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Title: Bachmann, Palin should just admit gaffes, then move on
Source: Chicago Sun Times
URL Source: http://www.suntimes.com/news/roeper ... admit-gaffes-then-move-on.html
Published: Jun 30, 2011
Author: Richard Roeper
Post Date: 2011-06-30 11:37:30 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 28193
Comments: 65

It’s the scramble-back that makes you look insecure, stubborn and not all that bright.

Does it really matter that Michele Bachmann got her John Waynes mixed up and said she shared a hometown with John Wayne when in fact it was John Wayne Gacy?

“John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That’s the kind of spirit that I have, too.”

In fact, it was John Wayne Gacy who lived in Waterloo, whereas John Wayne, the actor, was born about 150 miles away, in the Iowa town of Winterset.

Not a sane person in the world jumped on the gaffe to say, “Oh my God, she’s trying to align herself with the Killer Clown!” But the mainstream-lamestream media pounced on the gaffe with unbridled glee, just as they did when Sarah Palin couldn’t name the periodicals she consumed.

The day after Bachmann’s verbal misstep, she appeared on CNN and said, “People can make mistakes and I wish I could be perfect every time I say something, but I can’t.”

Not a bad way to deflect the minor distraction. But Bachmann didn’t stop there. She opted for the scramble-back defense, in which the candidate and the candidate’s team scramble back, huddle up and scour the Internet for research that kinda-sorta backs up an erroneous claim.

“John Wayne’s parents’ first home was in Waterloo, Iowa, and he was from Iowa,” said Bachmann.

Um, OK.

This is the same sort of scramble-back tactic employed by Sarah Palin after Palin said Paul Revere “warned the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms by ringing those bells and making sure he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed.”

Of course, Palin meant Revere warned the American colonists, not the British — and the rest of those ad-libbed comments hardly consist of rock-solid history — but it’s not the blunder of all time. It’s not as if Palin had said Paul Revere “not only warned the British but was a member of the greatest rock and roll band of the Sixties, Paul Revere and the Raiders.”

But instead of correcting the record, Palin scrambled back and came out sounding as if she’d just emerged from an all-night study session with a high school history teacher.

“I didn’t mess up about Paul Revere,” she said. “Here’s what Paul Revere did. He warned the Americans that the British were coming. Part of his ride was to warn the British that were there that ‘hey, you’re not gonna succeed.’ ”

Countered James Cross Giblin, author of The Many Rides of Paul Revere, in an interview on ABC News: “She was basically wrong. . . . His mission certainly was not to warn the British. It was to get the message to the revolutionaries in Concord.”

Asked if Palin did not get the basic facts right, Giblin replied, “No she did not.”

Some Palin fans even tried to revise history on Wikipedia. Better to alter the facts than to admit our gal is wrong!

Now that’s a real scramble-back.

A founding youngster?

When ABC’s George Stephanopoulos challenged Michele Bachmann’s claim that the Founding Fathers “worked tirelessly to end slavery” and noted that “Jefferson and Washington were slaveholders and slavery didn’t end until the Civil War,” Bachmann countered that John Quincy Adams “tirelessly worked throughout his life to make sure we did in fact one day eradicate slavery.”

Not a good scramble-back, considering John Quincy Adams wasn’t one of the Founding Fathers and was all of 9 years old when the Revolutionary War began.

When Barack Obama made his infamous “57 states” gaffe in 2008, he owned up and made fun of himself later the very same day, noting, “I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, um . . . ”

It was better for Obama to just admit the mistake than to scramble back and say, “Look, there ARE 57 states. We have the 50 states, plus we’re in a state of confusion, a state of anguish, a state of concern, a state of uncertainty, a state of economic crisis — but also a state of hope and a state of change, and I state right now I’m gonna bring that hope and change to America!”

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#1. To: no gnu taxes, (#0)

When Barack Obama made his infamous “57 states” gaffe in 2008, he owned up and made fun of himself later the very same day, noting, “I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, um . . . ”

It was better for Obama to just admit the mistake than to scramble back and say, “Look, there ARE 57 states. We have the 50 states, plus we’re in a state of confusion, a state of anguish, a state of concern, a state of uncertainty, a state of economic crisis — but also a state of hope and a state of change, and I state right now I’m gonna bring that hope and change to America!”

That's how you handle it.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-06-30   11:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

He's a dumbass.

Now, I know Iā€™m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā€¦those who read all of Reverend Alā€™s sermons, and say things like, ā€œYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā€¦ā€. Can I get an ā€˜amenā€™??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-30   11:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#0)

CAT FIGHT!!!

Can you imagine if Palin and Bachmann collaborated on a book of US history?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   11:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#1)

So has the idiot apologized for all these dumbass moments, too?

“The Bomb” that fell on Pearl Harbor

“The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries.”

10,000 People (A Whole Town!) Died in Kansas ~ Oops, Overstated by 9,988

Admits His Plan would Necessarily Cause Energy Prices to Skyrocket

Air Raiding Villages a la Yankee Air Pirates: Destroys Whole Afghan Villages!

ATMs Cause Unemployment

Blames Hugo Chavez’s Election on (ta da) BUSH! Oops.

Blows off the Salute To Heroes (MOH) Inaugural Ball

Botched Toast ~ Babbles over “God Save The Queen”

Bowls like a Special Olympian

Bows to the Chicom President

Bows to the Emperor of Japan

Bows to the Saudi King

Burns up 9,000 gallons of Jet Fuel on Earth Day

Can’t Keep MOH Recipients Straight

Confuses “his” Christianity for “his Muslim faith”

Cops Acted Stupidly (@ 1:30)

Date Nights at a Quarter of a Million a Pop

Did He REALLY just call Palin a "Pig"??????

Disrespects the Flag and the National Anthem

Doesn't Know How Old His Daughter Is

Exaggerates about Military Small Unit Methods, Weapons, and Tactics in Afghanistan

Expects to be President for “Eight to Ten Years”

Faux White Sox Fan Can't Name Favorite Players, Loves "Cominskey" Park

Flippantly Answers the "When Does Life Begin" Question ~ Above His Pay Grade

Forgot to Duck ~ Too Busy Waving

Gins up the Reason for his Birth In Selma (Bonus…Jive Accent)

Gives the Queen an iPod

Gives Thoughtless Gifts to Brit PM Brown and his Children

Had an Imaginary Assignment to the Senate Banking Committee

Had an Uncle who Liberated Auschwitz

Has Visited 57 States

Harvard Degree ~ Mechanical Engineering? No, Definitely NOT!

Hates Old People

Identifies a Whole New State (Eau Claire)

If I Can't Dazzle Them With Brilliance, I'll Baffle 'em With BS

Inhaled Frequently. That was the Point.

Israel is a Strong Friend of Israel’s ~ Whilst being Perfectly Clear

Makes a Nasty Joke about Nancy Reagan and Seances

Medical Genius (Off Prompter)

Mistakes a Window for a Door

Mocks Joe the Plumber

Navy Corpse Man

Oaf of Office

Ogles La Derriere Like a Frenchman

Oh Wait…Robots Create Jobs with Unions (@ 1:35)

Pitches Like a Girl Whilst Wearing Mom Jeans....Wheeeee!!!!!

Refused to Visit the Troops Because No Media Was Allowed

Scares the Crap out of New Yorkers

Scares a Marine Guard by Shaking His Hand

Screw Our Allies ~ I'm going with Hugo and Ortega on This One

Seeks Greater Inefficiencies in the Health Care System via Obamacare

Sees Dead People

Signs the Wrong Year in Guest Book at Westminster Abbey

Snubs Brits by Returning the Bust of Winston Churchill

Someone Waging a KMA can’t Spell “Libya” (h/t our own Warner Todd Houston)

Staff Incompetence ~ Obama’s Limo Gets Stuck

Thinks “Victory” is a 4 Letter Word

Thinks Austrian is a Language

Throws Out the Honored Guest with the Trash

We are the Ones We've Been Waiting For

When in Ireland, Do as the Irish Do....NO WAIT....BYOB (non-alcoholic)

Will Halt The Rise of the Oceans

Wouldn't "Punish" His Daughters with a Baby AND Equates Pregnancy to an STD

You Might be a Filthy Rich Cretin If....Oh Never Mind, the Math Doesn't Really Work

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. A partial list of The Stupidity That is Obama.

http://newsbusters.org/forum/topic-discussion/handy-reference-guide-obama039s-gaffes-and-goofs

Now, I know Iā€™m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā€¦those who read all of Reverend Alā€™s sermons, and say things like, ā€œYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā€¦ā€. Can I get an ā€˜amenā€™??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-30   11:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: no gnu taxes (#4)

I don't see any need for him to apologize for the spin of others, but when he does make an actual mistake, he is quick to admit it and apologize for it; unlike Palin & Bachmann.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-06-30   12:06:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#5)

I don't see any need for him to apologize for the spin of others, but when he does make an actual mistake, he is quick to admit it and apologize for it; unlike Palin & Bachmann.

Carlin:

There's a Big Club and you're not in it.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

I KNEW Strauss Kahn wouldn't go to jail. Die maybe. Not Jail.

Cause the ELITE don't go to jail. The ELite Fail-WAY TO GO BROWNIE--and move up to their nect assignment.

IN WWI Imperial Russia made the serfs get off the train and march the Final 25 miles to the Front. To get them into shape.

9-11 and 7/7 were False Flags to make you serfs understand your place...

Now GET BACK TO WORK.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-01   8:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

I KNEW Strauss Kahn wouldn't go to jail. Die maybe. Not Jail.

I just saw some news coverage about him. Implying the maid might be 'dirty'.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-01   9:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

I KNEW Strauss Kahn wouldn't go to jail. Cause the ELITE don't go to jail.

He DID go to jail. He spent a week at Rikers Island. I'm pretty sure they don't cater French rapists there either.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-01   9:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Fred Mertz (#7)

I just saw some news coverage about him. Implying the maid might be 'dirty'.

Again, the maid's account of what happened has never waivered.

Just how did DSK's semen get on the maid.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-02   10:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Thunderbird (#8)

He DID go to jail. He spent a week at Rikers Island. I'm pretty sure they don't cater French rapists there either.

A drunk tank sentence.

Isolated. What. For a week? I guess that's major for the Top 50 000.

Time served?

And what about DSK's sordid Room Service history. Sounds like the President of Israel antics.

But that's not admissible.

The Maid's life away from the hotel is?

Her account of how DSK's sperm got on her is the story.

There's a Big Club. And you and I aren't in it.

If this stands then future Hotel Maid Responses to rape should be:

1) Don't let the rapist get out of the room alive. 2) Maid's should be issued pepper spray. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-02   10:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mcgowanjm (#10)

Considering that the "maid" is a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-02   10:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war, go65 (#3)

Can you imagine if Palin and Bachmann collaborated on a book of US history?

Here is a cutie for ya.... tell me if you remember where it came from:

"Now, children, I want you all to sit up just as straight and pretty as you can and give me all your attention for a minute or two. There -- that is it. That is the way good little boys and girls should do. I see one little girl who is looking out of the window -- I am afraid she thinks I am out there somewhere -- perhaps up in one of the trees making a speech to the little birds. [Applausive titter.] I want to tell you how good it makes me feel to see so many bright, clean little faces assembled in a place like this, learning to do right and be good." And so forth and so on. It is not necessary to set down the rest of the oration. It was of a pattern which does not vary, and so it is familiar to us all.

The latter third of the speech was marred by the resumption of fights and other recreations among certain of the bad boys, and by fidgetings and whisperings that extended far and wide, washing even to the bases of isolated and incorruptible rocks like Sid and Mary. But now every sound ceased suddenly, with the subsidence of Mr. Walters' voice, and the conclusion of the speech was received with a burst of silent gratitude.

A good part of the whispering had been occasioned by an event which was more or less rare -- the entrance of visitors: lawyer Thatcher, accompanied by a very feeble and aged man; a fine, portly, middle-aged gentleman with iron-gray hair; and a dignified lady who was doubtless the latter's wife. The lady was leading a child. Tom had been restless and full of chafings and repinings; conscience-smitten, too -- he could not meet Amy Lawrence's eye, he could not brook her loving gaze. But when he saw this small new-comer his soul was all ablaze with bliss in a moment. The next moment he was "showing off" with all his might -- cuffing boys, pulling hair, making faces -- in a word, using every art that seemed likely to fascinate a girl and win her applause. His exaltation had but one alloy -- the memory of his humiliation in this angel's garden -- and that record in sand was fast washing out, under the waves of happiness that were sweeping over it now.

The visitors were given the highest seat of honor, and as soon as Mr. Walters' speech was finished, he introduced them to the school. The middle-aged man turned out to be a prodigious personage -- no less a one than the county judge -- altogether the most august creation these children had ever looked upon -- and they wondered what kind of material he was made of -- and they half wanted to hear him roar, and were half afraid he might, too. He was from Constantinople, twelve miles away -- so he had travelled, and seen the world -- these very eyes had looked upon the county court-house -- which was said to have a tin roof. The awe which these reflections inspired was attested by the impressive silence and the ranks of staring eyes. This was the great Judge Thatcher, brother of their own lawyer. Jeff Thatcher immediately went forward, to be familiar with the great man and be envied by the school. It would have been music to his soul to hear the whisperings:

"Look at him, Jim! He's a going up there. Say -- look! he's a going to shake hands with him -- he is shaking hands with him! By jings, don't you wish you was Jeff?"

Mr. Walters fell to "showing off," with all sorts of official bustlings and activities, giving orders, delivering judgments, discharging directions here, there, everywhere that he could find a target. The librarian "showed off" -- running hither and thither with his arms full of books and making a deal of the splutter and fuss that insect authority delights in. The young lady teachers "showed off" -- bending sweetly over pupils that were lately being boxed, lifting pretty warning fingers at bad little boys and patting good ones lovingly. The young gentlemen teachers "showed off" with small scoldings and other little displays of authority and fine attention to discipline -- and most of the teachers, of both sexes, found business up at the library, by the pulpit; and it was business that frequently had to be done over again two or three times (with much seeming vexation). The little girls "showed off" in various ways, and the little boys "showed off" with such diligence that the air was thick with paper wads and the murmur of scufflings. And above it all the great man sat and beamed a majestic judicial smile upon all the house, and warmed himself in the sun of his own grandeur -- for he was "showing off," too.

There was only one thing wanting to make Mr. Walters' ecstasy complete, and that was a chance to deliver a Bible-prize and exhibit a prodigy. Several pupils had a few yellow tickets, but none had enough -- he had been around among the star pupils inquiring. He would have given worlds, now, to have that German lad back again with a sound mind.

And now at this moment, when hope was dead, Tom Sawyer came forward with nine yellow tickets, nine red tickets, and ten blue ones, and demanded a Bible. This was a thunderbolt out of a clear sky. Walters was not expecting an application from this source for the next ten years. But there was no getting around it -- here were the certified checks, and they were good for their face. Tom was therefore elevated to a place with the Judge and the other elect, and the great news was announced from headquarters. It was the most stunning surprise of the decade, and so profound was the sensation that it lifted the new hero up to the judicial one's altitude, and the school had two marvels to gaze upon in place of one. The boys were all eaten up with envy -- but those that suffered the bitterest pangs were those who perceived too late that they themselves had contributed to this hated splendor by trading tickets to Tom for the wealth he had amassed in selling whitewashing privileges. These despised themselves, as being the dupes of a wily fraud, a guileful snake in the grass.

The prize was delivered to Tom with as much effusion as the superintendent could pump up under the circumstances; but it lacked somewhat of the true gush, for the poor fellow's instinct taught him that there was a mystery here that could not well bear the light, perhaps; it was simply preposterous that this boy had warehoused two thousand sheaves of Scriptural wisdom on his premises -- a dozen would strain his capacity, without a doubt.

Amy Lawrence was proud and glad, and she tried to make Tom see it in her face -- but he wouldn't look. She wondered; then she was just a grain troubled; next a dim suspicion came and went -- came again; she watched; a furtive glance told her worlds -- and then her heart broke, and she was jealous, and angry, and the tears came and she hated everybody. Tom most of all (she thought).

Tom was introduced to the Judge; but his tongue was tied, his breath would hardly come, his heart quaked -- partly because of the awful greatness of the man, but mainly because he was her parent. He would have liked to fall down and worship him, if it were in the dark. The Judge put his hand on Tom's head and called him a fine little man, and asked him what his name was. The boy stammered, gasped, and got it out:

"Tom."

"Oh, no, not Tom -- it is --"

"Thomas."

"Ah, that's it. I thought there was more to it, maybe. That's very well. But you've another one I daresay, and you'll tell it to me, won't you?"

"Tell the gentleman your other name, Thomas," said Walters, "and say sir. You mustn't forget your manners."

"Thomas Sawyer -- sir."

"That's it! That's a good boy. Fine boy. Fine, manly little fellow. Two thousand verses is a great many -- very, very great many. And you never can be sorry for the trouble you took to learn them; for knowledge is worth more than anything there is in the world; it's what makes great men and good men; you'll be a great man and a good man yourself, some day, Thomas, and then you'll look back and say, It's all owing to the precious Sunday-school privileges of my boyhood -- it's all owing to my dear teachers that taught me to learn -- it's all owing to the good superintendent, who encouraged me, and watched over me, and gave me a beautiful Bible -- a splendid elegant Bible -- to keep and have it all for my own, always -- it's all owing to right bringing up! That is what you will say, Thomas -- and you wouldn't take any money for those two thousand verses -- no indeed you wouldn't. And now you wouldn't mind telling me and this lady some of the things you've learned -- no, I know you wouldn't -- for we are proud of little boys that learn. Now, no doubt you know the names of all the twelve disciples. Won't you tell us the names of the first two that were appointed?"

Tom was tugging at a button-hole and looking sheepish. He blushed, now, and his eyes fell. Mr. Walters' heart sank within him. He said to himself, it is not possible that the boy can answer the simplest question -- why did the Judge ask him? Yet he felt obliged to speak up and say:

"Answer the gentleman, Thomas -- don't be afraid."

Tom still hung fire.

"Now I know you'll tell me," said the lady. "The names of the first two disciples were --"

"David and Goliah!"

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-02   11:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#12)

Ha...great stuff...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-02   12:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Thunderbird (#11) (Edited)

Considering that the "maid" is a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive.

Again, and more so now that you;ve come forward with that 'explanation':

Is it possible to rape a prostitute?

" 2.

Frankly, the clumsiness of the collapse of the victim/witness points clearly to a DP* rather than the TOAOF. If it was a TOAOF* set-up, the witness would have been instructed to avoid questionable phone calls with iffy people, and in particular to avoid discussing the inevitable civil suit (btw, are women with questionable friends unrape-able? in the ultra-litigious USA, is discussing the inevitable civil suit grounds for impugning the entire testimony?). On the other hand, this kind of behavior is what you would expect from somebody with an interest in having the Strauss-Kahn case thrown out. The alleged inconsistencies in the victim's statements seem explainable, and largely irrelevant, and are thrown in just to further weaken her credibility.

Remember that Strauss-Kahn phoned his lawyer, and then presumably on legal advice made a bee-line for the airport to flee the jurisdiction, and would have escaped had he not phoned back to the hotel for his cell phone, thus identifying his location to the authorities.

* 1. the Theory of All of France (TOAOF), that the whole thing was a set-up intended to remove Strauss-Kahn from leading the IMF at such a delicate time, and preventing him from taking over from Sarko in the French elections; or

2. the Dershowitz Protocol (DP), paying off the overseas family of the victim so she would find a way to impugn her own evidence.

There's a Big Club, about 50 000, and you and I aren't in it. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-02   12:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Thunderbird, All (#11)

a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive.

And further, now you're assured that the Maid IS a prostitute and that she's a "Pathological" liar.

So Only Truth telling Saints, preferrably millionaires, should ever apply for redress of grievances in the good ole' USA.

Double Standards R US.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-02   12:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mcgowanjm (#15)

And billionaires...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-02   12:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#16)

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-02   12:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Thunderbird (#11)

Considering that the "maid" is a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive.

I would hope a manager of so much money would show a little more prudent behavior then just jumping in bed with whoever's convenient.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-02   13:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mcgowanjm (#15)

So Only Truth telling Saints, preferrably millionaires, should ever apply for redress of grievances in the good ole' USA.

The veracity of Strauss-Kahn isn't at issue here, its his accuser who was lying under oath.

Double Standards R US.

So far the only standard that I see being applied is the one that says when you lie to a grand jury and get impeached you're pretty much done.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-02   16:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#18) (Edited)

I would hope a manager of so much money would show a little more prudent behavior then just jumping in bed with whoever's convenient.

I don't disagree, but it also seems likely that Strauss-Kahn paid for sex with the maid and perhaps got a little rough with her when she didn't perform to his expectation.

If this arrangment had been made known to the police beforehand, I doubt he would have been arrested, much less held for a week on Rikers Island without bail.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-02   16:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Thunderbird (#19)

The veracity of Strauss-Kahn isn't at issue here

OOOHHHHH YES IT IS.

The head of the raping/pillaging, never running out of money to give onerous laons that can and are called in at the worst possible times.

OOOHHH yes it is.

The muther fucker's bveen traveling the world thinking that Maid Service includes free Blow Jobs....

muther fucker...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-03   9:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Thunderbird (#20)

I don't disagree, but it also seems likely that Strauss-Kahn paid for sex with the maid and perhaps got a little rough with her when she didn't perform to his expectation.

And THAT"S just mad eup on the fly Bull Shit.

The Maid's Story of the attack has never waivered.

And what 'arrangement'?

That DSK promised not to come in her mouth?

How exactly are those arrangements carried out, TB.

How do you proposition the maid?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-03   10:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mininggold (#18)

Considering that the "maid" is a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive.

I would hope a manager of so much money would show a little more prudent behavior then just jumping in bed with whoever's convenient.

And see, MG, you're already defining the case in DSK's favor.

I'm DSK and your the defense? I'm already looking forward to checking into the next hotel for my Maid Service.

The maid was raped.

Just like the IMF rapes the world. Cause we deserve it. LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-03   10:02:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23)

And that was the maid's mistake.

She turned down the first lawyer who wanted to make the case of the IMF raping the world just like the maid.

And I look forward to the next time we see an IMF Post over there in the Blue Box.

I bet the IMF has never had it's very own thread....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-03   10:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mcgowanjm (#22)

The Maid's Story of the attack has never waivered.

False.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-03   11:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mcgowanjm (#23)

And see, MG, you're already defining the case in DSK's favor.

That first line of quote wasn't mine.

I see the guy as a total jerk wad who needs to be in jail if only for being dishonest about his qualifications for his job.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-03   12:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mininggold (#26)

And see, MG, you're already defining the case in DSK's favor.

That first line of quote wasn't mine.

I see the guy as a total jerk wad who needs to be in jail if only for being dishonest about his qualifications for his job.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-04   8:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Thunderbird (#25)

The Maid's Story of the attack has never waivered.

True.

And where did that semen come from.

And how Does a multimillionaire approach a third world maid for consensual sex.

Is it the same way he rapes the maid's home country?

"http://www.cps-news.com/wp-content/misc_pdfs/Citigroup_Plutonomy_Part_1_Oct162005.pdf

http://www.cps-news.com/wp-content/misc_pdfs/Citigroup_Plutonomy_Part_2_Mar52006.pdf

The second one took a very long time to download, but it's there. Update on Monday, May 30, 2011 at 03:34PM by Registered CommenterSkeptic

Picking up on the advice in the plutonomy memos, advertisers are being urged to give up on the middle class and target the 1-2% with the highest incomes because the middle class can no longer afford much of what they are selling. Sam Pizzigoti discusses and links to the recent Ad Age story, with this lede:

The American middle class, concludes a new study from the ad industry’s top trade journal, has essentially become irrelevant. In a deeply unequal America, if you’re over 35 and your income hasn’t yet topped $200,000 a year, you don’t matter.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-04   8:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mcgowanjm (#28)

The maid LIED to the grand jury about details of the rape incident .

The maid LIED about being raped before.

The maid has been involved in scams since the day she was brought to the United States.

Game over.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-04   8:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Thunderbird (#29)

The maid LIED to the grand jury about details of the rape incident .

Got a transcript?

Cause her lawyer says she didn't.

But you believe the talking heads who breathlessly reported that.

And strausskahn lied about rape before...

So I guess we're just going to have a trial to find out who lied less, eh?

And again-Can a prostitute be raped in the US?

How did semen get all over the room and the maid?

How does the head of the raping/pillaging IMF propose to the maid?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   8:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Thunderbird (#29)

The maid has been involved in scams since the day she was brought to the United States.

Game over.

The former head of the IMF has been involved in scams since the day he was inherited his fortune.

Game over.

It's a Big Club and you and I aren't in it.

German privatisation agency poor model for Greece

BBC News Reuters - 22 hours ago Under its EU/IMF bailout programme, Athens is supposed to sell a state asset every 10 days on average. Fichtner at DIW said he hopes the Greek sell-off will ... 292 related articles Greek sell-off 'threat to sovereignty'46; - The Guardian Greece must sell-off assets East German-style46; - Telegraph.co.uk More news for imf sells off greece »

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   8:53:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mininggold (#26)

I see the guy as a total jerk wad who needs to be in jail if only for being dishonest about his qualifications for his job.

Obama clearly isn't qualified to be president, much less pick dogshit up from my yard. So i'm sure you would agree Obama should be put in jail too? Yes?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-05   9:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mcgowanjm (#30) (Edited)

Got a transcript?

Cause her lawyer says she didn't.

Who cares what her lawyer says...the District Attorney produced the esculpatory evidence as required by law. Barring any new developments, the case against Strauss-Kahn will be dropped July 18th ...and if justice is served, the African hooker maid will be deported July 19th.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   9:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#32)

You're not defending stausskahn, are you, AK?

knowing that he's raped before?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   9:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mcgowanjm (#34)

You're not defending stausskahn, are you, AK?

knowing that he's raped before?

Not following the case to closely. I was just commenting on what mininggold said.

So he has raped before huh? Where at and who? How long did he go to jail? When did he get out?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-05   9:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Thunderbird (#33)

Who cares what her lawyer says...

But stausskahn's lawyere is your only source.

So....you belive the MultiBillionarie's lawyer cause everyone knows these guys are saints.

But the minority maid who had strausskahn's semen all over her and the room...her lawyer...no.

Double standards. See, this is how revolutions start. the Aristocracy has no clue on the living conditions of the Bottom 90%...

See Kate&William Tour of their Empire for details...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   9:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#35)

So he has raped before huh? Where at and who? How long did he go to jail? When did he get out?

Google it.

Hungarian maid.

IMF strausskahn rape scandal.

And like incrimating the USSA and their EMpire, it's tough to bring these tyrants down.

But down they go, everyone and always....8D

Like the President of Israel rape. and conviction. Did you hear about that?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   9:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: All (#37)

Did you see the photo of Poppy Bush in front of the Texas Book Depository hours after JFK shot?

And then have Poppy deny up until about 5 years ago that he was EVER in Dallas that day?

Same shit.

Ken Lay?

Can you name One billionaire who's ever gone to jail?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   9:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#35)

Female employee previously warned about IMF head - Worldnews.com article.wn.com/.../Female_employee_previously_warned_about_IM... - Cached May 17, 2011 – ... Monetary Fund employee, Hungarian-born economist Piroska Nagy. ... Nagy, who had worked at the IMF for decades, left the organization after the affair with. ... An IMF-funded investigation into the affair cleared Strauss-Kahn of ... IMF boss' lawyers set to claim New York hotel maid gave in . ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   9:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: All (#39)

Here you go.

And this from a street rag tr ying to defend DSK's sorry ass!!!8D:

# # Rumors of philandering and accusations of rape and/or general sleaziness have dogged Strauss-Kahn for years. In 2007, the journalist Tristane Banon claimed Strauss-Kahn tried to rape her in 2002. In 2008, he was found to be having an affair — apparently consensual — with a Hungarian economist at the IMF. He was allowed to keep his job, however, because it was not determined that he’d abused his authority. Also in 2008, French politician Aurélie Filipetti said Strauss-Kahn had groped her and that she would “forever make sure” she was never “alone in a room with him.” (Scary.) There is also an entire chapter devoted to Strauss-Kahn in a book called Sexus Politicus, written by two French journalists, about the sexual behavior of politicians. [New York Times] UPDATE: Oh, look, another sketchy story: a 2010 book published in France called DSK: Secrets of a Presidential Contender also claims Strauss-Kahn raped a maid while in Mexico on a business trip, possibly in 2006 or 2010. [Guanabee]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   9:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All (#40)

A local official of the Socialist party claimed that Strauss-Kahn had attacked her daughter, who is goddaughter to Strauss-Kahn's second wife, in 2002.

Tristane Banon was in her 20s and writing a book when she approached Strauss-Kahn for an interview in 2002. In a TV programme in 2007, in which Strauss-Kahn's name had been bleeped out, Banon allegedly described him as a "rutting chimpanzee" and described how she was forced to fight him off. "It finished badly … very violently … I kicked him," Banon said. "When we were fighting, I mentioned the word 'rape' to make him afraid, but it didn't have any effect. I managed to get out."

Banon consulted a lawyer, but did not press charges. "I didn't want to be known to the end of my days as the girl who had a problem with the politician."

Banon's mother, Anne Mansouret, told journalists on Sunday night she had dissuaded her daughter from legal action because she believed Strauss-Kahn's behaviour had been out of character and because of close links with his family. "Today I am sorry to have discouraged my daughter from complaining. I bear a heavy responsibility," she said.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   9:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: mcgowanjm (#38)

Did you see the photo of Poppy Bush in front of the Texas Book Depository hours after JFK shot?

I've seen the picture. It may or may not be him. I'm not sure.

I've heard that poppy did give conflicting accounts of where he was when JFK was shot.

One was in Readers Digest I think.

Do you have any info on that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-05   10:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mcgowanjm (#41)

...Banon allegedly described him as a "rutting chimpanzee" and described how she was forced to fight him off.

I've never seen a rutting chimpanzee and I hope I never do.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-05   10:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: mcgowanjm (#36)

But stausskahn's lawyere is your only source.

The NYC DISTRICT ATTORNEY produced the escuptatory evidence J.Edger... not DSK's lawyer.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   10:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Thunderbird (#44)

The NYC DISTRICT ATTORNEY produced the escuptatory evidence J.Edger... not DSK's lawyer.

So you are in the middle of this.

I'll need that transcript now.

'...and then the sperm flew everywhere'

LMFAO come on....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   10:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Fred Mertz (#43)

I've never seen a rutting chimpanzee and I hope I never do.

O sure you heve, Fred.

The Discovery Channel?

They're crazy nuts...just like every horny male on the planet....LMFAO

And that's the problem here. Everyone knows EXACTLY how Straaus Kahn acted.

The Power Play, and make no mistake, this was power first, sex second...

Just like the IMF and now Greece. Bend over, on your knees. Don't fight. Accept it...yeah that's it... And don't bite....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   10:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#42)

I've seen the picture. It may or may not be him. I'm not sure.

Sure it is.

That's a fucking Bush. I've grown up watching Bush's strike that pose.

As the Bush Family Empire celebrates Nov 22.

The Day they became the royalty of the USSA...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   10:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#42)

Do you have any info on that?

The Patrician, Elitist Corruption of the Bush Dynasty and Where ... www.buzzflash.com/articles/interviews/140 - CachedSimilar Dec 30, 2008 – What I do is begin with the curious fact that G.H.W. Bush has said he could not remember where he was on November 22, 1963. ...

All you need to know.

Who doesn't remember where they were when finding out JFK was shot.

Everyone I've talked to knew exactly. Hell, I was only 7 and I remember my Dad telling us to be quiet. ;}

Same with bush43. Who sits there looking like a mental monkey after being told the second plane has crashed and all the reporters' beeprers are going off....

the guilty that's who...8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   10:36:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mcgowanjm (#45)

I'll need that transcript now.

The only 'transcript' you need to read is the one where the African hooker-maid calls her illegal drug-dealer 'boyfriend' in prison and spills the beans in her native language.

That 'transcript' should be available in a couple of weeks...

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   10:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Thunderbird (#49)

The only 'transcript' you need to read is the one where the African hooker-maid calls her illegal drug-dealer 'boyfriend' in prison and spills the beans in her native language.

And thank you.

You've got nothing but the Defense Lawyer motions.

# Rape and Sexual Assault www.musc.edu/vawprevention/research/sa.shtml - CachedSimilar Crime in the United States, Uniform Crime Reports, 1997, p.26. ... More than 52 percent of all rape/sexual assault victims were females younger than 25. ... year suggests that efforts to prevent rape have not been entirely successful. ... # Rape statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics - CachedSimilar According to the 2009 United States National Crime Victimization Survey estimates, ... 75 and 95 per cent of rape crimes are never reported to the police. ... # Rape in the Ranks, the U.S. Army's Dirty Secret | The Global Realm theglobalrealm.com/.../rape-in-the-ranks-the-u-s-armys-dirty-secret/ - Cached

Make me the gad damned lawyer. I'll put the mutherfucker away for life....8D

And of course we don't know the age of the maid.

Put Casey Anthony's lawyer on the case....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   10:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Thunderbird (#49)

That 'transcript' should be available in a couple of weeks...

And again...

Damage done now.

Two weeks from now is ancient news...

The lawywer's overwhelmed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   10:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#32)

Obama clearly isn't qualified to be president, much less pick dogshit up from my yard. So i'm sure you would agree Obama should be put in jail too? Yes?

Only if and when he posts a picture of a dead baby being eaten in a restaurant, otherwise your OCD has you off topic again.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-05   10:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mcgowanjm (#51)

Two weeks from now is ancient news...

Two weeks from now the case will be dismissed and the African BJ queen will be deported.

The only person who seems overwhelmed by this is...you.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   10:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Thunderbird (#53) (Edited)

Two weeks from now the case will be dismissed and the African BJ queen will be deported.

And again....Thank you.

OF course he'll skate. Who ever thought different. That or he'd be dead like Ken Lay. See the Rich don't go to jail. They know too much...

This is Planet Hell.

We are ruled by Psychopaths.

And the Gods aren't very nice.

LMFAO Yeah, that's the way the psycho's work.

"The only person who seems overwhelmed by this is...you."

Isolate. I'm in the minority. Resistance is Futile. 8D

Except it's not. For as long as just one person.

The Ultmiate Minority refuses to acquiesce with Evil. Evil can not stand.

LMFAO Side with the Top 50 000 mutherfucker.

Think they'll throw you some crumbs?

Reality is the Universe. The Universe is Altruistic.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   11:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: All (#54)

The 4th of July

SerfDom Day

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   11:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Thunderbird (#53)

The Elite Are Not Even Trying To Hide How Much They Hate The U.S. Constitution Anymore

See StraussKahn for details

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   11:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: go65 (#0)

Barack Obama - Gaffe Mania I - Dumber than Dumb

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-07-05   11:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mcgowanjm (#54)

Kooky.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   12:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Thunderbird (#58)

Kooky.

yep. And that's a nice way of describing the psychos.

All the safe guards are gone.

Imagine the number of slave holders who used this very same tactic. All the way back to when 'civilization' was born.

Discredit. Then Deport. Witness not available your honor.

When you see the palace guards are gone, you'll have seconds to get out.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   12:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Thunderbird, All (#58)

And speaking of Kooky:

"It was only last week when rumors that Italy's Finance Minister Giulio Tremonti was about to step down due to irreconcilable difference with the man who puts DSK's (alleged) sexual exploits to shame, pushed down Italian bank stocks. Today, The Guardian picks up where last week left off, and brings us the following scene from a real life version of The Office, wherein we learn that Tremonti, who now is hated in Italy and will soon join the Greek Finance Minister in being the target of a massive scapegoating campaign that will likely end in his termination, has just threatened to quit if calls for his resignation don't subside. Yes, it didn't make much sense to us either but whatever."

All these Banksters are the same.

Hello there, fat ugly toad. I've got ten minutes for a break. Would you like for me to get on my knees so you can put your dick in my mouth and cum?

O, you're so sexy.

Now THAT's kooky. LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   12:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: All (#60)

The way things are going, I'm expecting to see that the victim in the DSK case was behind the attack on the World Trade Center.

Did you notice that all the wild leaks are coming from an anonymous source within the prosecutor's office? Did DSK have inside help all along?

I'm wondering in particular how the prosecution found discrepancies in all sorts of irrelevant material that you would think would not have been brought up.

The main conspiracy theory is that DSK was removed to prevent him from protecting the Greeks from the predations of the Germans and their own government, but it is highly unlikely that he would have done anything to help the Greek people. It is far more likely that the attack came from Sarko, and was about French politics.

I think the ugly toad just fucked up...I don't believe the 'politics' thing cause DSK's the perfect opposition.

Like Amerika, the Top 50 000 can't lose.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   13:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Happy Quanzaa (#57)

Nice video.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-05   13:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: mcgowanjm (#60)

Now THAT's kooky.

That you get into character like that and role play?

Yes it is.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   13:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Thunderbird (#63)

Now THAT's kooky.

That you get into character like that and role play?

Yes it is.

Like an Israeli:

Clever but stupid....;}

" Do you, too, sense the dread abiding in our annual celebration of national wonderfulness? Outside today's barbeque bubble the dark shapes of wild events loom, exciting primal fears of unresolved woe and travail. Yesterday, I saw a man on a back street of a small town with spider webs tattooed on his elbows and a screaming skull on the back of his neck.

America, meet your new normal: a citizenry of exterminating angels.

Our political exertions mean nothing to them. They think Ronald Reagan was the offspring of John Wayne and Minnie Mouse and the House of representatives is a reality TV show about home improvement. Once they are on the loose, even Rush Limbaugh and other like-minded jingo creeps of the airwaves will despair. "

kunstler

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   13:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: All (#64)

See, here's the deal.

the fat ugly toad signed his name in blood a looong time ago.

That a poor black maid could even put the toad in jail is already a victory.

The point man for rape of the planet:

" Ilargi: So when everybody sells everything, where do we draw the line between a sovereign nation and one that is "occupied"? It's hard to say, granted, but I would think that a people that wants to be in charge of its own destiny would want to always retain control of its transport and energy infrastructure: roads, waterways and ports, energy sources and supplies, etc. Control over health care services and schools seems obvious too, if you want to be and feel independent. And we haven't even mentioned land yet.

The prevailing ideology, however, has become the privatization of everything that's not bolted down (and even then...) The underlying notion, of course, is that private business is more efficient than government in running all sorts of services. Whether that's true or not is up for debate, but there's another factor at play as well: private businesses are run for profit, and profit implies growth."

-Ilargi

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   13:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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