated depreciation schedule that the stim provided.

You look pretty odd calling me stupid when you look so dumb.

No wonder Ron Paul fired your ass.

war  posted on  2011-07-01   8:42:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#20)

What I stated was this: This was a GOP ornament that was put on to the stimuls Chirstmas Tree so that it could pass.

Provide evidence of such or admit you are full of shit. 3 GOP Senators were going to vote for it anyway.

Prove any of the 3 Senators who did sign did so because of the jets tax break or admit you are full of shit.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-01   8:57:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: no gnu taxes (#21)

I'm sorry...did you PING me to that post in which you claim I stated that Obama signed the stim to appease the GOP?

Fuck off, Paddy. Brownback was going to filibuster the stim if that provision was stripped out.

And now you admit that he needed GOP votes for the stim?

What a fucking liar you are.

war  posted on  2011-07-01 10:04:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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